swimfan65
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Haha yeah it's too tough coming off mentally. Did you get emotional, angry, sad in tren ever?
On 600 of tren e...i was a basket case
Haha yeah it's too tough coming off mentally. Did you get emotional, angry, sad in tren ever?
i get agressive a bit.. overly harsh on stupid stuff. but honestly nothing like roid rage or anything. wife would call my a$$ out if get too nasty.
On 600 of tren e...i was a basket case
Speaking of tren, I wonder why the non 19-nor version was never used or isn’t mentioned anywhere in any literature I can find. It would be androst-4,9,11-triene-17b-ol-3-one instead of tren: estra-4,9,11-triene-17b-ol-3-one
I guess it must not have been as good.
That **** linger for weeks. I swear even ace is bad for a long time after you come off if going too high
I could have checked into a psych ward. My girl had to take off work to babysit me until it cleared my system. Paranoia was unreal...and reality was uncertin at best.
isnt the latter og ph "x-tren" ? thats not a tren its a dien iirc. Oh and i remember this debate back on the PHF... the reason no one would bring any trens to market, was that the FDA had its balls in a vice after the whole finaplex debacle got replaced with X-tren and were feverishly trying to thrawt the clones to come. also iirc trendione was the only thing unlisted at that time.. however nos found a couple unique trens and actually made one.. for a sec.Speaking of tren, I wonder why the non 19-nor version was never used or isn’t mentioned anywhere in any literature I can find. It would be androst-4,9,11-triene-17b-ol-3-one instead of tren: estra-4,9,11-triene-17b-ol-3-one
I guess it must not have been as good.
Yup exactly, paranoia is really crazy when it's extreme. You start imagining the most insane and dumb things that you know for a fact isn't true.
i fo sho get that.. its a strange euphoria with many rabbit holes to explore. the other thing it does to me is make me an absolute perv. kink is in when i am on~
i fo sho get that.. its a strange euphoria with many rabbit holes to explore. the other thing it does to me is make me an absolute perv. kink is in when i am on~
Too much of a perve...I was beating my junk like it stole my wallet
Too much of a perve...I was beating my junk like it stole my wallet
i topped out at 4x per day~ regardless if the wife gave me some or not...
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isnt the latter og ph "x-tren" ? thats not a tren its a dien iirc. Oh and i remember this debate back on the PHF... the reason no one would bring any trens to market, was that the FDA had its balls in a vice after the whole finaplex debacle got replaced with X-tren and were feverishly trying to thrawt the clones to come. also iirc trendione was the only thing unlisted at that time.. however nos found a couple unique trens and actually made one.. for a sec.
Dienolone is estra 4,9 diene
I have some dienelone acetate on hand. How does it compare to trestolone in effects and sides? Totally different right? Can you give me some recommendations on use?
I have some dienelone acetate on hand. How does it compare to trestolone in effects and sides? Totally different right? Can you give me some recommendations on use?
Gonna be more like tren than trest. Less bloat, more aggression. Could have 100% the same sides as tren for those particularly prone. Or could be like night and day. It’s more unpredictable in that regard. I’ve seen so much widespread usage of all three now, that I can confidently say that.
Yea that's kind of what I thought thanks. I felt great on treat. Mental sides of trend were fairly bad for me. I'll still try the dienelone though.
i topped out at 4x per day~ regardless if the wife gave me some or not...
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dienolone does spike BP pretty hard so be ready for that.
YEah many experienced guys will tell you.... tren isn't worth it if not competing. A lot of people claim tren changed them, like permanently. On the other hand some people feel fine on it. IMO if you have any mental health issues....ANY..... anxiety even, you should probably stay away. Get some trest + mast and possibly some Winnie or epistane mixed in if you wanna go hard.
What's a good lowish yet effective dose? I prefer low doses on most things.
I think you have those dosages backwards. 300mg IM is 10x stronger than 100mg TDDienolone is best at 100 mg daily transdermal or 300mg intra muscular per week. I felt minor increase in anxious feeling and had some trouble sleeping some nights with dienolone td.
I think you have those dosages backwards. 300mg IM is 10x stronger than 100mg TD
Daily vs weekly.
I need to learn how to read lol
I think you have those dosages backwards. 300mg IM is 10x stronger than 100mg TD
So for the record 300mg per week is advisable?
Not really ruled out as in (I won't inject it) I just don't have access to it.
Those are rookie numbers
Pure Research Oils has good Trestolone Ace. I’m running theirs right now. 50mg/10ml comes out to 55.97 with shipping. You may need a couple vials for a cycle but 20mg a day should be plenty to start with. A 6 week cycle is more than enough time to see solid gains with this stuff and you can squeeze that out of 2 vials honestly. I noticed crazy gains and strength increases at 2 or 3 weeks. Trest is dumb strong. If you really wanna have fun I highly recommend throwing in 40mg of the oral on training days pre-workout too.
I will say the estrogen conversion is not exaggerated at all though. It sent mine through the roof in 2 days pinning 20mg a day. I made the mistake of wanting to test the waters instead of upping my AI to begin with. Had to cut my Test dose in half too.
Yeah I'm not sure about dosage so I guess I'll taper with it. That store is in the US too?
50 eod is a good place to start
Pure Research Oils has good Trestolone Ace. I’m running theirs right now. 50mg/10ml comes out to 55.97 with shipping. You may need a couple vials for a cycle but 20mg a day should be plenty to start with. A 6 week cycle is more than enough time to see solid gains with this stuff and you can squeeze that out of 2 vials honestly. I noticed crazy gains and strength increases at 2 or 3 weeks. Trest is dumb strong. If you really wanna have fun I highly recommend throwing in 40mg of the oral on training days pre-workout too.
I will say the estrogen conversion is not exaggerated at all though. It sent mine through the roof in 2 days pinning 20mg a day. I made the mistake of wanting to test the waters instead of upping my AI to begin with. Had to cut my Test dose in half too.
Ive ran trest before with no test and then another time with cruise dose of test. Felt better and more weight gain without the test. However did not add really any strength. Felt like I could train forever in the gym. That was intresting and cool for me, because im normally a get in, get out kinda guy lol.
Yeah I'm not sure about dosage so I guess I'll taper with it. That store is in the US too?
Ive ran trest before with no test and then another time with cruise dose of test. Felt better and more weight gain without the test. However did not add really any strength. Felt like I could train forever in the gym. That was intresting and cool for me, because im normally a get in, get out kinda guy lol.
This was one of my favorite PMs!Pm yo you Chados
You felt like you could train forever, but no real strength increase?