Kinggrommet
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mylo said:
Thanks for the link homey!
Marijuana and Working Out
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Thanks for the link homey!
Doss
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In the off-season I partake regularly, but I don't smoke. Having access to dispensaries with a medical card in Colorado really cuts down on a lot of concern about what additional compounds may or may not be found in your product. That said, I don't think Mary Jane and the weight room mix. If you're going to be lifting you need to be focused and intense - I doubt anyone who tells me that they can go to the gym high and squat as heavy as when they are sober. I know no one who has PR'd while stoned.
I think the benefits are the increased appetite while bulking, increased awareness of muscle activation/the mind muscle connection, and conceptual thinking about programming. It's a great time, just save it for after the gym and not right before bed.
I think the benefits are the increased appetite while bulking, increased awareness of muscle activation/the mind muscle connection, and conceptual thinking about programming. It's a great time, just save it for after the gym and not right before bed.
mylo
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i think it actually raises norepinephrine levels, which = more cortisol. want a link? x)
sorry i'm kind of busy right now but i can dig one up later on...
mylo
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any time!
epstaneman
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I was just being stupid. I'm sure ALL drugs and alcohol aren't good for body building.
Still not going to stop me from smoking though.
cokeholio
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Good thread, I personally smoke like everyday, cut or bulk, all I know is it helps to bulk but I hve smoked for a while so I can control munchies. Also I get really good focus at the gym if I choose toke before. but I also think I'd get better gains if I didn't just because of its other effects. But for the original question I think a joint here and there will have no effect on your training or gains.
Medical420
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I'll be honest, I stopped reading after the first few posts and just felt like posting my side.
First I will start with I smoke and eat, and i am not posting this to be impressive or gloat, i take this very seriously. My edibles can cripple an average toker due to my extremely high tolerance. I have a personal, professional grower and is top quality. I smoke anywhere from 20 to 50 joints a day and eat between 3 - 5 gluten and sugar free canna cookies daily. This mornin was my first day back to cardio in a long time. It was a medium pace and I lasted 2k. I was out of breath but not struggling.
A study In early 2012. Marijuana vs. cigarette vs. non smoker. Lung function test came back MJ best, non second best, smoker worst. It probably has a minor effect, but that is all, IMO and in my case.
Take it for what you will. I hit one before and after my workout
As for brain function, i do my job this way, with no notice of co workers, no flaws, just quick productive days.
Cheers
M420
First I will start with I smoke and eat, and i am not posting this to be impressive or gloat, i take this very seriously. My edibles can cripple an average toker due to my extremely high tolerance. I have a personal, professional grower and is top quality. I smoke anywhere from 20 to 50 joints a day and eat between 3 - 5 gluten and sugar free canna cookies daily. This mornin was my first day back to cardio in a long time. It was a medium pace and I lasted 2k. I was out of breath but not struggling.
A study In early 2012. Marijuana vs. cigarette vs. non smoker. Lung function test came back MJ best, non second best, smoker worst. It probably has a minor effect, but that is all, IMO and in my case.
Take it for what you will. I hit one before and after my workout
As for brain function, i do my job this way, with no notice of co workers, no flaws, just quick productive days.
Cheers
M420
legaljuicer
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It ruined a marriage.....dont ask me my opinion.....most wont like it
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aceroni
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Just pointing out the fact that the link provided to pubmed is not an actual study, it's a summary of prior studies (which, are likely from the days of reefer madness) and the guy on page one posting about mj having more tar / carcinogens than tobacco, give me a break dude. I call COMPLETE bull**** there. Let's see your sources, or that **** isnt legit.
Here's my take. I've been lifting since freshman year of highschool (roughly 8-9 years). When I started, I was roughly 110 lbs. Now, 8 yrs later (natural bb no aas or ph) i am sitting at 180 lbs lean. (can see quad seperation, abs / obliques.).. Throughout this time period (the first few years) i smoked occasionally, then through the middle - recently I was smoking quite heavily / regurarly. I can agree with the above posters with a few key points- mj is good for bulking, you can eat and eat and eat, all the time, all day long. It helps you relax (relaxing is key to recovery, right?).. I recently quit smoking pot for my new job and i have to say i have much more mental clarity / focus / drive throughout the day. Not as hungry, but mentally i am better off.
I love smoking a bowl but i get SO ****ING LAZY. IT IS REDICULOUS.\\
Anyways- you can still smoke and gain, i would just suggest never smoking before the gym, the perfect time would be to take a one hitter or two on the way home from the gym (reduce your nausea and increase your appetite)..
At the end of the day- it's your body, you can do what you want to do. I do believe that smoking will help you gain weight. But I also believe I perform better / have better focus in the gym and in the classroom now that i have quit smoking.. If you can smoke, and control your habit- to the point that you're only smoking a few times a week, after tough workouts and what not- you'll be fine. Just dont be getting high all day every day- you will become lazy, I'm sure.
Hope this helps
edit: @mylo- why the hell would you want to be angry? one of the things i love most about pot is that after a bowl or two i am so much less uptight about everything, I can just relax, let the small **** go, and not get bothered by insignificant ****. I honestly become a more relaxed, better person when i am high. I just cant be high all the time because i am far too unproductive.
Here's my take. I've been lifting since freshman year of highschool (roughly 8-9 years). When I started, I was roughly 110 lbs. Now, 8 yrs later (natural bb no aas or ph) i am sitting at 180 lbs lean. (can see quad seperation, abs / obliques.).. Throughout this time period (the first few years) i smoked occasionally, then through the middle - recently I was smoking quite heavily / regurarly. I can agree with the above posters with a few key points- mj is good for bulking, you can eat and eat and eat, all the time, all day long. It helps you relax (relaxing is key to recovery, right?).. I recently quit smoking pot for my new job and i have to say i have much more mental clarity / focus / drive throughout the day. Not as hungry, but mentally i am better off.
I love smoking a bowl but i get SO ****ING LAZY. IT IS REDICULOUS.\\
Anyways- you can still smoke and gain, i would just suggest never smoking before the gym, the perfect time would be to take a one hitter or two on the way home from the gym (reduce your nausea and increase your appetite)..
At the end of the day- it's your body, you can do what you want to do. I do believe that smoking will help you gain weight. But I also believe I perform better / have better focus in the gym and in the classroom now that i have quit smoking.. If you can smoke, and control your habit- to the point that you're only smoking a few times a week, after tough workouts and what not- you'll be fine. Just dont be getting high all day every day- you will become lazy, I'm sure.
Hope this helps
edit: @mylo- why the hell would you want to be angry? one of the things i love most about pot is that after a bowl or two i am so much less uptight about everything, I can just relax, let the small **** go, and not get bothered by insignificant ****. I honestly become a more relaxed, better person when i am high. I just cant be high all the time because i am far too unproductive.
Torobestia
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This is a funny addendum due to my personal experience with weed. Prior to it, I was always a highly uptight, "wound-up" kind of guy up through high school. All getting laid did was make me comfortable around girls, otherwise I still was almost constantly stressed out. For about 4 years, after high school, I would smoke pot probably once every 3 weeks or even less frequent. I've been off of it now for a year, but it's surprising to me how much my character has changed. I am no longer phased by small things, and even under pressing circumstances I keep my cool. I know some of this just comes with the territory when you mature, but I suspect weed played a role here. The one thing between weed and me is that I have a strange neuronal wiring such that whenever I smoked I would have very crazy hallucinations, even with mids.
Torobestia
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It was pot.
epstaneman
Banned
Maybe he's just a trippin a**? :439:
Medical420
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Douchbags cut weed, I have heard from water to windex and beyond. Who knows what he smoked. Again, my amounts are very high. In the beginning when my tolerance was low and I would laugh and eat like mad and was lazy. After you build a tolerance where you can function at almost a normal rate, you don't get the fog, you get focus. You don't get lazy, you get productive. And you don't get stupid, I do my job better now than before, and this is not my opinion. This is actual fact. I am almost always medicated, I wake in the middle of night in major discomfort and smoke 2 to fall asleep pain free. I do everything I did pre MJ the same now. Never tripped, never hallucinated, only smoked myself to sleep a few times.
Let's be straight here. A good chunk of USA deficit is due in part by the waste of money spent targeting Marijuana. Before the USA got stupid, marijuana was grown world wide legally and on US soil. Between the US govt and it's tag team partner Oil companies, they have brainwashed generations into believing Weed is a gateway drug, an addictive drug blah blah blah. Fact of the matter is, it's a plant. One that can be used for quiet a few things, including medicine, fuel, clothing, paper, food, supplements etc. Netflix USA has some pretty mind blowing and uncovering documentaries. Sit down, hit one and watch them. You'll see a different light when you hear both sides!
(ps. I touched it a couple times when younger, only really started in '08. Now it is my sole medication.)
StrikeThree
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Do I think that marijuana is going to have the physiological impacts of other drugs like cocaine, meth, heroin etc.? Nah. What I will say and I don't think I need scientific evidence to prove it is that...
Smoking puts tar in your lungs. That can't be good. Carbon Monoxide makes it where oxygen can't get to where it needs to go. That can't be good. Your body has to metabolize THC and use resources that could be better spent building muscle. That's just a bummer.
I personally just dislike weed. Some people love it and I think that it definitely helps some people in a lot of ways. I would even argue that for a lot of people who like to smoke that it could potentially reduce cortisol levels in the blood which is a great thing.
Medical420
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StrikeThree said:
Agree, disagree, agree!
Smoking cigs causes TAR on your lungs due to the amount of other additives to plane tobacco. As posted above. Proven 20 yr Study (USA) cig vs. Non. .marijuana does minimal damage effect , also lung function was top of the list.
I get blood, Emt(heart) analysis and lung X-rays as well as a part of my doctor agreeing to sign my forms. X-rays always come back with. "Lookin good". Blood abviously better now than with Methotrexate, prednasone, Celebrex, naproxine, Lymfimidified, and some others for depression, heartburn anger. Heart rate I control with slow deep breathing sessions (in and out I the gym)
So IMO and the opinion of my doctor. Marijuana is "harmless" to me, and only beneficial.
And as for the cortisol, I say it does. I have quiet a few issues, some I have corrected and some I maintain with MJ (pain, anxiety, adhd,) depression and anger was healed by all the health progression naturally, the Gym and MJ.
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I like this discussion.
aceroni
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Medical420 said:
I agree with this but I'd also say that if you have sensitive lungs you should just use a vaporizer.. (which you don't, clearly, but others may)
And on another untouched note, (I am pro-herb) the cilia in your throat is damaged by smoke, but they regenerate quickly. I believe it was between 1-2 Weeks before they are back to normal after a smoking break..
Again fixed by a vaporizer.
But yes I just got back from a brutal training session and one puff of the herb relaxes my nausea.
Medical420
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I own and operate an Easy Vape. I would like a Volcano. Very effective. But I still smoke J's and eat. edibles being the best over time Body Pain relief, smoking and Vap being instant pain relief.
My lungs are not sensitive, it is my doctors wishes to monitor. It is mainly because He doesnt know the effects of it on our body. My lung function is in great working order.
I understand people KNOW smoking cigarettes causes damage it our lungs. And I understand the smoke and heat damages tissues. At the same time I know I am only smoking Ultra thin rice paper and dried marijuana. That is it. No added Tar, rat poision and sprays. I believe there is minimal damage being done, I am able to do more now than before. Playing Hockey was the best part, my lungs where great! I am confident in the study done on MJ and lungs.
CJNator
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I read only a couple of post and noticed that everyone call marijuana a "drug". Well im not a historian but i believe marijuana was falsely accused of being a abused drug and here is a website if you was to read it about why it became illegal Invalid Link Removed . Off of my experience it wont kill someone to lay back and relax once in a while, i don't condone using marijuana for bad things but just look at all the good it does.
P.S.- If you think marijuana is bad what do you think about alcohol and all the "good" it does to this world?
P.S.- If you think marijuana is bad what do you think about alcohol and all the "good" it does to this world?
mylo
Member
never said alcohol was good. i'm against both. by the way, marijuana is psychoactive, making it a drug.
not bashing your use of it, but i don't believe it goes well with lifting...
mylo
Member
totally off topic bro, but i really recommend the gw on pct!! it fixes your lipid profile, cuts you up nicely, and prevents muscle loss in my experience with it! never used it on cycle so i can't vouch for it like that but i'd imagine it'd best be saved for your most vulnerable moments.
CJNator
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Yea know but if i asked the average person they would say weed is bad for you compared to alcohol and i dont really get why people say that. Oh and yea it has nothing to do with lifting but i read something a while back about creatine and marijuana but i dont remember what they said.
Medical420
Member
It ****ing rocks dude. I can't do pre right now because of caffeine, but pre and MJ is a blast. I would power through **** with crisp form (focus from the weeeeeeed is intense for me)
Medical420
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:439:
CJNator
Well-known member
I would totally try it but depending on what kind i would probably fall asleep in the middle of an exercise :sleeping: but out of the gym :439: no problem!
mylo
Member
pot preworkout would always make me lazy as ****, i used to love popping concerta preworkout though, 1 concerta 54 and i'd be a powerlifting machine!!
StrikeThree
New member
Alright! Hold up. We gotta stop the reggae music here in regards to the tar argument. Next time you light up a doobski just look at the roach. Bro. We can all agree that a roach looks like a burnt mouse turd. If that brown #%%$ isn't tar then it isn't tar. But it is definitely something and its definitely going into your lungs. All tar is, is any material (both tobacco and/or plant matter) that has been partially combusted and healed resulting in a stank ass resin. Compared to cigs, I definitely think that the green is much healthier because it isn't as processed as cigarette tobacco. It's like frozen peas and fresh peas. The fresh peas are straight up better.
Heed my warning though. Without going into detail or anything, don't think for a second that MJ is as natural as many think. Farmers are now using GH and chemicals to get bigger crop yields. These farmers do not care about keeping it natural. The more buds they can make in a single crop, the more money they make. That means that a lot of the stuff people get is filled with growth chemicals and nasty stuff. I just know this. It's sad. But very very true.
I would argue that you, unlike SO MANY Americans, are actually living a healthy life. You lift, you run, and you keep your body in check at all times. The sad case is that unlike you, who is removing this tar and bad #$%# on a daily basis through cardio, proper nutrition, and exercise, other individuals consider changing the channel or putting their hand in a bag of chips lifting. This would explain the thumbs up from your doctor. You are healthy with MJ. No problem there.
It really does just work for some people. The potential negative effects of marijuana are far outweighed by the benefits in a lot of people. If you find that your quality of life is better then I really don't think anyone should shame anyone for making a decision that is in their best interest. I really do think that there is a lot of bias in the healthcare side of MJ. The roach bro. The roach says it all hahaha.
benmayro
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just adding my two cents! I dont smoke because of personal choices and i dont care if someone does, cause to each his own. I just couldnt imagine the revenue the goverment could make through taxation of it! thats the reason why cigs are legal, the profit margain are so high for the govt! Why not legalize, give proper educational purposes and make whoever makes it follow govt regulations
akoli
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hey check out muscleprodigy.com they just posted about what your asking, some science to back it up. in short, marijuana only has negative effects on your hormones if you dont really smoke often and throw in a joint every now and then, if your a constant smoker then your hormones get used to the thc and it has no real negative effects on your body.
hope this helps.
hope this helps.
schwellington
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soontobbeast said:
Just because it's natural does not mean it is fine and free of risk. That would be called the naturalistic fallacy
Is it better for you than booze? Absolutely. But these RISKS are there
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Medical420 said:
Saw that study. The pot group was the winner.
DerickVonD
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Didn't read every post just skimmed through the thread. I figured I'd post my input. I have read studies that are none government founded, that being the key term here, that state that cannabis actually promotes brain cell growth and has no effect on testosterone. I have never worked out the same day I smoked but I have worked out the day after and still had a good workout. I have a vaporizer I'm going to try soon. As far as weed making you lazy, I experience that too, it depends on the kind of weed. Indica makes you lazy, but Sativa acts as a stimulant. I LOOOOOVE sativa, not a big Indica fan but since I live on the East coast not a lot of people have sativa and if they do it cost more. Cannabis works for me so well I'd like to move and get it medically, I'm only worried about the evil ATF denying me my right to own guys if they find out I get medical marijuana though if I can get it. I don't smoke to get high, I smoke because when I have weed it's the only time I feel normal. I have severe bipolar, ADHD and Aspergers, so I am always depressed, I can never focus too long on something and my social skills are not the best, but cannabis seems to fix all that and nothing I have ever tried and I've been on a lot of pills since I was 9, nothing else I've tried has worked.
DerickVonD
Well-known member
The study I read said it promotes both. There were two studies from two different colleges that claim this. If I'm able to find the studies again I'll post them. I can concentrate much better while stoned than I ever can sober, in fact I'd like to get some weed to help me get through my college home work.
Medical420
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scherbs said:
Just for argument sake. Formation happens when young and until early 20's. The post is regarding working out and toking. I do not support developing minds smoking weed. I can say I know a VP of a large company that has toked since 13 steady and makes mid 6 fig. So it CAN harm development, but I don't think it is always the case.
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pyrobatt
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This thing is still going on?I thought the tokers would be more chill about the issue.Anywhos...There's enough pull from both sides to steer me away.Some people say it helps in every way and then you have the extreme who say weed is evil.I say,with the lack of studies geared twords working out you will be our test subjects.There is a seeming endless ammount of studies on Marijuana but alot of them are ran by bias partys.I just can't justify putting something like that in my body.
Although there are plenty of people who do alot worse.Guys in my local gym seem to have a nose tork fetish.When they feel like they can't go anymore after a 2 hour long session they open the bottle and snort it like no other and go back to lifting.Stupid haha.
People also use cocain as a workout aid.
I use steroids which has health risk aswell.I've also used clen,ephedrine and enough pills to kill a mule.(was a supplement freak at one time no more though)
Hell some even work out completely drunk!If you can go home at night saying"I had a good work out and I'm making alot of gains.What I'm doing is working!" then you just keep on.At the end of the day thats what matters.
If you're looking for a "go ahead,hop on the canna-bus" nobody here can make that decision for you.
Although there are plenty of people who do alot worse.Guys in my local gym seem to have a nose tork fetish.When they feel like they can't go anymore after a 2 hour long session they open the bottle and snort it like no other and go back to lifting.Stupid haha.
People also use cocain as a workout aid.
I use steroids which has health risk aswell.I've also used clen,ephedrine and enough pills to kill a mule.(was a supplement freak at one time no more though)
Hell some even work out completely drunk!If you can go home at night saying"I had a good work out and I'm making alot of gains.What I'm doing is working!" then you just keep on.At the end of the day thats what matters.
If you're looking for a "go ahead,hop on the canna-bus" nobody here can make that decision for you.
epstaneman
Banned
Well there's a line.....and ON THIS SIDE OF IT.......WE SMOKE POT!
Mak'n all KINZZZZZZZZZZZ of gains. ALL KINDS!
My friend uses cocaine. I tell him....F-THAT! I'm on a better drug.....STEEEEEEEE-ROIDS! ha ha ha
Mak'n all KINZZZZZZZZZZZ of gains. ALL KINDS!
My friend uses cocaine. I tell him....F-THAT! I'm on a better drug.....STEEEEEEEE-ROIDS! ha ha ha
DerickVonD
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The only bad side effect I've experienced with cannabis is increased sex drive(to the point where its annoying because I'll start staring at women and it's blatantly obvious I'm staring lol) and increased hunger, but the hunger increase isn't too bad, if I know I got all my calories I can ignore the hunger.
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DerickVonD said:
Can't forget about the side effect that gets me the most. Feeling really focking awesome! I set a PR nearly every time I step into the gym now. I take one quick puff as leaving for the gym. Not much but enough to give me that rush and for me focus. That mixed with alphamine is in a league of its own!
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Nice. I use it to relax my muscles to push harder in the gym.
