Ment (trestolone)

[swimfan65]

Haha yeah it's too tough coming off mentally. Did you get emotional, angry, sad in tren ever?

On 600 of tren e...i was a basket case

 

[Chados]

i get agressive a bit.. overly harsh on stupid stuff. but honestly nothing like roid rage or anything. wife would call my a$$ out if get too nasty.

I got the opposite, maybe not said but anxious like a truck. During cycle I'm always fine but if I go too hight it always catch up when I come off

 

[Chados]

On 600 of tren e...i was a basket case

That **** linger for weeks. I swear even ace is bad for a long time after you come off if going too high

 

[Old Witch]

Tren is nearly indestructible. it stays around much, much longer than its ester would normally have you believe. Trest is not nearly as hard to metabolize.

 

[Old Witch]

Speaking of tren, I wonder why the non 19-nor version was never used or isn’t mentioned anywhere in any literature I can find. It would be androst-4,9,11-triene-17b-ol-3-one instead of tren: estra-4,9,11-triene-17b-ol-3-one

I guess it must not have been as good.

 

[Chados]

Speaking of tren, I wonder why the non 19-nor version was never used or isn’t mentioned anywhere in any literature I can find. It would be androst-4,9,11-triene-17b-ol-3-one instead of tren: estra-4,9,11-triene-17b-ol-3-one

I guess it must not have been as good.

I think that's some prohormone with Androstenedione. Some sort of trendione mix. Not real tren.

 

[swimfan65]

That **** linger for weeks. I swear even ace is bad for a long time after you come off if going too high

I could have checked into a psych ward. My girl had to take off work to babysit me until it cleared my system. Paranoia was unreal...and reality was uncertin at best.

 

[Chados]

I could have checked into a psych ward. My girl had to take off work to babysit me until it cleared my system. Paranoia was unreal...and reality was uncertin at best.

Yup exactly, paranoia is really crazy when it's extreme. You start imagining the most insane and dumb things that you know for a fact isn't true.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Speaking of tren, I wonder why the non 19-nor version was never used or isn’t mentioned anywhere in any literature I can find. It would be androst-4,9,11-triene-17b-ol-3-one instead of tren: estra-4,9,11-triene-17b-ol-3-one

I guess it must not have been as good.

isnt the latter og ph "x-tren" ? thats not a tren its a dien iirc. Oh and i remember this debate back on the PHF... the reason no one would bring any trens to market, was that the FDA had its balls in a vice after the whole finaplex debacle got replaced with X-tren and were feverishly trying to thrawt the clones to come. also iirc trendione was the only thing unlisted at that time.. however nos found a couple unique trens and actually made one.. for a sec.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Yup exactly, paranoia is really crazy when it's extreme. You start imagining the most insane and dumb things that you know for a fact isn't true.

i fo sho get that.. its a strange euphoria with many rabbit holes to explore. the other thing it does to me is make me an absolute perv. kink is in when i am on~

 

[swimfan65]

i fo sho get that.. its a strange euphoria with many rabbit holes to explore. the other thing it does to me is make me an absolute perv. kink is in when i am on~

Too much of a perve...I was beating my junk like it stole my wallet

 

[Chados]

i fo sho get that.. its a strange euphoria with many rabbit holes to explore. the other thing it does to me is make me an absolute perv. kink is in when i am on~

Yeah it sort of blocks out logical thinking and you have to accept that it's the tren to be able to control it. As soon as you believe it's real youre done. Nobody with any baggage should touch tren. There are a lot of people that broke up with their ex years ago and on tren they believe they made a mistake. That's how ****ed up it is.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Too much of a perve...I was beating my junk like it stole my wallet

i topped out at 4x per day~ regardless if the wife gave me some or not...

:dance:

 

[Chados]

Too much of a perve...I was beating my junk like it stole my wallet

Haha it's a very disturbing compound. I'm done with tren, I had one mental breakdown and while I knew it was the tren I still kinda doubted it, (maybe I'm just depressed) for what?? My life was awesome two weeks ago.

 

[swimfan65]

i topped out at 4x per day~ regardless if the wife gave me some or not...

:dance:

Yep

 

[Old Witch]

isnt the latter og ph "x-tren" ? thats not a tren its a dien iirc. Oh and i remember this debate back on the PHF... the reason no one would bring any trens to market, was that the FDA had its balls in a vice after the whole finaplex debacle got replaced with X-tren and were feverishly trying to thrawt the clones to come. also iirc trendione was the only thing unlisted at that time.. however nos found a couple unique trens and actually made one.. for a sec.

The second one I wrote is tren. The first one is tren withstill having 19th position, so non-progestin tren. Androstene skeleton instead of estra.

Tren normally has a 19nor skeleton. An estra skeleton.

Specifically, tren is the estrene skeleton with double bonds (enes) at positions 4, 9, and 11 (triene)

Another way to say tren would be estratrienolone.

Trest is the 19 nor of Bolasterone. Bolasterone is androstene, trest is estrene. Both are 7a methyl.

 

[Old Witch]

Dienolone is estra 4,9 diene

 

[Pleonastic]

Dienolone is estra 4,9 diene

I have some dienelone acetate on hand. How does it compare to trestolone in effects and sides? Totally different right? Can you give me some recommendations on use?

 

[Old Witch]

I have some dienelone acetate on hand. How does it compare to trestolone in effects and sides? Totally different right? Can you give me some recommendations on use?

Gonna be more like tren than trest. Less bloat, more aggression. Could have 100% the same sides as tren for those particularly prone. Or could be like night and day. It’s more unpredictable in that regard. I’ve seen so much widespread usage of all three now, that I can confidently say that.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

I have some dienelone acetate on hand. How does it compare to trestolone in effects and sides? Totally different right? Can you give me some recommendations on use?

i find it to be the real tren light.. its the parent hormone the OG x-tren supplements converted to.

i find trest to be tren medium/heavy as it will strip the fat like tren make you sleep in pools of sweat like tren but your sleep is 10% better and your mood is perfect for the entire time your on it.

 

[Pleonastic]

Gonna be more like tren than trest. Less bloat, more aggression. Could have 100% the same sides as tren for those particularly prone. Or could be like night and day. It’s more unpredictable in that regard. I’ve seen so much widespread usage of all three now, that I can confidently say that.

Yea that's kind of what I thought thanks. I felt great on treat. Mental sides of trend were fairly bad for me. I'll still try the dienelone though.

 

[stopstalking]

I once did 1200 mg of test with 700 mg Tren ace a week and abomb kicker. I will say that is the only cycle ever that had me flipping out over nothing. It was the only time I would ever say that”roid rage” was a thing for me

I’ve never experienced the getting sad from Tren. Now clomid gets me water eyed over little things

 

[Old Witch]

Yea that's kind of what I thought thanks. I felt great on treat. Mental sides of trend were fairly bad for me. I'll still try the dienelone though.

It’s definitely worth a try.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

dienolone does spike BP pretty hard so be ready for that.

 

[RickyBlobby]

i topped out at 4x per day~ regardless if the wife gave me some or not...

:dance:

Those are rookie numbers

 

[RickyBlobby]

YEah many experienced guys will tell you.... tren isn't worth it if not competing. A lot of people claim tren changed them, like permanently. On the other hand some people feel fine on it. IMO if you have any mental health issues....ANY..... anxiety even, you should probably stay away. Get some trest + mast and possibly some Winnie or epistane mixed in if you wanna go hard.

 

[Pleonastic]

dienolone does spike BP pretty hard so be ready for that.

What's a good lowish yet effective dose? I prefer low doses on most things.

 

[Chados]

YEah many experienced guys will tell you.... tren isn't worth it if not competing. A lot of people claim tren changed them, like permanently. On the other hand some people feel fine on it. IMO if you have any mental health issues....ANY..... anxiety even, you should probably stay away. Get some trest + mast and possibly some Winnie or epistane mixed in if you wanna go hard.

Not permanently but it really can last months after you end the cycle. It's not fun

 

[dvw]

What's a good lowish yet effective dose? I prefer low doses on most things.

Dienolone is best at 100 mg daily transdermal or 300mg intra muscular per week. I felt minor increase in anxious feeling and had some trouble sleeping some nights with dienolone td.

 

[RickyBlobby]

Dienolone is best at 100 mg daily transdermal or 300mg intra muscular per week. I felt minor increase in anxious feeling and had some trouble sleeping some nights with dienolone td.

I think you have those dosages backwards. 300mg IM is 10x stronger than 100mg TD

 

[Renew1]

I think you have those dosages backwards. 300mg IM is 10x stronger than 100mg TD

Daily vs weekly.

 

[Old Witch]

I was thinking 100mg dien E per week. Too low?

 

[RickyBlobby]

Daily vs weekly.

I need to learn how to read lol

 

[Renew1]

I need to learn how to read lol

LOL

 

[Pleonastic]

I think you have those dosages backwards. 300mg IM is 10x stronger than 100mg TD

So for the record 300mg per week is advisable?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

So for the record 300mg per week is advisable?

thats a good starting point

 

[Zvch]

Not really ruled out as in (I won't inject it) I just don't have access to it.

Pure Research Oils has good Trestolone Ace. I’m running theirs right now. 50mg/10ml comes out to 55.97 with shipping. You may need a couple vials for a cycle but 20mg a day should be plenty to start with. A 6 week cycle is more than enough time to see solid gains with this stuff and you can squeeze that out of 2 vials honestly. I noticed crazy gains and strength increases at 2 or 3 weeks. Trest is dumb strong. If you really wanna have fun I highly recommend throwing in 40mg of the oral on training days pre-workout too.

I will say the estrogen conversion is not exaggerated at all though. It sent mine through the roof in 2 days pinning 20mg a day. I made the mistake of wanting to test the waters instead of upping my AI to begin with. Had to cut my Test dose in half too.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Those are rookie numbers

im old and at this point my dik is like leather.

 

[Chados]

Pure Research Oils has good Trestolone Ace. I’m running theirs right now. 50mg/10ml comes out to 55.97 with shipping. You may need a couple vials for a cycle but 20mg a day should be plenty to start with. A 6 week cycle is more than enough time to see solid gains with this stuff and you can squeeze that out of 2 vials honestly. I noticed crazy gains and strength increases at 2 or 3 weeks. Trest is dumb strong. If you really wanna have fun I highly recommend throwing in 40mg of the oral on training days pre-workout too.

I will say the estrogen conversion is not exaggerated at all though. It sent mine through the roof in 2 days pinning 20mg a day. I made the mistake of wanting to test the waters instead of upping my AI to begin with. Had to cut my Test dose in half too.

Yeah I'm not sure about dosage so I guess I'll taper with it. That store is in the US too?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Yeah I'm not sure about dosage so I guess I'll taper with it. That store is in the US too?

50 eod is a good place to start

 

[Chados]

50 eod is a good place to start

Yeah that sounds fair I think. If **** goes down, most likely estrogen since I tend to notice that more than anything else I got it covered /potentially taper down.

 

[Chados]

Do we have anyone in the EU here BTW? If you've ordered trest IM please message me.

 

[Pleonastic]

Pure Research Oils has good Trestolone Ace. I’m running theirs right now. 50mg/10ml comes out to 55.97 with shipping. You may need a couple vials for a cycle but 20mg a day should be plenty to start with. A 6 week cycle is more than enough time to see solid gains with this stuff and you can squeeze that out of 2 vials honestly. I noticed crazy gains and strength increases at 2 or 3 weeks. Trest is dumb strong. If you really wanna have fun I highly recommend throwing in 40mg of the oral on training days pre-workout too.

I will say the estrogen conversion is not exaggerated at all though. It sent mine through the roof in 2 days pinning 20mg a day. I made the mistake of wanting to test the waters instead of upping my AI to begin with. Had to cut my Test dose in half too.

Ive ran trest before with no test and then another time with cruise dose of test. Felt better and more weight gain without the test. However did not add really any strength. Felt like I could train forever in the gym. That was intresting and cool for me, because im normally a get in, get out kinda guy lol.

 

[Renew1]

Ive ran trest before with no test and then another time with cruise dose of test. Felt better and more weight gain without the test. However did not add really any strength. Felt like I could train forever in the gym. That was intresting and cool for me, because im normally a get in, get out kinda guy lol.

You felt like you could train forever, but no real strength increase?

 

[Zvch]

Yeah I'm not sure about dosage so I guess I'll taper with it. That store is in the US too?

Yeah it’s in the US. Virginia I think. I saw a couple sites that looked promising in EU. They were slightly more expensive and I can’t vouch for any of them though. With shipping and the risk of customs it probably would all even out anyway.

 

[Zvch]

Ive ran trest before with no test and then another time with cruise dose of test. Felt better and more weight gain without the test. However did not add really any strength. Felt like I could train forever in the gym. That was intresting and cool for me, because im normally a get in, get out kinda guy lol.

Yeah the amount of volume you can handle on it is absurd. Strength is good but not great until you really get up there in dosage. Once you find the right dose the strength comes quick. It’s more on the anabolic side than the strength side overall. For me anyway. The amount of size you put on and how quickly it comes is similar to 50mg of DMZ for me. I went from just cutting it with a large size shirt to not even being able to get into one in 2 or 3 weeks.

 

[LGTWHIT]

Pm yo you Chados

 

[Cgkone]

Pm yo you Chados

This was one of my favorite PMs!
G2G all day!!

 

[Pleonastic]

You felt like you could train forever, but no real strength increase?

Yes at the end of a workout it felt like I could do it all over again. However the weights I used didn't really go up.

 

[adammorrow36]

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