Prevent Testicular Shrinkage with a New Legal hCG Alternative -- 7,8 Benzoflavone

I'm in for this...this is very exciting news, especially if other testers are able to report similar experiences!!!
 
stxnas said:
I'm in for this...this is very exciting news, especially if other testers are able to report similar experiences!!!
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We really want to duplicate these results in other testers on more suppressive cycles… we are still open to providing blood kits if people can meet the requirements.

-Pp
 
Nunes, are you in?
 
Hell, I might get another bottle of Sustain Alpha so I can double dose it for the first 2 weeks of PCT. I know the old Dermacrine Sustain worked for PCT... I came back like I never got off cycle.
 
Hey Eric -- this question doesn't relate specifically to one of your products, but knowing what a stand-up guy you are, I'm guessing you'll answer it...
OK, I detest transdermals -- basically because I'm too damn lazy/busy to deal with the added hassle of td application. (I also won't use injectables -- not because I'm afraid of needles, I simply don't want the hassles.) So basically, I'm a pill popper -- quick and clean. Is there an oral alternative to Sustain Alpha that would supply adequate 7,8 Benzoflavone?
[I have some Pinnacle Fuse "Total Testosterone Domination" (awesome) that contains "pentahydroxy-8-methoxy-flavonol" as it's main ingredient. Is that in any way comparable to 7,8 Benzo? And am I a chem-moron, lol?]
 
Hey, im just woundering would it work to brg back ur balls if they didnt come back after a cycle and for somereason ur still shutdown??
 
ImJ2x said:
Hey Eric -- this question doesn't relate specifically to one of your products, but knowing what a stand-up guy you are, I'm guessing you'll answer it...
OK, I detest transdermals -- basically because I'm too damn lazy/busy to deal with the added hassle of td application. (I also won't use injectables -- not because I'm afraid of needles, I simply don't want the hassles.) So basically, I'm a pill popper -- quick and clean. Is there an oral alternative to Sustain Alpha that would supply adequate 7,8 Benzoflavone?
[I have some Pinnacle Fuse "Total Testosterone Domination" (awesome) that contains "pentahydroxy-8-methoxy-flavonol" as it's main ingredient. Is that in any way comparable to 7,8 Benzo? And am I a chem-moron, lol?]
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Im not sure what that is but id doesn’t sound at all similar to 7,8-benzoflavone.

We have actually been considering an a potency oral Sustain Alpha version for guys like you…

-Pp
 
Soad said:
Hey, im just woundering would it work to brg back ur balls if they didnt come back after a cycle and for somereason ur still shutdown??
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Yeah, that is the purpose… but for the on-cycle protocol it would work best if you start the Sustain semi-early in the cycle so you know your testes will still respond.

-Pp
 
so has it been deteremined through the testing that this stuff is useful on-cycle to prevent atrophy?

I like the looks of this stuff but can't decide if id ever use it on cycle or during pct
 
Are LH plasma levels consistent throughout the day or do they naturally fluctuate (higher AM vs. PM)?

If they fluctuate, are the testers getting the bloodwork taken at the same time of the day for each test? Does this matter?
 
Force of Green said:
You'd be better off with transdermal. The Sustain Alpha wouldn't have much of a 'sustained' release in a pill form.
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If it's really that important to have a sustained release, then lower dose pills, 2 or 3 times/day, might do the trick.
 
Primordial Perf said:
We really want to duplicate these results in other testers on more suppressive cycles… we are still open to providing blood kits if people can meet the requirements.

-Pp
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I'd be willing to do this. I'm 12 days into my 1-t /mmv2 cycle and i have about 1 weeks worth of sustain alpha left from a bottle i used a month ago.
 
Lacradocious said:
Are LH plasma levels consistent throughout the day or do they naturally fluctuate (higher AM vs. PM)?

If they fluctuate, are the testers getting the bloodwork taken at the same time of the day for each test? Does this matter?
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Yes, it does fluctuate… that’s why we requested they do both tests at the same time in the morning.

-Pp
 
monsterbox said:
so has it been deteremined through the testing that this stuff is useful on-cycle to prevent atrophy?

I like the looks of this stuff but can't decide if id ever use it on cycle or during pct
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It is doing something positive… but we really would like to do more tests before we can say for 100% that it will prevent suppression for all cycles.

We have yet to find a tester who has shown undetectable levels of LH & FSH during the first test...

-Pp
 
Primordial Perf said:
It is doing something positive… but we really would like to do more tests before we can say for 100% that it will prevent suppression for all cycles.

We have yet to find a tester who has shown undetectable levels of LH & FSH during the first test...

-Pp
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Ah, whatever. I'm using it anyway. It does something good. Anything to aid recovery. ;) I know it's good for PCT.
 
Primordial Perf said:
It is doing something positive… but we really would like to do more tests before we can say for 100% that it will prevent suppression for all cycles.

We have yet to find a tester who has shown undetectable levels of LH & FSH during the first test...

-Pp
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Ive seen this discussed on other boards. I have had good results with this flavone. Just the resveratrol alone probably enhances stamina. Theres a poster at MM that just had his results re-done after a lab error, hopefully those will be posted soon.
 
subbed, interested in this for an upcoming m1,4add/propadrol or m1,4add/havoc cycle (along with some toco-8)
 
Primordial Perf said:
No problem with Hawaii…

What is your cycle plan?

-Pp
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I don't know if it'll be much help, but with my cycle going of Propadrol/Hemadrol, I am using the Sustain Alpha at 10 pumps at night every 5th night. I'm using DNP though so I tend to sweat a lot. However, I apply it after a hot shower and sit around for about 45 minutes in the nude, posting on AM until I feel the formula is soaked in completely. I go to bed like 1.5 hours after that, so even if I sweat during the night, it should still be fine. Right?
 
Primordial Perf said:
No problem with Hawaii…

What is your cycle plan?

-Pp
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i was thinking superdrol 1-4 10mg and superone (1t,4ad td) 8-16 squirts a day with 1.5 bottles so length on that is not set in stone.

im not sure if the superone plus the sustain alpha will oversaturate???

I have other things i can run and come up with cycles for that too.
 
Force of Green said:
I don't know if it'll be much help, but with my cycle going of Propadrol/Hemadrol, I am using the Sustain Alpha at 10 pumps at night every 5th night. I'm using DNP though so I tend to sweat a lot. However, I apply it after a hot shower and sit around for about 45 minutes in the nude, posting on AM until I feel the formula is soaked in completely. I go to bed like 1.5 hours after that, so even if I sweat during the night, it should still be fine. Right?
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Yes, that would be fine.

-Pp
 
pistonpump said:
i was thinking superdrol 1-4 10mg and superone (1t,4ad td) 8-16 squirts a day with 1.5 bottles so length on that is not set in stone.

im not sure if the superone plus the sustain alpha will oversaturate???

I have other things i can run and come up with cycles for that too.
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You will want to try to hit different areas. [eg, scrotum for SA]

-Pp
 
Primordial Perf said:
If using it for the on-cycle protocol I would start 1 week into the cycle and start with 10 pumps two days in a row -- taking 5 days off between each 2-day run.

-Pp
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PP I `m making a test prop cycle right now, do you still think this is the best protocol to use on cycle?
Thanks
 
Hey very interested would it be nesesary for a h drol cycle or is h drol very mild that I wont have problems with my balls
 
Primordial Perf said:
It is doing something positive… but we really would like to do more tests before we can say for 100% that it will prevent suppression for all cycles.

We have yet to find a tester who has shown undetectable levels of LH & FSH during the first test...

-Pp
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pp I want news
 
im about to do a cycle sd + pp i have nolva and clomid for pct, when would be the best time to start using alpha and how many pumps a day? lmk THANKS
 
Soad said:
im about to do a cycle sd + pp i have nolva and clomid for pct, when would be the best time to start using alpha and how many pumps a day? lmk THANKS
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read the thread from the beginning , the answer is here
 
xtgear said:
me too, updates?
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I’m not going to mention names but 2 different testers from this board got the kits and never followed back up with us…

So that’s what’s slowing things up here.

We now have shipped out to more kits to a couple guys that will hopefully be more reliable.

The one guy that did report back did report good results.

-Eric
 
Dont you have employees that are willing to test? It would be much more reliable than hit and miss strangers from boards. There is a guy on MM who claims he will have results on the 11th of this month, hopefully he is legit.
 
Knowbull said:
Here we go Eric, an unbiased, honest volunteer. If you send Johnyq the kit, he will follow through!
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I know, Johny is a good guy..

Employees! They are too busy!... lol seriously though I dont think anybody would believe their results... We try to keep thing unbias as much as we can.

-Eric
 
glg said:
What are your thoughts as far as someone who is post cycle or in an extended TRT program. Do you anticipate it will restore the LH & FSH levels and testicular size in this environment?
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Does trt mean total run time?
 
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