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ORIGIN PREWORKOUT THREAD

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Starting a thread to let everyone know that Origin is half way through production and should have labels for you very soon. This product is going to be one hell of a stack with Protocol. Please follow along to keep up to date with its release and to find out when and where we will be selecting testers.
 
Saw the Tweet this morning and was going to post a thread but decided I'd wait. ;)

Interested in this despite knowing nothing. :(
 
I'm ready for the facts!!
 
That's what she said...
 
Almost done and ready to launch cuz at genomyx we don't bs ;)
 
Not yet because right before going into production we decided to make some updates so well try this again tomorrow :)
 
Not yet because right before going into production we decided to make some updates so well try this again tomorrow :)

Good deal. I would rather here this than deal with all the hype of an upcoming product.
 
lol thanks. I promise this product is rolling out in the next day or two and will complete production as fast as possible. In the process we also completed another formula for a creatine product. Im not sure when it will come out so I'm not going to hype it but its something that will make a great addition to the line.
 
A total workout package!! Very nice guys.
 
lol thanks. I promise this product is rolling out in the next day or two and will complete production as fast as possible. In the process we also completed another formula for a creatine product. Im not sure when it will come out so I'm not going to hype it but its something that will make a great addition to the line.

Sounds great!
 
Interesting developments.. :PatientlyWaiting: ;)
 
Origin is officially going into production today. We went back and forth on this formula. Even though its simple we needed to make sure we beta tested it and it served its purpose as an extremely effective pre workout that only gets better when taken with protocol. This product will launch between the 12th and the 19th. The flavor will be a better tasting Cherry. Well try and get the label up today or tomorrow and release exclusive beta sales most likely next week. Make sure your signed up to receive Genomyx News letters.
 
All over this!!
 
Origin is officially going into production today. We went back and forth on this formula. Even though its simple we needed to make sure we beta tested it and it served its purpose as an extremely effective pre workout that only gets better when taken with protocol. This product will launch between the 12th and the 19th. The flavor will be a better tasting Cherry. Well try and get the label up today or tomorrow and release exclusive beta sales most likely next week. Make sure your signed up to receive Genomyx News letters.

Nice! Looking forward to it.
 
I'm diggin' the profile.

The only thing I'm not interested in is the inclusion of synephrine. It does have a nice elimination half-life of 2-3 hours, but it doesn't have any CNS penetration.
 
Where is this profile?
 
Ok, I don't FB. I'm liking that set up of ingredients though!!
 
Looks nice as long as the price point is good (should be from what I hear).
 
Arnt all our products at a good price point?

Ya not doubting it will be, as I said I heard it should be nice. ;)

Should be a good combo with Protocol.
 
It's very stackable. Simple and effective. You know what your getting and can add things based on personal preference.
 
The only thing I'm not interested in is the inclusion of synephrine. It does have a nice elimination half-life of 2-3 hours, but it doesn't have any CNS penetration.

This seems like it's going to be the focal point of contention for a lot of people, but there are a few things that need to be considered here... and I'm speaking generally here and not directing what I'm saying to you, domore...

First, even at 1.5 servings, there isn't going to be that negative effect on hemodynamics that would occur with other novel stimulants; working with the vasodilative effects of caffeine that occur during exercise, this formula will actually serve to not increase blood pressure.

There is also mixed evidence as to whether or not it does cross the BBB (however weakly), and non-existent affectation of the CNS isn't necessarily a bad thing when there are ingredients that do do that.

There are also the proposed thermogenic and metabolic effects of the ingredient, and, as a catecholamine analog, there is a sympathomimetic component here that critics are overlooking. The direct effect on the CNS isn't needed.

We're allowing the critics (and again, not you specifically, as this is something you've read elsewhere) to roam free at the moment because they dissect formulas well and hone in on single parts of a formula, but once the user feedback begins, we'll see where they stand then.

After all, haters came out in droves when Craze was first released, too. ;)
 
This seems like it's going to be the focal point of contention for a lot of people, but there are a few things that need to be considered here... and I'm speaking generally here and not directing what I'm saying to you, domore...

First, even at 1.5 servings, there isn't going to be that negative effect on hemodynamics that would occur with other novel stimulants; working with the vasodilative effects of caffeine that occur during exercise, this formula will actually serve to not increase blood pressure.

There is also mixed evidence as to whether or not it does cross the BBB (however weakly), and non-existent affectation of the CNS isn't necessarily a bad thing when there are ingredients that do do that.

There are also the proposed thermogenic and metabolic effects of the ingredient, and, as a catecholamine analog, there is a sympathomimetic component here that critics are overlooking. The direct effect on the CNS isn't needed.

We're allowing the critics (and again, not you specifically, as this is something you've read elsewhere) to roam free at the moment because they dissect formulas well and hone in on single parts of a formula, but once the user feedback begins, we'll see where they stand then.

After all, haters came out in droves when Craze was first released, too. ;)

Hey Smitty,

I'm not trying to defame Genomyx or Origin. I am just stating my opinion on synephrine.

As with all supplements, the masses can nit-pick and analyze the formula down to the bone, and share their dislike and their opinions. I'm sure we could spend countless hours going back and forth posting studies on synephrine, but doing so will not get us anywhere.

I'll remain rooted in my stance on synephrine, but that doesn't mean I won't give Origin a chance. I have been exceptionally pleased with the Genomyx products I have tried, and I am pleased with the direction you guys have decided to take Genomyx.
 
Hey Smitty,

I'm not trying to defame Genomyx or Origin. I am just stating my opinion on synephrine.

As with all supplements, the masses can nit-pick and analyze the formula down to the bone, and share their dislike and their opinions. I'm sure we could spend countless hours going back and forth posting studies on synephrine, but doing so will not get us anywhere.

I'll remain rooted in my stance on synephrine, but that doesn't mean I won't give Origin a chance. I have been exceptionally pleased with the Genomyx products I have tried, and I am pleased with the direction you guys have decided to take Genomyx.

No worries, dude... I didn't think that was your aim at all. I've/we've read the comments on other boards regarding the synephrine, and I usually just keep my mouth shut and not bother fueling flames.

We're aware of the negative research, and are aware of the positive and don't just throw ingredients in for the sake of fluffing up the label... most of our supporters know this.

What our critics don't really take the time to realize is that this incarnation of Origin is a beta formula. If we find that synephrine adds nothing, or our customers don't particularly care for its inclusion, we'll take it out... simple as that. That's an enormous reason why we look to and encourage honest feedback from our customers...

If Origin v1 doesn't work for you, Origin v2 will. ;):D
 
No worries, dude... I didn't think that was your aim at all. I've/we've read the comments on other boards regarding the synephrine, and I usually just keep my mouth shut and not bother fueling flames.

We're aware of the negative research, and are aware of the positive and don't just throw ingredients in for the sake of fluffing up the label... most of our supporters know this.

What our critics don't really take the time to realize is that this incarnation of Origin is a beta formula. If we find that synephrine adds nothing, or our customers don't particularly care for its inclusion, we'll take it out... simple as that. That's an enormous reason why we look to and encourage honest feedback from our customers...

If Origin v1 doesn't work for you, Origin v2 will. ;):D

No harm, no foul, Smitty. I didn't mean it as a flame on your product. I'm sure it will be a great product, and have the same cult following your other products have. You guys are transforming yourselves into an even better company.
 
No harm, no foul, Smitty. I didn't mean it as a flame on your product. I'm sure it will be a great product, and have the same cult following your other products have. You guys are transforming yourselves into an even better company.

Thanks, dude!

When it launches, get in touch with me if you'd like to log it for us.
 
Was going to post the label in here but my post count apparently isnt high enough. Whoops
 
Oh yeah, this will be used for sure here!
 
And just to sweeten the deal, this will be priced very competitively... We're thinking $2x.xx. ;)
 
Like the label. Will look nice stacked on top of my Protocol stash. :D
 
Looks cool, nice that you used the DiCaf malate, what is the rosavin percentage for the rhodiola ?
 
Looks cool, nice that you used the DiCaf malate, what is the rosavin percentage for the rhodiola ?

I'm almost positive that it's 3%/1%.

EDIT: Yup... the original label had it at 3% rosavins/1% salidrosides
 
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