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F355 said:
This is true. But I also have read many reviews claiming its pretty weak. I'm guessing it's a very poor quality extract. For cordyceps I only fcks with MST. BN has bulk phenylalanine too but I refuse to shop there just for a handful of items and the fact that they also don't have a certified analysis or GMP stamp on their bulk line, or I don't believe they do; I'll find out. I don't like getting products without knowing their purity and confirmed analysis; NP has this on almost all of their products on the NP line. Either way, NP is my only source for supps which is why it'd be sickkk if they can get up on that bulk phenylalanine and the tons of other requests haha.
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THE REASON I hate to shop there is their lack of quality control. I think Nutraplanet could do better. Let's be honest about MST. Cordyceps products and Ragnarok are their thing. Take those away, and their like muscle tech. They have one prduct that is overpriced electrolytes, and another that is beta alanine in an expensive pill. I would trust Nutra to make a high quality Cordy powder, that would pretty much make MST obsolete.
 
My experience with bulk Cordyceps wasn't that bad. I took a little more than the reccomended dosage, but I was still able to get the extract into my system for less money. It didn't have any extra herbs to help me feel something, but the product seemed to open my lungs, and do what cordyceps are supposed to do.
 
kingdong said:
THE REASON I hate to shop there is their lack of quality control. I think Nutraplanet could do better. Let's be honest about MST. Cordyceps products and Ragnarok are their thing. Take those away, and their like muscle tech. They have one prduct that is overpriced electrolytes, and another that is beta alanine in an expensive pill. I would trust Nutra to make a high quality Cordy powder, that would pretty much make MST obsolete.
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You're right, cordyceps is definitely MST's thing but I wouldn't necessarily say that it's the ONLY thing. I think their MVP/ZMK is one of the best vitamin/mineral combos available. I have been very, very eager to try out Cre 02; that ingredient profile looks incredible. I have never tried Kre-Alkalyn but was always interested in it, and they provide Kreaceps XS which looks awesome as well. Shred Ultra seems reasonable as well. And thing about MST is that they don't really under dose their products. IMO, I think they deliver pretty well for their values.

I will say that the only products I probably will never try would be Carnage and CEE 3000 for obviously reasons. And possibly NitroCeps because I think arginine based products are too overhyped and overrated, at least in my experience. I'm not saying that arginine-based compounds don't work, it's just for me I get well tolerated to them. This does not include citrulline malate and beta alanine though as I like them both very much because they benefit more towards endurance rather than just a "pump". Although I will say, NitroCeps' ingredient profile looks sickkk.

If Nutra picked up on cordyceps, I wouldn't care, I'd still support MST. Hell, it's more of a benefit to me because now I'll have two LEGIT cordyceps sources, again LEGIT.

On that note, Acetyl-L-Tyrosine would be a really great pick up if Nutra can do it. I'd love to just dump that in my Purple Wraath.
 
Fair enough. Anyway, I just whant to reiterate the point I was getting at. If you take enough of a decent cordyceps powder, you can get the results of what cordyceps are supposed to do, for a lower price than Cordygen.
 
kingdong said:
Fair enough. Anyway, I just whant to reiterate the point I was getting at. If you take enough of a decent cordyceps powder, you can get the results of what cordyceps are supposed to do, for a lower price than Cordygen.
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I have no reason to argue that point as I have found taking high dosages of the bulks I consume gives me great results. I know it's kind of breaking the rules to talk about other sources so I apologize, but I did find that some products on BN are provided with a COA, some; I'm assuming maybe they just forgot to either put the other COAs up or they just don't have them for those products.

After giving Cordygen5 and Ultra Cordygen VO2 a go, I've been very tempted to try the bulk. Might just have to now after getting your input because one could never have enough cordyceps.
 
kingdong said:
...If you take enough of a decent cordyceps powder, you can get the results of what cordyceps are supposed to do, for a lower price than Cordygen.
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Certainly not! The extraction technology and the standardization make all the difference. Simply taking copious amounts of any plain cordyceps product just will not cut it.
 
strategicmove said:
Certainly not! The extraction technology and the standardization make all the difference. Simply taking copious amounts of any plain cordyceps product just will not cut it.
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Don't get me wrong, MST knows what herbs to mix with their cordy products, so their products will always be better than any bulk powder, but I still think that CORDYCEPS will do what CORDYCEPS are supposed to do. There is a reason that it took this fungus a while to get known, but I still think there is a healthy amount of the active ingredient in the bulk powder.
 
The Amino Carnitines Squat


Acetyl-L-Carnitine Arginate Dihydrochloride (ArginoCarn®)
Glycine Propionyl-L-Carnitine Hydrochloride (GlycoCarn®)
Taurine Acetyl-L-Carnitine Hydrochloride
Acetyl-L-Carnitine Hydrogen Fumarate
 
kingdong said:
Don't get me wrong, MST knows what herbs to mix with their cordy products, so their products will always be better than any bulk powder, but I still think that CORDYCEPS will do what CORDYCEPS are supposed to do. There is a reason that it took this fungus a while to get known, but I still think there is a healthy amount of the active ingredient in the bulk powder.
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I'm hearing you kingdong. It's a given that MST develops the highest concentration of cordyceps and it's constituents. But if certain bulk cordyceps contain even 1/4 the concentration and extractions of MST's, then I can see how mega dosing the bulk could be useful. Sure you won't get the same effects, weight per weight, but mega dosing the bulk I think can still be beneficial.
 
Oolong Tea standardized for polmerized polyphenols

Cnidium Monnier standardized for Osthole

Get these in Bulks PLEASE, really must haves.

Osthole is great for pumps, and sexual performance.

While Oolong is much more thermogenic then Green Tea, anyone who tried oolong tea, and did research would know. Oolong TEA!
 
MAxximal said:
The Amino Carnitines Squat

Acetyl-L-Carnitine Arginate Dihydrochloride (ArginoCarn®)
Glycine Propionyl-L-Carnitine Hydrochloride (GlycoCarn®)
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NP should pick up Primordial's bulk GPLC and I'm down for the ArginoCarn!

Psychabinol said:
Oolong Tea standardized for polmerized polyphenols

Cnidium Monnier standardized for Osthole

Get these in Bulks PLEASE, really must haves.

Osthole is great for pumps, and sexual performance.

While Oolong is much more thermogenic then Green Tea, anyone who tried oolong tea, and did research would know. Oolong TEA!
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These too!! Also if could find organic standardized Oolong.
 
Im glad u agree bro, Oolong is great, i mean is closely related to Green Tea, but has different enough effects. I notice even more thermo and appetite supression effects from Thermo. Drinking the tea is great, but u know how we have busy schedules to be brewing and drink oolong all day. Have u tried mango oolong tea? Thats some great Stuff.

There are a few companies that put oolong extracts into there products, namely i can think of MAN in their product scorch,which they put, P2 Oolong Tea SE (30% Polymerized Polyphenois, 10 EGCG) 250mg I need bulk OF THIS STUFFFFF. It will stack very well with nutra green tea bulk.

And once again GET SOME OSTHOLE!!!
 
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