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I'm in, and interested as well, is it try if not taken correctly IGF can be extremely dangerous?
That is what I figured, makes complete sense!from the one salesman I have heard who has been on this almost a month, he said he was extremely impressed at the weight loss he experienced and he wasn't expecting to see that from the product when he started.
I havent heard that before tbh.I'm in, and interested as well, is it try if not taken correctly IGF can be extremely dangerous?
Maybe confused with insulin injections?I havent heard that before tbh.
Correct, he is thinking of insulin.. im fairly certain.I havent heard that before tbh.
Sure dude, I'm 41 & Almost 200lbs.I am in, Joe. Thanks for efford and sharing the experience! Can I ask, how old are you? I am wondering, what changes the item will brink to 39 years old guy....
Looking forward to hear some cool stuff
Are you suggesting that blood tests can only be indicate whether the product works well, and any other result would be inconclusive? Thats unfortunate if true. I am curious what kind of results people are gettingmy biggest fear here is timing blood tests correctly. I want this stuff to work extremely badly not only for HTP's sake, but for my own personal use. IGF-1 has an extremely short half life, so if a blood test comes back saying "nope no increase" does that prove the product doesn't work, or does it mean the timing wasn't perfect to show the boost from 20-40mcg dosing?
so many variables here, so hard to know what the truth is either way unless we get a blood test showing crazy high numbers/increases
HiTechs site..A1 Supps I think..google is your friendWhere is this being sold. I'm a practicing sceptic. I'll try most things once. Will tarry a while through to see how these logs pan out. $100 is a major outlay!
Curious, if the shelf life of IGF-1 is significantly short, is that momentary duration all the body needs to spark growth? I'm assuming the answer is yes.my biggest fear here is timing blood tests correctly. I want this stuff to work extremely badly not only for HTP's sake, but for my own personal use. IGF-1 has an extremely short half life, so if a blood test comes back saying "nope no increase" does that prove the product doesn't work, or does it mean the timing wasn't perfect to show the boost from 20-40mcg dosing?
so many variables here, so hard to know what the truth is either way unless we get a blood test showing crazy high numbers/increases
But theyd have everything to lose doing a low-budget bro study even if the compound works 100% as claimed.I'm supraised that HTP did not run some blood tests , clearly they can afford it and finding a couple of a trusted test subjects should not be a problem either.
You don't lose strength after just 4 days off! Let's keep the reviews in perspectiveUpdate - after throwing out my back on Saturday, I finally recovevered. I made it to the gym yesterday. So far I can't say I've noticed any change, everything is about the same even with 4-day off in a row. Which is crazy for me.
Glad to see you are back to the gym and kept your strength.Update - after throwing out my back on Saturday, I finally recovevered. I made it to the gym yesterday. So far I can't say I've noticed any change, everything is about the same even with 4-day off in a row. Which is crazy for me.
few retailers right now...although I'm not sure of any board sponsors who have it so I can't directly name them here.Where is this being sold. I'm a practicing sceptic. I'll try most things once. Will tarry a while through to see how these logs pan out. $100 is a major outlay!
I never said that...I stated that I wanted the blood tests to show insane increases so everyone on this board can be happy with the results.Are you suggesting that blood tests can only be indicate whether the product works well, and any other result would be inconclusive? Thats unfortunate if true. I am curious what kind of results people are getting
It seems to be enough for the guys injecting it. So if the delivery system/dosing works as claimed, thats a resounding yes.Curious, if the shelf life of IGF-1 is significantly short, is that momentary duration all the body needs to spark growth? I'm assuming the answer is yes.
Don't read into something I didn't wright, lets keep your reading comprehension in perspective. I am heading into almost my second week, it was an overall update.You don't lose strength after just 4 days off! Let's keep the reviews in perspective
was reading into what you wrote. You are saying you've never recovered as quickly from time out of the gym ? What then was the significance of highlighting non loss of strength this time around?Don't read into something I didn't wright, lets keep your reading comprehension in perspective. I am heading into almost my second week, it was an overall update.
I was just trying to say nothing has changed, that's all. But For real, Im not exapectimg to see anything until the 3rd week or so. Just trying to let people know what to exspect.was reading into what you wrote. You are saying you've never recovered as quickly from time out of the gym ? What then was the significance of highlighting non loss of strength this time around?
I was just trying to say nothing has changed, that's all. But For real, Im not exapectimg to see anything until the 3rd week or so. Just trying to let people know what to exspect.
THUMBS UP!Update!!!
Ok boys, this is my first update where I can say this stuff is kicking in. After yesterday's WO, the muscle fullness never left. I literly still have it as I type this. I'm hoping this continues to increase over the next couple weeks.
Also, I normally have a little front shoulder/joint soreness after I bench, but haven't noticed it today. Not 100% sure if that's the IGF since I didn't go super heavy, but I'll take note of it and see if it's consistent over the next several weeks.
seems like the 2 in depth logs i've seen have touched on the pumps/fullness big time on this. very excited to see how it progressesUpdate!!!
Ok boys, this is my first update where I can say this stuff is kicking in. After yesterday's WO, the muscle fullness never left. I literly still have it as I type this. I'm hoping this continues to increase over the next couple weeks.
Also, I normally have a little front shoulder/joint soreness after I bench, but haven't noticed it today. Not 100% sure if that's the IGF since I didn't go super heavy, but I'll take note of it and see if it's consistent over the next several weeks.
I am as well. Like Vaughn said, various users are reporting this so there has to be something too it. I'll be finding out myself very soon!seems like the 2 in depth logs i've seen have touched on the pumps/fullness big time on this. very excited to see how it progresses
Good to hear! I was starting to worry about this one..Update!!!
Ok boys, this is my first update where I can say this stuff is kicking in. After yesterday's WO, the muscle fullness never left. I literly still have it as I type this. I'm hoping this continues to increase over the next couple weeks.
Also, I normally have a little front shoulder/joint soreness after I bench, but haven't noticed it today. Not 100% sure if that's the IGF since I didn't go super heavy, but I'll take note of it and see if it's consistent over the next several weeks.
I can def confirm the fullness. I haven't had any abnormal pump at this point.seems like the 2 in depth logs i've seen have touched on the pumps/fullness big time on this. very excited to see how it progresses
Nice, you should run a log.I am as well. Like Vaughn said, various users are reporting this so there has to be something too it. I'll be finding out myself very soon!
-Spaz
I figured it would take 2-3 weeks. Glad it started to kick in earlier!Good to hear! I was starting to worry about this one..
I would, but I'd rather not let the world know all the different s*it I take lolWould be helpful to see some before/after pics, If u don t mind, Joe.
How many caps are you taking per day.One last thing, as I mentioned before, I've run a lot of cycles so I know the difference between placebo and gains. The fullness that I'm experiencing is definitely being contributed to IGF. This is the exact same fullness I experience when I ran LGD. However keep in mind, I'm specifically speaking about the fullness. LGD went well beyond just fullness. Hoping IGF does as well!!!!
5 cap exactly after a WO.How many caps are you taking per day.
That all makes sense. If you google "GH feedback loop" and go to images you'll see what I mean though.Most of your GH release happens while you're sleeping. That's the reason quality sleep is very important for growth. Right after workout only small squirts (if I may use the word Squirt) of GH gets released. So, IGF-1 intake is not going to affect your GH release. Am I wrong?
No it won't, exogenous/synthetic GH or a constant bleed suppresses natural GH release but IGF1 should not effect it. While IGF is triggered to be made by GH in the liver, it's not it's only action. Basically your body doesn't go "oh there's too much IGF, better stop releasing GH" GHRHs and somatostatin control HGH.That all makes sense. If you google "GH feedback loop" and go to images you'll see what I mean though.
I'm wondering if it has an effect on GH synonymous to suppression of testosterone from anabolics.
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