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PCT For a Puss !!!

Meister

Meister

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I need a very effective PCT, but am fearful of ordering a SERM due to the legalities. What is a great PCT that can be taken after a cycle of Halovar? Need to purchase it soon as I started my cycle without having my PCT laid out. ( I know, I know, I know....don't start your cycle without your PCT)
 
Depends on what country he is from. From where I am it is illegal :sad:




Doesn't stop ME though ;)
 
Jlive2480 said:
Says he's from the US. Not illegal.
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Wrong. It is illegal, but I've never heard of anyone prosecuted for it. Look at the laws for your state under Legend Drugs. Here for an example is washington state's

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Sale, delivery, or possession of legend drug without prescription or order prohibited — Exceptions — Penalty.


*** CHANGE IN 2011 *** (SEE 5045.SL) ***

*** CHANGE IN 2011 *** (SEE 1738-S2.SL) ***

(1) It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, deliver, or possess any legend drug except upon the order or prescription of a physician under chapter 18.71 RCW, an osteopathic physician and surgeon under chapter 18.57 RCW, an optometrist licensed under chapter 18.53 RCW who is certified by the optometry board under RCW 18.53.010, a dentist under chapter 18.32 RCW, a podiatric physician and surgeon under chapter 18.22 RCW, a veterinarian under chapter 18.92 RCW, a commissioned medical or dental officer in the United States armed forces or public health service in the discharge of his or her official duties, a duly licensed physician or dentist employed by the veterans administration in the discharge of his or her official duties, a registered nurse or advanced registered nurse practitioner under chapter 18.79 RCW when authorized by the nursing care quality assurance commission, an osteopathic physician assistant under chapter 18.57A RCW when authorized by the board of osteopathic medicine and surgery, a physician assistant under chapter 18.71A RCW when authorized by the medical quality assurance commission, or any of the following professionals in any province of Canada that shares a common border with the state of Washington or in any state of the United States: A physician licensed to practice medicine and surgery or a physician licensed to practice osteopathic medicine and surgery, a dentist licensed to practice dentistry, a podiatric physician and surgeon licensed to practice podiatric medicine and surgery, a licensed advanced registered nurse practitioner, or a veterinarian licensed to practice veterinary medicine: PROVIDED, HOWEVER, That the above provisions shall not apply to sale, delivery, or possession by drug wholesalers or drug manufacturers, or their agents or employees, or to any practitioner acting within the scope of his or her license, or to a common or contract carrier or warehouseman, or any employee thereof, whose possession of any legend drug is in the usual course of business or employment: PROVIDED FURTHER, That nothing in this chapter or chapter 18.64 RCW shall prevent a family planning clinic that is under contract with the department of social and health services from selling, delivering, possessing, and dispensing commercially prepackaged oral contraceptives prescribed by authorized, licensed health care practitioners.

(2)(a) A violation of this section involving the sale, delivery, or possession with intent to sell or deliver is a class B felony punishable according to chapter 9A.20 RCW.

(b) A violation of this section involving possession is a misdemeanor
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But as i've said, i've never heard of an arrest much less conviction for a SERM.
 
Well if your not going to get one here you go

DAA
HCGenerate
Formastanzol
creatine

without having a serm your going to need very good OTC supps. Also only expect to keep 50-60% of your gains by the time your done with PCT.
 
If your absolutely goin to do the OTC route, the TRS and Tcf-1 combo from Primordial Performance is goin to be your best bet.
 
Use the PP PCT like stated above or pick up a stack or Erase, DAA, Reservatrol, and maybe another T booster like Activate Xtreme and PCT Support.
 
gymrat827 said:
Well if your not going to get one here you go

DAA
HCGenerate
Formastanzol
creatine

without having a serm your going to need very good OTC supps. Also only expect to keep 50-60% of your gains by the time your done with PCT.
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This. Or atleast the Invalid Link Removed and creatine. Both are dirt cheap.
 
If you can afford to run a good t booster while on it makes PCT 10x easier. HCGenerate while on and than use Phytoserms in PCT would be great if you dont opt for clomid or nolva.

You wont get as shutdown, which makes keeping your gains that much easier. Some run HCGen @ 4 caps a day so the bottle lasts 5wks instead of 4.
 
Is ordering a SERM illegal? Yes.

But, then again, so is putting an incandescent lightbulb in a socket in your house.

In fact ... WE ARE NATION OF LAWBREAKERS. And that's because ... not enough of us actually break real laws ... so imaginary crimes have to be created.

Place an order for a SERM ... be confident in your PCT ... register a "protest" with your civil disobedience ... join the revolution and FIGHT THE MUTHA ****IN' POWER!
 
just get a liquid serm to possibly have a better shot at fighting it if you got caught. chances are 1-1000 you get busted. i think maybe only huge massive orderes would get popped for intent to sell. if peopel were actually getting busted there would be a lot more threads about it as well as a lot less steroid and ph/ds users. just dont write any sources on here and your fine.
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
just get a liquid serm to possibly have a better shot at fighting it if you got caught. chances are 1-1000 you get busted. i think maybe only huge massive orderes would get popped for intent to sell. if peopel were actually getting busted there would be a lot more threads about it as well as a lot less steroid and ph/ds users. just dont write any sources on here and your fine.
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Honestly:

I'm almost finished planning my 2012 cycles and I will have no choice but to get a SERM. I think once I pop my own cherry, I'll feel a little better about it.
 
i did two OTC PCTS. with a mild hdrol and a mild epi then i did a highdose 6 week p-mag/furuza A with Clomid + OTC and recovered better from a longer higherdose cycle then a mild 4 weeker.

the difference was i kept vascularity, most strength, and usually had lower libido for 7-10 days and it stayed up, no small balls for a couple weeks.

with the OTC i lost 2/3 of gains, almost all strength, libido gone for 2 weeks and then an AI like ATD killed it worse. I never tried DAA till my clomid PCT to which was just great as well.
 
I ran OTC Epidrol by itself and my bench workout weight went up about 140 pounds. I felt like I was the shiznit and I was loving the size I was gaining along with my strength.

I then got to the end of my cycle and like farktard I didn't know anything about PCT's or what I needed to do.

I got a light case of Beachtits and the marbles were painful for days.

I want to run a stack that is guaranteed to put on the size with the gains along with a PCT that will allow me to keep it.

I have done a lot of studying and know a lot more than I did. I know that I need a SERM for a stronger cycle.

Any suggestions you have on Super Cycles and PCT's is welcomed!!!
 
If you add Torem to what you have now ( TRS and Tcf-1 ) you'll increase your chances of recovery even further. That combo is what ive noticed people are raving about the most.
 
torem is worth the extra 15 bucks.

i really like the CEL line and Androseries lines. only two companies i really like. try a Andromass stacked with a cell product.
 
rulk22 said:
If you add Torem to what you have now ( TRS and Tcf-1 ) you'll increase your chances of recovery even further. That combo is what ive noticed people are raving about the most.
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Thanks Rulk.

Depending on how I react to PP products that arrived today (just in time), I will look at running it again as my PCT and adding Torem. I have heard a lot of good things about Torem and the PP products. Thanks again for your help!!!
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
torem is worth the extra 15 bucks.

i really like the CEL line and Androseries lines. only two companies i really like. try a Andromass stacked with a cell product.
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On another thread, I was asking what people thought about running Andro Bulk with Andro Hard and Epidrol as a great mass gainer. What's your opinion on it?
 
i would do andromass with epi.
andromass with dzine (dmz) would be huge gains.
andromass with lmg

all those will require a SERM with a nice OTC stack.
 
Meister said:
Thanks Rulk.

Depending on how I react to PP products that arrived today (just in time), I will look at running it again as my PCT and adding Torem. I have heard a lot of good things about Torem and the PP products. Thanks again for your help!!!
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No problems bro, here to help when I can.
Meister said:
On another thread, I was asking what people thought about running Andro Bulk with Andro Hard and Epidrol as a great mass gainer. What's your opinion on it?
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bigwhiteguy29 has some good ideas. It looks like you can actually stack all 3 ( Andromass, Androbulk and Androhard ). Expensive but it sounds like a helluva cycle.
 
rulk22 said:
If your absolutely goin to do the OTC route, the TRS and Tcf-1 combo from Primordial Performance is goin to be your best bet.
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its the same cost as a bottle of HCGenerte, forma stanzol and DAA. $115 and will easily compare to it in terms of recovery. We openly give out our *needto139* discount code which is good for 15% off and we always offer free shipping. So saying its the best OTC route out there is not the case.
 
Meister said:
I need a very effective PCT, but am fearful of ordering a SERM due to the legalities. What is a great PCT that can be taken after a cycle of Halovar? Need to purchase it soon as I started my cycle without having my PCT laid out. ( I know, I know, I know....don't start your cycle without your PCT)
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simple; the the Nolvadex or clomid if you want a normal pct.
 
if you want OTC help i would rec HCGenerate and t-911 or formaD
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
just get a liquid serm to possibly have a better shot at fighting it if you got caught. chances are 1-1000 you get busted. i think maybe only huge massive orderes would get popped for intent to sell. if peopel were actually getting busted there would be a lot more threads about it as well as a lot less steroid and ph/ds users. just dont write any sources on here and your fine.
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i agree get the damin product you need :-)
 
youmight also want to think about adding test to that run
 
HCGenerate, Formastanozol, and DAA is a very stacked and effective OTC PCT. ;)
 
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