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Limited Run of Epi Strong!

illriginalize said:
Bro I swear.. Epi is just.. godly. You can easily gain size with Epi, you just need to destroy mounds of food and hit the gym as hard as possible (without risking injury of course). At first I started with just 3k calories, but by the 2~3 week I bumped it to 3600 calories and that's when I blew up and it felt great. Nonetheless I'm most definitely happy I got to keep some weight gain (and veins are looking much thicker as well, especially in my biceps, legs, and forearms), and especially the strength, I was so scared I was gonna fail on chest yesterday and back today.. but all is good :D
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Strength was crazy for me when I ran it
 
RickRock13 said:
Diesel will be ran at 3 caps a day for the entire 4 weeks. Epi-strong will be ran 0/0/30/45/45/60 and Transaderm will be 5 pumps per day the entire cycle. I will hope to add 7-10 lean lbs with no fat gain.
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Going to be doing some cardio? Or just eating super clean?
 
I just checked and the Limited Edition of Epi-Strong is still available for anyone who is still interested in getting some..SJ
 
TheDarkHalf said:
Going to be doing some cardio? Or just eating super clean?
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I will still be doing IF/Lean gains with 3 lower cal and carb burn days (2 of them will be cardio days) so hopefully that will keep bodyfat at bay while I take in around 3500 Cal's on workout days
 
RickRock13 said:
I will still be doing IF/Lean gains with 3 lower cal and carb burn days (2 of them will be cardio days) so hopefully that will keep bodyfat at bay while I take in around 3500 Cal's on workout days
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Pure win! Keto style with IF = godlyOn cycle I was eating whenever, not fasting other than during sleep. On week 4 and 5 I did IF.
 
RickRock13 said:
I will still be doing IF/Lean gains with 3 lower cal and carb burn days (2 of them will be cardio days) so hopefully that will keep bodyfat at bay while I take in around 3500 Cal's on workout days
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Hey Rick, what does an average day on the lean gains diet look for you. Please include the times on average you eat and the supps you are using, ie, protein etc. Of course, whenever you get a chance to get back to me. Thank you..SJ
 
SuppJunkie said:
Hey Rick, what does an average day on the lean gains diet look for you. Please include the times on average you eat and the supps you are using, ie, protein etc. Of course, whenever you get a chance to get back to me. Thank you..SJ
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I just fast for 15 hours. Sleep hours are part of the fasting. I personally like to go to bed with a full stomach... so my last meal is at 8~8:30PM, which is where fasting begins. Wake up in the morning, fast til 12PM, eat a massive meal (typically within 1k calories), then eat again at 4PM, go to the gym @ 6PM, then eat my last meal right after gym when I get home (8~8:30pm). Rinse / repeat.

It's a great eating habit for recomp.
 
illriginalize said:
I just fast for 15 hours. Sleep hours are part of the fasting. I personally like to go to bed with a full stomach... so my last meal is at 8~8:30PM, which is where fasting begins. Wake up in the morning, fast til 12PM, eat a massive meal (typically within 1k calories), then eat again at 4PM, go to the gym @ 6PM, then eat my last meal right after gym when I get home (8~8:30pm). Rinse / repeat.

It's a great eating habit for recomp.
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interesting diet, maybe il give it a shot
 
Rick you need to get back on a bulking diet and beef up now your so damn lean lol... You would blow the **** up on Diesel... You just gotta feed that ****. FTS!!!!
 
BarbellBeast said:
Rick you need to get back on a bulking diet and beef up now your so damn lean lol... You would blow the **** up on Diesel... You just gotta feed that ****. FTS!!!!
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I will be feeding it plenty buddy. The difference is I'm not going all out bulk mode just to have to cut bigtime next spring. I am hoping to come out of the winter about 15 lbs heavier but around the same bodyfat ;)

I'm going to stay the course on lean gains. Its done nothing but good for me so far. I'm leaner and stronger with more LBM than ever. Just switching it to lean bulk....and I stress lean! My ABS will not be leaving me for Christmas!
 
SuppJunkie said:
Hey Rick, what does an average day on the lean gains diet look for you. Please include the times on average you eat and the supps you are using, ie, protein etc. Of course, whenever you get a chance to get back to me. Thank you..SJ
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My diet is split into burn days and build days. We call them that because that is what your goal is for that day.

Build days (Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday) are around 3k Cal's with 250-300g carbs, >250g protein. These are also the days all my weight training is done.

Burn days (Tuesday, Thursday, Sunday) are at a Max of 1800 Cal's with <50g carbs and I aim for 200g protein. Tuesdays and Thursdays are cardio days where Sunday is a rest day.

I have gained 2 lbs in the last 6 weeks and bodyfat has dropped a Tad and the stack i used is Formastanozol, DAA, Bridge, and AnaBeta.

Once my Diesel/Epi-strong cycle starts the only changes will be adding in 300-500 Cal's to each day putting me around 2k burn days and 3500 on build days :sgrin:
 
RickRock13 said:
I will be feeding it plenty buddy. The difference is I'm not going all out bulk mode just to have to cut bigtime next spring. I am hoping to come out of the winter about 15 lbs heavier but around the same bodyfat ;)

I'm going to stay the course on lean gains. Its done nothing but good for me so far. I'm leaner and stronger with more LBM than ever. Just switching it to lean bulk....and I stress lean! My ABS will not be leaving me for Christmas!
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I hear ya there bro. Do what works for ya!
 
BarbellBeast said:
I hear ya there bro. Do what works for ya!
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Yeh man, I can't argue with how its been so far. Bulking on lean gains is something new to me though. But if it goes like I think it will, then I will be able to stay on lean gains year round. My upcoming cycle of Diesel/Epi-strong will tell me a lot!
 
RickRock13 said:
Yeh man, I can't argue with how its been so far. Bulking on lean gains is something new to me though. But if it goes like I think it will, then I will be able to stay on lean gains year round. My upcoming cycle of Diesel/Epi-strong will tell me a lot!
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Definitely going with a strict lean gains diet on my next run as well :p
 
Everyone has, it's the new thing to do. I was thinking of doing a epi/trenazone cycle for my next cycle and have been researching a lot but the more I read the more I just wanna run my epi-strong as the standalone product.
 
bought one bottle of Epi strong at 52 bucks and just bought two more plus 2 bottles of transderm! how many servings does the transderm have and how many servings a day do you use? i am going to be doing a 6 week epi run at 30/30/45/45/45/45 will on e bottle of trans last me that? my next cycle might be epi strong and androhard or if something else is out by PP non methyl maybe that.
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
bought one bottle of Epi strong at 52 bucks and just bought two more plus 2 bottles of transderm! how many servings does the transderm have and how many servings a day do you use? i am going to be doing a 6 week epi run at 30/30/45/45/45/45 will on e bottle of trans last me that? my next cycle might be epi strong and androhard or if something else is out by PP non methyl maybe that.
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One bottle of Transaderm is 60 servings. One serving a day is all you need and is 5 pumps. So one bottle will more than cover your cycle since it lasts a full 60 days ;)
 
RickRock13 said:
One bottle of Transaderm is 60 servings. One serving a day is all you need and is 5 pumps. So one bottle will more than cover your cycle since it lasts a full 60 days ;)
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wow thanks, i am so happy right now! any benefit on dosing it higher? if i were to do 6 weeks of epi any benifit on dosing it maybe a week or two eariler than the epi for a total of 7 weeks?
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
wow thanks, i am so happy right now! any benefit on dosing it higher? if i were to do 6 weeks of epi any benifit on dosing it maybe a week or two eariler than the epi for a total of 7 weeks?
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I think so, nothing crazy but the more total time you are ON or have above nomal T you will be able to burn more fat and build more muscle. If you did 4 pumps a day the bottle would last 75 days. Do that and start the transderm 15 days early, than epi for 6wks. should produce good results.
 
gymrat827 said:
I think so, nothing crazy but the more total time you are ON or have above nomal T you will be able to burn more fat and build more muscle. If you did 4 pumps a day the bottle would last 75 days. Do that and start the transderm 15 days early, than epi for 6wks. should produce good results.
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thanks man
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
bought one bottle of Epi strong at 52 bucks and just bought two more plus 2 bottles of transderm! how many servings does the transderm have and how many servings a day do you use? i am going to be doing a 6 week epi run at 30/30/45/45/45/45 will on e bottle of trans last me that? my next cycle might be epi strong and androhard or if something else is out by PP non methyl maybe that.
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if im not mistaken, its 60 servings, and 5 pumps every morning after you shower( i shower at night and apply upon wake up) it dries pretty quick about 20 seconds IMO. easily washes off too. im tempted to buy some more epi-strong aswell :) hehehe

*you had responses already, lol this right here shows how fast the internet in afghanistan really is haha*
 
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jon.p said:
if im not mistaken, its 60 servings, and 5 pumps every morning after you shower( i shower at night and apply upon wake up) it dries pretty quick about 20 seconds IMO. easily washes off too. im tempted to buy some more epi-strong aswell :) hehehe

*you had responses already, lol this right here shows how fast the internet in afghanistan really is haha*
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no worries man! awesome for my 6 week run i will start Transderm 2 weeks before my epi run. so stoked i bought 3 epi's and two transaderms! i also have a bottle of D zine,, two bottles of Tren Xtreme from ACL, 1 bottle of clomid, 1 big bottle of Torem, 2/3 bottle of letro, 1 bottle of nolva, and two bottles of Fromestane and 1 erase. ! most of my next few cycles are covered besides support supps and some DAA and other testboosters.
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
no worries man! awesome for my 6 week run i will start Transderm 2 weeks before my epi run. so stoked i bought 3 epi's and two transaderms! i also have a bottle of D zine,, two bottles of Tren Xtreme from ACL, 1 bottle of clomid, 1 big bottle of Torem, 2/3 bottle of letro, 1 bottle of nolva, and two bottles of Fromestane and 1 erase. ! most of my next few cycles are covered besides support supps and some DAA and other testboosters.
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Sounds like you are prepared for a good cycle. Epi-strong and Transaderm should be NICE! :sgrin:
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yah my first run of EPI, I used the original and gained significantly...
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Epi-strong was my first cycle and it was purely EPIC!! :sgrin:
 
my very first cycle was American Cellular Labs HMG (Epi) I did 20/30/30/30 with a big OTC PCT and felt fine i gianed 11 pounds but only kept 6. it was worth it to get my feet wet and really get an idea of how things work and made me do much more research. I have since ran two much bigger cycles in the last 2 years.

Cant wait to try Epi at highdose with a solid test base.
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
my very first cycle was American Cellular Labs HMG (Epi) I did 20/30/30/30 with a big OTC PCT and felt fine i gianed 11 pounds but only kept 6. it was worth it to get my feet wet and really get an idea of how things work and made me do much more research. I have since ran two much bigger cycles in the last 2 years.

Cant wait to try Epi at highdose with a solid test base.
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this looks like a solid plan
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
I will Be trying out Torem for the first time, DAA and Formestane for the 2nd time each but never together.
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Torem is a good serm IMO. Looks like your gonna have a great cycle. :)
 
EPi-Strong + Transaderm = Size and Lean Mass!!

I am going to be running this exact cycle down the road with the addition of Katanav2. I will def log it here as well as on the home site..

For those interested, I just checked and both of these products (Epi-Strong and Transaderm) are still in stock..

Have a good day..SJ
 
SuppJunkie said:
EPi-Strong + Transaderm = Size and Lean Mass!!

I am going to be running this exact cycle down the road with the addition of Katanav2. I will def log it here as well as on the home site..

For those interested, I just checked and both of these products (Epi-Strong and Transaderm) are still in stock..

Have a good day..SJ
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That sounds like a great cycle SJ! I'm running that same combo next spring/summer when I do another recomp.
 
SuppJunkie said:
EPi-Strong + Transaderm = Size and Lean Mass!!

I am going to be running this exact cycle down the road with the addition of Katanav2. I will def log it here as well as on the home site..

For those interested, I just checked and both of these products (Epi-Strong and Transaderm) are still in stock..

Have a good day..SJ
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Maybe I should do the epi transaderm when I do my next cycle
 
BarbellBeast said:
Gotta stack the Transaderm with PH's.. Unless ur running test :D
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Yep....a test base makes a hell of a difference on orals ;)
 
illriginalize said:
LOL Torem tastes like ass. Make sure to drink like 2-3 cups of water after ingesting Torem. Also one 30ml bottle isn't enough for 4 weeks.
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I have a 60ml bottle and its 50mg/ML : ) and yeah it tastes bad, my clomid tasted terrible too. My Nolva once didnt taste bad.

EDIT: check that, its 70ml! I think I may do 90/90/60/60/30 on Torem. what do you think after a 6 week Epi run at 45mg with trans.
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
I have a 60ml bottle and its 50mg/ML : ) and yeah it tastes bad, my clomid tasted terrible too. My Nolva once didnt taste bad.

EDIT: check that, its 70ml! I think I may do 90/90/60/60/30 on Torem. what do you think after a 6 week Epi run at 45mg with trans.
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Hmm I don't know how suppressive epi is. But 4 weeks was more than enough to get me back on track after androhard. Though AH is very unsuppressive.

Interested for the answer.
 
mattrag said:
Hmm I don't know how suppressive epi is. But 4 weeks was more than enough to get me back on track after androhard. Though AH is very unsuppressive.

Interested for the answer.
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EPI can be very suppressive depending on dose and length of cycle.

If you run a high dose at 6 weeks, you can pretty much count on being shutdown pretty good.

I have zero experience with Torem, so I am not sure of the dosing for it.
 
RickRock13 said:
EPI can be very suppressive depending on dose and length of cycle.

If you run a high dose at 6 weeks, you can pretty much count on being shutdown pretty good.

I have zero experience with Torem, so I am not sure of the dosing for it.
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If you have an extensive herbal PCT then you can run Tor at around 60 ed...
 
RickRock13 said:
EPI can be very suppressive depending on dose and length of cycle.

If you run a high dose at 6 weeks, you can pretty much count on being shutdown pretty good.

I have zero experience with Torem, so I am not sure of the dosing for it.
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What's your suggested SERM (if you dont mind) for EPI?
 
Clomid is my SERM of choice.....all the studies I've read show it to be better than nolva. However, you could probably get away with not needing a serm on Epi. It is anti-estrogenic and acts like a serm. But if you want to err on the safe side; then i recommend dosing clomid at 25/25/25/25
 
TheDarkHalf said:
Clomid is my SERM of choice.....all the studies I've read show it to be better than nolva. However, you could probably get away with not needing a serm on Epi. It is anti-estrogenic and acts like a serm. But if you want to err on the safe side; then i recommend dosing clomid at 25/25/25/25
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You tried running Torem?
 
mattrag said:
What's your suggested SERM (if you dont mind) for EPI?
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I'm a Clomid Guy mostly, but I have used Nolva with great recovery too. Just seems that Clomid might get the boys up a little quicker.
 
RickRock13 said:
I'm a Clomid Guy mostly, but I have used Nolva with great recovery too. Just seems that Clomid might get the boys up a little quicker.
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now that explains why you were crying on my shoulders all those times

haha i'm a clomid guy as well, just dont' run it too high, some ppl get emotional on it
 
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