Q and A for Olympus labs EP1C

Olympus Labs said:
not a burn just facts. I just want people to understand the value they are getting.
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I understand completely. Hell, I bought a bottle... was just attempting to break any building tension with corny humor. lol
 
htghunterray said:
I understand completely. Hell, I bought a bottle... was just attempting to break any building tension with corny humor. lol
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nah, no tension. It's hard to read and understand labels completely. 1 pill = this 2 pills = that , etc. trust me it can be misleading
 
Olympus Labs said:
Theres 18g of epicatechin in there. There's 4.5g in massterone @ 27.87 . 18 / 4.5 = 4. 27.87 * 4 = 111.48

If you bought 5 bottles of ep1c you get 30% off. That's 34.99 each..
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Yea but its not as simple as this, I wont go into why though as this is a OL thread. Anyway, congratulations on your product. Any idea what the price will be after the presale?
 
How do you think this would stack with your Ostarine? Also, is there any reason to believe that this would need to be cycled; any research that indicates any down-regulation of processes with continual use?

Thanks,

Crowbar
 
crowbar46 said:
How do you think this would stack with your Ostarine? Also, is there any reason to believe that this would need to be cycled; any research that indicates any down-regulation of processes with continual use?Thanks,Crowbar
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It should be a great stack for sure... Haven't seen such studies but generally it's a good idea to cycle almost all supplements with the exception of protein powders, amino acids etc.
 
I just want to be clear, we can take this on its own, off cycle without a cycle/liver support & no serm needed?

Btw finished my epi cutting stack and gained great size with barely any strength loss that I gained from it since being off
 
Dvill23 said:
I just want to be clear, we can take this on its own, off cycle without a cycle/liver support & no serm needed?Btw finished my epi cutting stack and gained great size with barely any strength loss that I gained from it since being off
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Yes. EP1C is not suppressive. Cycle support and PCT are not needed.
 
Quick question:

In the myostatin/follistatin study with Epicatechin the researchers stated:

"Human subjects were treated for 7 days with 25 mg of pure Epi (Sigma-Aldrich) provided in capsules bid (~1 mg/kg/day)".

but the study also said, "An initial, pilot study was also performed in human subjects (n=6, average age of 41±5 years and weight of 77.4±7.7 kg).


So were they given 25 mg per day of Epicatechin or were they given around 70-80 mg per day to match the actual kg of the human patients, because it writes "25 mg of pure Epi (~1 mg/kg/day)" which doesn't seem right.
 
horizons said:
I want to buy a few bottles to try out. But I am still sceptical on the whole follidrone hype
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Even with all the reviews and other companies using be same ingredient??

There has been one negative outcome I've seen. Everyone else has had positive outcomes.
 
kbayne said:
Even with all the reviews and other companies using be same ingredient??

There has been one negative outcome I've seen. Everyone else has had positive outcomes.
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Hey, I'm skeptical as well! :P

Still going to give the stuff a run though in a few short months. Only fair :D
 
I'd recommend people start out with 1 cap and then move on to 2 caps. 600mg is a lot
 
Yeah this stuff is SEXY!
 
Olympus Labs said:
I'd recommend people start out with 1 cap and then move on to 2 caps. 600mg is a lot
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I would certainly agree with that... plus Loggers that have been bumping up the dosage of the competitors product have stated that the same results were achieved. So, basically, why make a bottle last one month when you can make it last two?
 
htghunterray said:
I would certainly agree with that... plus Loggers that have been bumping up the dosage of the competitors product have stated that the same results were achieved. So, basically, why make a bottle last one month when you can make it last two?
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Yep. I ran it at 2 caps which I believe was equivalent to about 400mg total. That was enough. I went up an extra cap and didn't feel any difference.
 
htghunterray said:
I would certainly agree with that... plus Loggers that have been bumping up the dosage of the competitors product have stated that the same results were achieved. So, basically, why make a bottle last one month when you can make it last two?
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I like the way you think. Ep1c is going to be epic;)
 
Any idea what the Half-Life of this is? Is it a water or fat soluble substance (I'm assuming water soluble).

Thanks,

Crowbar
 
Any idea if why this would affect teen supplement users in a negative way?
 
I believe your product will work well as is. But curious if we've yet found anything that may increase absorption with this.
 
crowbar46 said:
Any idea what the Half-Life of this is? Is it a water or fat soluble substance (I'm assuming water soluble).


Thanks,


Crowbar
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It's water soluble.

megadeth said:
Any idea if why this would affect teen supplement users in a negative way?
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Haven't seen any studies saying that it'd be harmful but if you are a teen, I don't think you'll need anything else than food and maybe a good protein powder.

keepingtheblade said:
I believe your product will work well as is. But curious if we've yet found anything that may increase absorption with this.
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We already know that it absorbs well enough without any kind of absorption enhancers. Those would be pointless any way - we could get same results by simply increasing the amount of active ingredient (-)-epicatechin.
 
According to the research dosage and Brundels reply, I think it is 200mg epi per SERVING not per cap in Follidrone.
 
In for the logs. I wana see how this **** does.
 
From every study I can find, twice/day dosing was used. This has to be for a reason; probably due to it's fast MCR (metabolic clearance rate). So, it looks like I'll have to split the caps, as 600mg./day from 2 caps would probably be overkill. No reason to waste money.

Crowbar
 
crowbar46 said:
From every study I can find, twice/day dosing was used. This has to be for a reason; probably due to it's fast MCR (metabolic clearance rate). So, it looks like I'll have to split the caps, as 600mg./day from 2 caps would probably be overkill. No reason to waste money.Crowbar
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MCR (and half-life) of (-)-epicatechin is faster than MCR and half-life of EGCG and EGC but dosing it once per day should be enough - timing is what matters. Many guys will still take two capsules per day.
 
Somewhere, someone (can't remember exactly been reading too many posts) claimed that taking it with EGCG would improve absorption: is there any supporting evidence for this?

Thanks,

Crowbar
 
I know ECGC can extend the life of beta-agonists but not aware of that being the case with this particular compound but would not say it does not either. Maybe one of the other reps knows.
 
MrKleen73 said:
I know ECGC can extend the life of beta-agonists but not aware of that being the case with this particular compound but would not say it does not either. Maybe one of the other reps knows.
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It was proposed to enhance absorption, many methods for this are still in testing but soon we should know.

I recall Cooper saying there was merit to bioperine being a good addition (in regards to Massterone)

So either that or ECGC is dirt cheap might as well add it
 
Driven2lift said:
It was proposed to enhance absorption, many methods for this are still in testing but soon we should know.I recall Cooper saying there was merit to bioperine being a good addition (in regards to Massterone)So either that or ECGC is dirt cheap might as well add it
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EGCG has many health benefits as well.
 
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study on ECGC/absorption

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Other study to read over why some are dosing with vitimin c
 
Driven2lift said:
It was proposed to enhance absorption, many methods for this are still in testing but soon we should know.

I recall Cooper saying there was merit to bioperine being a good addition (in regards to Massterone)

So either that or ECGC is dirt cheap might as well add it
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there is always merit on adding bioperine in but its hard to say exactly how much.
 
Olympus Labs said:
there is always merit on adding bioperine in but its hard to say exactly how much.
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The joys of a compound in its infancy on the market. I see all kinds of variations coming soon.

I like sticking to the ingredient solo though for now, then if science backs an addition I can add it in myself.

Will be grabbing some Ep1c on my next order as I loved Folli and I know I can trust Olympus :)

Anxious for it to land at Orbit
 
I have a question for the reps. If this is 93% pure and dosed at 300mg -(-) Epicatechin[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif], does that mean that there is 300mg of the 93% (for 279mg of the active compound), or there is 322.5mg of the 93% to equal 300mg of pure -(-) epicatechin?[/FONT]
 
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