jbry gets diesel with dieselbolan V 2.0!

yea, as you may remember, I've ran fura before, but it was at the minimum dose of 300mg e/d (well, actually 298mg).

I'm really anxious to see what it will do at 500-600.

here is what anabolics 09 says about thp stanozol:

Prostanozol contains demethylstanozolol with an ether (tetrahydropyranyl) attached to the 17-beta hydroxyl group, which slightly increases its oral bioavailability by facilitating absorption via the lymphatic route.

"The ether increases oil solubility and the like lihood of lymphatic delivery with dietary fats, which bypass the first pass through the liver."

"however, there is no oil carrier, which significantly lowers the chance for lymphatic delivery. This will necessitate a much higher oral dosage than would be needed otherwise."

so I'm wondering if I busted open my capsules, and mixed it with some coconut oil, then down the hatch, if it would enhance absorbtion????

but then, this is what he states concerning methylated steroids:

Studies have shown that taking an oral anabolic steroid with food may decrease its bioavailability.622 This is caused by the fat-soluble nature of steroid hormones, which can allow some of the drug to dissolve with undigested dietary fat, reducing its absorption from the gastrointestinal tract. For maximum utilization, this steroid should be taken on an empty stomach.

I'm so confused.
 
jbryand101b said:
yea, as you may remember, I've ran fura before, but it was at the minimum dose of 300mg e/d (well, actually 298mg).

I'm really anxious to see what it will do at 500-600.

here is what anabolics 09 says about thp stanozol:

Prostanozol contains demethylstanozolol with an ether (tetrahydropyranyl) attached to the 17-beta hydroxyl group, which slightly increases its oral bioavailability by facilitating absorption via the lymphatic route.

"The ether increases oil solubility and the like lihood of lymphatic delivery with dietary fats, which bypass the first pass through the liver."

"however, there is no oil carrier, which significantly lowers the chance for lymphatic delivery. This will necessitate a much higher oral dosage than would be needed otherwise."

so I'm wondering if I busted open my capsules, and mixed it with some coconut oil, then down the hatch, if it would enhance absorbtion????

but then, this is what he states concerning methylated steroids:

Studies have shown that taking an oral anabolic steroid with food may decrease its bioavailability.622 This is caused by the fat-soluble nature of steroid hormones, which can allow some of the drug to dissolve with undigested dietary fat, reducing its absorption from the gastrointestinal tract. For maximum utilization, this steroid should be taken on an empty stomach.

I'm so confused.
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Couldnt you make a transdermal?
 
Thesinner and I talked about this a few years back.

I think we decided that the CH3 is basically as good as it gets and that small amounts of fat should help the non-methyl (the key being not too much). Too much fat with your AAS dose and you risk the chance of loose stools and pooping out your roids!

This was all postulating from things that we had read...take it for what it is. I believe we were referencing WL too though and that was how the conversation started.
 
stxnas said:
Thesinner and I talked about this a few years back.

I think we decided that the CH3 is basically as good as it gets and that small amounts of fat should help the non-methyl (the key being not too much). Too much fat with your AAS dose and you risk the chance of loose stools and pooping out your roids!
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Too much fat with orals is a no no??????:eek5:
 
gamer2be08 said:
Too much fat with orals is a no no??????:eek5:
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Studies have shown that taking an oral anabolic steroid with food may decrease its bioavailability.622 This is caused by the fat-soluble nature of steroid hormones, which can allow some of the drug to dissolve with undigested dietary fat, reducing its absorption from the gastrointestinal tract. For maximum utilization, this steroid should be taken on an empty stomach.

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this particular reference is from the methyl-1-testosterone profile. but it's used in numerous other methylated steroid profile throughout the book.
 
the body needs to remove the thp ether molecule in order to make it an active steroid.

the blood's ph is neutral, so it will not do this. the stomach has a low ph, which will remove the thp ether, and allow the steroid to become active.

this is why the thp ether compound wouldn't work as an injectable. you'd be just injecting an in active steroid.

but I'm not 100% sure about the transdermal. I'd have to ask P.A. and see what he thinks.
 
jbryand101b said:
Studies have shown that taking an oral anabolic steroid with food may decrease its bioavailability.622 This is caused by the fat-soluble nature of steroid hormones, which can allow some of the drug to dissolve with undigested dietary fat, reducing its absorption from the gastrointestinal tract. For maximum utilization, this steroid should be taken on an empty stomach.
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Geeeeezzz.. I took all of my superdrol (beastdrol) with food and whole milk and fish oil :(!!!
 
hey, it still worked great though!

key word being "may" in that paragraph.

but who knows, you "may" have gotten even better effects if taken on an empty stomach! :D
 
gamer2be08 said:
Geeeeezzz.. I took all of my superdrol (beastdrol) with food and whole milk and fish oil :(!!!
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From what I've read, you'd likely have to eat more fat than what most of us on here would (in one sitting). It's talking about undigested dietary fat. This means that you **** it out when you take a dump. Too much fat causes loose stools. That's why fat blockers warn of loose stools and...anal leakage :eek:...the fat is undigested and subsequently...well, I'll leave it at that, lol.

Honestly though, methyl steroids have no reason to be taken with food. The 17a methylation will take care absorption. The only time I would take a roid with food is if it is not 17aa. I'd have to do some more research, but I don't think ethylated steroids necessarily need to be taken with food either (17aa includes -Me & -Et).
 
as of right now, nothing else.

I tried stacking it with m1t, but only made it 4 days into the m1t at 10mg e/d and decided to stop d/t how I was starting to feel, and how fast I was feeling it.

I've got some other things I may try, like some propadrol, & some katanadrol. ultimately I'll probably just stick with just the diesel to finish it out since it's going so good right now.
 
what about PULSING the m1t ;)
 
jbryand101b said:
as of right now, nothing else.

I tried stacking it with m1t, but only made it 4 days into the m1t at 10mg e/d and decided to stop d/t how I was starting to feel, and how fast I was feeling it.

I've got some other things I may try, like some propadrol, & some katanadrol. ultimately I'll probably just stick with just the diesel to finish it out since it's going so good right now.
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Yeeeaaahh bro! That Katanadrol is what I'm talkin 'bout. I'll be stacking it with some Helladrol in about 15 months.
 
man, today was back at the gym. no words to describe how pumped I was.

had on a wife beater a shirt, lookin swole as hell. yea, I was getting those "he's on something" looks.

same looks I was getting at my works monthly staff meating...

bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they hate me cause they aint me.

man, the cycle is going so good now, I really dont want it to end next week. thoughts, comments, suggestions.......?????
 
You're thinking of stacking Katana at 500mg e/d for the remainder of the dieselbolan, right? or have your already decided to?
 
jbryand101b said:
man, today was back at the gym. no words to describe how pumped I was.

had on a wife beater a shirt, lookin swole as hell. yea, I was getting those "he's on something" looks.

same looks I was getting at my works monthly staff meating...

bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they hate me cause they aint me.

man, the cycle is going so good now, I really dont want it to end next week. thoughts, comments, suggestions.......?????
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Looks good. Don't be afraid to use a few caps of dieselbolan in pct. I did it and feel that it sped my recovery. I did one cap a week. I also began my clomid during the last week o the cycle.
 
zombiemuscle said:
Looks good. Don't be afraid to use a few caps of dieselbolan in pct. I did it and feel that it sped my recovery. I did one cap a week. I also began my clomid during the last week o the cycle.
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this is just stupid sorry man- plain and simple- stupid


your trying to regain hormonal balance- and you are continuing to put synthesized androgens in ur body=longer time to recover hpta function


please research before you give out advice like this and hurt some one
 
HATEFULone said:
I've only done this on aas cycles not ph's but I used to do a 4 week torem and sustain alpha pct then I'd do another 2 weeks or so of test p then do another 4 week pct, I feel the the slight offset from the second mini cycle really got my body rebounding to get my test back up to normal, then the second pct shot me into overdrive, just something I experimented with and liked, might be able to do that zombie use the form how I did the test p.
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zombiemuscle said:
Actually now that you mention it, I have popped a few caps dimethazine during PCT. I was thinking that I have enough SERM for 2 months so what the hell if I drag out PCT. Funny thing is, after using a couple caps (usually no more than 1 a week) I started feeling a rebound. PCT is going nicely with this strategy. Maybe there is something to it.
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HATEFULone said:
I've done it a 3 times, worked great after a long test p and eq 16 weeker with dermacrine at the end.
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To each their own.
 
zombiemuscle said:
To each their own.
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Im sorry man- but the idea of continuing to take hormones while in pct is not a good idea- there is nothing to it- you got lucky-or ur hormone levels a screwed im not sure which one


but research has proven that androgens in pct like this is not good-at all
 
1st off you don't wanna start clomid till 1 day after your last oral dose, and 2nd using dieselbolan in PCT makes no sense whatsoever. In no way would it help speed your recovery, thats's gotta be the worst advice i've ever seen.
 
BarbellBeast said:
1st off you don't wanna start clomid till 1 day after your last oral dose, and 2nd using dieselbolan in PCT makes no sense whatsoever. In no way would it help speed your recovery, thats's gotta be the worst advice i've ever seen.
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I just added beastdrol into my pct plan.
 
it's okay. I appreciate the suggestions. no one needs to worry about my pct. I know what I'm doing.

but thanks guys! I'm so glad you care, group hug!!!!!((((((bro's)))))))
 
I've only ran epistane once, and it was estane, from cel. didn't do anything for me. but I'm gonna give epistrong a shot and see how much better, if any it is.
 
hope its not a miss- i respond very very well to epithio- in fact- this pisses me of so bad- i have gained 9 lbs on m14add and i gained 10 on epistane- WTF!

Granted it is only day 16 of m14 add- i mean all my stregnth is up bench up squat up both up 35 lbs. But i was really expecting more like 12-15 lbs from this- very dissapointed


I hope deisel bolan doesnt let me down!
 
"I hope deisel bolan doesnt let me down!"

Thats what Im saying. But I doubt it will, my boy Kleen gained like 15-20 pounds off Dimeth itself...soooooooooo
 
geez! thats how it looks on a dirty bulk! man, I need to take some shots of mine. I just started to shave and use a tanning lotion to see more def.

I was saving it, but Im gonna put up some before/after pics of this cycle.
 
jbryand101b said:
geez! thats how it looks on a dirty bulk! man, I need to take some shots of mine. I just started to shave and use a tanning lotion to see more def.

I was saving it, but Im gonna put up some before/after pics of this cycle.
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In the words of edwitt, "I have a metabolism of an african racehorse"... lol

Ya, I got a crazy body..
 
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