Pre and Intra Workout Protocol

[Hypnotic traveling]

What do you guys consume pre and intra workout? I workout at 4am, before I head to the job site. So i normally pre hydrate the evening before and then :

Wake at 3am
Drink 8 oz water
1g vitamin c
10 or 20 mg cialis
20oz black coffee

At about 3:15 or 3:30am I start consuming pre workout drink

Pre:
100g pineapple
250g coconut water
40oz water
25g EAA

Intra:
1/4 gallon water
50g dextrose
3g Himalayan pink salt
3g taurine
5g Creatine mono

I prefer to consume Whole Foods (chicken, rice and pineapple) about 1.5 hours pre workout but like so many, during this season of my life (3 kids a full time job and an infinite amount of stress) evenings feel so busy and rushed it’s just easier to get my workouts in when everyone’s asleep.

 

[sns8778]

For me it depends on when I workout. Lately, I've been training late at night so its been different for me than when I train in the mornings.

The big difference is that when I train in the mornings, I do 1 to 1.5 scoops of Muscle Addiction Pump Addict Ultra Hardcore to wake me up. I'm not a morning person, so it really helps me get going.

Also, when working out in the mornings, I won't do carbs before or intra, but working out at night, I do. The reason is that if I'm working out in the morning, I'm generally more focused on fat loss.

This is what stays pretty much constant. What I actually take can vary by whatever supplement stack I'm running at the time - which right now is a pretty big stack because I'm doing Anabolic XT, Anabolic Effect, Phosphatidic Acid XT, Recomp20, and Pepti-Plex. Right now timing one dose of those 30 minutes to an hour pre-workout and another dose spaced out 8 to 12 hours apart.

Morning training - pre:

• 1 to 1.5 scoops Muscle Addiction Pump Addict Ultra Hardcore
• SNS Creatine HCI Powder
• SNS Citrulline Malate - 3 to 6 grams
• SNS Sabroxy XT

Evening/Night training - pre:

• SNS Creatine HCI Powder
• SNS Citrulline Malate - 6 grams
• SNS Sabroxy XT

Morning Intra:

• 2 scoops Innovapharm Recover EAA (30 grams EAA's in 2 scoops)
  • I drink about 1/4 to 1/2 a few minutes before training and sip on it intra

Evening/Night training - Intra:

• 2 scoops Innovapharm Recover EAA (30 grams EAA's in 2 scoops)
• 25 grams HBCD
  • I drink about 1/4 to 1/2 a few minutes before training and sip on it intra

Post Workout:

• Muscle Addiction Recovery Fix
• 50 grams of Whey Protein Isolate
• 25 grams HBCD

 

[Resolve10]

You guys got me thinking I need to up my EAA dosage.

Currently training earlyish but not like EARLY like I was previously.

Usual schedule:

Wake up drink 150-200mg Caffeine + 1 cap (300mg) SNS Sabroxy XT + 2 caps SNS Stress and Anxiety Support XT (this is usually 2-3 hours pre-workout so not directly pre, but still feels relevant)

(Currently 1 hour pre-workout I take 4 caps SNS Pepti-plex + 4 caps SNS Phosphatidic Acid XT + 3-6 caps (2-4g) SNS Peak O2)

I mix up roughly 50g HBCD + 15g EAA (currently Recover EAA) + 6g SNS Citrulline Malate + 1g SNS Agmatine + 3g SNS Betaine and drink half to 2/3rds of it 30 minutes pre-workout, refill it and sip the rest during my training. Do this pretty much regardless of when my training is during the day.

30-50g Protein + 3-5g Creatine when I finish my session (varies due to changing schedule and is adjusted depending on how many meals, when I'll eat again next, etc. sometimes I might just go right to eating a meal depending again on the days schedule)

Then I like to eat again 1-2 hours later if things are lined up correctly.

 

[Hypnotic traveling]

For me it depends on when I workout. Lately, I've been training late at night so its been different for me than when I train in the mornings.

The big difference is that when I train in the mornings, I do 1 to 1.5 scoops of Muscle Addiction Pump Addict Ultra Hardcore to wake me up. I'm not a morning person, so it really helps me get going.

Also, when working out in the mornings, I won't do carbs before or intra, but working out at night, I do. The reason is that if I'm working out in the morning, I'm generally more focused on fat loss.

This is what stays pretty much constant. What I actually take can vary by whatever supplement stack I'm running at the time - which right now is a pretty big stack because I'm doing Anabolic XT, Anabolic Effect, Phosphatidic Acid XT, Recomp20, and Pepti-Plex. Right now timing one dose of those 30 minutes to an hour pre-workout and another dose spaced out 8 to 12 hours apart.

Morning training - pre:

• 1 to 1.5 scoops Muscle Addiction Pump Addict Ultra Hardcore
• SNS Creatine HCI Powder
• SNS Citrulline Malate - 3 to 6 grams

Evening/Night training - pre:

• SNS Creatine HCI Powder
• SNS Citrulline Malate - 6 grams

Morning Intra:

• 2 scoops Innovapharm Recover EAA (30 grams EAA's in 2 scoops)
  • I drink about 1/4 to 1/2 a few minutes before training and sip on it intra

Evening/Night training - Intra:

• 2 scoops Innovapharm Recover EAA (30 grams EAA's in 2 scoops)
• 25 grams HBCD
  • I drink about 1/4 to 1/2 a few minutes before training and sip on it intra

Post Workout:

• Muscle Addiction Recovery Fix
• 50 grams of Whey Protein Isolate
• 25 grams HBCD

What’s up man?! Good to hear from you - hope all is well. When you train in the mornings, Do you find not consuming carbs pre/intra affects your energy levels and performance?

 

[Hypnotic traveling]

You guys got me thinking I need to up my EAA dosage.

Currently training earlyish but not like EARLY like I was previously.

Usual schedule:

Wake up drink 150-200mg Caffeine + 1 cap (300mg) SNS Sabroxy XT + 2 caps SNS Stress and Anxiety Support XT (this is usually 2-3 hours pre-workout so not directly pre, but still feels relevant)

(Currently 1 hour pre-workout I take 4 caps SNS Pepti-plex + 4 caps SNS Phosphatidic Acid XT + 3-6 caps (2-4g) SNS Peak O2)

I mix up roughly 50g HBCD + 15g EAA (currently Recover EAA) + 6g SNS Citrulline Malate + 1g SNS Agmatine + 3g SNS Betaine and drink half to 2/3rds of it 30 minutes pre-workout, refill it and sip the rest during my training. Do this pretty much regardless of when my training is during the day.

30-50g Protein + 3-5g Creatine when I finish my session (varies due to changing schedule and is adjusted depending on how many meals, when I'll eat again next, etc. sometimes I might just go right to eating a meal depending again on the days schedule)

Then I like to eat again 1-2 hours later if things are lined up correctly.

Ideally I would use either karbolyn or HBCD, I’m currently using dextrose as funds are super tight at the moment and I got like 10 lbs for $20. Hopefully work picks up soon and I can get back into a bit of a slower releasing carb such as HBCD.

 

[sns8778]

You guys got me thinking I need to up my EAA dosage.

Currently training earlyish but not like EARLY like I was previously.

Usual schedule:

Wake up drink 150-200mg Caffeine + 1 cap (300mg) SNS Sabroxy XT + 2 caps SNS Stress and Anxiety Support XT (this is usually 2-3 hours pre-workout so not directly pre, but still feels relevant)

(Currently 1 hour pre-workout I take 4 caps SNS Pepti-plex + 4 caps SNS Phosphatidic Acid XT + 3-6 caps (2-4g) SNS Peak O2)

I mix up roughly 50g HBCD + 15g EAA (currently Recover EAA) + 6g SNS Citrulline Malate + 1g SNS Agmatine + 3g SNS Betaine and drink half to 2/3rds of it 30 minutes pre-workout, refill it and sip the rest during my training. Do this pretty much regardless of when my training is during the day.

30-50g Protein + 3-5g Creatine when I finish my session (varies due to changing schedule and is adjusted depending on how many meals, when I'll eat again next, etc. sometimes I might just go right to eating a meal depending again on the days schedule)

Then I like to eat again 1-2 hours later if things are lined up correctly.

The reason I do extra EAA's is mainly because of my autoimmune condition. I deal with a certain level of pain and soreness everyday whether I workout or not and the EAA's seem to help, but I only really see a difference if I take a higher dose than the average person.

I forgot to add Sabroxy XT to my own above; I edited that one in. It helps me get my mind on my workout and off everything else going on. If I don't take it, I tend to wind up letting my mind wander and take too long between sets bc I'll wind up thinking about random stuff.

 

[sns8778]

What’s up man?! Good to hear from you - hope all is well. When you train in the mornings, Do you find not consuming carbs pre/intra affects your energy levels and performance?

Thanks. I hope you're doing well also.

I am not a morning person to begin with, so my morning workouts are always going to be worse than my evening or nighttime workouts. I've always been more of a night person all my life. I used to try my best to make myself be a morning person and I finally just said screw it and accepted that it wasn't going to happen.

When my daughter was in school, I'd take her to school and then come to the warehouse and try to do cardio in the mornings, and I've seriously fell asleep sitting up on the row machine before. That's how bad I am in the mornings haha.

My average night, I'm still awake though when you're getting up a lot of times. I normally don't workout until late and sometimes get home midnight to one, and then work some more and don't go to bed until around 3 a lot of nights.

For morning workouts, I generally use Pump Addict Ultra Hardcore to wake me up enough to even do them. It's pretty strong energy wise, but even with that my morning workouts aren't as good as night ones. But, without it, there probably wouldn't be morning workouts at all most of the time

I do think that me not consuming carbs pre/intra before morning workouts does affect my performance though, because it affects my performance when I don't take them before my evening or nighttime workouts.

But the only type of carb I see a difference from pre-workout personally though is HBCD; dextrose for me seems to have the reverse effect and either doesn't help at all or something I feel like I performed worse when I'd tried it pre/intra - but I think that's just a me thing.

Normally for me, I'll try to do cardio in the morning and weight train at night. But if there's weeks I know I can't train at night, I'll try to get them in in the morning. Or, if I'm super focused on fat loss, I will do them in the mornings.

 

[TheMrMuscle]

Ok, I just wanna preface this with syaing that i LOVE to nerd out about nutrient timing for optimal performance and recovery. Id say I enjoy it as much as the training part. So this will seem excessive to most, but it works for me.

I work out in the AM so I actually start my preperation with my last meal of the day before. I want to fill up my glycogen stores as much as possible, while still having optimal sleep.

8.00pm Pre-bed meal:

• 80g Cream of Rice
• 50g Blueberries
• 50g Strawberries
• 20g Callebaut Power 80 Dark Chocolate
• 1 scoop Select Protein
• 2 eggs
• 50g Tomatoes
• 50g Cucumber

Pre-bed supplements:

• 10g L-Glutamine
• Hydration mix (2,5g Taurine, 1g Cranberry Extract, 1g Coconut Water Extract, 250mg Ascorbic Acid, 100mg Dandilion Exctract)
• ZMA with Gaba and L-Theanine
• D3+K2
• Tumeric Extract
• Omega-3

Ive found that this digests really well for me so that i can sleep restfully and usually only have to get up 1-2 times a night to pee.

05.15am Gut Health and Hydration Drink

• 500ml Water
• Hydration mix (2,5g Taurine, 1g Cranberry Extract, 1g Coconut Water Extract, 250mg Ascorbic Acid, 100mg Dandilion Exctract)
• 10g L-Glutamine
• 10g Collagen
• 15g Lemon Juice
• 15g Apple Cider Vinegar

Ive found this to be very necessary to get in as soon as i wake up. It help hydrate of course but also sets my stomach up to digest the pre workout meal.

05.45am Pre-workout Meal

• 80g Cream Of Rice
• 50g Pineapple
• 50g Blueberries
• 10g Callebaut Power 80 Dark Chocolate
• 2 Eggs
• 200g Egg White
• 50g Tomato
• 50g Cucumber

Supplements:

• D3+K2
• Omega-3
• Folic Acid
• 1 Scoop Daft Pump

This meal is pretty similar to the one I have the evening before. It digest perfectly and by the time I get to the gym my stomach feels almost empty. I take Daft Pump with this meal as I feel that pump pwos takes longer to really kick in, plus I dont have any GDA atm so the agmatine in it helps with that.

06.20am Pre Workout:

• 1/2 Serving Prolific
• 1/4 teaspoon salt

Im not a stim guy at all, so my go to pwo's are all more focus and pump based. My facorite is Focus XT and it will be added as soon as its back in stock!

06.50 to 09.00am Intra workout:

• 10g Vitargo, 10g Palatinose, 5g Fructose, 2g CocoMineral, 1g Glycerol, 0,5 Pink Salt, 50g Pomegranata Juice in 1,5l water. (This I sip on during the workout)
• 10g Eaa, 2,5g PeptoPro, 2,5g Hydrolysed Whey Protein, 1g Peak02, 1g Velositol, 500mg Aquamine Mg, 500mg Aquamine F, 50mg Astragin in 200ml water. (This I drink all in one go at 08.00am as I feel that getting all my "proteins" in one bolus has a better effect than sipping on it over a couple of hours time.)

This all sits really good in my stomach and leaves me well hydrated with great performance and recovery that is on point.

10.00am Post-Workout meal:

• 80g Basmati Rice
• 150g Chicken
• 5g Olive oil
• 75g Spinach
• 100g Pineapple
• 75g Zucchini

Another easy to digest, high carb meal to aid in recovery and glycogen replenishment.

This setup works great for me both in performance in the gym but also me being able to perform at work the rest of the day. It probably seems very complicated on paper. But ive been doing this for so many years its like second nature to me by this time.

 

[Darkhorse192]

Ok, I just wanna preface this with syaing that i LOVE to nerd out about nutrient timing for optimal performance and recovery. Id say I enjoy it as much as the training part. So this will seem excessive to most, but it works for me.

I work out in the AM so I actually start my preperation with my last meal of the day before. I want to fill up my glycogen stores as much as possible, while still having optimal sleep.

8.00pm Pre-bed meal:

• 80g Cream of Rice
• 50g Blueberries
• 50g Strawberries
• 20g Callebaut Power 80 Dark Chocolate
• 1 scoop Select Protein
• 2 eggs
• 50g Tomatoes
• 50g Cucumber

Pre-bed supplements:

• 10g L-Glutamine
• Hydration mix (2,5g Taurine, 1g Cranberry Extract, 1g Coconut Water Extract, 250mg Ascorbic Acid, 100mg Dandilion Exctract)
• ZMA with Gaba and L-Theanine
• D3+K2
• Tumeric Extract
• Omega-3

Ive found that this digests really well for me so that i can sleep restfully and usually only have to get up 1-2 times a night to pee.

05.15am Gut Health and Hydration Drink

• 500ml Water
• Hydration mix (2,5g Taurine, 1g Cranberry Extract, 1g Coconut Water Extract, 250mg Ascorbic Acid, 100mg Dandilion Exctract)
• 10g L-Glutamine
• 10g Collagen
• 15g Lemon Juice
• 15g Apple Cider Vinegar

Ive found this to be very necessary to get in as soon as i wake up. It help hydrate of course but also sets my stomach up to digest the pre workout meal.

05.45am Pre-workout Meal

• 80g Cream Of Rice
• 50g Pineapple
• 50g Blueberries
• 10g Callebaut Power 80 Dark Chocolate
• 2 Eggs
• 200g Egg White
• 50g Tomato
• 50g Cucumber

Supplements:

• D3+K2
• Omega-3
• Folic Acid
• 1 Scoop Daft Pump

This meal is pretty similar to the one I have the evening before. It digest perfectly and by the time I get to the gym my stomach feels almost empty. I take Daft Pump with this meal as I feel that pump pwos takes longer to really kick in, plus I dont have any GDA atm so the agmatine in it helps with that.

06.20am Pre Workout:

• 1/2 Serving Prolific
• 1/4 teaspoon salt

Im not a stim guy at all, so my go to pwo's are all more focus and pump based. My facorite is Focus XT and it will be added as soon as its back in stock!

06.50 to 09.00am Intra workout:

• 10g Vitargo, 10g Palatinose, 5g Fructose, 2g CocoMineral, 1g Glycerol, 0,5 Pink Salt, 50g Pomegranata Juice in 1,5l water. (This I sip on during the workout)
• 10g Eaa, 2,5g PeptoPro, 2,5g Hydrolysed Whey Protein, 1g Peak02, 1g Velositol, 500mg Aquamine Mg, 500mg Aquamine F, 50mg Astragin in 200ml water. (This I drink all in one go at 08.00am as I feel that getting all my "proteins" in one bolus has a better effect than sipping on it over a couple of hours time.)

This all sits really good in my stomach and leaves me well hydrated with great performance and recovery that is on point.

10.00am Post-Workout meal:

• 80g Basmati Rice
• 150g Chicken
• 5g Olive oil
• 75g Spinach
• 100g Pineapple
• 75g Zucchini

Another easy to digest, high carb meal to aid in recovery and glycogen replenishment.

This setup works great for me both in performance in the gym but also me being able to perform at work the rest of the day. It probably seems very complicated on paper. But ive been doing this for so many years its like second nature to me by this time.

great post brother

 

[PolishHamm3r77]

Ok, I just wanna preface this with syaing that i LOVE to nerd out about nutrient timing for optimal performance and recovery. Id say I enjoy it as much as the training part. So this will seem excessive to most, but it works for me.

I work out in the AM so I actually start my preperation with my last meal of the day before. I want to fill up my glycogen stores as much as possible, while still having optimal sleep.

8.00pm Pre-bed meal:

• 80g Cream of Rice
• 50g Blueberries
• 50g Strawberries
• 20g Callebaut Power 80 Dark Chocolate
• 1 scoop Select Protein
• 2 eggs
• 50g Tomatoes
• 50g Cucumber

Pre-bed supplements:

• 10g L-Glutamine
• Hydration mix (2,5g Taurine, 1g Cranberry Extract, 1g Coconut Water Extract, 250mg Ascorbic Acid, 100mg Dandilion Exctract)
• ZMA with Gaba and L-Theanine
• D3+K2
• Tumeric Extract
• Omega-3

Ive found that this digests really well for me so that i can sleep restfully and usually only have to get up 1-2 times a night to pee.

05.15am Gut Health and Hydration Drink

• 500ml Water
• Hydration mix (2,5g Taurine, 1g Cranberry Extract, 1g Coconut Water Extract, 250mg Ascorbic Acid, 100mg Dandilion Exctract)
• 10g L-Glutamine
• 10g Collagen
• 15g Lemon Juice
• 15g Apple Cider Vinegar

Ive found this to be very necessary to get in as soon as i wake up. It help hydrate of course but also sets my stomach up to digest the pre workout meal.

05.45am Pre-workout Meal

• 80g Cream Of Rice
• 50g Pineapple
• 50g Blueberries
• 10g Callebaut Power 80 Dark Chocolate
• 2 Eggs
• 200g Egg White
• 50g Tomato
• 50g Cucumber

Supplements:

• D3+K2
• Omega-3
• Folic Acid
• 1 Scoop Daft Pump

This meal is pretty similar to the one I have the evening before. It digest perfectly and by the time I get to the gym my stomach feels almost empty. I take Daft Pump with this meal as I feel that pump pwos takes longer to really kick in, plus I dont have any GDA atm so the agmatine in it helps with that.

06.20am Pre Workout:

• 1/2 Serving Prolific
• 1/4 teaspoon salt

Im not a stim guy at all, so my go to pwo's are all more focus and pump based. My facorite is Focus XT and it will be added as soon as its back in stock!

06.50 to 09.00am Intra workout:

• 10g Vitargo, 10g Palatinose, 5g Fructose, 2g CocoMineral, 1g Glycerol, 0,5 Pink Salt, 50g Pomegranata Juice in 1,5l water. (This I sip on during the workout)
• 10g Eaa, 2,5g PeptoPro, 2,5g Hydrolysed Whey Protein, 1g Peak02, 1g Velositol, 500mg Aquamine Mg, 500mg Aquamine F, 50mg Astragin in 200ml water. (This I drink all in one go at 08.00am as I feel that getting all my "proteins" in one bolus has a better effect than sipping on it over a couple of hours time.)

This all sits really good in my stomach and leaves me well hydrated with great performance and recovery that is on point.

10.00am Post-Workout meal:

• 80g Basmati Rice
• 150g Chicken
• 5g Olive oil
• 75g Spinach
• 100g Pineapple
• 75g Zucchini

Another easy to digest, high carb meal to aid in recovery and glycogen replenishment.

This setup works great for me both in performance in the gym but also me being able to perform at work the rest of the day. It probably seems very complicated on paper. But ive been doing this for so many years its like second nature to me by this time.

That is impressive!!!
When you see a list like that and have to “Google” what things are is the exact moment you know you need to step up your game.

 

[SweetLou321]

At this point in my training. I just eat something with protein a few hours before and a few hours after training. Drink some coffee/tea in the morning and/or afternoon. Train when I can fit it for me during the day. Just drink water before, during, or after. In an ideal world I would at least have a cup of coffee in the morning before some kinda of training lol. I do still make progress with this and have no desire to get more dialed with my timing of things at this point.

 

[Hyde]

At this point in my training. I just eat something with protein a few hours before and a few hours after training. Drink some coffee/tea in the morning and/or afternoon. Train when I can fit it for me during the day. Just drink water before, during, or after. In an ideal world I would at least have a cup of coffee in the morning before some kinda of training lol. I do still make progress with this and have no desire to get more dialed with my timing of things at this point.

You know Lou, they make these things called caffeine tabs they sell at the supermarket for about $5 for 80x200mg tabs. You can just bite one in half for 100mg if you don’t have a cup of coffee brewed & you can keep them anywhere. You don’t have to go without in America

 

[AwakeningAlpha]

Pre Meal: 2 cups Bone Broth Basmati Rice & Chicken Breast

Pre Supps: Dihexa, Epicatechin, PA XT, Biotin, Sometimes Ephedrine , Sometimes Arachidonic acid

Pre/ Intra Drink: BioPump'd (10G L-Citruline, Huperzine, Mucuna and the usual pump ingredients), Creatine, Glycerol, 1/4 tsp Celtic or Pink salt, BCAA's, L-Carnitine, Chrysin

Post Meal: BCAA's, 2 cups Basmati Rice & Chicken Breast ... Plus Whey Protein and Strawberry Shake on leg days

 

[Darkhorse192]

great post brother

interesting, never heard of adding a low dose of whey into the EAA intra

also, a 1/8-1/4 tsp of sea salt to the dome right as walk into the gym is so underrated

 

[Resolve10]

interesting, never heard of adding a low dose of whey into the EAA intra

also, a 1/8-1/4 tsp of sea salt to the dome right as walk into the gym is so underrated

It was definitely big maybe 15 years ago? I used to use AEN Intrabolic and Omega Strive that were intra-workouts with EAA + hydrolyzed proteins (plus some extras). Problem was hydrolyzed protein tastes like garbage and was hard to flavor so most people didn’t use them continuously.

 

[Mike Arnold]

What do you guys consume pre and intra workout? I workout at 4am, before I head to the job site. So i normally pre hydrate the evening before and then :

Wake at 3am
Drink 8 oz water
1g vitamin c
10 or 20 mg cialis
20oz black coffee

At about 3:15 or 3:30am I start consuming pre workout drink

Pre:
100g pineapple
250g coconut water
40oz water
25g EAA

Intra:
1/4 gallon water
50g dextrose
3g Himalayan pink salt
3g taurine
5g Creatine mono

I prefer to consume Whole Foods (chicken, rice and pineapple) about 1.5 hours pre workout but like so many, during this season of my life (3 kids a full time job and an infinite amount of stress) evenings feel so busy and rushed it’s just easier to get my workouts in when everyone’s asleep.

Not sure if you saw the New ProSynthesis-17 product, but it contains exactly 25 grams of EAAs per serving, along with other beneficial amino acids, such as taurine, citrulline, glycine, betaine, etc.

 

[TheMrMuscle]

interesting, never heard of adding a low dose of whey into the EAA intra

also, a 1/8-1/4 tsp of sea salt to the dome right as walk into the gym is so underrated

It was definitely big maybe 15 years ago? I used to use AEN Intrabolic and Omega Strive that were intra-workouts with EAA + hydrolyzed proteins (plus some extras). Problem was hydrolyzed protein tastes like garbage and was hard to flavor so most people didn’t use them continuously.

Yeah ive been doing PeptoPro (Hydrolysed Casein) for years now but the taste leaves a lot to be desired. But as I slam it all at once it doest bother me. Then i found a products that mixed hydrolysed whey, hydrolysed casein, EAAs and actually tasted good. Havent looked back since.

 

[Stacks1]

I workout around noon and I always have a meal with protein and carbs. Something like chicken and rice is typical. Could be chicken and whole wheat pasta, sirloin steak and potato... it really varies but it's always rich in protein and has carbs. In addition to that, I'll usually either have some sort of pre-workout supplement with caffeine or have a coffee. I usually cut back on stims when on cycle, so I'm more likely go with something more milder on cycle and something stronger off cycle.

Intra workout I have nothing but about a half gallon of water. If I had a really long and grueling workout ahead of me I might have a Gatorade on hand, otherwise it's almost always just water. I just don't feel great drinking creatine, BCAAs, etc during my workouts.

 

[Smont]

Not sure if you saw the New ProSynthesis-17 product, but it contains exactly 25 grams of EAAs per serving, along with other beneficial amino acids, such as taurine, citrulline, glycine, betaine, etc.

Just took my first serving yesterday and second today.

What do you guys consume pre and intra workout? I workout at 4am, before I head to the job site. So i normally pre hydrate the evening before and then :

Wake at 3am
Drink 8 oz water
1g vitamin c
10 or 20 mg cialis
20oz black coffee

At about 3:15 or 3:30am I start consuming pre workout drink

Pre:
100g pineapple
250g coconut water
40oz water
25g EAA

Intra:
1/4 gallon water
50g dextrose
3g Himalayan pink salt
3g taurine
5g Creatine mono

I prefer to consume Whole Foods (chicken, rice and pineapple) about 1.5 hours pre workout but like so many, during this season of my life (3 kids a full time job and an infinite amount of stress) evenings feel so busy and rushed it’s just easier to get my workouts in when everyone’s asleep.

I'm just starting to do 2 a day training sessions again and I have to lift at 5am now so I'm already on 6.5hrs sleep and can't sacrifice more time for a pre workout meal.

430am om drinking 2 cups of low fat lactose free chocolate milk and taking my nac, vd3, 5mg tadalifil and 80-100mg caffeine.

I'm taking a serving of prosthesis + 10gm of creatine and drink about 3/4 of it on my ride to the gym and fill it back up with more water and sip the rest through my workouts.


Normally I would do the same with a normal eaa supp @2-3 servings pre/intra.

After the gym I'm waiting about 45min and then having 3/4 cup eggwhites, 2whole eggs and a bagel. Eggs on the bagel with a little ketchup and salt

 

[Hyde]

All my training is early morning before work right now, no time to digest a meal prior.

40 min pre:
-16oz water
-Cup of black coffee or a caffeine tab
-SNS Creatine HCL capsules & 3g Astragalus
-B50 Complex, Hup A, Citicholine OR a scoop of Focus XT
-200mg Coq10 +20mg PQQ
-12.5mg Ephedrine if needed

20 min Pre:
-3 scoops MA Labs ProSynthesis-17 w/ added iodized salt
-Injection of L-Carnitine
-Large Rice Krispies bar as I head to the gym

Intra:
-75g Karbolyn, 30g glutamine, salt in 64oz water

Post:
-16oz Fairlife milk, 24g egg white protein, 24g whey, 20g collagen, 100g carbs from dextrose, corn, oat, sweet potato (Mutant Mass)

Rest of the day is food.

Not sure if you saw the New ProSynthesis-17 product, but it contains exactly 25 grams of EAAs per serving, along with other beneficial amino acids, such as taurine, citrulline, glycine, betaine, etc.

I’m into my second tub of ProSynthesis now and I just wanted to say that I am really pleased with it. You get used to the taste pretty quickly. I’ll definitely be picking up more tubs come Black Friday as this one runs out.

 

[AwakeningAlpha]

Yeah ive been doing PeptoPro (Hydrolysed Casein) for years now but the taste leaves a lot to be desired. But as I slam it all at once it doest bother me. Then i found a products that mixed hydrolysed whey, hydrolysed casein, EAAs and actually tasted good. Havent looked back since.

I'm sorry if I missed it but whats the name of the good tasting hydrolysed product?

Also really want to try ProSynthesis-17 as BCAAS are inferior.

@Hyde I've always timed glutamine pre bed. What do you get out of it dosing it intra?

 

[Hyde]

I'm sorry if I missed it but whats the name of the good tasting hydrolysed product?

Also really want to try ProSynthesis-17 as BCAAS are inferior.

@Hyde I've always timed glutamine pre bed. What do you get out of it dosing it intra?

You wouldn’t bother using hydrolysate if you used ProSynthesis. It would be one or the other as basically fill similar roles, super available protein/aminos.

Glutamine really helps keep my gut health up and prevent acid reflux when I am consuming all these carbs and artificial sweeteners around training, or the sugary Rice Krispies. It bolsters my immune system and may help with DOMS some. It’s also just a very convenient time to consume as I’m already scooping out powders.

Said another way, helps keep my tummy happy in training, even if I take an oral steroid prior.

 

[Resolve10]

Glutamine also can potentially preserve IL-6 levels, maintain glutamine levels during training (potentially preserving predominantly cardiovascular training performance by decreasing ammonia build up), and potentially reduce immune cell damage during training (albeit all these tend to be seen more likely in longer and more cardiovascular intensive training sessions).

Maybe (maybeeee) helps with glycogen replenishment as well.

The gut health stuff though is pretty sweet though too.

 

[TheMrMuscle]

I'm sorry if I missed it but whats the name of the good tasting hydrolysed product?

It’s called MPS Max by TBJP which is a British brand. So don’t know how available it is outside of Europe.

 

[Resolve10]

It’s called MPS Max by TBJP which is a British brand. So don’t know how available it is outside of Europe.

I almost posted that since it is one of the only I knew of, didn't make the connection that it is probably what you were using.

Remember thinking I'd use if I had access.

 

[AwakeningAlpha]

@Resolve10 @Hyde Thanks for the intel. I am going to try adding a scoop of Glutamine to my Pre/Intra drink.

 

[Hypnotic traveling]

Not sure if you saw the New ProSynthesis-17 product, but it contains exactly 25 grams of EAAs per serving, along with other beneficial amino acids, such as taurine, citrulline, glycine, betaine, etc.

No I didn’t see it Mike, I’ll check it out!

 

[Hypnotic traveling]

I almost posted that since it is one of the only I knew of, didn't make the connection that it is probably what you were using.

Remember thinking I'd use if I had access.

Agreed here TBJP is a solid line of supplements, a shame it’s not available here.

 

[Hypnotic traveling]

You wouldn’t bother using hydrolysate if you used ProSynthesis. It would be one or the other as basically fill similar roles, super available protein/aminos.

Glutamine really helps keep my gut health up and prevent acid reflux when I am consuming all these carbs and artificial sweeteners around training, or the sugary Rice Krispies. It bolsters my immune system and may help with DOMS some. It’s also just a very convenient time to consume as I’m already scooping out powders.

Said another way, helps keep my tummy happy in training, even if I take an oral steroid prior.

I like the idea of throwing some glutamine into the intra, I think I’ll give this a try

 

[Hyde]

I like the idea of throwing some glutamine into the intra, I think I’ll give this a try

I go through about 1 kilo a month at these 30g doses, it’s not trivial. But you can get temporary acid reflux benefits at just ~10g.

 

[Hypnotic traveling]

I go through about 1 kilo a month at these 30g doses, it’s not trivial. But you can get temporary acid reflux benefits at just ~10g.

It’s been a while since I looked but I remember it being relatively inexpensive. What brand do you use?

 

[Hyde]

It’s been a while since I looked but I remember it being relatively inexpensive. What brand do you use?

I think I have used Primaforce the last 3kg very happily.

We’ve all told @sns8778 that if he ever starts offering it we’d buy from him. But I’m not sure there’s particularly good margins for it. It got a lot more expensive during COVID supply disruptions.

 

[sns8778]

I think I have used Primaforce the last 3kg very happily.

We’ve all told @sns8778 that if he ever starts offering it we’d buy from him. But I’m not sure there’s particularly good margins for it. It got a lot more expensive during COVID supply disruptions.

Thank you.

Glutamine is one that we do actually plan on doing within the next couple months. It's like you said, we were waiting for the prices to normalize on it because I didn't want to do it with the supply chain inflated prices and then have the cost of raws drop and be stuck with it.

I'm also going to likely be adding AstraGin to it as well. I think that will help with absorption and amino acid uptake and also they make a good combination for stomach health.

 

[Hyde]

Thank you.

Glutamine is one that we do actually plan on doing within the next couple months. It's like you said, we were waiting for the prices to normalize on it because I didn't want to do it with the supply chain inflated prices and then have the cost of raws drop and be stuck with it.

I'm also going to likely be adding AstraGin to it as well. I think that will help with absorption and amino acid uptake and also they make a good combination for stomach health.

Take my money!

 

[Hypnotic traveling]

Thank you.

Glutamine is one that we do actually plan on doing within the next couple months. It's like you said, we were waiting for the prices to normalize on it because I didn't want to do it with the supply chain inflated prices and then have the cost of raws drop and be stuck with it.

I'm also going to likely be adding AstraGin to it as well. I think that will help with absorption and amino acid uptake and also they make a good combination for stomach health.

This is great. I absolutely love to support SNS whenever possible

 

[Hypnotic traveling]

I think I have used Primaforce the last 3kg very happily.

We’ve all told @sns8778 that if he ever starts offering it we’d buy from him. But I’m not sure there’s particularly good margins for it. It got a lot more expensive during COVID supply disruptions.

I’ll look into it thanks man!

 

[sns8778]

This is great. I absolutely love to support SNS whenever possible

Thank you. I truly appreciate it.

 

[Hypnotic traveling]

Thank you. I truly appreciate it.

Of course man. SNS is always reliable for quality and value. And on a personal level, I think you’re a great human being and you’re a family man. I’ll support that all day 🦾🦾🦾

 

[sns8778]

Of course man. SNS is always reliable for quality and value. And on a personal level, I think you’re a great human being and you’re a family man. I’ll support that all day 🦾🦾🦾

Thank you. I really do appreciate that. Very much.

 

[SweetLou321]

You know Lou, they make these things called caffeine tabs they sell at the supermarket for about $5 for 80x200mg tabs. You can just bite one in half for 100mg if you don’t have a cup of coffee brewed & you can keep them anywhere. You don’t have to go without in America

LOL, love the humor. But in all seriousness, not a bad idea for when in a pinch.

 

[Hyde]

LOL, love the humor. But in all seriousness, not a bad idea for when in a pinch.

Lol it really is. I mean as far as you can leave a bottle in your glovebox, or take them on trips. I greatly prefer to drink/enjoy some coffee, but sometimes it’s just business.

 

[PolishHamm3r77]

So I’m down to my “safety” pre-workout samples. Local store I use to go to gave out samples from various companies if u paid cash on purchases over $100. When I run low on or am sick of what I have a tub of I’ll switch to these as I wait for the new goods.
The labeling on those packets is a young man’s game. Lol. Print was so damn small and I wear contacts for distance so I dumped said packet into shaker, water, chug, and watch 20 min of YouTube b4 I go to my dungeon to hit legs.
I got such an insane pump I could barely make it through my workout, and bailed on my Bulgarian dumbbell split squats. Here is a screenshot of my workout. I did the db calf raises w 60lb db’s. It didn’t log for some reason.
The pump HURT. Felt like such a bitch. I couldn’t go up on weight. I could barely walk. Strangest thing. Pull label from trash, take out contacts so I can read and it was 2 servings and I had already taken 1500mg of Agmatine

 

[PolishHamm3r77]

New goodies just arrived! @sns8778

 

[sns8778]

New goodies just arrived! @sns8778

That's a great stack. I hope that you'll enjoy them. I look forward to hearing your feedback.

 

[Hypnotic traveling]

@sns8778 How much creatine hcl is recommended? 3g?

 

[sns8778]

@sns8778 How much creatine hcl is recommended? 3g?

1.5 to 3 grams. I use 3 grams personally.

All of our flavors on it are good, but I love the Blue Raspberry Popsicle and Pink Grapefruit flavors.

We have capsules as well.

 

[PolishHamm3r77]

That's a great stack. I hope that you'll enjoy them. I look forward to hearing your feedback.

It showed Friday but after I had already worked out. Today was an off-day but tomorrow is chest and tri’s tomorrow. Can’t wait for the test drive!!!

 

[PolishHamm3r77]

That's a great stack. I hope that you'll enjoy them. I look forward to hearing your feedback.

Elbow felt a little off from back and bi’s the other day so I skipped lifting yest and was able to hit it today.

The pre-workout stack of SNS products was AWESOME!!!
I did single doses of…
Citrulline Malate
Creatine HCI
VASOFORCE XT

Now I was taking a stim pre and a pump pre. But this SNS stack has half or a 1/4 of what I was taking before and I noticed a BETTER PUMP with the SNS products.
Something tells me that previous vendor may have been under-dosing their product?

I am rehabbing an injury so all I have is the mind muscle connection and the pump going for me.
I wanted a great pump and SNS delivered.
Steve @sns8778 came through!!! Glad we spoke Steve. Trust in your vendor is a wonderful thing!!!