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jin said:
yeah, maybe...
but he looks so damn good.

no homo,
but.
what a handsome man!
:surprised:
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J2x?
Handsome? Obviously.
Intelligent? Undeniably.
Hung like a black rhino? Most certainly.
But maybe that's why I hate him-- he's too damn perfect.
:dance:
 
HereToStudy said:
I can't stand the guy. Hes always stealing my women.
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But in his defense, J2x is always willing to give them back, after a night or two. So he's not really stealing the women, just kinda borrowing them... (Like Lindsay Lohan at a jewelery store.)
 
160$, Dang. I will buy it if it is actually like injecting 400mg or something of test enth. This is the biggest claim i have seen yet..
 
jin said:
how about this study boy?

live up to your name.
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Very well thought out response.

Also for the note, since I have received PMs to this belief, I don't have any ownership stake in primordial performance, I am just a rep. So no, Jin boy I won't be retiring early even after these are proven very successful.
 
HereToStudy said:
Very well thought out response.

Also for the note, since I have received PMs to this belief, I don't have any ownership stake in primordial performance, I am just a rep. So no, Jin boy I won't be retiring early even after these are proven very successful.
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actually, i did think about it.
i thought about it,
retracted the condition of the prior suggestion that you seemed to find most offensive,
and let this go.

but no.
so ok,
here is your response.

you are arrogant.
in a bad way.
at a bad time.

of course, i cannot link to where you said that super would kill you.
i said that.
i said that to make a point
the point that you are trying to dodge
- anything can hurt you when you misuse it,
even water,
and
(here is where it must hurt)

even your precious andromass.


frankly, you are the one pushing the
'superdrol is dangerous' angle.
and you know it.
it is part of your pitch.
maybe you think that you are doing your job.
i don't care.
this is not new information, man.

and even at that, it is flawed.
superdrol CAN BE dangerous, if used improperly.

but so can everything else.
that is why
i brought up water.

like it or not,
you are hackin away at boards that aren't so often frequented by
whatever demographic you figure is gonna be dropping 250bux for an hour on the phone with mr. oregon.

you are on a board with lots of people from all walks of life,
in a world of supplements that cost an arm and don't deliver.

with superdrol, we know what we are getting.
same with water...
don't drink 6 liters in 15 minutes if you want to stay healthy.
what are you missing here?

i seriously hope that your ship comes in with this andro series thing.

but i can tell you one thing, for sure.
i will never touch another pp product so long as i live.
never.

get a bad taste in my mouth just thinking about it.

good riddance.
 
Am I the only that has noticed that most of the people really trying to stir up some sort of battle are those with low post counts, new members, or former/current reps for other companies?
 
am i the only one who notices that only pp reps or former pp reps or people with lil knowledge support andro series


:friday:
 
GQNemesis said:
am i the only one who notices that only pp reps or former pp reps or people with lil knowledge support andro series


:friday:
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LOL easy to say when you work for a company where your most cutting edge products are tribulus, creatine mono, and zma. I could get swole off of those.
 
BigNasty said:
LOL easy to say when you work for a company where your most cutting edge products are tribulus, creatine mono, and zma. I could get swole off of those.
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true stay injectible free and get swole :friday:

glad sum1 LOL'd that was my whole point
 
BigNasty said:
LOL easy to say when you work for a company where your most cutting edge products are tribulus, creatine mono, and zma. I could get swole off of those.
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agmatine.
inhibit e.

stuff that works.

guess when you rep for a company like that,
saying most anything is easier.
 
HereToStudy said:
Wait, so I am unclassy for being a fan of a TV show? WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME.
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then i suppose you understand the
mode of reasoning employed
in every episode of that show, hts?
hint:
it begins with an a...
but is often referred to in terms of a phrase,
5 words, beginning with
i,t,t,b,e
(although they are subtly different)
 
jin said:
stuff that works.
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My point was, if you work for a company that hasn't innovated a single thing, don't insult the ones who are.

Case and point:

Anyone could run a company like SNS, buy bulk supplements from a wholesaler, put them in your own "super awesome flashy cool bro package", push it on people and explain how your creatine and tribulus is better than someone like Swansons.
 
Lightweight1 said:
Well this thread has become a Wednesday bingo night at the senior citizen home with multiple bingos.
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you know what, this is right.

i am gonna cave.

look, pp has some killer sh!t here, sure.

everyone really knows it.
they wouldn't be pushing it if it didn't work.

i will stick by my cadillac analogy.
but maybe bmw is better, i dunno, beside the point.

for those who want a caddy,
this is for them.
and it will work like it is supposed to,
i am sure.

ok.
now, i am done.
good luck pp.
good luck hts.

and good luck to everyone who runs this stuff.

i am sure it is and will be the best for a long while.

peace and out.
:bandit:
 
BigNasty said:
My point was, if you work for a company that hasn't innovated a single thing, don't insult the ones who are.

Case and point:

Anyone could run a company like SNS, buy bulk supplements from a wholesaler, put them in your own "super awesome flashy cool bro package", push it on people and explain how your creatine and tribulus is better than someone like Swansons.
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except for this...
i have never been swarmed by a posse of sns reps pushin
anything.
ever.
let alone transdermal tribulus replacement stacks
...
now,
seriously,
out.:sick:
 
BigNasty said:
My point was, if you work for a company that hasn't innovated a single thing, don't insult the ones who are.

Case and point:

Anyone could run a company like SNS, buy bulk supplements from a wholesaler, put them in your own "super awesome flashy cool bro package", push it on people and explain how your creatine and tribulus is better than someone like Swansons.
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We usta make phs, jus sayin
 
To bring this silly thread full circle, I just received my latest "box o' goodies" from NutraPlanet: several bottles of SNS Inhibit-E, which contains one of my favorite products--ATD--which I need to combat the gyno I get every time I use one of my other favorite products--Superdrol.
The moral is, there's room in the vast world of sports supplements for many many various companies/supplements/approaches. Can't we all just get along??? [J2x sheds a tear. On the INSIDE, where it hurts the most.]
 
ImJ2x said:
To bring this silly thread full circle, I just received my latest "box o' goodies" from NutraPlanet: several bottles of SNS Inhibit-E, which contains one of my favorite products--ATD--which I need to combat the gyno I get every time I use one of my other favorite products--Superdrol.
The moral is, there's room in the vast world of sports supplements for many many various companies/supplements/approaches. Can't we all just get along??? [J2x sheds a tear. On the INSIDE, where it hurts the most.]
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No real hate, me and jin worked things out right in PM. And like I said, I have a bottle of SD as well, never stated it was unusable.
 
HereToStudy said:
No real hate, me and jin worked things out right in PM. And like I said, I have a bottle of SD as well, never stated it was unusable.
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If you ever use that SD, be prepared to deal with that infamous "delayed gyno." It's real-- gets me every time, like a month or two AFTER PCT. Makes me consider trying other mass-builders, such as, oh I don't know, maybe... Primordial Performance AndroMass!!!
 
Wow, what the hell, the animosity is ridiculous. The studies do not state the abuse and or medical history of the persons involved, however that does not mean either way if they were abused or not. Bottom line SD is toxic does cause any number of bad sides, and it's been known for years. There is a member on this board who several years ago got jaundice using it at average levels. Does this happen to everyone, certainly not. Yes we are saying our AndroSeries is safer because it is, you do realize that the majority of people using these products are outside of the knowledge on these boards right? We are not saying you can't use methyls or whatever the hell else you want, we are saying we have a safer alternative.
 
ImJ2x said:
If you ever use that SD, be prepared to deal with that infamous "delayed gyno." It's real-- gets me every time, like a month or two AFTER PCT. Makes me consider trying other mass-builders, such as, oh I don't know, maybe... Primordial Performance AndroMass!!!
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the problem there MIGHT be the atd.
i have seen where many others complain of similar problems, and atd during pct seems a constant.
squashes estro too much, causing the rebound.
unrealmachine mentions this in his thread...
honestly, however,
you likely know much better than i.
and if i am wrong, well,
i am wrong for all the right reasons...


I think Jin and HTS hammered out a peace treaty. Let's help it work, lol.
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yeah, frankly, though i have never met the man, i think he is alright.
maybe arrogant, but hell, the best of us are at times...

i will add one thing, hopefully constructive...

i, for one, was excited by all the hype around the andro-whatnots.
and
i was equally disappointed when i saw the entry cost.

clearly,
if this IS a safer alternative,
it is not gonna save the people who need saving the most.
that being the relatively uninformed people
with fewer options,
these being those who end up in trouble if anyone does.

in the end,
i wish that pp would have given a heads up on the pricing...
you know,
like when one of the reps was chiming on about how
'this andro release is gonna make other ph's look like fisher price'
(or something to that effect)
i wish that he would have added
'but, it is gonna COST you, ALOT, to run an effective cycle...'

now, there were some clues.
the reps did mention the new
INSTALLMENT PAYMENT PLAN!

now, that said,
this is what had me in a bad way about this thing.
still does, actually,
though i have nothing against anyone here personally
and even consider all here my friends.

maybe some more than others,
but all of us have had it out with a buddy over something stoopid at some point or other...
no difference here, i figure.

finally,
and i MEAN THIS,
i hope that the androseries DOES live up to pp's promises.
i hope that, when the dust settles, i end up with the egg on my face.
not hts.
not pp.
really.
i want to be wrong here.
and, if i am, then i may cave a bit further
and actually forgo buying that used bike to rebuild
instead getting into a couple cycles of andromass...
 
What a thread. Ill say this, ive got a few bottles of Superdrone myself and looking at the alternative, well, it just makes sense. If I do choose to run my SD, it'll only be for 2 weeks in the begining of a cycle.

Oh and Jin, that was me who said this will make other ph's look fisher price. Compared to Dermacrine and some others this is true, when compared to methyls, it makes them look like lead contaminated toys manufactured in China.
 
ImJ2x said:
I'm one of the "older guys" heretostudy was referring to. I'm fortunate enough to have some disposable income to spend on supps, so I am considering the Androseries. [I actually had my PP shopping cart loaded with 3 andromass and 3 androhard, expecting to get the 30% discount for 6 bottles, but it turns out that only applies to 6 bottles of the same product. So I'm weighing my options.]
Having run many SD cycles, I love the stuff. I ONLY run short pulse (2 or 3 days/week), long duration (15-20 weeks) cycles. SD works perfect for this. Liver and lipid values always take a minor hit, but always recover quickly. My biggest problem with Super is the delayed gyno. I get it every time (a month or two after PCT), and I remove it everytime with simple ATD.
My interest in the Androseries is for more of a self-administered HRT type usage. But that's where it gets confusing. Andromass would seem to be the ideal product, as it supposedly converts to test at a high rate. But they seem to recommend Androhard (which converts to DHT) for this usage. That's why I was hoping to buy 3 of each and stack them. But since I can't get the 30% discount like that, I'm trying to figure out which way to go. Any suggestions?
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Sell your house and live in a van outside of Venice Beach Gold's gym!
 
jtfisher said:
There are a lot of factors that play into why those cases developed. Nobody doubts the potential toxicity if misused. There are tons of people who use it and take all precautions and have no adverse effects.
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By no adverse side effects you probably mean that they "feel" fine. Ha Ha excuses excuses. Hmmm....If it smells like draino and tastes like draino....Guess what?. Its DRAINO!
 
Hey Jin--
Just so you know, I don't use ATD in PCT. The only time I use it is solo, to fight the inevitable "delayed" gyno from SD.
But I think you may be on the right track regarding the cause of the gyno. I believe, however, that it's the SD itself that flattens estro so completely that you get a rebound effect well after PCT. Who knows???
 
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