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Just finished H DROL my test levels are DOWN!!!!

Cantell

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Look at em, and tell me what you think! Im 3 week into PCT using Nolvadex


MINE: Before Cycle

Testosterone: 625
SHBC: 31
Testosterone Free: 126
Testosterone % free: 2.0


AFTER cycle:

Testosterone: 220
SHBC: 10
Testosterone free: 80
Testosterone % free 2.6





DOCTOR RANGES:

400-1080
11-80
47-244
1.6-2.9


MY cycle was this....

Hdrol

50-50-75-75-75-75
cycle support



PCT
Nolvadex 20-20-10-10
Cycle support
 
get a natty test booster real quick man.. i wish i did that on my last cycle, i couldnt get it up for 2-3 weeks. embarrassing to say the least. I'm trying diesel test procycle for my next pct. Anything along those lines should work
 
Its called PCT!!!!! Just be happy you didnt run something like m1t and you testlevel would be single digit. You should read "stupid peoples guide to pct"(not calling you stupid even though it is a bit)

Would be intresting to hear how you did your cycle? Doses,, support supps etc etc

Z

Ps. The fact that your free test increased is just because the steroids compete with binding to transport-proteins like SHBG and albumine
 
I added more info to the post so look at it again!

Also, break it down for me what "free test" is and why mine is up?
 
Three words. POST CYCLE THERAPY! Cmon dude. Its so easy to look up stuff on here. I hope this teaches you a lesson on having everything ready before you even start a cycle.
Im sick of seeing all these noobs posting up S*** on "i have no test!" or "i cant get it up! help!"
Im not saying anything about what you need to do. You can look it up or even look at all the other posts that have done the same stupid S***.
 
I did PCT, do you not see it?

Nolvadex, cycle support, and I have started a natty test booster even tho I think they are BS.
 
Ok im sorry computer was acting up, or comp must not have finished loading. Normally after running a cycle it takes a while till you get your nat test back up. If anything i would just stick to a natural test booster to get things rearing again. With pct did you have naty support blood pressure support liver support cholesterol support etc.? Atleast you covered yourself on the nolva, which you are the few. You should be fine i would not worry about it. If you want i would just have your docter keep an eye on it and it should be fine. But make sure to get a naty test booster (trib for example).

Edit: Ok i see you had cycle support. NVM.
 
I keep seeing studys that show Natty test boosters do NOT work. There no better than a multi vitamin!

SO, I dont know what to do.
 
Cantell said:
I keep seeing studys that show Natty test boosters do NOT work. There no better than a multi vitamin!

SO, I dont know what to do.
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i am currently taking sustain alpha and i feel great. coming off a 14 week cycle. for what it's worth
 
lennoxchi said:
i am currently taking sustain alpha and i feel great. coming off a 14 week cycle. for what it's worth
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what else? Im on SA 3on/3off:)



OP, chill out.........
Get yourself a multi(animal pak is a good one), a test booster and get in the gym and do some compound lifts......squats and deads......

your nuts will come back....... 5 or 6 weeks of hdrol isnt going to shut you down forever.......

low dose of clomid would help as well...

dont let the mind over matter kill your libido.
 
Sorry to hear what you are going through.

Do you want some TestoPRO

We would be happy to send you some for free


EDIT: I didn't see you are already using a test booster nevermind.
 
damn, i just noticed your only in week 3 pct.....

give your test an equal amount of time to come back......

jeez...... louise:)
 
Im in the same boat bro. I was dumb and took Sdrol without a "proper" PCT. My test levels are about the same as yours now, and thats with about a full month of recovering.

I went to my endocrinologist and I've been informed to take nothing hormonal and let my body recover on its own. Since Ive stopped, my libido has been slowly slowly increasing. And the small bit of gyno I have is actually getting even smaller :)


My test levels should naturally return to normal, correct? *sorry if this is a dumb question*


And this is a noob question, but a natural test booster still requires a PCT when you're done or is a natural test booster safe in every way? *sorry if this is a dumb question*
 
Maybe not normal but your test will increase to almost normal state. Another one not running a proper pct...... We all think we are superman.
 
And no a natural test booster does not require a pct........... But everyone says "there is no such thing as a stupid question"....... Herbs are not hormonal. Which is what a natty test booster is, unless its a fake product.
 
madds87 said:
And no a natural test booster does not require a pct........... But everyone says "there is no such thing as a stupid question"....... Herbs are not hormonal. Which is what a natty test booster is, unless its a fake product.
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So since my body may not return to its fully normal state, then should I sometime down the road take a herbal test booster to try and bring me back to that state of normality?
 
MadeInCanada said:
So since my body may not return to its fully normal state, then should I sometime down the road take a herbal test booster to try and bring me back to that state of normality?
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relax man.........your young.........

keep hitting the gym, eat right, get your good fats and see what the endo says after the next bloodtest..........

one thing is for sure-

I can guarantee stress and worry will not bring up your test levels........hint hint.........
 
Kristofer68SS said:
relax man.........your young.........

keep hitting the gym, eat right, get your good fats and see what the endo says after the next bloodtest..........

one thing is for sure-

I can guarantee stress and worry will not bring up your test levels........hint hint.........
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Sorry, haha your right. Maybe I need to relax.

I get insanely paranoid and worried that my ding dong is never going to be at maximum capacity again. I need my sword. lol



One things for sure. Ill never touch a prohormone again in my lifetime.
 
MadeInCanada said:
Sorry, haha your right. Maybe I need to relax.

I get insanely paranoid and worried that my ding dong is never going to be at maximum capacity again. I need my sword. lol



One things for sure. Ill never touch a prohormone again in my lifetime.
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give it time, your body will bounce back...........

deads and squats in the meantime...........:)
 
I would say that your total testosterone levels are pretty low considering you are in your third week of pct. I'm not sure why everyone is saying that your blood work looks fine, because your current total testosterone is about one third of your baseline! Yes, endogenous testosterone suppression is to be expected with administration of androgens, but your HPTA should be recovering much better than it appears to be.

It simply appears as though you were not aggressive enough with your post cycle therapy. Two weeks of tamoxifen citrate at 20mg per day is fairly conservative.

You said that you are in your third week of pct, so I'm assuming that you are currently taking 10mg of tamoxifen. I would advise that you increase your dosage to 40mg for at least the next week. From there, I would recommend that you taper your dosage by 10mg each week. It would be ideal if you could get more blood work after you have tapered down to 30mg.
 
dice404 said:
I would say that your total testosterone levels are pretty low considering you are in your third week of pct. I'm not sure why everyone is saying that your blood work looks fine, because your current total testosterone is about one third of your baseline! Yes, endogenous testosterone suppression is to be expected with administration of androgens, but your HPTA should be recovering much better than it appears to be.

It simply appears as though you were not aggressive enough with your post cycle therapy. Two weeks of tamoxifen citrate at 20mg per day is fairly conservative.

You said that you are in your third week of pct, so I'm assuming that you are currently taking 10mg of tamoxifen. I would advise that you increase your dosage to 40mg for at least the next week. From there, I would recommend that you taper your dosage by 10mg each week. It would be ideal if you could get more blood work after you have tapered down to 30mg.
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if i were to recommend anything it would be clomid, or clomid and ldex......

i personally dont like tamox.........

Doctors dont prescribe it for testing/kickstarting HPTA, but they do clomid, that tells me somthing.

my 2 pennies.
 
We are all assuming that his Nolvadex was legit and label value...

... and that is definitely not a safe assumption. Were you using research chems? Generic / Indian / etc. foreign pharmaceuticals?

I wonder if you could get a doctor to prescribe the real stuff.
 
CROWLER said:
Sorry to hear what you are going through.

Do you want some TestoPRO

We would be happy to send you some for free


EDIT: I didn't see you are already using a test booster nevermind.
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Can i get some free TestoPRO... in 2 wk of PCT for a PPlex/mdrol cycle :) need it way more than someone that just ran Hdrol and has no clue how to run proper PCT...
 
^^^ i knew it wouldnt take long for somone to say something like this.


For info about the natty supp. I would start taking it now and take it for a while. Just buy some regular trib. Its cheap. It will help a little for your test levels. Like i said before. Just go to the doctor and they can keep an eye on it. They will give you the low down. If you have a good doctor they will make the right decision for you.

And this would definitely suck if he does not have the right nolva......... But this is besides the point. Doctor is what i recommend. It never hurts.
 
not saying anything bad, we all make mistakes, but how does one just jump into superdrol
without any type of pct whatsoever? Not even the ever so famous legal "nolvadex" by the name Novedex XT. (obviously joking)

When i thought about Hdrol i was looking into both nolva and clomid for pct
along with DTH, let alone superdrol lol (obvious overkill from what most say now)
 
do you have bunk nolva? also run it at 20/20/20/20 10 wont do ****. also get something like pct assist and start that on wk 4 of ptc

SA is great also but Pct assist has alot of good stuff in it. I personally like it.

for the record i love h-drol but dont think it requires nolva at all.

My ptc for h-drol

PCT:
wk6:
PCT Assist 3am 3pm
CEL forme 100mg; 2 squirts x2 per day (am-pm)
Inhibit-E 1cap pm 25mg
Liver Assist 3caps 2x day am-pm
Suppress-C 2 squirts x2 am-pm

wk7:
PCT Assist 3am 3pm
CEL forme 50mg; 1 squirts x2 per day (am-pm)
Inhibit-E 1cap pm 25mg
Liver Assist 3caps 2x day am-pm
Suppress-C 2 squirts x2 am-pm

wk8:
PCT Assist 3am 3pm
Inhibit-E 1cap pm 25mg
Liver Assist 3caps 2x day am-pm
Suppress-C 2 squirts x2 am-pm

wk9:
PCT Assist 3am 3pm
Inhibit-E 1cap pm 25mg
Liver Assist 3caps 2x day am-pm
Suppress-C 2 squirts x2 am-pm
 
jherman08 said:
not saying anything bad, we all make mistakes, but how does one just jump into superdrol
without any type of pct whatsoever? Not even the ever so famous legal "nolvadex" by the name Novedex XT. (obviously joking)

When i thought about Hdrol i was looking into both nolva and clomid for pct
along with DTH, let alone superdrol lol (obvious overkill from what most say now)
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Who jumped into superdrol? hdrol=holodrol.
 
qwerty33 said:
do you have bunk nolva? also run it at 20/20/20/20 10 wont do ****. also get something like pct assist and start that on wk 4 of ptc

SA is great also but Pct assist has alot of good stuff in it. I personally like it.

for the record i love h-drol but dont think it requires nolva at all.

My ptc for h-drol

PCT:
wk6:
PCT Assist 3am 3pm
CEL forme 100mg; 2 squirts x2 per day (am-pm)
Inhibit-E 1cap pm 25mg
Liver Assist 3caps 2x day am-pm
Suppress-C 2 squirts x2 am-pm

wk7:
PCT Assist 3am 3pm
CEL forme 50mg; 1 squirts x2 per day (am-pm)
Inhibit-E 1cap pm 25mg
Liver Assist 3caps 2x day am-pm
Suppress-C 2 squirts x2 am-pm

wk8:
PCT Assist 3am 3pm
Inhibit-E 1cap pm 25mg
Liver Assist 3caps 2x day am-pm
Suppress-C 2 squirts x2 am-pm

wk9:
PCT Assist 3am 3pm
Inhibit-E 1cap pm 25mg
Liver Assist 3caps 2x day am-pm
Suppress-C 2 squirts x2 am-pm
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I would subtract the "squirters" if you dont have enough money. This would be a new addition to the PCT. Sticking to traditional "PCT" i think does fine.
Like i said, if you want.
 
I'm the one who took Sdrol and now I too have low test levels... my endo has advised me to take nothing and let my body recover naturally.

I messed up. No need to remind me... My c ock reminds me everyday lol
 
so even without a proper ptc you body will get back to normal levels just not as fast? thats good to hear
 
Kristofer68SS said:
how long did you run it?

how long ago was the cycle?
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1 month..

It was S-Roid by Hardcore Formulations, which is a sdrol clone (which i didnt know at the time)


I think my test levels were pretty low due to a prohormone before the cycle even started which didnt help at all.




Its been 1.5 months since the cycle? And to be honest, there was a point where I couldnt get it up in any way to save my life. Since then my libido has signifcantly risen naturally on its own, which is a sign that my body has no tcompletely lost test production and should recover like it has been... correct?


Ive been criticised for my naive, stupid approach to prohormones countless times so please dont rag on me too much. I didnt know the importance of PCT when I took these products.. now I know.
 
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