@brundel you'll be offering the stim solo at first or in the stim blend you mention in the op?
We will not offer it solo for the time being.@brundel you'll be offering the stim solo at first or in the stim blend you mention in the op?
Ive been tinkering with it alot.
There is a very fine line for me between really good and way too much.
Presently Ive been taking 50mg with 150mg caff in the morning and its just on the cusp of overdoing it for me.
Productive, clear, focused.
But the great thing is its really got some legs. I always take a bit more caffeine at about 3pm but the stim is still working so I get the same effect from the caff as I would from the caff+ stim because its still working from the morning!
If I administered twice a day I would for sure not sleep all night.
This will be good for you I think. Even a modest dose so your not cranked up but are awake.
Rocket-Do you enjoy your work ?
X 2I will buy a beta form of the fat burner and report back................. ?????????????????????????????
Sounds interesting, thank you for your response.Rocket-
It's very interesting work for sure and the pay is great but after 23 years offshore, I just don't enjoy it nearly as much anymore. Politics, regulations, snowflakes, etc.... It's not like it used to be at all. I'm a Subsea Engineer who takes care of big subsea Blowout Preventers and well control equipment on deep water drillships and Semi-submersibles. We work 28 days on and 28 off so I get 6 months "vacation" a years but we also work 90+ hour work weeks while on the rig. Lots of advantages and disadvantages depending on how you look at it. If you've ever seen the movie Deepwater Horizon then it's basically my job to ensure nothing like that happens on my rig.
Can’t wait, brother. Keeping my eyes peeled!You are in for something special.
The pre workout formula is solid.
By the way....none of these products are powder or pill.....
They are all either a fluid dropper or in a gel shot pack. So you can take a dose or 2 on the go or in the gym bag for the day or for work etc.
Interesting, is there generally more cost associated by going the powder/encapsulation route?You are in for something special.
The pre workout formula is solid.
By the way....none of these products are powder or pill.....
They are all either a fluid dropper or in a gel shot pack. So you can take a dose or 2 on the go or in the gym bag for the day or for work etc.
No, less actually. Because each dose has to be separately packaged the single pack/ box route is more expensive by a good deal.Interesting, is there generally more cost associated by going the powder/encapsulation route?
Very exciting times !We will not offer it solo for the time being.
Pre
Fat burner
Stim blend
Product formulations are ready.@brundel these still on track for around a February-ish release? Soooooner?
Only some people really get itThat clip got me good
You can say that again. I need some blinders on when going back for seconds on christmas!Good time for an appetite suppressant
Looks like there may be some other stuff coming as well.
Gonna be interesting
99.999999999% of all raws come from china. This goes for the entirety of the supplement industry.where will the raws/ingredients for these new products be sourced from?
Any February updates? Excited to see what is coming.Product formulations are ready.
Website under dev.
Branding being done.
Just looking for the right company to run production for us because we need softgels and gel sachets.
The goal is Feb.
Ive been taking the products though and they are exceptional. The fat burner is insanely good and the pre is unlike any other I have used. Different stims perform differently of course.
Caffeine is great but because its an adenosine antagonist its got a nasty crash= tired.
Other stims like lets say DMHA or AMP is ok but it just doesnt seem to have the punch we want.
And things like dynamine and teacrine are just a disappointment.
This is sort of like....A mix between an amphetamine and modafinil. Absolutely 0 crash. Ever. Not just saying this, the stuff has real legs. And finally everyone always talks about focus with stims but most stims only give some focus at low doses then become jittery and distracting. This one gives you a clear mind. UNless you take alot of course and then you are taking apart your TV and rebuilding old microwaves.
Yes, things ARE taking longer than expected but there is good reason and itll well worth it.Any February updates? Excited to see what is coming.
Thanks manVery neat update; wishing you guys success on these new endeavors! Love to see new ingredients coming out.
You are absolutely right there. This is why we have decided to take a new approach to things. Over the last 15 or so years in the industry Ive learned alot of lessons. The old me would just be super excited about the research and testing and just getting it out to you guys asap. Then enjoying everyone liking the product. Never has been and really still isnt about money. I just like doing this. But.......this has cost me alot in terms of financial gains and lost opportunities. And as I am getting older security for myself and my family becomes more important.Careful now, you know how much the FDA hates anything that works.
Sounds like a plan, see you in Aruba !You are absolutely right there. This is why we have decided to take a new approach to things. Over the last 15 or so years in the industry Ive learned alot of lessons. The old me would just be super excited about the research and testing and just getting it out to you guys asap. Then enjoying everyone liking the product. Never has been and really still isnt about money. I just like doing this. But.......this has cost me alot in terms of financial gains and lost opportunities. And as I am getting older security for myself and my family becomes more important.
So instead of just pushing the new stim out as quickly as possible it looks more like this.
Grow the actual plant.
Have it verified by a professional botany professor.
Have multiple samples sent out for testing by different labs to make 100% certain our target chem is present. Genetic samples are saved in multiple locations.
Chemical synthesis and chemical extraction is perfected.
Patents are filed.
Trademarks are filed.
Products are designed.
Partnerships are developed for distribution, funding, production, marketing and advertising. All ahead of launch so...instead of selling 2000 on launch we well 200000.
Why is this relevant to your post?
Because 1. I know our stuff is really legit, natural and legal. We dont have to hide behind bullshit label lies, false origin claims and nonsense while waiting for the man to come knocking.
2. Even if they decide to whack it like ephedrine we will have made enough money to not really care.
Then I can sit back, living wherever the F I want and do what I love. Find new awesome stuff for supplements.
Also...and this is the best one......none of the companies out there who like to capitalize on my hard work have even the slightest chance of being able to do so without being sued into oblivion.
I’m very excitedSounds like a plan, see you in Aruba !
Awesome .Gonna get some samples going here shortly.
will there be a non stim version of the pre?Yes, things ARE taking longer than expected but there is good reason and itll well worth it.
I dont want to spill too much but some things have changed. The stimulant we were utilizing is a fluid and was causing some issues as we cant make powders or pills. But, as we are always working on new things we have recently discovered and filed patent for another stim. This one is at least 300% of the strength of the first and has a different overall MOA. More along the lines of a mix between ephedrine and clen. Low dose. Strong with really exceptional fat burning properties.
Its also a solid so we can use it in powders and caps etc. This eliminates the need for gel sachets and softgels etc.
We have a sample batch in the works. Once we test and establish the safe range of administration we will go straight to production.
The first stim is becoming a new energy drink. We are pitching to investors now and expect to be ready around summer.
So 2022 we will have-
A new energy drink company. The drink is really solid I drink it once a week or so. Its too much for me on a daily basis.
Flavor is great and the energy is MUCH better than any other energy drink.
And
A new sports nutrition brand NEOTEK that will launch with a pre workout and fat burner. Possibly a new anabolic.
Aiming for 3-4 months because the initial test batch will take about 10 weeks.
So its taking a while longer than expected but we are on track.
Gonna be a bit 2022
For now no. We have Han swolo from blr thats chock full of vasodilators. Relatively cheap.Will there be a non stim version of the pre?
will there be a non stim version of the pre?
Energy Drink......For now no. We have Han swolo from blr thats chock full of vasodilators. Relatively cheap.
Neotek will be built on these new stims.
Should only be maybe 30 days before we have the new stim for testing so long as the custom synthesis is successful. Once we test it briefly and it works like we think it will then we will be ready to roll out new products.
Stim #1 is a fluid. Has been problematic to use as we can't make powders so its becoming a new energy drink. Different brand.
Should both be launched before summer
Han Swolo is amazing..For now no. We have Han swolo from blr thats chock full of vasodilators. Relatively cheap.
Neotek will be built on these new stims.
Should only be maybe 30 days before we have the new stim for testing so long as the custom synthesis is successful. Once we test it briefly and it works like we think it will then we will be ready to roll out new products.
Stim #1 is a fluid. Has been problematic to use as we can't make powders so its becoming a new energy drink. Different brand.
Should both be launched before summer
Yah this is basically how I do things. These days pre workout products have too much stimulant in them. Formulators don't seem to care if it works well they just care if you buy it. And people love getting cracked out on stims but this is **** for performance and pump.Han Swolo is amazing..
Ive been taking it with glycersize, betaine, Peak02, salidrosides and cognizin and honestly it’s the best preworkout Ive used..hands down. I can’t tolerate much stimulants anymore due to my dissociative disorder history but when I feel really well I throw in about 150mg of caffeine and 200mg l theanine which works really well with the rest.
The energy drink contains an -amineThis sounds awesome! I've been waiting to try a non-caffeine non-yohimbine stim. Miss the old ephed- and -amine's.