PA vs ARA

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Danes said:
Tried doubledose of V1 And V2 . No pumps,no musclefullness,.. nothing. Went back to Micro PA and BAM! all those effects came back..
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I should have kept a couple from your box so I could compare it with King. :)
 
Is king worth grabbing on sale or should I get SL fearn granules
 
I noticed a difference with fearn vs the vs brand in terms of water retention and get this..... Saw slight flare in gyno
 
I noticed a difference with fearn vs the vs brand in terms of water retention and get this..... Saw slight flare in gyno
 
EBF Inc said:
I noticed a difference with fearn vs the vs brand in terms of water retention and get this..... Saw slight flare in gyno
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which one would you suggest?
 
Kickstart7 said:
which one would you suggest?
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If you want to get the most of PA i would suggest Soy Lecithin granules.
Cheap and easy way to get high doses of PA. And you get other benedicial phospholipids too.

A concentrated PA product will NOT work any bettet than granules. Like Dr. Wilson said. Its not the % of PA which is important. Its the dosage.

If you dont want to take granules due to taste,other phospholipids etc, Biotest Micro-PA and EPIQ phosphatidic acid are amazing.
 
I ordered three tubs of Lecithin Granules by Fearn...so consensus is 30g of granules for 2.4g of PA?

Could I take in my pre-workout drink?

Or would pre-bed smoothie be better?

Thanks.
 
Yes, 2.4 grams, it's on the label.

You can take it all at once with your pre-workout but if you get the runs split it 2 or 3 doses throughout the day.
 
EMPIREMIND said:
Vitacost has their brand granueles for bogo and free ship. Anyone use these before?
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I've been using those for a few months now...started out with Fearns...noticed no difference in effects...though fearn is def 'fresher' and tastier, in that VC, maybe being in a plastic tub, loose that freshness and they are a finer/smaller bits, sometimes powder...but gotta love that value...
 
I hope you refrigerate your raw nuts, too, given that those are a much higher fat-by-weight than lecithin granules.
 
Yea I know, you cant beat it. They got fearn for 7.30 each for 16oz so maybe ill try both.. the nutrition facts on fearn is way better, much more potent from what I can see.
 
Nyrin said:
I hope you refrigerate your raw nuts, too, given that those are a much higher fat-by-weight than lecithin granules.
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I'm pretty sure why many of these soy lecithin tubs state to store opened tubs in the fridge. So, good try at trying to be witty, but, fail.

schizm said:
Ooooh, I'm living on the edge...bucket of fat, come at me bro :)
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I'm going by label directions. Many will state to store, once opened, in the refrigerator. Granted, we're mainly guys here and not many guys read instructions on labels.
 
Danes said:
If you read soy lecithin info/label, open box should be stored in the fridge
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There's a lot of CYA when it comes to that. Perhaps it makes the difference between a shelf life of many years versus the printed expiration date, but considering that lecithin is one of the most common ingredients in non-refrigerated processed foods, I don't think you need to worry.

Plus, a quick look at all of the top lecithin products on amazon (mostly caps) shows none of them recommending refrigeration.
 
kissdadookie said:
I'm pretty sure why many of these soy lecithin tubs state to store opened tubs in the fridge. So, good try at trying to be witty, but, fail.
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I have a bottle of vinegar that has the same thing. It's about as meaningful as the "known to the state of California to cause cancer" labels. Companies have everything to gain by putting this on a package and nothing to lose by doing it.

I am thoroughly and completely unconvinced that lecithin requires refrigeration to maintain a reasonable shelf life. Longer shelf life? Sure. But that applies to virtually anything that's going to oxidize or degrade.
 
Nyrin said:
There's a lot of CYA when it comes to that. Perhaps it makes the difference between a shelf life of many years versus the printed expiration date, but considering that lecithin is one of the most common ingredients in non-refrigerated processed foods, I don't think you need to worry.

Plus, a quick look at all of the top lecithin products on amazon (mostly caps) shows none of them recommending refrigeration.
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I dont worry but i am keeping open boxes in the fridge ;)
 
EMPIREMIND said:
Vitacost has their brand granueles for bogo and free ship. Anyone use these before?
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I use Vitacost all the time, if you are a first time buyer you can use this code for a discount (and I get brownie points)

F772-CE4E53-B24C
 
Nyrin said:
I have a bottle of vinegar that has the same thing. It's about as meaningful as the "known to the state of California to cause cancer" labels. Companies have everything to gain by putting this on a package and nothing to lose by doing it.

I am thoroughly and completely unconvinced that lecithin requires refrigeration to maintain a reasonable shelf life. Longer shelf life? Sure. But that applies to virtually anything that's going to oxidize or degrade.
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If not to prevent it from going rancid, then at least for trying to keep it from clumping. It clumps when you leave it out, I've done it before.
 
Wait...Wait...wait...back up...did dook really say I failed at being witty? You just made a powerful enemy, my friend :eek:

;)
Xoxo
 
machinehead said:
Combining lecithin with F-95 puts you at great danger. Don't start with the full dose pre-workout. Or plan on taking a bathroom break.
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Never had a problem with this. Then again I take lecithin 1-1.25 hrs preworkout and F-95/Norco etc right before I start warming up
 
Fwiw, my tub of vitacost SL, states no direction after opening it and only 'store in a cool, dry place'
 
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