If you're taking nitrates pre w/o I think it's pretty necessary to take vitamin c. But I try to make my diet fulfill my multi vitamin
To oversimplify the topic, I do not think something that inhibits inflammation should be taken pre-workout. This includes most vitamins/antioxidants. I remember reading a very good article on this very topic from Bill Willis, if I remember correctly. I will see if I can find it.
I don't believe this.
The way I see it, whether you take nothing pre workout, or you take everything under the sun (figuratively speaking) as long as you go in the gym and give 100% and your diet is indicative of your goals you can do no wrong. Just go in, work your a$$ off and feed your body
To oversimplify the topic, I do not think something that inhibits inflammation should be taken pre-workout. This includes most vitamins/antioxidants. I remember reading a very good article on this very topic from Bill Willis, if I remember correctly. I will see if I can find it.
I don't believe this.
I would be interested in reading that article.
Not a guy a lot of you listen too, but Kiefer doesn't recommend anything pre- og intra., but wait a hour after the workout to take your protein so the "workout-signaling" can get a chance to do its magic!
Ben Palkulski, not that I think he his the brains behind much of his philisophies, and the members of his MI40 "team" also preach much of the same philosophy. They just had a You Tube video related to this topic.
I understand there are always a difference of opinion, but logically in my opinion it would seem to make sense to not blunt the affects from the training response. At the end of the day will this have a great limit/benefit on one's overall growth response, perhaps not, but if it is optimal then for me it makes sense to avoid those things. Especially since I can use them later in the day for the same benefits.
That name means nothing to me. You don't get stronger from inflammation, you get stronger from lifting progressively heavier weights. Taking some OTC product that lowers inflammation isn't going to make any difference. But I mean believe what you want, if you think avoid anti-inflammatory products around training is going to help with your progression than go ahead and avoid them.
I'll make it simple in this case: don't dose it periworkout. Don't exceed 500mg in a single dose. And do not even bother using it unless you are overtrained, recovering from some sort of collagenous injury, eat virtually no fruits/veggies, use nitrate salts, or have endothelial dysfunction
Doesn't ARA work through increased inflammation/increased signaling?
Suppversity quoted a study showing that Vitamin C and E taken before a workout, did hinder gains!
That name means nothing to me. You don't get stronger from inflammation, you get stronger from lifting progressively heavier weights. Taking some OTC product that lowers inflammation isn't going to make any difference. But I mean believe what you want, if you think avoid anti-inflammatory products around training is going to help with your progression than go ahead and avoid them.
I do not think I said you would get stronger from inflammation itself?
No worries. I am not here to argue with you about this or argue over semantics. No doubt you are knowledgeable on the topic of nutrition and supplements. I just wanted to point out there is some research out there to substantiate my comments, they are not just off the cuff bull**** statements, but as you said, in regards to the real world results, the difference may not be significant regardless of what the research might possibly suggest.
That's ridiculous. Post the silly study.