Pro IGF-1 log Hi Tech Pharm

VaughnTrue said:
from the one salesman I have heard who has been on this almost a month, he said he was extremely impressed at the weight loss he experienced and he wasn't expecting to see that from the product when he started.
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That is what I figured, makes complete sense!
 
In for potential gainzzz
 
I am in, Joe. Thanks for efford and sharing the experience! Can I ask, how old are you? I am wondering, what changes the item will brink to 39 years old guy....
Looking forward to hear some cool stuff :)
 
aleksandera said:
I am in, Joe. Thanks for efford and sharing the experience! Can I ask, how old are you? I am wondering, what changes the item will brink to 39 years old guy....
Looking forward to hear some cool stuff :)
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Sure dude, I'm 41 & Almost 200lbs.
 
my biggest fear here is timing blood tests correctly. I want this stuff to work extremely badly not only for HTP's sake, but for my own personal use. IGF-1 has an extremely short half life, so if a blood test comes back saying "nope no increase" does that prove the product doesn't work, or does it mean the timing wasn't perfect to show the boost from 20-40mcg dosing?

so many variables here, so hard to know what the truth is either way unless we get a blood test showing crazy high numbers/increases
 
Where is this being sold. I'm a practicing sceptic. I'll try most things once. Will tarry a while through to see how these logs pan out. $100 is a major outlay!
 
VaughnTrue said:
my biggest fear here is timing blood tests correctly. I want this stuff to work extremely badly not only for HTP's sake, but for my own personal use. IGF-1 has an extremely short half life, so if a blood test comes back saying "nope no increase" does that prove the product doesn't work, or does it mean the timing wasn't perfect to show the boost from 20-40mcg dosing?

so many variables here, so hard to know what the truth is either way unless we get a blood test showing crazy high numbers/increases
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Are you suggesting that blood tests can only be indicate whether the product works well, and any other result would be inconclusive? Thats unfortunate if true. I am curious what kind of results people are getting
 
ucheoma said:
Where is this being sold. I'm a practicing sceptic. I'll try most things once. Will tarry a while through to see how these logs pan out. $100 is a major outlay!
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HiTechs site..A1 Supps I think..google is your friend
 
VaughnTrue said:
my biggest fear here is timing blood tests correctly. I want this stuff to work extremely badly not only for HTP's sake, but for my own personal use. IGF-1 has an extremely short half life, so if a blood test comes back saying "nope no increase" does that prove the product doesn't work, or does it mean the timing wasn't perfect to show the boost from 20-40mcg dosing?

so many variables here, so hard to know what the truth is either way unless we get a blood test showing crazy high numbers/increases
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Curious, if the shelf life of IGF-1 is significantly short, is that momentary duration all the body needs to spark growth? I'm assuming the answer is yes.
 
I'm supraised that HTP did not run some blood tests , clearly they can afford it and finding a couple of a trusted test subjects should not be a problem either.
 
malin said:
I'm supraised that HTP did not run some blood tests , clearly they can afford it and finding a couple of a trusted test subjects should not be a problem either.
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But theyd have everything to lose doing a low-budget bro study even if the compound works 100% as claimed.

And by low budget I mean anything less rigorous and expensive than a properly conducted double blind study.

99% of the target market couldnt care less for studies, and the population who does wouldnt be impressed by low budget bro studies anyway (theyd dismiss it a priori).
 
Update - after throwing out my back on Saturday, I finally recovevered. I made it to the gym yesterday. So far I can't say I've noticed any change, everything is about the same even with 4-day off in a row. Which is crazy for me.
 
Joe12 said:
Update - after throwing out my back on Saturday, I finally recovevered. I made it to the gym yesterday. So far I can't say I've noticed any change, everything is about the same even with 4-day off in a row. Which is crazy for me.
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You don't lose strength after just 4 days off! Let's keep the reviews in perspective
 
Joe12 said:
Update - after throwing out my back on Saturday, I finally recovevered. I made it to the gym yesterday. So far I can't say I've noticed any change, everything is about the same even with 4-day off in a row. Which is crazy for me.
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Glad to see you are back to the gym and kept your strength.
 
ucheoma said:
Where is this being sold. I'm a practicing sceptic. I'll try most things once. Will tarry a while through to see how these logs pan out. $100 is a major outlay!
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few retailers right now...although I'm not sure of any board sponsors who have it so I can't directly name them here.

primolift00 said:
Are you suggesting that blood tests can only be indicate whether the product works well, and any other result would be inconclusive? Thats unfortunate if true. I am curious what kind of results people are getting
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I never said that...I stated that I wanted the blood tests to show insane increases so everyone on this board can be happy with the results.

Ultimately, real world results are the true test.

Joe12 said:
Curious, if the shelf life of IGF-1 is significantly short, is that momentary duration all the body needs to spark growth? I'm assuming the answer is yes.
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It seems to be enough for the guys injecting it. So if the delivery system/dosing works as claimed, thats a resounding yes.
 
ucheoma said:
You don't lose strength after just 4 days off! Let's keep the reviews in perspective
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Don't read into something I didn't wright, lets keep your reading comprehension in perspective. I am heading into almost my second week, it was an overall update.
 
Joe12 said:
Don't read into something I didn't wright, lets keep your reading comprehension in perspective. I am heading into almost my second week, it was an overall update.
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was reading into what you wrote. You are saying you've never recovered as quickly from time out of the gym ? What then was the significance of highlighting non loss of strength this time around?
 
ucheoma said:
was reading into what you wrote. You are saying you've never recovered as quickly from time out of the gym ? What then was the significance of highlighting non loss of strength this time around?
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I was just trying to say nothing has changed, that's all. But For real, Im not exapectimg to see anything until the 3rd week or so. Just trying to let people know what to exspect.
 
Joe12 said:
I was just trying to say nothing has changed, that's all. But For real, Im not exapectimg to see anything until the 3rd week or so. Just trying to let people know what to exspect.
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That's honest freedback, nothing wrong with that and nothing at all to defend. Tell us what your feeling (or not feeling) and what your noticing and not noticing. I would have to think 2 solid weeks (of daily dosing) and then effects should start to take place. Like you said, I would have to think week 3 or week 4 is where you should start to really notice something positive.


Keep us posted and great log so far!






-Spaz
 
Update!!!

Ok boys, this is my first update where I can say this stuff is kicking in. After yesterday's WO, the muscle fullness never left. I literly still have it as I type this. I'm hoping this continues to increase over the next couple weeks.

Also, I normally have a little front shoulder/joint soreness after I bench, but haven't noticed it today. Not 100% sure if that's the IGF since I didn't go super heavy, but I'll take note of it and see if it's consistent over the next several weeks.
 
Joe12 said:
Update!!!

Ok boys, this is my first update where I can say this stuff is kicking in. After yesterday's WO, the muscle fullness never left. I literly still have it as I type this. I'm hoping this continues to increase over the next couple weeks.

Also, I normally have a little front shoulder/joint soreness after I bench, but haven't noticed it today. Not 100% sure if that's the IGF since I didn't go super heavy, but I'll take note of it and see if it's consistent over the next several weeks.
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THUMBS UP!
 
One more thing to add. I figured this stuff would not kick in until the 2-3 weeks.... but fullness was noticeable on day 11&12. Super cool, bc that is faster then any PH or SARM I have touched.
 
Joe12 said:
Update!!!

Ok boys, this is my first update where I can say this stuff is kicking in. After yesterday's WO, the muscle fullness never left. I literly still have it as I type this. I'm hoping this continues to increase over the next couple weeks.

Also, I normally have a little front shoulder/joint soreness after I bench, but haven't noticed it today. Not 100% sure if that's the IGF since I didn't go super heavy, but I'll take note of it and see if it's consistent over the next several weeks.
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seems like the 2 in depth logs i've seen have touched on the pumps/fullness big time on this. very excited to see how it progresses
 
VaughnTrue said:
seems like the 2 in depth logs i've seen have touched on the pumps/fullness big time on this. very excited to see how it progresses
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I am as well. Like Vaughn said, various users are reporting this so there has to be something too it. I'll be finding out myself very soon! :)





-Spaz
 
Joe12 said:
Update!!!

Ok boys, this is my first update where I can say this stuff is kicking in. After yesterday's WO, the muscle fullness never left. I literly still have it as I type this. I'm hoping this continues to increase over the next couple weeks.

Also, I normally have a little front shoulder/joint soreness after I bench, but haven't noticed it today. Not 100% sure if that's the IGF since I didn't go super heavy, but I'll take note of it and see if it's consistent over the next several weeks.
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Good to hear! I was starting to worry about this one..
 
VaughnTrue said:
seems like the 2 in depth logs i've seen have touched on the pumps/fullness big time on this. very excited to see how it progresses
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I can def confirm the fullness. I haven't had any abnormal pump at this point.

Big_Spaz said:
I am as well. Like Vaughn said, various users are reporting this so there has to be something too it. I'll be finding out myself very soon! :)
-Spaz
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Nice, you should run a log.

Ricky10 said:
Good to hear! I was starting to worry about this one..
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I figured it would take 2-3 weeks. Glad it started to kick in earlier!
 
Update - that fullness is remaining longer between WO. Also, noticed I was able to push out a couple more reps. Also noticed my veins were popping today, which is not very normal for me at 190. I normally need to be in the 180-185 range to see that. I should also add, I stopped bulking last week after hitting my target. Now I want to maintain around 190 to high 180s, at a low bf%.
 
One last thing, as I mentioned before, I've run a lot of cycles so I know the difference between placebo and gains. The fullness that I'm experiencing is definitely being contributed to IGF. This is the exact same fullness I experience when I ran LGD. However keep in mind, I'm specifically speaking about the fullness. LGD went well beyond just fullness. Hoping IGF does as well!!!!
 
I'm getting a wee bit excited now
 
Joe12 said:
One last thing, as I mentioned before, I've run a lot of cycles so I know the difference between placebo and gains. The fullness that I'm experiencing is definitely being contributed to IGF. This is the exact same fullness I experience when I ran LGD. However keep in mind, I'm specifically speaking about the fullness. LGD went well beyond just fullness. Hoping IGF does as well!!!!
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How many caps are you taking per day.
 
Things are heating up! Thanks for the updates
 
It just occurred to me that IGF is part of the negative feedback loop for GH release. Wouldn't exogenous IGF1 from this supplement decrease endogenous GH production?
 
Most of your GH release happens while you're sleeping. That's the reason quality sleep is very important for growth. Right after workout only small squirts (if I may use the word Squirt) of GH gets released. So, IGF-1 intake is not going to affect your GH release. Am I wrong?
 
jtmass said:
Most of your GH release happens while you're sleeping. That's the reason quality sleep is very important for growth. Right after workout only small squirts (if I may use the word Squirt) of GH gets released. So, IGF-1 intake is not going to affect your GH release. Am I wrong?
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That all makes sense. If you google "GH feedback loop" and go to images you'll see what I mean though.

I'm wondering if it has an effect on GH synonymous to suppression of testosterone from anabolics.
 
Killcure666 said:
That all makes sense. If you google "GH feedback loop" and go to images you'll see what I mean though.

I'm wondering if it has an effect on GH synonymous to suppression of testosterone from anabolics.
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No it won't, exogenous/synthetic GH or a constant bleed suppresses natural GH release but IGF1 should not effect it. While IGF is triggered to be made by GH in the liver, it's not it's only action. Basically your body doesn't go "oh there's too much IGF, better stop releasing GH" GHRHs and somatostatin control HGH.
 
Excellent update, please keep them coming!


I started my run this past Tuesday. I am not running a "log" persay, but I will keep you guys posted on my results (and thoughts) as my cycle goes along. I'm running the exact same training protocol as before, diet is pretty much the exact same as well. Only difference ... Pro IGF-1 at 10 caps per day. 5 Pre-Workout at 4:30 AM and 5 Pre-Bed at around 8:30 PM.

Only thing I've noticed so far ... sleep quality has been excellent. Literally knocked out right away and waking up feeling very refreshed. And that was after getting 5 hours, 11 hours and 6 hours of sleep. My sleep really varies depending on when I fall asleep on the recliner and what football game happens to be on TV :)






-Spaz
 
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