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Mr.Cooper69, Patented Anabolic, and Bulk Season!

So gym has been closed past 3 days + exams. I will FINALLY be getting an opportunity to train in a bit, today. Overall, the main things I'm noticing is appetite increase (hence, anabolic hehe), improved vascularity and vivid dreams (the latter may just be due to deeper sleep...or getting sleep period).
 
mr.cooper69 said:
So gym has been closed past 3 days + exams. I will FINALLY be getting an opportunity to train in a bit, today. Overall, the main things I'm noticing is appetite increase (hence, anabolic hehe), improved vascularity and vivid dreams (the latter may just be due to deeper sleep...or getting sleep period).
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Bout daggum time coop! :D Look forward to hearing about your training session.
 
You Sleep? yeah thats odd.
hows things at PSU? Crazy as always?
I loved your gym when we trained there besides the huge amount of bro's that looked at us funny when we did weighted dips with 45 pound plates around our waist and actually deadlifted on deadlift platform and squatted in a squat rack.. LOL
 
To be fair. I would have looked at you funny as well if you were only using the 45lb plates for dips. ;)
 
Distilled Water said:
Bout daggum time coop! :D Look forward to hearing about your training session.
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Yeah sorry dude, this week has been hell. This is one reason why I wanted to comment on the effects of the ingredient alone, as a consistent gym schedule is damn near impossible to maintain these days.



The Solution said:
You Sleep? yeah thats odd.
hows things at PSU? Crazy as always?
I loved your gym when we trained there besides the huge amount of bro's that looked at us funny when we did weighted dips with 45 pound plates around our waist and actually deadlifted on deadlift platform and squatted in a squat rack.. LOL
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Brah, you really are out of it. I graduated last year, I've been in med school in philly! The PSU gym was legit as hell...like 24 benches, 12 squat racks, every weight/exercise you could name. My new gym BLOWS.


So I went and trained today. Got some numbers too.

Effects:

Some of you guys ate an insane surplus of calories for Thanksgiving. I ate that same absurd surplus every day for a week up to and including Thanksgiving. Mostly sedentary, little to no sleep, junk food and eating twice as much as normal due to the fact that I was awake both night and day. So needless to say, I was shocked when my bodyweight was exactly the same as when I started this log when I checked it on the scale after training today. Strength was about even, which is perfectly fine considering I haven't been able to consistently lift in some time. So needless to say, I am pretty astounded and impressed by the fact that a week of what many would consider a body composition nightmare had minimal effects. I definitely feel a layer of fat developing over my lower abs, but overall, I do feel the damage would be worse without patented anabolic, which is pretty much the only non-staple I'm using right now. Good stuff so far.

Oddly enough, I did not get the thermogenic effect while lifting today. But the vascularity was there...and absurd. I think my vascularity is actually increasing despite what appears to be a slight gain in bodyfat.
 
Awesome update

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mr.cooper69 said:
Yeah sorry dude, this week has been hell. This is one reason why I wanted to comment on the effects of the ingredient alone, as a consistent gym schedule is damn near impossible to maintain these days.
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It's all good amigo. I know how it goes with school. My best friend is doing his phd in medicinal chemistry and I never hear from him or it'll be at weird ass times. Kinda works since he's in the east and in on the left coast.

Nice update though, it's nice when people are so in tune with their body they can tell differences even when NOT having a consistent schedule. Your feedback is greatly appreciated!
 
Distilled Water said:
It's all good amigo. I know how it goes with school. My best friend is doing his phd in medicinal chemistry and I never hear from him or it'll be at weird ass times. Kinda works since he's in the east and in on the left coast.

Nice update though, it's nice when people are so in tune with their body they can tell differences even when NOT having a consistent schedule. Your feedback is greatly appreciated!
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Hah, yeah I typically sign on at 2 AM EST. And I appreciate the opportunity dude, so far I actually do notice what are potentially changes to body composition/mirror-feel...something I cannot say for 99% of supplements out there.

The Solution said:
What med school are you attending? 4-6 years?
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All med schools are 4 years to residency, at which point I may be cooped up for another eternity if I choose to go into something like surgery.

Effects (11/24/2012):

Today I took PA preworkout with EC stack. Holy cow, this stuff really seemed to potentiate the bronchodilation that I'm accustomed to getting from EC. Breathing had never felt so easy. The workout was legs day, fasted with no BCAAs or such. Vascularity is much improved, and now I have a new effect to report: the vascularity has spread to my genital region. Seriously though, the boners have been rampant the past 2 days...so much so that I can now comfortably rule them out as a random bout of sexual tension. I don't feel any hornier or anything, so I'm guessing that the vasodilation effect of this compound is very really and may be related to PDE5?
 
The best thing about your logs is that you know ingredients so well that even without seeing a formula you can already draw conclusions on what is in the product. Good work man.

Med School is no joke just like my brother went through pharm school. its a very very tough path and you will bust your ass to get a future job well worth your time. Keep grinding Coop.
If your ever out west we gotta meet up.

Arnold this year? ill be there.
 
Have you completed a degree in pharmacology or chemistry by any chance? Or just study the areas out of interest?

Good to see some results being consistant with others findings, product seems like the bizniz
 
The Solution said:
The best thing about your logs is that you know ingredients so well that even without seeing a formula you can already draw conclusions on what is in the product. Good work man.

Med School is no joke just like my brother went through pharm school. its a very very tough path and you will bust your ass to get a future job well worth your time. Keep grinding Coop.
If your ever out west we gotta meet up.

Arnold this year? ill be there.
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Yeah my sister is in pharm school and her work does look tough...although I help her out with ease :D. I probably will be limited to the east side of PA for the better part of 6 years, so it's up to you to come get me. I'll try to make the Arnold though!

Jiigzz said:
Have you completed a degree in pharmacology or chemistry by any chance? Or just study the areas out of interest?

Good to see some results being consistant with others findings, product seems like the bizniz
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Check PMs. I honestly have not followed a single other PA log, but at least a trend means that I'm not crazy. What are others noticing?

Grambo said:
Subbed in here.

I can relate with Coop on how the doctorates throw schedules through a loop
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Hah definitely, what'd/what're you studying?
 
Oh yeah that first year is rough. I think the hardest part is getting used to the speed and amount of material.

School you might be and overstatement honestly. Lol there's knowledge in my brain it's just putting it all together. I expect it to start sticking better once I'm using it a lot in practice my last year.

Love the choice I made doing it. Love my class and overall it's not too bad (and by that I mean I'm used to being stressed 24/7) It's funny when you go on breaks you realize how out of control the stress really is on you.

Carry on with the anabolicness.
 
The Solution said:
The best thing about your logs is that you know ingredients so well that even without seeing a formula you can already draw conclusions on what is in the product. Good work man.

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He should change his name to the Supplement wizard with a straight bar as his wand.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
I honestly have not followed a single other PA log, but at least a trend means that I'm not crazy. What are others noticing?
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People eating in caloric surplus without negitively effecting body comp + increased vascularity
 
Grambo said:
Clear out your PMs when you have a sec!
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Thx G, I told coop you would get with him on that.
 
I'm in for the rest of this Coop. Your observations up to this point are very similar to mine. I just started checking out the logs and its good to see I'm not alone. I discovered pretty quickly that I could bring my calories up considerably without negatively affecting my body composition. My intake has been pretty ridiculous the last couple weeks and I've yet to see any additional body fat. The increase in body temp (after dosing) and vascularity were both noticed as well. I've noticed a couple additional effects at this point, but I'm just finishing up week 3.
 
breezy11 said:
I'm in for the rest of this Coop. Your observations up to this point are very similar to mine. I just started checking out the logs and its good to see I'm not alone. I discovered pretty quickly that I could bring my calories up considerably without negatively affecting my body composition. My intake has been pretty ridiculous the last couple weeks and I've yet to see any additional body fat. The increase in body temp (after dosing) and vascularity were both noticed as well. I've noticed a couple additional effects at this point, but I'm just finishing up week 3.
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Yeah, pretty interesting right? The thermogenesis and vascularity are most prominent for me. And boners.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Yeah, pretty interesting right? The thermogenesis and vascularity are most prominent for me. And boners.
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I thought so. I initially started leaning out at my normal lean bulk intake. The thermo effect hasn't felt as strong as of late, but vascularity continues to improve. And boners are good.
 
breezy11 said:
I thought so. I initially started leaning out at my normal lean bulk intake. The thermo effect hasn't felt as strong as of late, but vascularity continues to improve. And boners are good.
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I actually have to agree with this to a T. The thermogenic effect was very pronounced initially, so much so that it altered the course of my workouts (had to slow down due to insane amounts of sweating). Now it's still there, but it's milder, which is honestly a welcome change.

11/26/12 - Upper Body - New effects


-It's been quite a few nights in a row now with exceedingly vivid dreams. May be random, or may be related.
-Nocturnal emissions have increased, indicating that this product may not just be pro-erectile but also pro-libido
-Strength was stagnant this training session for the first time in a while. I paired it with EC stack and a half liter of water.

Old effects -


-Vascularity and pumps continue to be very pronounced, particularly in the forearm region. Despite increased bodyfat, my median cubital veins and basilic veins appear to be more pronounced than ever, even when doing low rep (6-8 rep) work like weighted pullups or bench.
 
Great update coop! How has the quality of sleep been? Any better or worse? I remember you mentioning before you have trouble sleeping.
 
LiveToLift said:
Great update coop! How has the quality of sleep been? Any better or worse? I remember you mentioning before you have trouble sleeping.
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It's been better. I still have trouble getting to sleep but my dreams are a lot more vivid, I wake up less at night, and I wake up in the AM feeling refreshed. This is VERY multifactorial though.
 
11/27/2012 - Lower Body Day - New effects

Today was not a good training session. My numbers were WAY down and I had no clue why considering I had an epic preworkout meal and good sleep too. Happens I guess. Effects-wise, I have no new effects to report, but all the old ones are going full force, namely the vascularity and libido. I'm not noticing the ability to eat anything and not gain fat; I'm definitely gaining fat with the increase in calories, but it seems that my total weight is not as high as I'd think. Vascularity in my thighs was pretty cool despite the increase in fat. More to come tomorrow.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
11/27/2012 - Lower Body Day - New effects

Today was not a good training session. My numbers were WAY down and I had no clue why considering I had an epic preworkout meal and good sleep too. Happens I guess. Effects-wise, I have no new effects to report, but all the old ones are going full force, namely the vascularity and libido. I'm not noticing the ability to eat anything and not gain fat; I'm definitely gaining fat with the increase in calories, but it seems that my total weight is not as high as I'd think. Vascularity in my thighs was pretty cool despite the increase in fat. More to come tomorrow.
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Hmm.. Hope it was just a fluke today man. Maybe some dehydration or something? Not sure I'd be too interested in running the product just for added vascularity and a boost in libido. Good update brosef keep em coming!
 
LiveToLift said:
Hmm.. Hope it was just a fluke today man. Maybe some dehydration or something? Not sure I'd be too interested in running the product just for added vascularity and a boost in libido. Good update brosef keep em coming!
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It may have been. Damn sugar alcohols in protein bars making me sh!t my pants!
 
11/28/2012

Felt a lot better this session. The thermogenic effect of PA hit me full force today. It appears to do so during fasted workouts, whereas the thermo effect is weaker when doing fed training. Strength was up for upper body. One new thing I am noticing with PA is that I'm getting more sore from session to session, but that my recovery (ability to maintain strength in back to back sessions) is improved. But the increased soreness has definitely been prominent in my biceps and lats, both of which never get sore.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
11/28/2012

Felt a lot better this session. The thermogenic effect of PA hit me full force today. It appears to do so during fasted workouts, whereas the thermo effect is weaker when doing fed training. Strength was up for upper body. One new thing I am noticing with PA is that I'm getting more sore from session to session, but that my recovery (ability to maintain strength in back to back sessions) is improved. But the increased soreness has definitely been prominent in my biceps and lats, both of which never get sore.
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Glad to hear it went better today. What would you compare the soreness to? Drying out like on EPRO or just breaking down muscle tissue? Could be a good sign of growth if it's the tissue itself. In any case good update coop.
 
LiveToLift said:
Glad to hear it went better today. What would you compare the soreness to? Drying out like on EPRO or just breaking down muscle tissue? Could be a good sign of growth if it's the tissue itself. In any case good update coop.
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Muscle tissue. I think comparing it to the DOMS from arachidonic acid would be fair.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
11/28/2012

Felt a lot better this session. The thermogenic effect of PA hit me full force today. It appears to do so during fasted workouts, whereas the thermo effect is weaker when doing fed training. Strength was up for upper body. One new thing I am noticing with PA is that I'm getting more sore from session to session, but that my recovery (ability to maintain strength in back to back sessions) is improved. But the increased soreness has definitely been prominent in my biceps and lats, both of which never get sore.
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I've definitely noticed this as well. When do you workout? In the a.m.? I'm curious to the half-life of this product bc I usually take my PA in the morning around 7 or 8, but i've been noticing that when I consume some caffeine in the evening around 5 or 6 that the thermogenic effect is magnified much greater again compared to caffeine + no PA. It's interesting breaking into a sweat in a 70 degree room just sitting at a computer.

As for soreness.... It's nothing like being on DAA or a test booster and having little to no soreness at all the next day or two. Strength is still there even though i'm sore as hell.

Good observations Coop.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Idk how I missed your first post on this. Scranton's a hike, at least a couple hours drive, but if you're down, I'm down
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If i come out to visit my cousins and i know about it in advance i will give you a heads up. Ill make the drive,
Could you google it and let me know how far? So i could possibly talk my mom into it :)

come hit up you and illa for a shady maple visit? never been there...
 
The dysfunction of multiquote is killing me.

AZMIDLYF, Distilled Water - Thanks guys! I highly doubt it's any fatty acid based on the white powder, but I could be wrong.

MonteCedillo - It really does remind me of arachidonic acid in this regard. I'm getting more sore, and in unusual regions, but I'm also gaining strength.

The Solution - It's 2 hours and 15 minutes away if you follow the speed limit (mapquest). I'd kill for some shady maple though. And I haven't seen illa in far too long.


New effect - Is it possible that PA improves muscle glycogen replenishment? I find myself able to increase both volume and training frequency without my usual drops in strength mid-way through the session or between sessions. Even for a bulk, the improved recovery with respect to energy metabolism seems rather noticeable.

Old effects-

Vascularity - persistent and awesome
Thermogenesis - trained fasted this morning and it hit full force. Definitely related to fed vs fasted state
Soreness - still getting extra sore in unusual regions despite a surplus of calories and a standard training protocol.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
New effect - Is it possible that PA improves muscle glycogen replenishment? I find myself able to increase both volume and training frequency without my usual drops in strength mid-way through the session or between sessions. Even for a bulk, the improved recovery with respect to energy metabolism seems rather noticeable.
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I'm in complete agreement with you on this effect. I saw improvements with strength endurance and recovery pretty early on and it has continued to get better. At this point, the ability to maintain strength throughout a workout has changed quite a bit. It has also been making physical workdays much easier to get through.
 
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