Police shoot man
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dsade
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WTF? Paranoid much?
Your view that there is a static, set finite amount of "wealth" is WRONG...period. You know, each person is entitled to opinions. You either base your opinion on facts or you make **** up. Having an opinion does not carry with it the right to be considered correct - sometimes wrong is just wrong.
Improving efficiency, or pioneering a new technology creates NEW wealth, which if significant enough can be used to reestablish trade dominance and eventually pay off debt.
somewhatgifted
Registered User
Zero what type of ladder do you use to get on your horse?
In response to your last post about a "fresh start" how do you suppose americans could rebuild and start over again with the debt cleared?
Makes no sense at all.
The reason that american is broke is because of people who consume beyond their means and oddly the highest percentage of obese population resides in the same areas. Consumption i understand is not eating, rather spending.
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Oddly a recession is the "cure" its the natural rise/fall that keeps things "level". When you eat you use the toilet and the shiet falls. The gov in the US is trying to stop the **** from falling and a catastrophe will ensue becasue it HAS to. From a simple economists perspective its clear EVERY move the Gov has made trying to stop the recession has ONLY made it worse.
Why would the rulers of a nation do such a thing 1) stupidity or 2) the illusion of stupidity. This may be hard to grasp but many people squirrelled ALOT of money away with these buyouts and in reality noone really knows who got what.
Same ole same SOME rich get richer for your work, but such a "in your face" display of raw monetary puppetering power has never unfolded in plain sight.
This new "fresh start" will not be rebuilding from the ground up, as it it were an equal playing field. When "bad" things happen theres one thing we know for sure, people lose rights. Ok some actaully they had them over out of fear and looking for protection, and/or sheer "what, who, what happened?".
This same meddling/corrupting interference in the economy, causing it to be worse... Will/is acting towards your rights as a citizen and human. This same interference of natural processes of live/die and natural selection is also being altered.
DR.D
Well-known member
Yeah, that would change things alright. There's a top level Russian professor and ex-KGB guy who has stated for years now that he saw top secret documents about the future of the US. He said when the economy crashed and money got tight, individual states would start withholding their revenues from the government, basically seceding the Union. Eventually, you would have a US divided up in 5-6 collisions. That's the reset, but it ain't a US reset with a fresh start for citizens because somebody's still gotta pay! All the countries we owe money too will come in while we are war torn and weak, and take a section as compensation for our outstanding debts. East coast goes to EU, west to China, south to Mexico, north to Canada, and Russia would get Alaska back. If you look up our current trade deficits, China, Mexico and Canada are in the top 3, so his model looks alarmingly realistic.
Here's his interview, predicting a 2010 meltdown (there's a map of the sectioned territories too) Very interesting:
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DR.D
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Zero, I love you brother, but you gotta chill out with the gaming. I have tried to admonish you before gently, but you didn't heed my words. The Lord will not employ you to any great significance until you decide to humble yourself and lose the attitude. I think you're brilliant for your age, but you still have much to learn.
First, don't lust after man's attention or approval. Second, stop playing the victim. This is self-focus, fear of man, and idolatry. Are those the masters you really wanna serve? Walk in the Spirit and be done with this folly, because your flesh is a deadly trap if you can't control it. Rise above your emotions and thoughts into the powerful realm of the Spirit!
John 4:24 - God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.
CDB
Registered User
The reasons it's not are because of the blue wall of silence and a general discomfort people have prosecuting those that are charged with protecting the general population. Morally and ethically vacant justifications for not subjecting such criminals to the same standards as all others.
Cops are not a military force. They are not following orders. They are not subject to different standards and laws. They are civilians like all of us, subject to the same exact rules and standards. And, if anything, they should be subject to a higher standard of behavior and relevant just punishment.
Why don't you 'reflect' on all the bullshit reasons the rich get away with more legally than the poor do? Similar different standards, similar bullshit.
scotty2
Well-known member
Thank you for responding to this. My point being, you think those 4 cops decided they wanted to execute that man? What is not known to the public is what street crime unit was doing in that neighborhood. You're from the neighborhood, were you aware of the Bronx rapist? Were you aware that 2 weeks later, 2 blocks away(near you?) he was caught, and fit almost the exact same description as Mr. Diallo? Does that make it ok? Absolutely not. Was it murder, or a tragic mistake? Confluence of mitigating factors. He wasn't even doing anything wrong to warrant police attention, other than his physical appearance. Shame to say, basically came down to the fact that there was a language barrier. Regardless, terrible accident. Trying to paint the picture that there can be exigent circumstances affecting events. My uncle was killed by a teenage girl texting while she was driving, should she be charged with murder? Why not? Death being the ultimate result of both these particular incidents. Why is one an accident and one murder when both involve some type of negligence? Again, not defending the cop's actions if they are, in fact, criminal. Just try to avoid taking suck a strong stance on things, because when it turns out the other way, you look like a real friggin douche bag and have to eat a lot of sh1t. Let it play out.
Caferacer
Member
Because there was intent. I am not speaking badly on your uncle's death at all, but that girl did not aim to gun him down. That officer, regardless of circumstances, drew his weapon and willingly pulled the trigger. That is the difference between manslaughter and murder.
Don't get me wrong, that girl should be in jail, and if she got off easy I would be infuriated. However there is a clear difference. I can, however, see where you are coming from.
Until further details surface there is nothing we can do but stand behind an opinion.
And I don't think anyone here has a problem with anyone having an idea. Even with arms, freedom, and everything else stripped away everyone can always have an opinion. However there is a difference between having an opinion and shouting it out to everyone else until they have the same one (Not necessarily directed at you scotty)
scotty2
Well-known member
I do not think that girl should be in jail. One life is already ruined, why ruin another? Accidents happen. Occasionally they have devastating results. Also, intent is absolutely impossible to prove or determine unless you are a mind reader, that(intent) is a silly thing to hang your hat on.
dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
While I wouldn't go as far as to imply intent, there was most definitely negligence (or failure to intend, as I put it).
Unfortunately, this world's internal conscience is failing, so you can't depend on her feelings of guilt to force her olelearn anything. I think punishment is definitely merited by jailtime
scotty2
Well-known member
While I wouldn't go as far as to imply intent, there was most definitely negligence (or failure to intend, as I put it).
Unfortunately, this world's internal conscience is failing, so you can't depend on her feelings of guilt to force her olelearn anything. I think punishment is definitely merited by jailtime
A little wisdom goes a long way
Bionic
Well-known member
Hey Scotty. The actions taken against Diallo and this other man are indefensible. Period. Even if he was the rapist or this kid was squirming around, the actions taken were negligent, irresponsible and criminal. There's really nothing more to be said. For the most part, I appreciate the police and the service they provide but the history of abuse of power and brutality are undeniable. This cop screwed up and should be treated as anyone else who executes someone. BTW, I'm sorry for what happened to your Uncle. May his soul rest in peace.
