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Kleen or anyone familiar with abliderate, should I be applying the abliderate multiple times daily? Also I'm in no hurry but how long before you noticed the product started to work?
LTL is crushing his fellow transformer's!
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Valdez said:
Lmao wtf! So that's what they mean by your core???
howwedo107
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Damn a whole week into pct already wow bro feels like yesterday I was checking out the starting pics lol you came such a long way dude just think your ending pics will be your new starting pics before you know it 
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howwedo107 said:Damn a whole week into pct already wow bro feels like yesterday I was checking out the starting pics lol you came such a long way dude just think your ending pics will be your new starting pics before you know it
Couldn't agree more LTL man!!! A brother from diff parents. A ****in beast
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howwedo107 said:Damn a whole week into pct already wow bro feels like yesterday I was checking out the starting pics lol you came such a long way dude just think your ending pics will be your new starting pics before you know it
Hell ya man! It's been a hell of a ride and I'm going into pct beasting so this should be awesome. My refuse to fail attitude is still with me and I think I'm just getting started.
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Airborne42 said:
Thanks bro! ;-)
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So never really got a solid answer on the abliderate so at any time if someone has some input that would be awesome!
Update on a few things here. Dreams have been crazy, and nolva is giving me some weird sides that I'm not used to. Had a very vivid dream of my grandma that past a short time ago and woke up feeling like a focking baby. I guess I can expect this type of stuff happening being it happened so recently but damn man its so unlike me to feel like that. I've been having like three solid full length dreams a night and I can almost remember everything about them. I normally very rarely have dreams let alone multiple in a night. I haven't minded it until last night though.
Other then that I feel pretty good got out of work about an hour and a half earlier then normal this morning so I was able to get around a few hours earlier today. I will be hitting chest after finishing breakfast and having my morning coffee. Ready to keep the momentum in full swing today boys! Lets kill it!
Update on a few things here. Dreams have been crazy, and nolva is giving me some weird sides that I'm not used to. Had a very vivid dream of my grandma that past a short time ago and woke up feeling like a focking baby. I guess I can expect this type of stuff happening being it happened so recently but damn man its so unlike me to feel like that. I've been having like three solid full length dreams a night and I can almost remember everything about them. I normally very rarely have dreams let alone multiple in a night. I haven't minded it until last night though.
Other then that I feel pretty good got out of work about an hour and a half earlier then normal this morning so I was able to get around a few hours earlier today. I will be hitting chest after finishing breakfast and having my morning coffee. Ready to keep the momentum in full swing today boys! Lets kill it!
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Pct day 8
Weight 165.5 (+1)
Chest/tris/cardio/abs
Bench
1x3 185
1x8 210
1x6 215
1x7 195
1x6 185
Incline press
1x6 175
1x8 165
1x7 160
Close grip bench
2x8 135
1x6 135
Vbar pull down
1x11 77.5
1x11 82.5
1x10 87.5
1x7 90
1x8 82.5 drop to 70 for 6
Cable flys
2x8 22.5
1x8 25
1x9 27.5
1x8 27.5
Wide hammer press (WPA)
1x9 95
1x9 100
1x8 105
1x8 95
15 mins elliptical for 175 cals
20 mins of ab/oblique training
Felt incredible overall today! Strength was up a bit on a few lifts but felt a little weaker on others. The pump today blew my mind though for being a week into PCT! A guy I work with is going to hit chest with me next week so we can go for maxes so that should be real interesting. May get a chance to take pics tonight, of not they'll be up tomorrow. Thought about taking them both days and them picking the best.
Weight 165.5 (+1)
Chest/tris/cardio/abs
Bench
1x3 185
1x8 210
1x6 215
1x7 195
1x6 185
Incline press
1x6 175
1x8 165
1x7 160
Close grip bench
2x8 135
1x6 135
Vbar pull down
1x11 77.5
1x11 82.5
1x10 87.5
1x7 90
1x8 82.5 drop to 70 for 6
Cable flys
2x8 22.5
1x8 25
1x9 27.5
1x8 27.5
Wide hammer press (WPA)
1x9 95
1x9 100
1x8 105
1x8 95
15 mins elliptical for 175 cals
20 mins of ab/oblique training
Felt incredible overall today! Strength was up a bit on a few lifts but felt a little weaker on others. The pump today blew my mind though for being a week into PCT! A guy I work with is going to hit chest with me next week so we can go for maxes so that should be real interesting. May get a chance to take pics tonight, of not they'll be up tomorrow. Thought about taking them both days and them picking the best.
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LiveToLift said:
Lifts looking strong as always bro!!! It's good that your strength still going up...that mean you doing everything great...just keep killing like this bro :thumbsup:
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Thanks bro! I appreciate it bud. Odd that it's just a one pound difference in the end but man I can see the difference too!
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Final pics, not too bad for an 8 week transformation if you ask me! ;-) Let me remind you these are 9 days into pct too...
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Final pics, not too bad for an 8 week transformation if you ask me! ;-) Let me remind you these are 9 days into pct too...
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abs are washing out a bit but god damn you made some serious gains bro. arms look almost an inch bigger and your back is sick. looks like your quads have grown a bit too. over all man, you fuggin' killed it.
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Thanks bro, yea the abs washing out was semi on purpose. I get scared in the first week of pct of losing too much weight so I get a lot of cals in on purpose. Tried to dry out as much as I could yesterday but ended up looking a bit wet but the biceps were looking incredible so I kind of traded one for the other. I wish I could have taken the pics I took while I was on but that wouldn't be fair as this was an 8 week competition. Honestly this is the most successful cycle I have done so far and I think we all won so I couldn't be happier! Thank you for your support and feedback!
punjabimunde
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Dam bro looking ripped and vascular as fack!!! You did really good and worked really hard in these 8weeks bro...your body totally changed in these 8weeks...can't believe you can progress this much in such short amount of time...really inspire as all bro...keep up the good work my friend!!!
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Dam bro looking ripped and vascular as fack!!! You did really good and worked really hard in these 8weeks bro...your body totally changed in these 8weeks...can't believe you can progress this much in such short amount of time...really inspire as all bro...keep up the good work my friend!!!
Thank you bro! Thanks for supporting me through this epic run buddy! It's been fun and I learned a lot with all the great minds following.
punjabimunde
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LiveToLift said:
Definitely was fun following you bro and get to learn something new every day...we need to do this again sometime soon...
TurningGreen
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Well done bro, you definitely worked your a$$ off and it paid off. Excellent transformation!
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punjabimunde said:
I agree, we would push each other like crazy if we were in competition together!
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TurningGreen said:
Thanks bro! It's been fun! Definitely gave it my all even with the flu and for these pics being second week pct I'm happy and proud!
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Best transformation for sure
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Airborne42 said:
Thanks bro!
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ScottyDoc said:
Thanks Al! It's been fun and hope we do it again! ;-)
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breezy11 said:
Thanks bro! It's been awesome having you follow and push me!
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PCT Day 9
Weight 165 (+.5)
Bis/cardio
Preacher curls
1x8 85
1x7 90
1x7 95 (PR by a rep)
1x7 85
Incline db curls
3x8 40
Reverse bar curls
3x8 60
Close grip pull up
1x15 BW
1x12 BW
High cable curls
1x9 20
1x8 22.5
1x10 22.5
1x8 25
Incline speed walk 22 mins for 250 cals
Weight 165 (+.5)
Bis/cardio
Preacher curls
1x8 85
1x7 90
1x7 95 (PR by a rep)
1x7 85
Incline db curls
3x8 40
Reverse bar curls
3x8 60
Close grip pull up
1x15 BW
1x12 BW
High cable curls
1x9 20
1x8 22.5
1x10 22.5
1x8 25
Incline speed walk 22 mins for 250 cals
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Final pics, not too bad for an 8 week transformation if you ask me! ;-) Let me remind you these are 9 days into pct too...
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SEEMS LEGIT.
howwedo107
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Awesome final pics dude!!! Look like a P90x infomercial on steroids haha I was talking to my girl today and said "hm I wonder if LTL put up new pics yet?" she looked at me like wtf is he talking about haha awesome job tho dude huge change in the back for sure!!!
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howwedo107 said:
Lmao thanks for the compliment bro! Glad I'm a household topic... Lmao it's been great having your encouragement bro! Now kill it in your comp like I know you will!
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I completely agree bro! That's was the goal too, gain muscle while keeping same or less bf and I think it was a success. Thanks for sticking around for the madness!
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Valdez said:
Feeling pretty good! That .5 is total bro. Haha I never reset it.
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Valdez said:
Only side I've noticed is feeling alpha as Fock.. ;-) no this run has been pretty clean man I have a good way of scraping by with minimal sides.
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LiveToLift said:
That's sooooooo fücking hott!!!
Hell yea my man! Them pics you put up show a different man altogether brother. A lot of people can talk shít and say I've gained this and that but the proof is in the pics and there's no arguing with those pics Cuz if you do... THEY'LL GET MAD AND EAT YOUR FACE!!!
See bro your pics are starting fights now ^^^ Alpha...
Disclaimer: just got back from gym aggression is to be expected
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Valdez said:
Haha!
Good sh1t bro! Now smash a bada$$ post workout meal! Low carb day for me so I'm starving!
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Valdez said:
<3 mixed nuts- favorite binge food hah
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Don't get me wrong l love me some mixed nuts but they are just so expensive calorie wise and I never get to eat as much as I want of them, kind of frustrating...
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lol yah you get x cals and nuts can eat that up fast...
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DreamWeaver said:
That's why I plan when I wanna eat them.. Then just run it off the next day lol
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Yah I've done that... funny since I have been on lean gains I run my diet like a budget and try to pick foods that will satiate me more... I hate going hungry and I have a big appetite...
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I think the Abliderate should be taken 2 quarter size squirts best time after a shower when pores are open. Mine was regular abliderate not the new advanced but still. Also the smell wears off very quickly and no one notices it after 5-10 minutes. Once you put your shirt on over it no worries.
As far as how long until you notice it well you are taking it to control cortisol not for fat loss. Granted you may acheive some fat loss although I truly hope that is not your focus in PCT since it is always a bad idea to cut in PCT unless running peptides or something else that keep your muscle. Since using it to control the cortisol spike that is due sometime in the next week then you will notice in the next week or two when you don't start losing muscle mass that quickly.
Don't get too excited about PCT going well in that first week to two weeks. It is very common for people to feel great and still hit PR's in the first or second week of PCT, but then the body freaks the hell out over the low androgen levels and sends an emergency signal to produce cortisol at a rapid rate. This is when your muscle loss is at it's highest and you can easily eat up most of your new muscle if cortisol goes unchecked. So you may get a little leaner but you should be eating for maintenance or to bulk a little more in order to not lose any of that precious new muscle.
As far as how long until you notice it well you are taking it to control cortisol not for fat loss. Granted you may acheive some fat loss although I truly hope that is not your focus in PCT since it is always a bad idea to cut in PCT unless running peptides or something else that keep your muscle. Since using it to control the cortisol spike that is due sometime in the next week then you will notice in the next week or two when you don't start losing muscle mass that quickly.
Don't get too excited about PCT going well in that first week to two weeks. It is very common for people to feel great and still hit PR's in the first or second week of PCT, but then the body freaks the hell out over the low androgen levels and sends an emergency signal to produce cortisol at a rapid rate. This is when your muscle loss is at it's highest and you can easily eat up most of your new muscle if cortisol goes unchecked. So you may get a little leaner but you should be eating for maintenance or to bulk a little more in order to not lose any of that precious new muscle.