Q and A for Olympus labs TR3ST

[BrownBoi]

I run nolva+clomid. If you're going to fork out the cash for Nolva why not spend the extra few cents to supersize your PCT with clomid. i have run both solo in the past and was equally happy with the results. No sides with nolva or clomid. Both will get the family jewels plump in short order.

What dosage do you run them at? Sounds like trest can be pretty strong and hard to come back from.

 

[FracMaster]

I just ran trest at 150/ day for 6 weeks. Stacked with 600 of stano. Very little shutdown, a little bloat, but nothing crazy. I ran eliminate for the last two weeks into pct, and after 10 days of pct everything is up and running, libido is good. I'd run trest again, although the strength gains didn't kick in until about week 4. I put on 10 lbs, but 5 of that was water because it was gone in a day or two into pct. I leaned out real nice after the water dropped

 

[ericos_bob]

It's subjective. Trest will shut you down hard but if you've read the studies about use of trest as a male contraceptive you'll find that one of the advantages of trest over test was the swift recovery after cessation of the compound. It was however dosed for contraceptive efficacy not bodybuilding. As we can see with trest logs there are exceptions to the rule but from what I've found of trest cycles the majority of users report bouncing back fine in PCT.

As for dosages it just depends on the cycle and really everyone likes to do it their own way. No gold standard. I'll be running a 5 week PCT for a 6 week DT/halo cycle. Clomid 50/50/25/25/25 + Nolva 20/20/10/10/10
I'll also be running low dose exem last 2 weeks of PCT.

 

[BrownBoi]

Any thoughts on adding CEL p-mag? I have a bottle and heard promagnon is similar to halodrol and people are stacking trest w/halo

 

[Woody]

Any thoughts on adding CEL p-mag? I have a bottle and heard promagnon is similar to halodrol and people are stacking trest w/halo

Would make a nice bulking stack

 

[twistedfords]

Any thoughts on adding CEL p-mag? I have a bottle and heard promagnon is similar to halodrol and people are stacking trest w/halo

Well i do know p mag tends to hold more size and water then halo. So make sure you have a good AI when doing this stack. Trest does convert to estrogen.

On the other hand your joints will feel good and you will be moving a lot more weight. So lift heavy. Lift often. Get big and enjoy.

 

[ericos_bob]

mm yeah I agree it's similar to halo but the wet nature makes it less ideal when stacking with something like trest imo. For a short cycle it may be a better choice being a faster acting compound than halo but if going 6 weeks+ I'd stick to the halo+trest. Epistane is another that comes to mind though it seems epi is a hit and miss compound in terms of results going by logs.

 

[BrownBoi]

Week 2. Strength is up as well as weight. Libido has dropped. Any advice or recommendations on something to add to help that out on cycle?

 

[Synapsin]

Week 2. Strength is up as well as weight. Libido has dropped. Any advice or recommendations on something to add to help that out on cycle?

Kingsblood will definitely help you out for libido. I would try that out.

 

[BrownBoi]

Kingsblood will definitely help you out for libido. I would try that out.

Was thinking of that but they have it marketed as a PCT supplement. Don't want to screw up my current run. I'll have to read up on it. Maybe I can run it all the way trough PCT

 

[Synapsin]

Was thinking of that but they have it marketed as a PCT supplement. Don't want to screw up my current run. I'll have to read up on it. Maybe I can run it all the way trough PCT

It is a very versatile product that can be run whenever. It's best during PCT to try and keep your gains during PCT, but if you're having libido issues, it'll definitely fix them on cycle and it won't screw up your current run at all.

 

[BrownBoi]

Ordered! Thanks!

 

[Mikelopez]

If I run 50 mg tr3st preworkout and 25 mg dermatrest, should I run nolva on cycle and for pct nolva and clomid?

 

[Pride89]

Nolva and /or clomid as PCT
But an AI (aromatize inhibitor) on Cycle and not nolva

 

[Mikelopez]

Which one would you recommend

 

[paul56778]

Which one would you recommend

Use preferably Aromasin on cycle to control estrogen, i have never used it so cannot comment on dosages for this,

i also used 1 mg of Arimadex a day when i was using it to combat the sides from 100-150 mg of the oral version Tr3st but i was also running 250-500mg of Test E per week and 300mg Tren E.

for PCT Clomid is a better suited option in my opinion and others will agree that it works better than nolva, i used the 2 but most say just clomid at a dose of 50,50,25,25 should be enough or a longer run could be 50,50,25,25,12.5,12.5,

Nolvadex lowers IGF which is the major off-putting effect which is not the greatest thing on cycle or during PCT.

 

[Brandinooooo]

Use preferably Aromasin on cycle to control estrogen, i have never used it so cannot comment on dosages for this,

i also used 1 mg of Arimadex a day when i was using it to combat the sides from 100-150 mg of the oral version Tr3st but i was also running 250-500mg of Test E per week and 300mg Tren E.

for PCT Clomid is a better suited option in my opinion and others will agree that it works better than nolva, i used the 2 but most say just clomid at a dose of 50,50,25,25 should be enough or a longer run could be 50,50,25,25,12.5,12.5,

Nolvadex lowers IGF which is the major off-putting effect which is not the greatest thing on cycle or during PCT.

I used that. 12.5 eod and adjust from there.

 

[Mikelopez]

Yea I'm running 8 week cycle and meant to say 25 mg dermatrest twice daily so 100 mg a day with the tr3st. Clomid for 6 weeks? Also should I run AI trough pct as well

 

[Tank999]

For someone who can't go through 25 pages right now, anyone have a link or 2 to general suggestions on running oral/td tr3st? Ancillary suppz, etc...
I've read through a bunch of complete logs, and everyone seems to have different ideas........as usual.....

 

[Jebrook]

For someone who can't go through 25 pages right now, anyone have a link or 2 to general suggestions on running oral/td tr3st? Ancillary suppz, etc...
I've read through a bunch of complete logs, and everyone seems to have different ideas........as usual.....

Standard protocol for someone with a few cycles under their belt and a decent muscle foundation is 75-100 mg total Trestolone daily. Most guys have the best run by using 25 mg DT in the AM and PM and 50 mg oral Trest about 20 minutes pwo. Aromasin at 12.5-25 mg EOD is a pretty standard protocol as well to start with and adjust as fits you best.

EDIT: 50 mg daily is a standard "test" base dosage.

 

[paul56778]

Standard protocol for someone with a few cycles under their belt and a decent muscle foundation is 75-100 mg total Trestolone daily. Most guys have the best run by using 25 mg DT in the AM and PM and 50 mg oral Trest about 20 minutes pwo. Aromasin at 12.5-25 mg EOD is a pretty standard protocol as well to start with and adjust as fits you best.

EDIT: 50 mg daily is a standard "test" base dosage.

Based on dosages and half life being short with cap version which i have on hand, what is the max safe dosage of tr3st you would run, is it worth going up to 150mg+ per day split every 2 hours due to short half life.

Has anyone gone past 150mg and up to 175 or 200mg or is there a point of major diminishing returns when dosing that high with capsulated form.

 

[Pride89]

I think the bloat, estro and prolactin side would stop one from going that high

 

[Jebrook]

Based on dosages and half life being short with cap version which i have on hand, what is the max safe dosage of tr3st you would run, is it worth going up to 150mg+ per day split every 2 hours due to short half life.

Has anyone gone past 150mg and up to 175 or 200mg or is there a point of major diminishing returns when dosing that high with capsulated form.

I honestly can't tell you what is "safe" for you. It would be a somewhat high risk IMO. 150 mg of oral Trest split evenly throughout the day would certainly provide some impressive mass gains and good feels, but it also greatly raises the risk of methylestrogen sides, lipid level damage, extreme suppression, etc. I've seen a couple mentions of people taking up to 200 mg daily but they weren't detailed and it was a combo of oral and Transdermal. You might be able to manage this dose with proactive use of an AI. I would not run it for longer than 6-8 weeks.

 

[Tank999]

Jebrook
As quoted from you above:
"50 mg daily is a standard "test" base dosage."
Would you still recommend dosing 12.5 aromasin eod, for such a low dosage?

 

[Jebrook]

Jebrook
As quoted from you above:
"50 mg daily is a standard "test" base dosage."
Would you still recommend dosing 12.5 aromasin eod, for such a low dosage?

No, I wouldn't start out with AI usage, but only as/if needed. Certainly keep a pharma grade AI onhand beforehand.

 

[paul56778]

No, I wouldn't start out with AI usage, but only as/if needed. Certainly keep a pharma grade AI onhand beforehand.

How is it on the liver at high doses even though it is not methylated.

 

[Jebrook]

How is it on the liver at high doses even though it is not methylated.

Correct, it is not 17aa methylated. It is 7-alpha methylated, thus the likelihood of liver toxicity is much lower. Like Trenavar, it is still possible to see some liver enzyme elevations but not near the level of 17-aa methyls. Honestly, you should be mostly concerned about maintaining healthy lipids and controlling the methyl-Estrogen.

 

[mcgeier]

Have been running your Tr3st product for 6 weeks at 4 caps per day and havent felt any difference?! Its a clear bottle with red/white capsules bought from an UK retailer who likes to powerhimself. Is it fake? Have heard of another member in another thread that he also has problems with some products of the retailer in question.

 

[paul56778]

Have been running your Tr3st product for 6 weeks at 4 caps per day and havent felt any difference?! Its a clear bottle with red/white capsules bought from an UK retailer who likes to powerhimself. Is it fake? Have heard of another member in another thread that he also has problems with some products of the retailer in question.

Mine are older and white caps, not red and white.

You know if they are real at 4 caps , 100mg you should have had noticeable increases in size and strength, e.g. i am in a deficit of around 1000-1500 calories, below my maintenance level and am still getting much stronger.

 

[mcgeier]

Mine are older and white caps, not red and white.

You know if they are real at 4 caps , 100mg you should have had noticeable increases in size and strength, e.g. i am in a deficit of around 1000-1500 calories, below my maintenance level and am still getting much stronger.

Yeah I know but Im feeling nothing....really bad. I have bought 10 bottles of those and now they are bunk. Shame on you Olympus :-(

 

[Jebrook]

Yeah I know but Im feeling nothing....really bad. I have bought 10 bottles of those and now they are bunk. Shame on you Olympus :-(

I've done both the old and new batches with great results. I'm unsure of why you're having an issue but we would like to help. PM sent.

 

[paul56778]

I've done both the old and new batches with great results. I'm unsure of why you're having an issue but we would like to help. PM sent.

I am confused to PMS and Predator are both reputable stores so should not have had issue with product, Tr3st is a potent product for me.

 

[ericos_bob]

It's strange but it's not the first time I've read of someone running a trest cycle and noticing nothing. Is it possible to be a non responder such as is the case for some anabolics.

 

[abformulations]

People not noticing anything from Tr3st probably has bad dieting and training. Impossible not to see a difference

 

[deepseajs]

People not noticing anything from Tr3st probably has bad dieting and training. Impossible not to see a difference

Agree. Felt like a god on trest. Stuff is amazing.
On a side note, looked everywhere and it seems trest is no longer sold in the US but I can’t find any documentation that it’s banned? What’s up? Been off the forums for a while

 

[Tank999]

Agree. Felt like a god on trest. Stuff is amazing.
On a side note, looked everywhere and it seems trest is no longer sold in the US but I can’t find any documentation that it’s banned? What’s up? Been off the forums for a while

Should be some available on the auction forum.....usually

 

[abformulations]

Agree. Felt like a god on trest. Stuff is amazing.
On a side note, looked everywhere and it seems trest is no longer sold in the US but I can’t find any documentation that it’s banned? What’s up? Been off the forums for a while

Hard to find but it’s out there. Google blood drops as well

 

[Cogy]

When dosing 50mg a day with caps...

What do you guys prefer: all at once before workout or splitt?

 

[abformulations]

Caps I like 50mg all pre workout.

 

[Cogy]

Caps I like 50mg all pre workout.

Nice thanks,
And when does it kick in?

 

[abformulations]

Nice thanks,
And when does it kick in?

Pretty quick. I would take it 20-30 min pre workout

 

[mcgeier]

Quick question are you using pure Trest or Trest acetate in your product?