Pro IGF-1 log Hi Tech Pharm

Been on 100mcg lately and I really cant say its working or not. I dont expect any size or strength gains after just 4 weeks but as I know,100mcg IGF1 should affect bloodsugar (hypo sympthoms) etc.

I felt lethargy 2-3 days in the beginning. But it can be many reasons for that.
Will take bloodwork tomorrow :)
 
Danes said:
Been on 100mcg lately and I really cant say its working or not. I dont expect any size or strength gains after just 4 weeks but as I know,100mcg IGF1 should affect bloodsugar (hypo sympthoms) etc.

I felt lethargy 2-3 days in the beginning. But it can be many reasons for that.
Will take bloodwork tomorrow :)
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If you are extra ambitious and curious just get one of those glucometers at Cvs/Walgreens. I got one a while back they aren’t that expensive. Usually come with a few test strips too.
 
bigdavid said:
If you are extra ambitious and curious just get one of those glucometers at Cvs/Walgreens. I got one a while back they aren’t that expensive. Usually come with a few test strips too.
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I will say it to my doc :)
My IGFBP-3 will also be checked
 
Danes said:
Been on 100mcg lately and I really cant say its working or not. I dont expect any size or strength gains after just 4 weeks but as I know,100mcg IGF1 should affect bloodsugar (hypo sympthoms) etc.

I felt lethargy 2-3 days in the beginning. But it can be many reasons for that.
Will take bloodwork tomorrow :)
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Would you buy this product again?
 
Danes said:
I cant say anything yet.doc called me yestersay and said we are going to take bloodwork on monday. IGF-1 and IGFBP-3 will be checked
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Thank you for the reply. Looking forward to the blood work results and your final verdict on whether you would buy again
 
primolift00 said:
Thank you for the reply. Looking forward to the blood work results and your final verdict on whether you would buy again
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Been on 100mcg lately (25 tabs) so it should elevate my IGF-1 since VaughnTrue posted bloodwork (a guy,after 2 weeks on Pro IGF1 and been on 20mcg had elevated IGF-1 levels pretty much).
 
Firreozkan said:
Yes, :) I mean, why did his go up by 300%?
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1. His levels was very low before the supplementation with Pro IGF1.
2. Another guy posted blood results and his levels actually decreased.
3. I am running 5x the recommended dose. If my bloodwork show no high IGF1levels then I am the second one proving this supplement does not increase IGF-1.

I will not say anything negative until I get lab results :)
 
Danes said:
1. His levels was very low before the supplementation with Pro IGF1.
2. Another guy posted blood results and his levels actually decreased.
3. I am running 5x the recommended dose. If my bloodwork show no high IGF1levels then I am the second one proving this supplement does not increase IGF-1.

I will not say anything negative until I get lab results :)
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Nice man! Thanks for doing this. Have you tried Somatozine? If so, what do you think? And how much should I dose it at?
 
Danes said:
1. His levels was very low before the supplementation with Pro IGF1.
2. Another guy posted blood results and his levels actually decreased.
3. I am running 5x the recommended dose. If my bloodwork show no high IGF1levels then I am the second one proving this supplement does not increase IGF-1.

I will not say anything negative until I get lab results :)
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In for the final results
 
Lots of bated breath waiting for Danes blood work
 
VaughnTrue said:
my angus is peppered. hoping the results are legit!
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Sadly, my doc is retarded. He called me 4 hours ago and said :
"Testosterone,LH,FSH,TSH, IGF-1 and IGFBP-3 is noted and you need to come to medical station tomorrow and they will give you any date you want for bloodwork."

He promised whole last week. I gonna punish this guy haha
 
Danes said:
Sadly, my doc is retarded. He called me 4 hours ago and said :
"Testosterone,LH,FSH,TSH, IGF-1 and IGFBP-3 is noted and you need to come to medical station tomorrow and they will give you any date you want for bloodwork."

He promised whole last week. I gonna punish this guy haha
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Now that’s frustrating.
 
VaughnTrue said:
my angus is peppered. hoping the results are legit!
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If this stuff works 100% , should we be worried about something a very knowledgeable chemist said? :

"IGF-1 makes everything grow. If concentrations are highest in the esophagus, stomach, and intestines, then those organs are going to experience the most "growth." This could be very unhealthy -- high levels of esophagal IGF-1, for instance, are associated with Barret's Esophagus. What happens when very high levels of IGF-1 come into direct contact with the esophagus, on a daily basis?"
 
Danes said:
If this stuff works 100% , should we be worried about something a very knowledgeable chemist said? :

"IGF-1 makes everything grow. If concentrations are highest in the esophagus, stomach, and intestines, then those organs are going to experience the most "growth." This could be very unhealthy -- high levels of esophagal IGF-1, for instance, are associated with Barret's Esophagus. What happens when very high levels of IGF-1 come into direct contact with the esophagus, on a daily basis?"
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If you had direct contact between the IGF-1 and the esophagus, sure. However if this stuff works as claimed, you wouldn't have that contact as the IGF-1 doesn't get released until it hits the blood stream where it will then interact mainly with skeletal muscle (and of course various organs, just like standard injectable IGF-1)
 
VaughnTrue said:
If you had direct contact between the IGF-1 and the esophagus, sure. However if this stuff works as claimed, you wouldn't have that contact as the IGF-1 doesn't get released until it hits the blood stream where it will then interact mainly with skeletal muscle (and of course various organs, just like standard injectable IGF-1)
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Thanks for the explanation
 
Truthfully, I'm less interested in bloodwork and more interested in body composition changes. Your IGF-1 might go up after ingesting 25 caps a day, super duper cool! But what did that mean in terms of muscle mass development over the course of a bottle? I'm only in week 2 of mine and just upped things to 10x caps a day, so far not a noticeable difference on anything aside from strange sleep patterns. I'm not expecting to instantly blow up on this stuff, but at this point in the game with others not really reporting any quantifiable gainz it's starting to feel like a hard lesson learned.
 
urbanlifter said:
Truthfully, I'm less interested in bloodwork and more interested in body composition changes. Your IGF-1 might go up after ingesting 25 caps a day, super duper cool! But what did that mean in terms of muscle mass development over the course of a bottle? I'm only in week 2 of mine and just upped things to 10x caps a day, so far not a noticeable difference on anything aside from strange sleep patterns. I'm not expecting to instantly blow up on this stuff, but at this point in the game with others not really reporting any quantifiable gainz it's starting to feel like a hard lesson learned.
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But to be fair even locally injected igf-1 doesn’t produce any real noticeable differences until several months later at least. Not a defense of the product but just a general fact about igf’s role in muscle development. Either way I would think if results were to be possible with this product, it would necessitate at least 3 months of consistent dosing.
 
bigdavid said:
But to be fair even locally injected igf-1 doesn’t produce any real noticeable differences until several months later at least. Not a defense of the product but just a general fact about igf’s role in muscle development. Either way I would think if results were to be possible with this product, it would necessitate at least 3 months of consistent dosing.
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Being ignorant to the alternatives, I'm admittedly new to the game (PWO's only), would you say there are better ways to spend $200? For me any product that costs that much should come with enough dosing to make at least make an impact, if the reps would have pushed "You need 2-3 bottles before you experience the greatness" I would have seen the money grab red flag and never rolled the dice on this stuff. If that's truly the case, and nothing happens at the end of this bottle (I'm tracking body composition), this will be the last HT product for me. Fingers crossed I'm wrong.
 
urbanlifter said:
Being ignorant to the alternatives, I'm admittedly new to the game (PWO's only), would you say there are better ways to spend $200? For me any product that costs that much should come with enough dosing to make at least make an impact, if the reps would have pushed "You need 2-3 bottles before you experience the greatness" I would have seen the money grab red flag and never rolled the dice on this stuff. If that's truly the case, and nothing happens at the end of this bottle (I'm tracking body composition), this will be the last HT product for me. Fingers crossed I'm wrong.
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I hope you are wrong and I hope you see great results. Ultimately, if you do not however, I hope you can see many of the great product HTP does produce that garner rave reviews time and time again.
 
urbanlifter said:
Truthfully, I'm less interested in bloodwork and more interested in body composition changes. Your IGF-1 might go up after ingesting 25 caps a day, super duper cool! But what did that mean in terms of muscle mass development over the course of a bottle? I'm only in week 2 of mine and just upped things to 10x caps a day, so far not a noticeable difference on anything aside from strange sleep patterns. I'm not expecting to instantly blow up on this stuff, but at this point in the game with others not really reporting any quantifiable gainz it's starting to feel like a hard lesson learned.
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I am actually very interested in bloodresults because HGH/IGF-1 need some time to do a work (body composition etc).
If my bloodwork show elevated IGF-1 levels then this product could bring some nice effects taking it lets say 6-8 weeks on and 4 off.(longer period). But if bloodwork show no IGF-1 increase ,there is no reason to experimenting with this any longer.
 
VaughnTrue said:
I hope you are wrong and I hope you see great results. Ultimately, if you do not however, I hope you can see many of the great product HTP does produce that garner rave reviews time and time again.
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Yeah I don’t think it’s fair to judge a company on one product. Gotta keep an open mind or you’re only selling yourself short to potentially beneficial products.
 
bigdavid said:
Yeah I don’t think it’s fair to judge a company on one product. Gotta keep an open mind or you’re only selling yourself short to potentially beneficial products.
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It's the principle of the situation, and would make me question the integrity of their other products if they knowingly sold something that didn't produce results. I'm sure they have done PLENTY of testing before launching this product to know whether it works or not, and if they didn't then obviously more red flags there. Not knocking them just yet of course, with what I spent no one want's this stuff to work more than I do right now LOL.
 
urbanlifter said:
It's the principle of the situation, and would make me question the integrity of their other products if they knowingly sold something that didn't produce results. I'm sure they have done PLENTY of testing before launching this product to know whether it works or not, and if they didn't then obviously more red flags there. Not knocking them just yet of course, with what I spent no one want's this stuff to work more than I do right now LOL.
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We all do...
 
Update - I have 8-days worth of pills left. I didn't think this product was doing much, but these last two bench days I have been moving a little more weight around. No visual changes, but feeling slightly stronger. If this was contributed to IGF, I would still say it's not worth it. Just to much $$, if the price was $40 per bottle I'd run it again, but at 85+ I won't.
 
Joe12 said:
Update - I have 8-days worth of pills left. I didn't think this product was doing much, but these last two bench days I have been moving a little more weight around. No visual changes, but feeling slightly stronger. If this was contributed to IGF, I would still say it's not worth it. Just to much $$, if the price was $40 per bottle I'd run it again, but at 85+ I won't.
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I'm glad you are at least progressing, igf related or not bro.
 
The only way we will know if it really work, only if we try it our selves. Supplements sometimes have a different effect on each of us differently, so I think I'm going to give it a try. So don't knock it, until you try it. I'm 100 % sure that a lot of you guys have wasted way more money trying other supplements to see if it work. We have to try things out to see what works best for us......I'm going to try it with the cutting stack for 2 months alone with TRT. I'm 6-1, 240, 44 and very athletic......
 
Bigbwoy said:
The only way we will know if it really work, only if we try it our selves. Supplements sometimes have a different effect on each of us differently, so I think I'm going to give it a try. So don't knock it, until you try it. I'm 100 % sure that a lot of you guys have wasted way more money trying other supplements to see if it work. We have to try things out to see what works best for us......I'm going to try it with the cutting stack for 2 months alone with TRT. I'm 6-1, 240, 44 and very athletic......
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1. IGF-1 works for anyone and its not like (it works for you but not for me). It will elevate IGF-1 levels to anyone!
2. If a guy try 5x recommended dose and bloodwork show no effect at all,do you really think it would work any different for you or other? It wouldnt.

I am not saying you shouldnt buy it. Not at all. But its totaly wrong saying "The only way we will know if it really work, only if we try it our selves." This is not a herbal/plant product where some ingredients may work better for some and less for other.

This product is claimed to be same as real injectable IGF-1 and bloodwork will be best way to see if it has any potential or not.
 
Bigbwoy said:
Some say it elevated theirs and some say it didn't....so what's you input on that.....
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Who say their IGF-1 was elevated ?
Hi Tech posted 1 bloodwork showing it does. That is fine. Another guy posted own bloodwork showing even decreased levels. I dont think its due to the product ofcourse.but that is definitely sign the product didnt do anything.

I am taking 5x the recommended dose and I am taking bloods next week on tuesday. It will be my 6th week on Pro IGF-1 and if bloodwork show no IGF-1 increase it will be clear proof the product does not do anything.

But i also need to say just because I am not noticing any effects from the product yet I cant say it does nothing. Again,bloodwork IS needed.
 
Danes said:
Who say their IGF-1 was elevated ?
Hi Tech posted 1 bloodwork showing it does. That is fine. Another guy posted own bloodwork showing even decreased levels. I dont think its due to the product ofcourse.but that is definitely sign the product didnt do anything.

I am taking 5x the recommended dose and I am taking bloods next week on tuesday. It will be my 6th week on Pro IGF-1 and if bloodwork show no IGF-1 increase it will be clear proof the product does not do anything.

But i also need to say just because I am not noticing any effects from the product yet I cant say it does nothing. Again,bloodwork IS needed.
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What was your IGF number before starting the product?
 
I've been keeping an eye on this thread as well (while running my own cycle of IGF-1). Like others stated, I'm experiencing the same things ... increased recovery, less soreness, better sleep at night, strength increases (pretty drastically as well) but not much in terms of new muscle growth, body recomp, etc.

Anxious to see more bloodwork come in. Definitely keeping an eye on Danes because that guy is just dosing crazy high and I can't wait to see what that brings :)





-Spaz
 
Big_Spaz said:
I've been keeping an eye on this thread as well (while running my own cycle of IGF-1). Like others stated, I'm experiencing the same things ... increased recovery, less soreness, better sleep at night, strength increases (pretty drastically as well) but not much in terms of new muscle growth, body recomp, etc.

Anxious to see more bloodwork come in. Definitely keeping an eye on Danes because that guy is just dosing crazy high and I can't wait to see what that brings :)





-Spaz
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Thank you Spaz :)

Been on 100mcg lately. 15 tabs 2 hours prior workout and 10 tabs after workout or prior sleep :)

Need to admit I dont feel any increased recovery or any recomp effect.

The only thing I have noticed last weeks is decreased energy. (From I wake up untim I go to bed).But It can be many reasons.one of them is bot having vacation yet this year. (I Have 5 weeks)
The strange thing is,weights feels much easier and I find it damn strange. Even I feel not to go to gym and when coming to the gym I feel like "bah..i dont want to do this". But I get amazed how much lighter weights are while lifting.

Tuesday 9:30 AM = bloodwork :)
 
Danes said:
Thank you Spaz :)

Been on 100mcg lately. 15 tabs 2 hours prior workout and 10 tabs after workout or prior sleep :)

Need to admit I dont feel any increased recovery or any recomp effect.

The only thing I have noticed last weeks is decreased energy. (From I wake up untim I go to bed).But It can be many reasons.one of them is bot having vacation yet this year. (I Have 5 weeks)
The strange thing is,weights feels much easier and I find it damn strange. Even I feel not to go to gym and when coming to the gym I feel like "bah..i dont want to do this". But I get amazed how much lighter weights are while lifting.

Tuesday 9:30 AM = bloodwork :)
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Might it be a sign of.... Strength gains :O
 
Joe12 said:
Update - I have 8-days worth of pills left. I didn't think this product was doing much, but these last two bench days I have been moving a little more weight around. No visual changes, but feeling slightly stronger. If this was contributed to IGF, I would still say it's not worth it. Just to much $$, if the price was $40 per bottle I'd run it again, but at 85+ I won't.
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Thank you Joe for the log and the final verdict. Good to know more data points.
 
Another week in and the only thing I can agree with is having a general lack of energy all day (or slight lethargy), and a slight uptick in strength which I know is more likely a result of consistent training not the IGF-1. I have doubled up on it since the last week (10 daily to finish it off), no real world benefits to report yet.
 
urbanlifter said:
Another week in and the only thing I can agree with is having a general lack of energy all day (or slight lethargy), and a slight uptick in strength which I know is more likely a result of consistent training not the IGF-1. I have doubled up on it since the last week (10 daily to finish it off), no real world benefits to report yet.
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How is your recovery?
 
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