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ORIGIN PREWORKOUT THREAD

non-prop blends have me everytime! :woohoo:
 
AZMIDLYF said:
non-prop blends have me everytime! :woohoo:
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And you'll never see another one from us... We would rather catch sh't and defend ourselves against this complaint or that complaint, than to hide it away.
 
Smitty77 said:
I'm almost positive that it's 3%/1%.

EDIT: Yup... the original label had it at 3% rosavins/1% salidrosides
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I figured it was that percentage per the dose....should do a bang up job of ramping up that good ole' dopamine and neurotrans, the combo of SSV2 with this is gonne be awesome for energy and mood boost via adaptogens and the added goodies ( Na-r-ala, theanine, etc. )
 
We had to juggle back and fourth with this formula a lot. Personally I. Love the formula we settled with.

Phones messed up sorry for the grammar
 
Just had some a little while ago and its awesome. Flavor is really good. Slight after taste but nothing bad at all. 12oz of water seems to be the sweet spot.
 
When will I be purchasing this?? Lol
 
See it says coming soon to Nutra. :D
 
I'm excited for the release!
 
So much want!

Stacking with Protocol will be killer.
 
domore said:
I'm diggin' the profile.

The only thing I'm not interested in is the inclusion of synephrine. It does have a nice elimination half-life of 2-3 hours, but it doesn't have any CNS penetration.
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Smitty77 said:
This seems like it's going to be the focal point of contention for a lot of people, but there are a few things that need to be considered here... and I'm speaking generally here and not directing what I'm saying to you, domore...

First, even at 1.5 servings, there isn't going to be that negative effect on hemodynamics that would occur with other novel stimulants; working with the vasodilative effects of caffeine that occur during exercise, this formula will actually serve to not increase blood pressure.

There is also mixed evidence as to whether or not it does cross the BBB (however weakly), and non-existent affectation of the CNS isn't necessarily a bad thing when there are ingredients that do do that.

There are also the proposed thermogenic and metabolic effects of the ingredient, and, as a catecholamine analog, there is a sympathomimetic component here that critics are overlooking. The direct effect on the CNS isn't needed.

We're allowing the critics (and again, not you specifically, as this is something you've read elsewhere) to roam free at the moment because they dissect formulas well and hone in on single parts of a formula, but once the user feedback begins, we'll see where they stand then.

After all, haters came out in droves when Craze was first released, too. ;)
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domore said:
Hey Smitty,

I'm not trying to defame Genomyx or Origin. I am just stating my opinion on synephrine.

As with all supplements, the masses can nit-pick and analyze the formula down to the bone, and share their dislike and their opinions. I'm sure we could spend countless hours going back and forth posting studies on synephrine, but doing so will not get us anywhere.

I'll remain rooted in my stance on synephrine, but that doesn't mean I won't give Origin a chance. I have been exceptionally pleased with the Genomyx products I have tried, and I am pleased with the direction you guys have decided to take Genomyx.
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Smitty77 said:
No worries, dude... I didn't think that was your aim at all. I've/we've read the comments on other boards regarding the synephrine, and I usually just keep my mouth shut and not bother fueling flames.

We're aware of the negative research, and are aware of the positive and don't just throw ingredients in for the sake of fluffing up the label... most of our supporters know this.

What our critics don't really take the time to realize is that this incarnation of Origin is a beta formula. If we find that synephrine adds nothing, or our customers don't particularly care for its inclusion, we'll take it out... simple as that. That's an enormous reason why we look to and encourage honest feedback from our customers...

If Origin v1 doesn't work for you, Origin v2 will. ;):D
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Smitty77 said:
Thanks, dude!

When it launches, get in touch with me if you'd like to log it for us.
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I heard you guys are removing synephrine. I like it, Smitty!!
 
Yes Sir. I just didn't want to make to many updates until I know that material is in the warehouse. We decided to remove the Synepherine for a number of reasons one of them also being that it is not allowed into the U.K I really do not like having to make different versions for different consumers because we want everyone getting the same results so we decided that the formula could do without the Synepherine and instead we have slightly increased the Di caffeine malate.
 
GENOMYX said:
Yes Sir. I just didn't want to make to many updates until I know that material is in the warehouse. We decided to remove the Synepherine for a number of reasons one of them also being that it is not allowed into the U.K I really do not like having to make different versions for different consumers because we want everyone getting the same results so we decided that the formula could do without the Synepherine and instead we have slightly increased the Di caffeine malate.
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It definitely makes sense to not release two versions. It would be a hassle because Americans would want to try the non-synephrine version, and UK residents would want the synephrine version. People want what they can't have.
 
We appreciate consumer feed back as well, we listened to our customers opinions as well.
 
domore said:
Origin is on my "To Try" list now.
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Good, hopefully it'll be on your lets get it ASAP list. :)
 
GENOMYX said:
Yes Sir. I just didn't want to make to many updates until I know that material is in the warehouse. We decided to remove the Synepherine for a number of reasons one of them also being that it is not allowed into the U.K I really do not like having to make different versions for different consumers because we want everyone getting the same results so we decided that the formula could do without the Synepherine and instead we have slightly increased the Di caffeine malate.
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If someone wanted to add in their own Methyl-Synepherine to create the original formula what would be a good dose?
 
Un-freaking real pricing
 
dtrain13 said:
If someone wanted to add in their own Methyl-Synepherine to create the original formula what would be a good dose?
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Synephrine was in the original formula at 10mg, but the caffeine content was also lower. If you're opting for methyl synephrine, I'd start with 30mg and one scoop of Origin to see how you react, and increase accordingly.
 
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