m1,4add bridged into h-drol

2k1s said:
I haven't been on m1,4 for about 2 weeks now. Weird that I'm having such a hard time on just halodrol. I took a nap this afternoon, feeling infinitely better. Going on a late night bike ride so hopefully I'm dead tired by bed time.
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Oh, you're done with the m1,4? my fault, I must've missed the update.

Aite, good luck with the bike ride.
 
slept 7 hours last night. 9pm-4am. I feel amazing. destroyed my lats today. lifted with my 400 lbs samoan friend

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bi's/back

wide/narrow chins x 10 x 3
narrow grip pull ups x 10 x 3

tbar rows

135 x 10 x 2
180 x 10 x 2
225 x 10 x 2
270 x 5 x 1 (needed help)
225 x 10 x 1

wide grip bb curls

75 x 12 x 3

db curls

30/35/40/45 x 10

preacher curls

dead lifts

135 x 10 x 1
225 x 15 x 1
275 x 8 x 1
315 x 5 x 1
135 x 30 x 1

abs
 
2k1s said:
slept 7 hours last night. 9pm-4am. I feel amazing. destroyed my lats today. lifted with my 400 lbs samoan friend

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bi's/back

wide/narrow chins x 10 x 3
narrow grip pull ups x 10 x 3

tbar rows

135 x 10 x 2
180 x 10 x 2
225 x 10 x 2
270 x 5 x 1 (needed help)
225 x 10 x 1

wide grip bb curls

75 x 12 x 3

db curls

30/35/40/45 x 10

preacher curls

dead lifts

135 x 10 x 1
225 x 15 x 1
275 x 8 x 1
315 x 5 x 1
135 x 30 x 1

abs
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Damn nice rowing strength... How do you have energy for the deadlift after all that?
 
I've actually got pretty good stamina as far as lifting goes. I usually go over board on volume, been trying to limit it a lot during this cycle. But with 15/8/5 I usually pause part way through the set. I'll do 5, pause, do another 5 pause and finish off the set.
 
2k1s said:
I've actually got pretty good stamina as far as lifting goes. I usually go over board on volume, been trying to limit it a lot during this cycle. But with 15/8/5 I usually pause part way through the set. I'll do 5, pause, do another 5 pause and finish off the set.
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Interesting pauses... my pauses are pretty arbitrary... I just know I would not have enough energy to go all out on the deadlift if it was at the end. Cool stuff man.
 
sleep no longer an issue. I don't know why it was so rough or why it got better. I'm not taking anything to aid in my sleep either. I'm liking h-drol, strength gains are still there but if I had to do this cycle again I would choose epi over hdrol. This will be my final week, hoping to make it a productive one. I've been sore all weekend from friday's work out. My shoulder wasn't all there today, I feel like if that wasn't the case I would have been able to push harder

weight is down slightly to 203. I've leaned out some. I feel like I've hit a wall with my diet. I can't eat any more than what I'm eating with out eating dirty.

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chest/tris:

bb bench
135 x 10 x 2
205 x 6 x 1
225 x 6 x 1
255 x 6 x 1
275 x 5 x 1

db incline
55 x 15 x 1
75 x 8 x 1
100 x 5 x 1

cable flies on an incline bench

pec deck

skull crushers on an incline bench

ez curl bar with 35s x 10 x 4

tricep push downs

120 x 15 x 4

dips

abs

cardio
 
decided to shut it down today. I haven't been having good work outs and it just doesn't seem worth it. Starting pct tonight. Taking 100 mg of clomid and 20 mg nolva. Gonna give con cret a go. I got a tub of LG asgt but I think it tastes horrible... enough to the point where I don't want to drink it at all. I need something with more stims in it as well.

I'm hoping my appetite returns.

ending weight : 203.5, difference 18.9 lbs

I want to say about half of that is fat. I look leaner than I did 2 weeks ago when I came off of m1,4. At points I was about 210 lbs though so I should be looking leaner since my strength has gone up. I should also note that I weighed 162 lbs in february.

bench: went from 245 x 4 to 275 x 6
squats: i don't care(meaning I didn't try to go up) but now my quads are massive to the point that I just look imbalanced. I probably should see a trainer about it.
cleans: went from 185 x 4 to 205 x 5
deads: I can now comfortably lift 315 before it was ugly to even attempt it
military: I can db military 100 lbs db which was a goal of mine pre-cycle.

Would I do it again? Probably. I responded better to epistane both times I took it so that would be the only change. I noticed more dryness on h-drol than I did at the end of 30mg of epistane. In hindsight I think a lower dose of h-drol stacked with m1,4 for 5 weeks might have been more effective.

Guys I lift with have noticed that I put on weight. Only one of them knows what I actually was on. And I only told him because I know he has cycled to. I hate the mentality that pills not hard work made me gain 20 lbs.

I'll probably log the rest of my work outs through pct. I'm going to up the volume and switch to dbs for most exercises.
 
NICE WORK MANG!!! haha CEL FTW hahah 19lbs gotta love it booo yaaaa!
 
legs day. made me wanna puke but i like doing insane volume days every once and awhile.

bb deep squats

185 x 40 x 1
185 x 30 x 1
185 x 20 x 1
185 x 10 x 1

bb hack squats

185 x 40 x 1
185 x 30 x 1
185 x 20 x 1
185 x 10 x 1

cleans

95 x 40 x 1
95 x 30 x 1
115 x 20 x 1
115 x 10 x 1

db lunges the length of my gym and back x 4

cardio

abs

standing calf raises
180 x 40 x 4
 
2k1s said:
legs day. made me wanna puke but i like doing insane volume days every once and awhile.

bb deep squats

185 x 40 x 1
185 x 30 x 1
185 x 20 x 1
185 x 10 x 1

bb hack squats

185 x 40 x 1
185 x 30 x 1
185 x 20 x 1
185 x 10 x 1

cleans

95 x 40 x 1
95 x 30 x 1
115 x 20 x 1
115 x 10 x 1

db lunges the length of my gym and back x 4

cardio

abs

standing calf raises
180 x 40 x 4
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I think if tom platz were to see that workout even he'd be proud! :stickp4:
 
haha thanks. I felt like I was running through quick sand. My legs are gonna be sore as hell tomorrow.
 
2k1s said:
legs day. made me wanna puke but i like doing insane volume days every once and awhile.

bb deep squats

185 x 40 x 1
185 x 30 x 1
185 x 20 x 1
185 x 10 x 1

bb hack squats

185 x 40 x 1
185 x 30 x 1
185 x 20 x 1
185 x 10 x 1

cleans

95 x 40 x 1
95 x 30 x 1
115 x 20 x 1
115 x 10 x 1

db lunges the length of my gym and back x 4

cardio

abs

standing calf raises
180 x 40 x 4
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That right there makes u CRAZY in my book. Good sh1t man!
 
Tomahawk88 said:
That right there makes u CRAZY in my book. Good sh1t man!
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i've watched your deadlift video like 10 times in awe.

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usually don't do back on a shoulders day but my buddy wanted to. Last time I worked out with him I was sore for 4 days. I swear he is going to kill me one day.

Shoulders/back

Db military
25 x 10 x 2 each one handed
75 x 10 x 1
85 x 10 x 1
90 x 10 x 1
100 x 5 x 1, only got the first two by myself

bb behind the back military seated

95 x 10 x 5

t-bar rows
135 x 10 x 3
180 x 10 x 3

chins x 10 x 5

upright rows

105 x 10 x 4

front raises/side lateral superset

cardio

reverse crunches
 
Tomahawk88 said:
So that is y I have so many views lol. Thanks man it just seems to be something I can do.
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Ahhh Shiiii. . you have the perfect frame for PLin my friend. . .and some nasty cycles to getcha there as well muhahah :saeek:
 
chest

Haven't had a light day in like 7 weeks rofl. Oops. My weight is still at 205.0. Pretty happy about that.

BB bench

135 x 10 x 2
205 x 10 x 1
225 x 10 x 5

incline db flies

cable flies

decline strength hammer

90 x 10 x 5

standing bb military

135 x 10 x 5

db incline press

65 x 10 x 3
70 x 10 x 2
75 x 10 x 1

cardio
 
I can't remember my chest ever feeling this sore. Thinking about it there was no way I would have been able to do 225x10x5 before this cycle. I'm happy about that. Might try to do 235 x 10 x 4 next week. I'm going out of town for 3 days this weekend so I should be good to go next monday.

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back day

chins x failure x 5 so 18/15/8/8/6

strength hammer iso row

90 x 10 x 3
115 x 10 x 2

reverse grip lat pull downs

dead lifts

135 x 10 x 1
225 x 10 x 2
275 x 10 x 2

cardio

abs
 
weight still holding at 203 after week one of pct. I know I'm not eating as much as I should and I'm eating alot cleaner than when I was at the end of my cycle. Dosing clomid at 50mg and nolva at 20 mg.

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shoulders

warm up curl to arnold press

45 x 10 x 1
55 x 10 x 1

arnold press

70 x 10 x 1
75 x 10 x 1
80 x 10 x 1
85 x 9 x 1

db incline

75 x 10 x 1
85 x 10 x 1
95 x 10 x 1
70 x 20 x 1

shrugs

standing bb military

95 x 15 x 2
135 x 10 x 2
155 x 10 x 1

front raises

french press

tricep push down

jogged for 45 minutes.
 
back day. taking 3 days off. lifted with a partner today. he pushed me so hard I wanted to puke after about 10 minutes. I wish I was still on cycle

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t-bar rows (superset 1)
135 x 10 x 2
180 x 10 x 3
db croc rows (superset 1)
55 x 10 x 1
65 x 10 x 4
wide grip chins till failure (superset 1)

Upright rows (superset 2)
105 x 10 x 4
strength hammer iso row (superset 2)
135 x 10 x 3
90 x 12 x 1, pause 4 x 1
strength hammer iso low row (superset 2)
90 x 10 x 4

preacher curl (superset 3)
65 x 10 x 4
db concentration curl (superset 3)
30 x 10 x 4
hammer curls (superset 3)
35 x 10 x 4

jogged for 30 minutes.
 
2k1s said:
back day. taking 3 days off. lifted with a partner today. he pushed me so hard I wanted to puke after about 10 minutes. I wish I was still on cycle

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t-bar rows (superset 1)
135 x 10 x 2
180 x 10 x 3
db croc rows (superset 1)
55 x 10 x 1
65 x 10 x 4
wide grip chins till failure (superset 1)

Upright rows (superset 2)
105 x 10 x 4
strength hammer iso row (superset 2)
135 x 10 x 3
90 x 12 x 1, pause 4 x 1
strength hammer iso low row (superset 2)
90 x 10 x 4

preacher curl (superset 3)
65 x 10 x 4
db concentration curl (superset 3)
30 x 10 x 4
hammer curls (superset 3)
35 x 10 x 4

jogged for 30 minutes.
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Whats your weight at and how much of the str have you kept my friend? :ugh2: these things we must have updates on muhaha :afro: :banana:
 
I'm still sitting around 203. I go up as high as 206 and as low as 199. I seem to be just as strong now. My endurance is insane. I feel like I could work out again today.
 
ate like crap all weekend. oh well had fun in philly. oddly I lost 2 lbs eating 5 cheese steaks in 3 days. Weight is now at 201. Some girl at the gym today asked me if I was a marine haha.

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back/bis:

chins
15, 15, 10, 10
bent over bb rows
135 x 10 x 3
185 x 19 x 2
deadlifts
185 x 10 x 1
225 x 10 x 1
275 x 10 x 1
315 x 10 x 2
croc rows
65 x 10 x 1
70 x 10 x 1
75 x 10 x 1
80 x 10 x 1
ez curl bar curls
65 x 10 x 1
85 x 10 x 3
95 x 10 x 1
alternating standing curls
40,45,50,55 x 10

cardio
 
Haha I took care of most of the people who think Im in the military. Some not so smart people still ask and I just point to my hair.
 
Tomahawk88 said:
Haha I took care of most of the people who think Im in the military. Some not so smart people still ask and I just point to my hair.
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It doesn't help that I have a 0 blade buzz. I can't decide if thats a compliment or not. I just realized you're half asian. What mix are you? I'm japanese/korean/scottish.

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legs:

squats
185 x 10 x 1
275 x 8 x 1
315 x 6 x 1
365 x 4 x 1

lunges
185 x 10 x 3

power cleans
145 x 10 x 1
165 x 8 x 1
185 x 5 x 1

bb hack squats
185 x 10 x 1
225 x 10 x 1
275 x 10 x 1
315 x 6 x 1 (felt like I had to puke, but I totally could have gotten to 10 :crazy:)

hamstring curls

cardio

standing calf raises

abs
 
My mom is Chinese and my dad is white lol. Maybe I should ask one day for more of a breakdown than that but I doubt he will know for sure.

Oh and Im jealous u got some damn height to u lol.
 
I'm all torso. Sitting down I'm 6'3. My legs belong to someone thats 5'8. Makes for an interesting build.

oh yeah, a guy snapped an olympic bar deadlifting today. it was unreal. dude is massive though. His back is unreal.

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shoulders/tris/chest

only worked in chest b/c I had a crappy workout last time

arnolds

55 x 10 x 1
65 x 10 x 1
75 x 10 x 1

incline db

85 x 10 x 1
90 x 10 x 1
95 x 10 x 1
100 x 10 x 1

side laterals

rear delt db flies

over head tricep extensions

narrow grip bench

45 x 10 x 1
135 x 10 x 1
185 x 10 x 1
225 x 10 x 1
275 x 1 x 1

abs on decline bench
 
Lol how much was on the bar? Not going to lie Im a little scared that is going to happen to me while lifting at the FC. They dont exactly have the greatest bars.
 
Tomahawk88 said:
Lol how much was on the bar? Not going to lie Im a little scared that is going to happen to me while lifting at the FC. They dont exactly have the greatest bars.
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585 but I'm pretty sure the bar was bent before it snapped. I'll try to get a pic of it if it is still there tomorrow.
 
weight: 199. I think I lost mostly fat. I'm still up 15 lbs and I'm almost as lean as I was at the beginning of this cycle.

I haven't lost much strength at all. My recovery time sucks now though. I've been sore all day. I'm surprised I'm still this strong after 2.5 weeks of pct.
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light legs day

bb squats
225 x 10 x 5
power cleans
135 x 12 x 5
bb hack squats
225 x 12 x 6

biked for 35 miles. I'm pooped.
 
really pissed but yesterday I tweaked my back riding my bike. I was climbing a hill and I got out of the saddle to push down and it just popped. I won't be lifting or doing cardio for the rest of the week... depending on how my back heals.
 
got back to lifting the past few days. My body has liked my time off from the gym but my endurance is WAY down. My weight is still hovering around 200 lbs. I'm pretty impressed that I was able to hold onto most of the weight I gained since I was 160 8 months ago. My final day of pct will be on tuesday.
 
Nice work 2k1 that is how you keep hard gains my friend!! that newly found muscle needs to be put to use not for show :fing02: muhaha
 
What is a Good Post Cycle for MI, 4ADD?

I just purchased MI, 4ADD (Competitve Labs) and would like to include MI, 4ADD with Decavol UTT (Advanced Muscle Science), and Super Drol. I have Milk Thistle supplements, Livercare by Himalaya, and Arimidex (by BPI). I want to use it for 3 weeks before I go on a Post cycle for 3 weeks, then take another 3 weeks off before returning on my next prohormone cycle? Is that safe enough? What other post cycle supplements would you recommend for a stack, including MI, 4ADD?
 
EDDIE C. said:
I just purchased MI, 4ADD (Competitve Labs) and would like to include MI, 4ADD with Decavol UTT (Advanced Muscle Science), and Super Drol. I have Milk Thistle supplements, Livercare by Himalaya, and Arimidex (by BPI). I want to use it for 3 weeks before I go on a Post cycle for 3 weeks, then take another 3 weeks off before returning on my next prohormone cycle? Is that safe enough? What other post cycle supplements would you recommend for a stack, including MI, 4ADD?
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You should post this in the Competitive Edge Labs section. . .i will tell you that when running m1,4add that you will want to stack it with a different class of AS/AAS. . . there is no need to stack dbol with superdrol. . to potent liver toxic AS's and the sides won't out weight the gains. . . IMO. . .if you do m14add you can do hdrol/tren/eqplex (if you can find it), estane. . .but for your m14add stack you will want to make sure you have a solid AI. . and a great pct lined up. . .first a foremost. . .post this question in the C.E.L. section and we can speak further about this :think:
 
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