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Morning, 25mg, every day. Loving it. If you're just starting, you may want to ease into the full dose... a week or two at 15 and then 20.
Start 10 and go slowly up...How are folks taking this, morning or at night?
10 mg or 20/25 mg?
Every day or 5/2 protocol?
Mass GH is mk677 with lgd 4033What's difference between Mass GH and Ghar1ne from Olympus Labs?
Thanks! So which one are recommended for a newbie?Mass GH is mk677 with lgd 4033
Ghar1ne is just the mk677
I haven't run none of them. So I think I must also start with 10mg? for how long then to increase the dose? In the study they find 25mg effective but how do you get into 25mg with 10mg per capsule?If you didn't run none of these, definitely start with just the mk677 by itself
Some find that taking it in the am alleviates some of the sleep issues and tiredness during the day. Also from what i hear, the strongest pulses come ~12hr after dosing, which would make a morning dose ideal.ok but when should I take it? on the morning or before bed?
I just got my first bottle a few days ago and it is 10mg caps. I have read in various places MK has a half life of 24 hours. Before getting all the way through this thread I started taking 2 caps/day (now I see to start at 10mg... but no bad sides yet). Anyway, with that half life, if I want to go to 25 in a couple weeks, could I alternate 2 and 3 caps every other day to average 25mg?You can do 20 or 30,
25 is seems to be the sweet spot, but 20-30 should be good too. OL recommends increaseing the dose every month, First 10
Second 20
Third 30
But i think it's more individual.
See how you responding to 10mg, how the hunger will be and the water retention, and workout your way up from there to 20 or 30
There's just absolutely no real evidence to suggest that adrenal fatigue even exists so that's not answerable at present... Peptides tend to raise cortisol though and cortisol is an adrenal hormone so it would stimulate the adrenals to work harder in theory if that level of thought is applied.Am very interested in running MK-677 after a pro hormone pre-competition cycle. Would like to try it throughout the summer to see its leaning effects. Would MK-677 be tough on someone with moderate adrenal fatigue? If anything wouldn't more growth hormone production produce healing effects in suboptimal organs? Anyone ever try Blue Sky Pep MK?
So based on your experience and the research you have done the degree of insulin resistance is dose / cycle length specific (and of course diet goes without saying)?There are two main problems: water retention and fat storage. While the water stuff is not a problem (reducing sodium, after cycle it will leave itself) the increasing insulin resistance is the bigger problem. Serveral studies have shown that the decreasing of insulin sensitivity starts fast with the beginning of the cycle and lasts for approx. 26 (!) weeks.
This fact decreases the attractivness of MK-677 a bit. Remember: it's still a powerful drug but you have to pay 10x more attention WHAT you are eating (amount and quality). Bad input leads to bad output.
You can still use MK-677 short term (<3 months) or run it moderate to long term (6-12months). In the second case you will have the advantage that your body will regenerate itself beloning to the insulin sensitivity. In the first case (and in the second case for the first six months) you have to watch out like your neighbours watch dog.
Nevertheless, the increase of GH, IGF-1 and the enourmous regeneration time under MK-677 makes it still very attractive.
Does this told fact MK-677 more attractive during a cutting phase? Maybe. The reduced insulin sensitivity leads in any cases to a higher probability to storage the nutrition in the fat instead in the muscle.
Pay attentions folks. If you treat MK-677 like it deserves it will give you its true love. If not, you will gain like me 4.4lbs fat and nearly 4lbs water beside 9.9lbs lean mass (with a strong SARM stack).
san
So based on your experience and the research you have done the degree of insulin resistance is dose / cycle length specific (and of course diet goes without saying)?There are two main problems: water retention and fat storage. While the water stuff is not a problem (reducing sodium, after cycle it will leave itself) the increasing insulin resistance is the bigger problem. Serveral studies have shown that the decreasing of insulin sensitivity starts fast with the beginning of the cycle and lasts for approx. 26 (!) weeks.
This fact decreases the attractivness of MK-677 a bit. Remember: it's still a powerful drug but you have to pay 10x more attention WHAT you are eating (amount and quality). Bad input leads to bad output.
You can still use MK-677 short term (<3 months) or run it moderate to long term (6-12months). In the second case you will have the advantage that your body will regenerate itself beloning to the insulin sensitivity. In the first case (and in the second case for the first six months) you have to watch out like your neighbours watch dog.
Nevertheless, the increase of GH, IGF-1 and the enourmous regeneration time under MK-677 makes it still very attractive.
Does this told fact MK-677 more attractive during a cutting phase? Maybe. The reduced insulin sensitivity leads in any cases to a higher probability to storage the nutrition in the fat instead in the muscle.
Pay attentions folks. If you treat MK-677 like it deserves it will give you its true love. If not, you will gain like me 4.4lbs fat and nearly 4lbs water beside 9.9lbs lean mass (with a strong SARM stack).
san
Well it's just that I've seen a lot of posts with users complaining about significantly raised blood sugar - even when fasted. And all the studies note insulin resistance developingMK 677 does not elevate igf1 like exogenous gh in a "typical" 3iu per day dose.
Insulin resistance won't be an issue unless your pounding carbs which in itself will cause it.
Very true I that's why I said it could take up to 26 weeks not that it will take 26 weeksThe time it takes for increased insulin resistance to subside (26 weeks?) in accordance with one study may well be subjective. Sounds like it. Next time I go for bloods I'll take note where my blood sugar is at.
If igf was elevated enough I could see that as an issue Yeah you're correct but through my own experience it wasn't an issue.Well it's just that I've seen a lot of posts with users complaining about significantly raised blood sugar - even when fasted. And all the studies note insulin resistance developing
3 and 310 are the numbers a guy relayed. Mid-Forties, 25mg/DayIf igf was elevated enough I could see that as an issue Yeah you're correct but through my own experience it wasn't an issue.
I personally haven't seen an igf number over 280 while using MK. GH serum does get elevated quite a bit though. Saw a recent test where the greater) tester showed 4. Something on his serum.
The two RC's that used to be on here, aren't anymore. Don't know who's choice that was, but the answer to your question is "None". You'll have to do your due diligence and find your own.Which board sponsors offer MK 677? I can't find it anywhere... which is a bit strange since it works and is legal?
So just to confirm... this is a legal supp right? I can't find anything about it being banned.The two RC's that used to be on here, aren't anymore. Don't know who's choice that was, but the answer to your question is "None". You'll have to do your due diligence and find your own.
It's stolen IP from Merck that is only sold as "Not For Human Consumption" - like drain cleaner and gasoline. You're question has been debated for 100's of pages before, on what exactly constitutes "not illegal" in relation to these types of products. The best answer is that to the internet's knowledge, nobody has ever been arrested for purchasing MK-677 from an RC site. Visa will let it go through, and the Post Office will deliver it - and no one seems to have ever gotten a "knock on the door" after that...So just to confirm... this is a legal supp right? I can't find anything about it being banned.
Ask Jon JonesWhich board sponsors offer MK 677? I can't find it anywhere... which is a bit strange since it works and is legal?
I understand what your saying but haven't experimental studies on mk677 been around since the 90's?It's stolen IP from Merck that is only sold as "Not For Human Consumption" - like drain cleaner and gasoline. You're question has been debated for 100's of pages before, on what exactly constitutes "not illegal" in relation to these types of products. The best answer is that to the internet's knowledge, nobody has ever been arrested for purchasing MK-677 from an RC site. Visa will let it go through, and the Post Office will deliver it - and no one seems to have ever gotten a "knock on the door" after that...
Oh, and it's an Experimental DRUG. We may all die because of it in 10 years.
From what I have read, it should not. You can try searching the forums and Google, maybe someone gots more informationI've taken MK677 for 3 weeks and now have to take a NCAA test in a few days. Can anyone help with something I can do to pass the test. Will it even show up on a URINE test for steroids? Any advice would be great. Thanks!!!
I wasn't being literal. FDA approved Vioxx killed 55,000 people. I was merely pointing out that this wasn't a "supp" - it's an experimental drug still in Phase Trials.I understand what your saying but haven't experimental studies on mk677 been around since the 90's?
I live through Vioxx !!!!!I wasn't being literal. FDA approved Vioxx killed 55,000 people. I was merely pointing out that this wasn't a "supp" - it's an experimental drug still in Phase Trials.
I'm glad you are still with us!I live through Vioxx !!!!!
LOL, knowledge is power.We're all gonna die from this sh!t.
Thank The_Old_Guy for being the Debbie Downer of the forum.
Lol.LOL, knowledge is power.
I'm taking 25mg/Night right now - so...Lol.
I agree. Just F-ing with you.
But now you got me scared.
Wtf, bro.
Why?
Why you doing this to us?
You noticing anything yet, I still need to get blood work done. I just wanted to wait a few months.I'm taking 25mg/Night right now - so...
I'm on my 3rd different source of 677 and still experience none of the "sides". That means one of three things:You noticing anything yet, I still need to get blood work done. I just wanted to wait a few months.
Water Retention, Carpal Numbness, Hunger due to Ghrelin stimulation.what kind of sides do you expect from mk ?
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