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This section has been created for advanced supplement discussion with Patrick Arnold. If you have a specific question for Pat, please post it in here or just want to discuss and advanced topic. Please keep this to general supplement talk. If you have a question regarding E-Pharm products, please post that in the E-Pharm forum.
 
Bout time he was back for this!!!!
 
jbryand101b said:
so we can discuss advanced supplement info, but only about supplements that aren't from epharm/prototype eh? that doesn't make sense.
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If you have a specific question about his supplements, it goes in his company section. Its not a difficult concept.

Asking if hes making a supp again isnt advanced discussion....
 
This thread is crap. Nobody has asked Pat about using tribulus in PCT.
 
6-OXO w/ EPISTANE

Pat,

How well would 6-OXO interact with Epistane, since they primarily seem to work via aromatase synthesis? Would they compete for aromataze and AR receptors, or would they work synergetically?
 
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mrmello said:
Pat,

How well would 6-OXO interact with Epistane, since they primarily seem to work via aromatase synthesis? Would they compete for aromataze and AR receptors, or would they work synergetically?
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i know of no evidence that suggests epistane blocks aromatase. someone made that up one day and unfortunately it stuck

6-oxo and its metabolites are not known to interact significantly with androgen receptors either
 
Wow, that was a fast response thanks and you are right... guess I fell for the marketing..I did some searching and found this: ''surely this is where people trip up and assume u can run epi as an ai, yes it is based on a drug used in japan to treat breast cancer, however, adding the methyl group changed the action of the drug, people need to look past this and realise its just a marketing scheme used to sell it...'' by ''Dan Mundy'' on Muscle-Mind.uk...

Your thoughts on iron mag Labs? They claim to be the only ones with '' real pharmaceutical grade 6-oxo '' now days....
 
mrmello said:
Wow, that was a fast response thanks and you are right... guess I fell for the marketing..I did some searching and found this: ''surely this is where people trip up and assume u can run epi as an ai, yes it is based on a drug used in japan to treat breast cancer, however, adding the methyl group changed the action of the drug, people need to look past this and realise its just a marketing scheme used to sell it...'' by ''Dan Mundy'' on Muscle-Mind.uk...

Your thoughts on iron mag Labs? They claim to be the only ones with '' real pharmaceutical grade 6-oxo '' now days....
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i have never tested their 6-oxo so i cant comment either way
 
Pct

Patrick Arnold said:
i know of no evidence that suggests epistane blocks aromatase. someone made that up one day and unfortunately it stuck

6-oxo and its metabolites are not known to interact significantly with androgen receptors either
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I've read so much in regards to favourable PCT's to turn around and read exact opposite, to the point my head is spinning! Having said that what Direction can you send me regarding pct that works well with a mild methylated compounds that have low androgenic effects and dont aromatics?

Not sure what is favourable in the pct market despite great yet mixed reviews.
 
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