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Next PES Insider Deal???

sareea said:
I don't know what to buy now ! What do you suggest guys ?
I currently have 2 full tubs of Select snicker/cookies , 1 Kaged BCAA, 1 Kaged Glutamine. 2 full Old Alphamine + 1 Shift :D 2 full tubs of Karbolyn.

I got 75$ of products limit for no taxes...
55 serving select + one of :
- Ergonine ? ( I somehow don't like the E9... but I dont know...I feel I only need protein and BCAAs, I had creatines previously but I tend to less like these additions even though they are great for bb, I want health more than BB).
- Amino IV ?
- Alphamine 2016?

Or to buy
Amino IV + E9 + Alphamine 2016 ?

Thanks for the help !
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If you want protein and not E9, maybe grab some AminoIV with it
 
SBIK said:
How come the Olive leaf was removed :( is this due to being included in Shift?
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Alphamine took a turn away from being a burner, and is now a powdered energy drink option.

Norco is the burner now and that write up is coming
 
Haha yes sir, thank you for having my back

My cart is still being switched around lol, hard to pick my quantities
 
It's on the way, but giving a false guess now isn't what you guys want.

I'll tease when it's definitely close
 
I'm sure sample packs will be ahead, I'll look into when that may be
 
Run579 said:
Will you all have samples of the new norco and alphamine? I did not see any when I put my order in.
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Yes, there will be samples. Should be available shortly.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Several? I think I counted 49.
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I already found out who it is. He's stupid. If you have more than one account, they link up and both accounts pop up. This is the second time I've caught an a**hole.
 
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Are you mad cuz your girlfriend cheated on you?
 
I'm one that are sad to see the old Alphamine go, just tried the us version and i really liked it but that's life, nothing last for ever.

Anyway i can understand PES as a company doing what they are doing.

1. They are switching out substances in their products that could be potential harmful and or some users does not interact well to (Yohimbine).
2. Having 3 fatburners in their product lines does not really make sense and could confuse buyers.
3. Better to have 1 product for US and EU.
4. Then they what us to buy more and stack. Now stacking Alphamine (energy), Norcodrene (fatburning) and Shift (recomping) is easier and with less interactions.

If you look at the label you see that they are made for stacking and they are more effective this way but also more costly = more profit for the Company.
But then again every other tread is about stacking product so they only made they natural choice, making their product more stackable since customers already are buy 2-3 product stacking them.

Also every was taking mostly about energy and taste not so much about it's fatburning capabilities.
And as a have read many only used it for energy and often being over 10% bodyfat = not really needing a fatburner.
As for energy and taste the new Alphamine would probably be as nice as the old one.

Myself used the EU version of Alphamine in the beginning of my cut being about 12% bodyfat most for energy before my cardio and keeping it going during they days of low carbs.
I just now tried the US version being around 7-8% bodyfat but now it's the fatburning effects I'm after, sure It's give a nice boost in energy but that's not the main reason I'm taking it.
Compares to the EU version I'm having a nice leaning effect around the chest and abs (sa2-a that's doing it's job maybe), for me with these fatburning effect it could as well taste like horse piss and give 0 energy (that i could get from a caffeine pill) i would still take it.
 
Im pretty upset that they changed Alphamine as well, but looking forward to seeing how Norco has changed and still a fan of PES in general. This backlash seems a little extreme to say the least. When you look at the track record of the company and its reps some are being a tad unfair.

Let your dollars do the talking, that's all that will influence a companies actions. Throwing tantrums and insults just make you look like a little bitch.
 
Myrmidon said:
Im pretty upset that they changed Alphamine as well, but looking forward to seeing how Norco has changed and still a fan of PES in general. This backlash seems a little extreme to say the least. When you look at the track record of the company and its reps some are being a tad unfair.

Let your dollars do the talking, that's all that will influence a companies actions. Throwing tantrums and insults just make you look like a little bitch.
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Norcodrene has always been the more effective fat burner for me so I'm also curious to see what our R&D group has drawn up. Alphamine will remain my go to for high energy intense workout boosts.

Thank you for the support brother it is appreciated. I'm sure everyone will be happy with what will come in the future from PES. :)
 
So after hearing more from up top, I'd like to excite people a touch by saying that this has less tolerance build than the OG

So, the energy in this should keep kicking daily, making it an even better Energy Drink option.

The HICA made sense for muscle preservation in a burner, but has no home in an energy drink, not a good enough fit to make customers pay more for this.

If muscle growth or maintenance is the goal we hope the more ideal product Ergonine is being used, which has your HICA.

Leucine was used here because it has additive effects. It appears that HICA does not past the dose we include in Ergonine.


I'm happy to take any questions by PM as well as anywhere here, if you have more to ask of us.
But let's not repeat ourselves to death here anymore haha.

Thanks for your time guys
 
Driven2lift said:
So after hearing more from up top, I'd like to excite people a touch by saying that this has less tolerance build than the OG

So, the energy in this should keep kicking daily, making it an even better Energy Drink option.
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Curious as to what about the formula makes less tolerance buildup possible.

Also, can you confirm which flavors in the new lineup won't have artificial colors? (I assume they all have some combo of sucralose and ace-k, but at least several of the og flavors were provided with no artificial coloring.)

And lastly, can you tell us how much theanine per scoop? I have experimented with the caffeine/theanine combo in the past, and have learned that I respond differently depending on the relative proportions of the two. Too much theanine makes me drowsy, even with a caffeine bomb.
 
biggest change was yohimbe removal I would think, could always tell when you felt it less.
Then inevitably worked up ti 2+ scoops chasing that feeling again lol

I will look into the colourings used and get in touch here.

I can't detail ingredients in a blend, Sorry
 
I'm not sure how I feel about this.


Truthfully, I've never used a fat burner outside of alphamine and never as anything other than a preworkout. The extra fat burning benefits were nice, but I don't really cut so it didn't really matter.


My wife always loved it as a pre, and may like it even more now.


Didn't buy any on the insider, but I don't really use much in the way of supplements anymore and don't want to buy more until I use through what I already have....



Either way, I'm just going to hold out for some feedback and decide if this is a good deal for her when the time comes for more preworkout.



I don't really get all the hate, but I do understand that people dislike change and alphamine (OG) had more than a few loyal followers lol.
 
warpyfunch said:
Curious as to what about the formula makes less tolerance buildup possible.

Also, can you confirm which flavors in the new lineup won't have artificial colors? (I assume they all have some combo of sucralose and ace-k, but at least several of the og flavors were provided with no artificial coloring.)

And lastly, can you tell us how much theanine per scoop? I have experimented with the caffeine/theanine combo in the past, and have learned that I respond differently depending on the relative proportions of the two. Too much theanine makes me drowsy, even with a caffeine bomb.
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Strawberry Pina Coolada: Citric Acid, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Sucralose, Acefulsame Potassium, Beet Root Concentrate

Cotton Candy: Citric Acid, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Sucralose, Acefulsame Potassium, Beet Root Concentrate

Raspberry Lemonade: Citric Acid, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Sucralose, Acefulsame Potassium, Beet Root Concentrate

Iced Tea: Citric Acid, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Sucralose, Acefulsame Potassium

Sunrise: Citric Acid, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Sucralose, Acefulsame Potassium, FD&C Yellow #6

Appletini: Citric Acid, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Sucralose, Acefulsame Potassium, FD&C Yellow 5, FD&C Blue 1

Can't disclose theanine content
 
Can't wait for feedback. I didn't grab any, but hopefully samples will be available. I do drink Redbull from time to time, this could replace that, however I do prefer RTD.
 
You'd never find an RTD at this price point ;)

Insider is still up, get any lingering orders in
 
mechka_grizli said:
Quick question here. Might be a little out of place. But is Josh still around? Like nattydisaster Josh? Or does Synapsin now own PES?
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nattydisaster aka Josh, is the owner of PEScience.

Doesn't post much/if at all anymore though.
 
Dirty Dan said:
Whatever happened to bpjohn123?

Hope he's alright.
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I believe he wasn't able to be on the forums near as much with his career and stop repping a good while ago.
 
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