Like the title says, looking to control prolactin. Stress is at an all time high. Need to control prolactin... I have something for cortisol.
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Check out the reply from MrCooper on the subject...Inhibit P all the wayLike the title says, looking to control prolactin. Stress is at an all time high. Need to control prolactin... I have something for cortisol.
Cheers!
Check out the reply from MrCooper on the subject...Inhibit P all the way
Inhibit-P or Mucuna Pruriens extract L-Dopa 98%Like the title says, looking to control prolactin. Stress is at an all time high. Need to control prolactin... I have something for cortisol.
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$25 v. $45I've used both personally and never saw a difference in effects so for me, its a no-brainer since inhibit-p is waaayyyyyy cheaper
Smart choice brother. You won't be disappointed!Started SNS on Tuesday. 2 caps per day.
And is trouble sleeping one of them because I cannot fall asleep and took my evening pill at 8:30pm. ?How long before I notice the effects?
Nope.Do you have fluid coming out of your nipples, or a blood test showing high prolactin?
How do you know your prolactin is high then?Nope.
So you had it measured via a blood test, 1 year ago?It was high about a year ago. I did a run of inhibit-p. I chose to take it for the l-dopa effects.
Hey old man, leave it alone. We get your point, okay? You clearly have nothing else better to do this morning. Life's short, especially when you're old. I took a productive i have taken before for the mood and well-being effects I had on it and I'm taking it again.So you had it measured via a blood test, 1 year ago?
Hahaha! Wow, I feel so put in my place. You clearly have zero knowledge about any of this stuff - enjoy your placebo and ever shrinking wallet.Hey old man, leave it alone. We get your point, okay? You clearly have nothing else better to do this morning. Life's short, especially when you're old. I took a productive i have taken before for the mood and well-being effects I had on it and I'm taking it again.
Give it a rest. Go take a nap.
Thank you.Hahaha! Wow, I feel so put in my place. You clearly have zero knowledge about any of this stuff - enjoy your placebo and ever shrinking wallet.
If you don't know where you are, what happens if you take a "Prolactin Lowering Supplement" and it puts you below 5ng/ml?The reason that low prolactin can so negatively affect your sex life was shown in a 2009 study in the Journal of Sexual Medicine that divided over 2,500 men with sexual dysfunction into quartiles and found that the low prolactin men were:
74% more likely to have Metabolic Syndrome
43% more likely to erectile dysfunction resulting from arterial disease and plaque
38% more likely to have premature ejaculation
The lowest quartile consisted of prolactin levels below 5 ng/ml. For this reason, if you having any kind of erectile dysfunction or loss of libido and, if you also have low prolactin levels, this may provide you a clue as to how to troubleshoot the underlying issue.
Hey, thank you for this. I thought about it before you sent this and said, "This guy prolly gets annoyed with people buying sh&t and not doing proper research." And that's legit; I get the same way when my buddy spends a bunch of cash on music gear he doesn't need or know anything about. I was coming from the standpoint that if I want to part with $20 on something that I felt/placebo made a difference, I should be allowed to do that and not be judged.Since I always like to educate, consider that 20ng/ml is considered the top of normal range for prl in men. Only about one half of 1 percent (in a study on 1,821 men) have prl above 20ng/ml. In another study, levels below 5ng/ml were shown to:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19210705
If you don't know where you are, what happens if you take a "Prolactin Lowering Supplement" and it puts you below 5ng/ml?
If you are trying to influence something that has a "healthy range", where above or below is BAD, I think it would behoove people to know what their number is.
For other stuff that doesn't matter, go ahead and recommend/take stuff til the cows come home - there's no LD50 for Ashwaghanda or Maca, etc... - but stuff that influences hormones? Irresponsible to recommend or take without knowing IMO.
I see the emoji!The_Old_Guy a loan wolf in the bodybuilding world on a crusade to educate the masses of the evils of supplements one post at a time![]()
Back at ya - I apologize as well.Hey, thank you for this.
But then you have studies like this which tell us that lowering PRL acutely increases sexual function:Back at ya - I apologize as well.
yup, it always works for me....inhibit-P and E are both effective and cheap compared to others products in their category's!!!But then you have studies like this which tell us that lowering PRL acutely increases sexual function:
http://m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/179/3/357.short
So while it may not be a common cause of sexual issues, decreasing it significantly enhances sexual function regardless.
Hence why SNS sells quality products and cost effective prices!yup, it always works for me....inhibit-P and E are both effective and cheap compared to others products in their category's!!!
Ha! Agreed, but I wasn't being ageist at all. Rather, I was going off his name. 49, is not old in my book. 65+ and you're on your way. But judging by Old_man's pic, he could probably tell me to drink my own urine to look that good and I'd try that.LOL at the wave of recommendations. Note that none asked the difficult but truthful question posed by oldguy.
OP, of course its your money and body but no need to get ageist just because someone's trying to educate you. Good on you for apologising
Yeeeah, but he posted from the side of commin issues, but didn't note that decreased PRL even in normal populations still increased sexual issues as well.LOL at the wave of recommendations. Note that none asked the difficult but truthful question posed by oldguy.
OP, of course its your money and body but no need to get ageist just because someone's trying to educate you. Good on you for apologising
Not sure i fully get your drift. However all he mentioned was stress was at an all time high. No further info on this and in comes a wave of company recommendations. Not one post suggesting tackling the root cause of verifging how he knows his prolactin is high. I know this is a supp thread but cmon!Yeeeah, but he posted from the side of commin issues, but didn't note that decreased PRL even in normal populations still increased sexual issues as well.
it has the data to support it from the side of that as well.
But yet you seems to have misunderstood/ misinterpreted what the study was testing for, because you indicate that low prolactin is responsible for increasing the rates of many lifestyle diseases (as indicated by your first post ITT); yet the authors state that low PRL is likely resultant from blunted central serotonin transmission, which is also investigated here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10459408 and here: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0024320578905738If you look at the conflicting studies posted, my two totaled about 4,500 Men.... the other one was 10(?) Gun to my head, I know which side I would choose based of the N= numbers alone.
And, so... are we promoting/advocating that we should strive for 0ng/ml?
And further:The association between BCSF and MetS is not surprising, as central serotonin is involved in the control of many behaviors (eating, locomotion, sleep) and autonomic functions (thermogenesis, cardiovascular control, insulin secretion) possibly related to the development of the syndrome
[24,25]. However, at present, it is not clear whether the impairment of central serotonergic pathways should be considered as a possible cause
of MetS or of another abnormality induced by MetS itself or by insulin resistance.
In animal models, diabetes per se can disturb central serotonin synthesis and decrease serotonin receptor affinity [30]. Furthermore, pituitary gland, and in particular lactotroph cells, undergo increased apoptosis in poorly controlled diabetes mellitus [31].
And again:Our findings are consistent with the hypothesis of a hyperglycemia-induced reduction of PRL secretion.
So in actual fact, the data you posted supports the idea that disturbed serotonin transmission underpins a lot of the issues you relate to PRL, when in actual fact salivary PRL is a marker tool used to identify serotonin transmission.Our data do not support the hypothesis of a metabolic derangement induced by low PRL
Then of course we can go back and see that impaired serotonin transmission can be attributed to that a lot of pathologies:The present data show, quite unexpectedly, that low, rather than high, PRL levels are associated with arteriogenic ED. In fact, the detrimental effect of hyperprolactinemia on male sexual behavior is mainly mediated by a
decreased sexual drive and by the concomitant hypogonadism [5]. Mechanisms through which PRL controls penile vascular reactivity are beyond the aims of the present study. However, we can speculate that the association of MetS and arterio-genic ED with low PRL reflects the impairment of central serotoninergic transmission.
**** I remember the first time I took caber. Accidentally took it during the day and passed out lolI see the emoji!
Hell, Carbergoline has so many negative side effects, I sure as shjt would try an OTC first too - if I *knew* I was high![]()
So you recommend striving for 0ng/ml?But yet you....
Nice diversionSo you recommend striving for 0ng/ml?
Im on a tablet - all you get for now, lol. Nice non-answer.Nice diversion
and you can find it under $20 at many sites
and you can find it under $20 at many sites
if I am ordering mainly sns/cel products I've found that nutraplanet prices are usually the lowest!!!and you can find it under $20 at many sites