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My Epic Recomp Adventure with a CEL Double Tap!

GeekPoop said:
Id sub out the dec db bp for an incline db bp

Id also swap out the cable crossovers for a dip or something similar. They feel good but dont do to much.
Also whats you rep range on everything? 6< strength generally speaking

just my .02 lol
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I would but unfortunately I can't do any incline exercises except the on the Hammer Strength because of a previous shoulder injury. The HM are the only ones that don't aggravate it. I do dips on my arms day but am open to other alternatives.

My rep ranges for upper body are 6-8, and for lower body I do ~10. My lower body is higher for a number of reasons. One is because I don't want my legs to get much bigger. I'm already having problems finding jeans that my thighs can fit into. Our legs are also under constant load throughout every day (i.e. supporting our body weight). Thus, the muscle fibers are a little different and work well with higher rep ranges.

celc5 said:
...BigT, when you figure out what GTL stands for, you can join the Jersey Shore Fanclub too :study:
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Gym-Tan-Laundry!? :D
 
A little late but I'll sub along. How do you like the maximize? Also, a big boy like you needs a 1k, I used to have a 600rr that I could smoke 1k's on though.
 
CT3 said:
A little late but I'll sub along. How do you like the maximize? Also, a big boy like you needs a 1k, I used to have a 600rr that I could smoke 1k's on though.
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Still in the first week bro...not late at all! I almost got a litre bike but decided to go with the superior handling and then do some basic upgrades, power commander, full yoshimura exhaust, ect. I'm used to cruisers so I figured I could ease my way in with the R6.

As far as Maximize is concerned...I'm biased so don't listen to me! :D I'm a iForce rep (on other forums obviously) so I have alot of their stuff at my disposal. That being said, I always try to provide honest feedback. I even had all company reps abandon one of my SPONSORED logs because I was negative about the product...in a professional way of course. In all seriousness, I really do like Maximize. I like it best mixed with SP250 or with Vasocharge, my other favorite preworkout supps.
 
GTA61 said:
Oi!

Sub'd

So your P-Mag is kickin arse, you liking things so far brah?
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Definitely liking it so far. Yesterday was weird though. It felt like I couldn't get full. I ate and was still hungry but I tried not to eat to much cause I'm trying to recomp. That was the first time though so we'll see what happens today.
 
You better buy a tub of oatmeal for some filler lulz

When I ran the PMag I was always hungry as hell, stomach would rumble for food.

THNX Brah
 
GTA61 said:
You better buy a tub of oatmeal for some filler lulz

When I ran the PMag I was always hungry as hell, stomach would rumble for food.

THNX Brah
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ah, glad to here it's not just a fluke. I'm gonna have to do something about appatite control if it keeps up. Last night I got tired of eating and still being hungry so I just took some BCAA's and dealt with it.
 
when i ran hdrol i had to have a backpak with food in it everywhere i went, seemed like i wuz always eating, gained 16 lbs of lean mass and kept 14 after pct. loved it, cant wait to see what the pmag does.
 
lyfespan said:
when i ran hdrol i had to have a backpak with food in it everywhere i went, seemed like i wuz always eating, gained 16 lbs of lean mass and kept 14 after pct. loved it, cant wait to see what the pmag does.
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damn, that is impressive from a solo run of hdrol. what did you dose it at?
 
lyfespan said:
50/75/75/100/100/150
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that explains it, lol. hdrol is referred to as more of a recomp or cutter ph. whereas p-mag is billed as more of a bulker, just goes to show you how important diet is. you must really have ate a ton, lol. i believe you when you say you carried a backpack of food with you!
 
yeah, ima excited to see what the pmag hold in store for me, will probably need a wagon and cooler, for food
 
Lyfespan,
you are gonna love the low sides and easy recovery too. Pmag is very productive and "friendly" too. Btw, I LOVE the backpack of food. Mass gains come from prep while shopping and planning in the kitchen.

Geek,
I totally see where you're going with the rep ranges. If we're working in the 8-12 rep range, we take advantage of the compound's mass gain potential. But if we're maxing out on cycle, we miss out on the hypertrophy aspect of the cycle AND when we're off, the pr no longer counts IMO... that's just my personal POV and others may disagree.
 
celc5 said:
Lyfespan,
you are gonna love the low sides and easy recovery too. Pmag is very productive and "friendly" too. Btw, I LOVE the backpack of food. Mass gains come from prep while shopping and planning in the kitchen.

Geek,
I totally see where you're going with the rep ranges. If we're working in the 8-12 rep range, we take advantage of the compound's mass gain potential. But if we're maxing out on cycle, we miss out on the hypertrophy aspect of the cycle AND when we're off, the pr no longer counts IMO... that's just my personal POV and others may disagree.
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yeah, i even traded most of my hdrol stash for more pmags lol, as im a ectomorph
 
lyfespan said:
when i ran hdrol i had to have a backpak with food in it everywhere i went, seemed like i wuz always eating, gained 16 lbs of lean mass and kept 14 after pct. loved it, cant wait to see what the pmag does.
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I felt like that on bold...always hungry and like you, I had to plan ahead and keep food with me.
 
dam!!! hahah i think i'm going to have to do another stock pile of P-mag!!!! hmmmm very very interesting. . .
 
Week 1 Review


Starting weight: 210
Current weight: 210
Change +/- : 0​


I have felt stronger in the gym and have had very good workouts. I haven't noticed any physical changes yet, but that'll come. So far I am please with this cycle. Today is the begining of week 2 and the start of P-Stanz as well. I'm heading out to hit the gym now and will update later.
 
you're definitely going to want to run the clomid in your PCT man, OTC PCT will not be enough for a cycle this long/tough. but subb'd and in it to win it!
 
neverstop said:
you're definitely going to want to run the clomid in your PCT man, OTC PCT will not be enough for a cycle this long/tough. but subb'd and in it to win it!
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OTC pct was plenty for a 6 weeker of pmag for me... unless the pstanz is way more harsh than I suspect, I still think otc will be adequate for a smooth easy recovery.
 
GeekPoop said:
digging this log, very detailed
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appreciate it brotha!

neverstop said:
you're definitely going to want to run the clomid in your PCT man, OTC PCT will not be enough for a cycle this long/tough. but subb'd and in it to win it!
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I've used both OTC and SERM's so I'm comfortable with how my body recovers. If the OTC starts to seem like it won't cut it, then I will change it up...but I think I'll be alright!

celc5 said:
OTC pct was plenty for a 6 weeker of pmag for me... unless the pstanz is way more harsh than I suspect, I still think otc will be adequate for a smooth easy recovery.
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I expect it will be but am prepared in case it isn't!
 
Week 2 Day 1 (DAY 8 total)


Starting Blood Pressure: 105/62
Today's Blood Pressure: 110/62 -Slightly up but still in the good range.


P-Mag at 75mg
Dosed 1 am, 1 pre-workout, and 1 pm just before bed with casein shake

P-Stanz at 250mg
Dosed 2 am, 1 pre-workout, and 2 pm just before bed with casein shake​



Pre-Workout
Maximize

Intra workout
I had a scoop of AEN IntrAbolic with a scoop of Gaspari SizeOn


Post-Workout
CL Golden Gains and Golden Finish combo...I much prefer the Relentless but I need to finish these off before I open another tub of Relentless.


The Workout

Here's what I did today and in this exact order:


Bench Press:
8x135
6x165
6x185
6x195
4x205


Squats:
10x135
10x155
10x185
10x205
10x240 ---> Was able to do all 5 full sets with no problems...besides the heavy weight! :D


SLDL:
10x135
10x155
10x185
10x225
6x315 ---> Threw up an addition 15lbs. They felt pretty good!


Decline Dumbbell Bench:
8x170 (85lbs DB)
0x190 (95lbs DB) ---> WTF! :mad: I couldn't get these up even though I did two sets with it last week! Not happy with this...


Incline Press on Hammer Strength:
8x150
6x170
8x190
5x150 Drop Set

I was able to do more reps at the same weight on these ones...but I'm not sure if that's only because I didn't do the extra sets of decline.


Cable Crossovers:
8x70 (35lbs each side)
6x90 (45lbs each side)


Push-ups:
decline x30 ----> shoulder did not like these when I was done



Cardio
After my workout, I took my intra and then swam 20 laps.



NOTES:
My workout was good but frustrating too. My bench hasn't budged but my SLDL have gone up. My declines sucked today but my inclines were better then usual. I wanted to do something else for my chest so I threw in those push-ups at the end. I'm going to have to find something else because I feel that I'm still just not hitting it hard enough...maybe single arm cable presses? Thoughts?

We have only one power rack in our gym and sometimes people just irritate me with things they do. Last week it was some dude doing curls in the power rack. Today it was a couple guys who brought a incline bench over and and did shoulder press...only using the power rack to hold the barbell in between sets. :mad: Then they go do something else and leave the place a mess (bench, strew weights, ect). /rant! :o

BTW, I will get some some videos up during my next workout on Wednesday. If anybody could please help me figure out how to embed them here, that would be great!


SIDES:
Noticed some atrophy begining. Was kinda tired in the gym today...we'll see if it persists or if it was just today. Nothing else to note which makes me pleased.
 
i get why you start light on squats, but i think youd get better results if you held it to two warm up sets, and after that go balls to the walls with your 240, or if u would still like to move up through the weight, dont be scared to do more than 10 reps, especially if youre looking for a recomp, nice log so far my brotha, i have cycled h-drol with very decent gains, hope you reach your goals!
 
whoismikeford said:
i get why you start light on squats, but i think youd get better results if you held it to two warm up sets, and after that go balls to the walls with your 240, or if u would still like to move up through the weight, dont be scared to do more than 10 reps, especially if youre looking for a recomp, nice log so far my brotha, i have cycled h-drol with very decent gains, hope you reach your goals!
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I just might try that next week! ;)
 
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Have you experienced a huge increase in libido from pmag? It had that effect on me and I noticed you haven't mentioned that aspect. It also made me very hungry so youre not alone there.
 
Mikey851 said:
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Have you experienced a huge increase in libido from pmag? It had that effect on me and I noticed you haven't mentioned that aspect. It also made me very hungry so youre not alone there.
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My libido has been good...nothing extraordinary though. I wouldn't mind too much if that kicks in though! Good to hear about the hunger. I'm trying to keep the cals in check to minimize any possible fat gains.
 
Can't believe i missed this, subbing in for the ride :)
Great feedback so far :thumbsup:

//CC
 
kingjameskjf said:
My libido has been good...nothing extraordinary though. I wouldn't mind too much if that kicks in though! Good to hear about the hunger. I'm trying to keep the cals in check to minimize any possible fat gains.
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great idea!!! although with some fat comes more strength and power gains as well!!! its okie to have some fat stored away!!! it comes with the territory of bulkin ya dig!!!! :dump:
 
ConcreteConny said:
Can't believe i missed this, subbing in for the ride :)
Great feedback so far :thumbsup:

//CC
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Good stuff!

Aaelael said:
great idea!!! although with some fat comes more strength and power gains as well!!! its okie to have some fat stored away!!! it comes with the territory of bulkin ya dig!!!! :dump:
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true, but I'm focusing more on the recomp aspect rather then the bulking. Today I'm going to do some more boxing for my cardio.
 
i like that you are open minded to try different routines- i am pretty much set in my ways and do things much the same. i change things up but basically stick to same pattern. this old dog has a hard time learning new tricks.
 
thebigt said:
i like that you are open minded to try different routines- i am pretty much set in my ways and do things much the same. i change things up but basically stick to same pattern. this old dog has a hard time learning new tricks.
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I like to change things up every once in awhile and will sometimes find something that I like better. For example, my favorite back exercise was Pendlay Rows, but then a couple months ago I tried rack pulls for my first time. I have to say that they are now my favorite. There are certain exercises that I will always like doing, and then some that only last for a few routines. I want to be able to find what works best for me and exploit the hell out of it in the gym!
 
kingjameskjf said:
I like to change things up every once in awhile and will sometimes find something that I like better. For example, my favorite back exercise was Pendlay Rows, but then a couple months ago I tried rack pulls for my first time. I have to say that they are now my favorite. There are certain exercises that I will always like doing, and then some that only last for a few routines. I want to be able to find what works best for me and exploit the hell out of it in the gym!
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same here, i will hear or read about something new and try it, but i always seem to come back to the old tried and true, lol.
 
Day 10


P-Mag at 75 mg
P-Stanz at 250 mg​


INFO:
My posterior shoulder area has been hurting since my last workout...not bad, but constant. I went to my chiropractor today and he said that I strained my teres minor. I still wanted to workout today but I had to modify it to exclude anything that would put strain on the muscle and aggravate it. At least it's minor and should be fine in a few days.


Pre-Workout
I was going to try a Jack3d and Maximize combo today but when I opened my sample of Jack3d it was a gooy paste. So I ended up doing a Maximize/Xpand combo instead.


Intra workout
I had a scoop of AEN IntrAbolic with a scoop of Gaspari SizeOn.


Post-Workout
CL Golden Gains and Golden Finish combo.



The Workout

Here's what I did today and in this exact order:



Bicep Curls:
8x35 DB (warm-up)
8x50 DB (on individual balance balls) ---> Bonus video footage is supplied!
7x100 Close Grip BB (on individual balance balls) ---> Bonus footage for this one too! Sorry, my recording person started both videos slightly late.
6x50 DB
4x100 CG BB



50 lbs Dumbbell curls on balance balls---it may look ghey as hell but it's much more difficult and is great for the core and synergistic muscles! :p
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100 lbs Barbell curls on balance balls ---> It provides lulz for those in the gym too! :D
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Dips:
BW (210) x20
BW + 45 plate x10
BW + 45 plate + 25 plate x6


Tricep Cable Pushdowns (FST-7):
6x170
6x170
6x170
6x170
6x170
6x170
10x180 ---> increased weight and reps on this one...looks like it's time to move up the weight for the early stages.


Preacher Curl (FST-7):
6x75
6x75
6x75
6x75
6x75
6x75
8x75 ---> Increased the weight by 5 lbs and still knocked out some extra reps. I think I will either increase the reps to 8 or the weight by another 5lbs.


Shoulder Shrugs on Hammer Strength (standing):
12x405 PR I couldn't do my other shoulder exercises so I decided to hit this one harder today. I could have done a few more reps but my grip failed.
10x405 Grip failed first again


Abs:

Sit-up weighted ball toss (whatever it's called!)

Russian twists with a 35 lbs dumbbell:
x30
x20


Cardio
Did my usual and swam for 20 laps today.



NOTES:
Even though I had to switch up my routine considerable, I still felt like I got a good workout in.


SIDES:
-No back pumps
-No increased acne
-No libido drop
-No shedding/hairline damage
-No headaches
-No noticable adverse reactions
-Only slight atrophy, so I am very pleased with this



My post workout dinner
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nice updates!!! great work out man!!! kill'em it!! thats alot of reps my friend!! keep it up and be careful!! nice post work out dinner!!! thats nice
 
Aaelael said:
nice updates!!! great work out man!!! kill'em it!! thats alot of reps my friend!! keep it up and be careful!! nice post work out dinner!!! thats nice
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nah, i am having dreams of a 2 inch porterhouse hot off the grill. tuna fish out of a can with boiled eggs are starting to suck, lol.
 
Aaelael said:
nice updates!!! great work out man!!! kill'em it!! thats alot of reps my friend!! keep it up and be careful!! nice post work out dinner!!! thats nice
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Thanks bro. Even though I cut my volume, my arms are still pretty sore today.

thebigt said:
nah, i am having dreams of a 2 inch porterhouse hot off the grill. tuna fish out of a can with boiled eggs are starting to suck, lol.
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lol, my wife yesterday was like, hey lets go to Red Robin (I love that place). I told here that there was probably nothing there that I could eat, then she pointed out an Italian Grill on the way from the gym! I went home and had fish, rice, and green beans instead! That porterhouse sounds really good though...:D
 
I bet you do get some funny looks on the balance balls, but hey if it works and you like it why not. It looks like it would be easy to bust your butt....That would suck fall and the weights fall on you. Don't wanna jinx you, be careful now.
 
CT3 said:
I bet you do get some funny looks on the balance balls, but hey if it works and you like it why not. It looks like it would be easy to bust your butt....That would suck fall and the weights fall on you. Don't wanna jinx you, be careful now.
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lol, yeah that would suck! I already had an experience when I was a teenager trying to bench 135 for my first time ever. I thought I could do it because I did it on chest press machine and didn't even put collars on the weights. Long story short...the weights slide off cause I couldn't get the bar up and made a HUGE noise and had lots of people staring at me...and some laughing! :D I learned from it though.
 
kingjameskjf said:
lol, yeah that would suck! I already had an experience when I was a teenager trying to bench 135 for my first time ever. I thought I could do it because I did it on chest press machine and didn't even put collars on the weights. Long story short...the weights slide off cause I couldn't get the bar up and made a HUGE noise and had lots of people staring at me...and some laughing! :D I learned from it though.
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live and learn, lol.
 
Great updates man and nice workou! Those balance balls really makes you hold your whole body in tension. It's a great way to work out the core of your body :thumbsup:

//CC
 
thebigt said:
live and learn, lol.
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haha, I sure did! Learned real quick to use collars, spotters, and then the let down and roll off your knees situp move too!

whoismikeford said:
fail on 135?! i must have some natural strength because i was getting 135 for 6-8 when i first started
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lol, I've never been very strong and was always a really skinny kid. I tried it out a couple times as a teenager but never stuck too it long. I started working out seriously when I was about 21 and I was still 6'00" and only 150 lbs. I finally got tired of being so damn skinny and weak that I decided to do something about it! I also have really long arms so some things like bench are more difficult (more distance for the weight to travel).

ConcreteConny said:
Great updates man and nice workou! Those balance balls really makes you hold your whole body in tension. It's a great way to work out the core of your body :thumbsup:

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Thanks bro! I first got the idea from an older guy in amazing shape doing them. I checked them out and decided to give it a shot. I had to start the weight off super low just to get the hang of the movement at first.
 
sounds like we are running the same type of frame, long arms and torso. but ripped like John Manhattan. but you still got 20 pounds on me.
 
lyfespan said:
sounds like we are running the same type of frame, long arms and torso. but ripped like John Manhattan. but you still got 20 pounds on me.
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lol! I went to my school gym last night instead of my regular gym cause it was snowing pretty good and the roads were crap and I didn't feel like driving the extra 15 minutes. While we were there, my wife pointed out some of the intramurals that they had. Some were...eh...interesting! We figured that if we got involved in some of those, we'd get plenty of cardio and never have to hit the track! Some of the ones that we're looking at doing are: Indoor soccer, water polo on inner tubes, dodge ball, and kickball! :D
 
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