You’ll be impressedThe formula doesn’t look super impressive, but I keep hearing grrreat things about this product too.
My goto is pes high volume, but thinking of trying the ghost pump
You’ll be impressedThe formula doesn’t look super impressive, but I keep hearing grrreat things about this product too.
My goto is pes high volume, but thinking of trying the ghost pump
Like A Pro Pump & Focus. Delivers both, in spades. And only 125mg of caffeine.What is a good low stim pump formula? A guy I work with is looking for something low stim, big pumps.
+1 for Daft Pump. Can’t handle it on my lower days; the pump is too intense.Daft Pump with caffeine pill, get them while they last.
Daft Pump $15 (Buy-by-the-case) - AnabolicMinds.com
Absolutely, its one of my favorite pump PwOs.Do people still use High volume ?
Yes it's my go to non stim pre workout by PES. There's a good write up on it at Strong Supplement Shop as well:Do people still use High volume ?
How would you rate it compared to ghost pump? I used high volume back in the day and then stopped after the reformulation.Yes it's my go to non stim pre workout by PES. There's a good write up on it at Strong Supplement Shop as well:
I haven't used ghost pump so I can't compareHow would you rate it compared to ghost pump? I used high volume back in the day and then stopped after the reformulation.
I have said this a few times in this thread but I continue to love Animal Primal. Wouldn’t say he has euphoria like these spiked pres but the focus is really goodPosted my own thread without realizing this one existed.
anyways, the 2 main things I look for in a pre:
1. euphoria/in the zone feeling
2. The ability to crank out that 1 extra rep
any suggestions with regards to those 2 qualities ?
Looks like they pulled a lot of suggestions from Innovative Labs Wicked. That routinely goes down to $32 ish on saleLooking at right now on Amazon, called Veinquish …it has a blend of caffeine and 1,3 dimeth. 350mg
Never heard of this brand or pre, curious if any of you have? …I’m off the exotics and don’t plan on starting again. But always curious and maybe one of you all would dig this..it’s going for 39 and has 30 servings
I’m sure it’ll get pulled down soon enough
Didn’t know that one was still around….Does veinquish look decent? I don’t like the prop blend for the stims, especiallyLooks like they pulled a lot of suggestions from Innovative Labs Wicked. That routinely goes down to $32 ish on sale
It’s hands down my favorite. I have no idea why it doesn’t get more run on here.Had my first dose of Collision course, great focus, good energy and holy crap my forearms hurt from the pumps being insane.
people are weird about texture and such but as soon as it hits the water it was like it was never clumpy.It’s hands down my favorite. I have no idea why it doesn’t get more run on here.
That’s a great point. I was the same way at first but I had to tell myself it was the active ingredients and not some filler to get past it. I think it’s a great mix of energy and focus without over stimulation. Obviously the pumps are good. After about 20 min I get this rush of motivation that’s hard to find without my hair standing up on my neckpeople are weird about texture and such but as soon as it hits the water it was like it was never clumpy.
im looking for the next exclusiorYes it's my go to non stim pre workout by PES. There's a good write up on it at Strong Supplement Shop as well:
Recommendation: Do NOT use the full dose of MethylBLUE out of the gate. Some people are fine with it, but most find the max dose too strong. It is a straight simulant. IMPORTANT: Do not take it more than 3 days per week (max), as its mood-boosting effects build tolerance quickly. The stimulating and nootropic effects will remain, but the feel-good portion of the product's effect profile will diminish with regular use. So, take days off inbetween doses!Not preworkouts but I have methyl blue and aterall from ma labs coming tomorrow. Will update in this thread as well. Will probably order muscletech euphoriq next month. Still loving animal primal
Please give an update after testing those. Really wanting to bite the bullet on some methyl blue myself, but waiting until I’m a little more recovered from my distal bicep surgery first lolNot preworkouts but I have methyl blue and aterall from ma labs coming tomorrow. Will update in this thread as well. Will probably order muscletech euphoriq next month. Still loving animal primal
Thank you Mike I remember you suggesting that back in the day and will do so. The starting doses for a lot your products have sometimesRecommendation: Do NOT use the full dose of MethylBLUE out of the gate. Some people are fine with it, but most find the max dose too strong. It is a straight simulant. IMPORTANT: Do not take it more than 3 days per week (max), as its mood-boosting effects build tolerance quickly. The stimulating and nootropic effects will remain, but the feel-good portion of the product's effect profile will diminish with regular use. So, take days off inbetween doses!
Aterall is a great product for wakefulness and cognitive function with moderate low to stimulatory effects (depending on the dose taken). If you want your mind and body to be awake and running on all cylinders...while being able to engage in either physical or mental activity, it is a great product.
Thanks for the business!
I certainly will. I’ve tried fluero Modanifil before and didn’t do a whole lot focus wise but the awareness was useful. I will probably try the methyl blue tomorrow after work to asses tolerance outside of work and aterall Wednesday or Thursday. On call this week so they came just in time. Will report backPlease give an update after testing those. Really wanting to bite the bullet on some methyl blue myself, but waiting until I’m a little more recovered from my distal bicep surgery first lol
Sounds good.Thank you Mike I remember you suggesting that back in the day and will do so. The starting doses for a lot your products have sometimes
Been a bit high for my tolerance so will definitely heed the warning. But I have never been let down by any of them so excited to try. Some of the ingredients in methyl blue have made me a bit nauseated in the past with other products so will probably start safe with a small meal and slightly lower dose. Wanted some different things to shuffle through
Mitra I use for social, relaxing, and work purposes. Try to limit it to twice a week and regular kratom on different three days a week with 2 days a week off kratom altogether. Aterall will be for days I am working in surgery for long 12+ hour days. I will have two of those this week. Methyl blue will probably be for non kratom days, relaxing, or focused work.
How’s that look for you? Thanks again for all the quality stuff
Has anyone tried this yet!? I personally haven't but planning on it!Hosstility by Hosstile is a pre I'm excited to try. We just started carrying it over at Strong Supplement Shop
Hosstility by Hosstile
Fuel your passion with Hosstility Pre Workout by Hosstile Supplements!www.strongsupplementshop.com
All Out has become my favorite pre. A loaded profile and not too stim heavy like many of the current offerings out there. Just the right amount of kickAll Out Ultra and All Out Sweat are returning in Blue Hawaiian shortly!
I've also been using All Out (Ultra in my case) for my normal (non-Exotic stim) PWO and really been impressed by it. I'm not driven hard, but I wind up with great focus, a good pump, and find myself winding up with a better than usual workout (that extra reps/set type thing). Really pricey in the UK. But my go-to at this point, despite the cost, due to the quality of workouts.All Out has become my favorite pre. A loaded profile and not too stim heavy like many of the current offerings out there. Just the right amount of kick
Have you seen Collision Course? It's almost identical to All Out, aside from a few things. Collision Course, doesn't contain the Peako2 or ElevATP, taurine or Nitrosigine, but it contains more significantly more citrulline, as well as more 65% glycerol, more Dynamine, and more AstraGin. It also contains ingredients that All Out doesn't contain, such as creatine, sunifiram, and Eria Jarensis. The caffeine is about equal, the theanine is equal, the betaine and beta alanine are equal, etc. Collision Course is also less expensive.I've also been using All Out (Ultra in my case) for my normal (non-Exotic stim) PWO and really been impressed by it. I'm not driven hard, but I wind up with great focus, a good pump, and find myself winding up with a better than usual workout (that extra reps/set type thing). Really pricey in the UK. But my go-to at this point, despite the cost, due to the quality of workouts.
I’ve used collision course before and am a big fan! Ordered some methyl blue and mitradopa today to try out as well and can’t wait to test out some more great MA products. I think Methyl Blue will make for an amazing workout experience.Have you seen Collision Course? It's almost identical to All Out, aside from a few things. Collision Course, doesn't contain the Peako2 or ElevATP, taurine or Nitrosigine, but it contains more significantly more citrulline, as well as more 65% glycerol, more Dynamine, and more AstraGin. It also contains ingredients that All Out doesn't contain, such as creatine, sunifiram, and Eria Jarensis. The caffeine is about equal, the theanine is equal, the betaine and beta alanine are equal, etc. Collision Course is also less expensive.
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Either way of all the companies to NOT COPY a pre from Insane Labz would be at the top of my list. All prop blends with unknown amounts of stims and from personal experience way to much yohimbine. Just look at the total weight of the blends and it's not enough for BA and pump ingredients combined. Personally I would find something better.Is this PWO legit?
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I have seen this PWO sold in various sites but IMO there is no company named "Psychotic Labz" and there's no website w/ that name. The ingredients are similar to Insane Labz products and the logo font is the same. Address is in Arkansas which is where Insane Labz is - but this product is not on Insane Labs website. Anyone tried it or know where this comes from?
Thanks, yeah Insane Labz still does these kinds of opaque prop blends. And to this day no one knows what Ampiberry is lolEither way of all the companies to NOT COPY a pre from Insane Labz would be at the top of my list. All prop blends with unknown amounts of stims and from personal experience way to much yohimbine. Just look at the total weight of the blends and it's not enough for BA and pump ingredients combined. Personally I would find something better.
I'd love to give it a try. There are a number of MA Labs products I'd really enjoy trying. I'm a little worried about a couple getting past customs (some ingredients might not be allowed). My hope it to pick up some products on my next visit to the States and carry them across myself.Have you seen Collision Course?
Look closely it's PanDAMIC, so totally cool. If that really upsets someone they are the type looking to be upset.good stuff it looks like, but naming a PWO "pandemic" just after covid apocalypse might be a bit distasteful lol
It's juniper extract that increases the effectiveness of caffeine according to the makers. I know it certainly feels stronger than the other stims alone when it is in there. Some reputable brands, Rule1, use juniper berry extract in their pre.Thanks, yeah Insane Labz still does these kinds of opaque prop blends. And to this day no one knows what Ampiberry is lol
Covid Apocalypse?? Come on mangood stuff it looks like, but naming a PWO "pandemic" just after covid apocalypse might be a bit distasteful lol
Thats what we call it colloquially in my area. I didn't invent this termCovid Apocalypse?? Come on man
Understood….but it’s far from an apocalypseThats what we call it colloquially in my area. I didn't invent this term
if you haven’t tried it yet, you should check out All Out by Iconic Formulations. It’s a loaded profileI'm thinking about getting the Mesomorph PWO
actually it's my first time hearing the name lol, will google itif you haven’t tried it yet, you should check out All Out by Iconic Formulations. It’s a loaded profile
I looked at the ingredients. What's up with the "ancient peat" business? long ago i have seen the study saying ElevateATP has some benefits. But peat is essentially ... coal? i am wary of eating straight coal as supplement lmaoif you haven’t tried it yet, you should check out All Out by Iconic Formulations. It’s a loaded profile
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