How to "pulse" orals

Guys, whatever you pulse these days, I highly recommend it be legal! I won't tell you your business, but I will not endorse or advise the use (or the sale/purchase) of anything you don't have a prescription for or is not a commercial OTC dietary supplement. I have given a lot of general advice already, enough for you to extrapolate whatever may be missing. Also, many individuals here have become quite intuitive and experienced with this method and I'm sure will be happy to continue and share their insights.

I'm developing awesome new dietary supps for you guys all the time, so I have to stay squeaky clean these days to honor those companies and myself. In light of recent events, I hope you can appreciate my position. :)
 
I am planning on starting an Epi cycle this week. I was told that during cycle I do not need estrogen blockers, is this true? I plan to pulse it 4 times a week 2 days on 2 off like D has posted for us. I am wondering if taking anabolic innovations cycle support would be ok during cycle or should I wait till PCT. Need a little help.
 
Hey Dusty,

While you may not need an aromatase inhibitor while on Epi, I recommend something like ATD on your "off" nights to keep your natural test production optimal. As for the Cycle Support, I would save it for PCT or if you really feel it necessary, use it on off days.

Have fun with your Epi...
 
dustyteevs said:
I am planning on starting an Epi cycle this week. I was told that during cycle I do not need estrogen blockers, is this true? I plan to pulse it 4 times a week 2 days on 2 off like D has posted for us. I am wondering if taking anabolic innovations cycle support would be ok during cycle or should I wait till post cycle therapy. Need a little help.
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You could have a look at the Epistane FAQ I have created and see if that helps you answer this question. The link is in my signature.

Much Love,

Neoborn
 
Post-pulse Bridge

I'm wrapping up my 9 week Epi pulse-cycle in a few weeks and am curious about suggestions for a bridge to a standard Epi cylce.

I do a 3x/week workout with the "standard" dosing protocol of 40mg split pre/pos so that's 27 dose-days total. Since there's no traditional PCT suggested for pulse-cycles other than consideration for total dose-days it seems that I should take a month off before doing another cycle. Opininons on this?

Also, any opinions on what supps to bridge with? After a month off I'm thinking of doing either a 4-week traditional Epi cycle w/ PCT or maybe a PP cycle. Any suggestions on which would be better?

Thanks as always...
 
twswift said:
I'm wrapping up my 9 week Epi pulse-cycle in a few weeks and am curious about suggestions for a bridge to a standard Epi cylce.

I do a 3x/week workout with the "standard" dosing protocol of 40mg split pre/pos so that's 27 dose-days total. Since there's no traditional post cycle therapy suggested for pulse-cycles other than consideration for total dose-days it seems that I should take a month off before doing another cycle. Opininons on this?

Also, any opinions on what supps to bridge with? After a month off I'm thinking of doing either a 4-week traditional Epi cycle w/ PCT or maybe a PP cycle. Any suggestions on which would be better?

Thanks as always...
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what kinda gains have you made both in size mass strength?
 
So far about 3-4 lean pounds increase and noticeable strength gains (I'd have to go back and do the math on where I started to now and don't have my log with me.) I'd probably have more poundage packed on but it's been a tough month on the family front and haven't been 100% on diet.
 
DR.D said:
Guys, whatever you pulse these days, I highly recommend it be legal! I won't tell you your business, but I will not endorse or advise the use (or the sale/purchase) of anything you don't have a prescription for or is not a commercial OTC dietary supplement. I have given a lot of general advice already, enough for you to extrapolate whatever may be missing. Also, many individuals here have become quite intuitive and experienced with this method and I'm sure will be happy to continue and share their insights.

I'm developing awesome new dietary supps for you guys all the time, so I have to stay squeaky clean these days to honor those companies and myself. In light of recent events, I hope you can appreciate my position. :)
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i do but what about a pm :)....sorry couldn't help it
 
StellaArtois said:
i do but what about a pm :)....sorry couldn't help it
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That's fine, PM at will. I am always glad to be helpful if possible, as long as you respect my criteria. There never has been, nor will I allow there to be any confusion at all about my position on this issue (read my new signature if you still lack understanding) :)
 
Dr. D, regarding the "pulsing" method in general,

i plan on pulsing MWF but my routine isnt based on those days, how should i go about pulsing it?

for instance, some week, i will workout day 1 and day 2, day 3 is off day, day 4 and day 5 on, day 6 is off day, day 7 and day 8 on, etc

should i just keep it simple and do it MWF, as i know 90 percent of the time i will be working out those days? will it hurt my progress if i workout without taking a dosage?
 
DR.D said:
That's fine, PM at will. I am always glad to be helpful if possible, as long as you respect my criteria. There never has been, nor will I allow there to be any confusion at all about my position on this issue (read my new signature if you still lack understanding) :)
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awesome, role playing hmm......

ok i just acquired 4 mice for medical testing. this experiment, better classified as my own research, requires me to administer a poison called superdrol onto these mice. i want to test to find out if in small doses of this poison and only administered three times a week can the mouse still survive and also procreate, but ultimately to find out if superdrol is a good poison against rodent infestation. i want to test to see how the mice will react to doses of each substance pulsed at different mgs, at the same time of the week. I am trying to solve with this experiment which mouse suffers the least amount of shutdown, and is able to complete a maze consistently on a weekly basis, without having to administer a pharmaceutical grade product to restore their natural male hormone production. all will be recorded and measured, and 5th mouse will get placebo to make the results legit. I am inquiring your opinion/comments, non medical in any nature, as well as others. btw each mouse will have beneficial vitamins added to their diet throughout the whole process so that their liver functions properly and i don't want to brutally injure these mice.

1st mouse: MWF 3 weeks 10mgs superdrol with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on the other days.

2nd mouse: MWF 2 weeks 10mgs superdrol off week and repeat 2 weeks same with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on off days.

3rd mouse: MWF 1st week 10 mg 2nd and 3rd week 20 mgs of superdrol with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on off days

4th mouse: MWF 2 weeks at 20mg with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on off days


Dr. D, knowing you are not a medical practitioner in a shape or form which mouse do you believe will have the best success and least amount of shutdown, not requiring any pharmaceutical to raise their hormone levels? Anyone else can answer, just looking for non medical opinions? A 5th suggestion can be made by someone else as well and i can purchase an extra mouse for my research project, if its going to produce best success and least amount of shutdown?

thanks
 
StellaArtois said:
awesome, role playing hmm......

ok i just acquired 4 mice for medical testing. this experiment, better classified as my own research, requires me to administer a poison called superdrol onto these mice. i want to test to find out if in small doses of this poison and only administered three times a week can the mouse still survive and also procreate, but ultimately to find out if superdrol is a good poison against rodent infestation. i want to test to see how the mice will react to doses of each substance pulsed at different mgs, at the same time of the week. I am trying to solve with this experiment which mouse suffers the least amount of shutdown, and is able to complete a maze consistently on a weekly basis, without having to administer a pharmaceutical grade product to restore their natural male hormone production. all will be recorded and measured, and 5th mouse will get placebo to make the results legit. I am inquiring your opinion/comments, non medical in any nature, as well as others. btw each mouse will have beneficial vitamins added to their diet throughout the whole process so that their liver functions properly and i don't want to brutally injure these mice.

1st mouse: MWF 3 weeks 10mgs superdrol with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on the other days.

2nd mouse: MWF 2 weeks 10mgs superdrol off week and repeat 2 weeks same with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on off days.

3rd mouse: MWF 1st week 10 mg 2nd and 3rd week 20 mgs of superdrol with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on off days

4th mouse: MWF 2 weeks at 20mg with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on off days


Dr. D, knowing you are not a medical practitioner in a shape or form which mouse do you believe will have the best success and least amount of shutdown, not requiring any pharmaceutical to raise their hormone levels? Anyone else can answer, just looking for non medical opinions? A 5th suggestion can be made by someone else as well and i can purchase an extra mouse for my research project, if its going to produce best success and least amount of shutdown?

thanks
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LOL I love this post!
 
EasyEJL said:
I think the 2nd mouse would win with appropriate diet + workout routine. very small dumbbells tho
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hmm interesting so you believe the mouse with 2 weeks on MWF of 10mgs one week off and then 2 weeks on again MWF 10mgs would have the best results with least amount side effects. i will have to pay closer attention to that mouse, every mouse is going to have plenty of food, and the maze is heavy with challenges so its should be interesting.

thanks
 
StellaArtois said:
hmm interesting so you believe the mouse with 2 weeks on MWF of 10mgs one week off and then 2 weeks on again MWF 10mgs would have the best results with least amount side effects. i will have to pay closer attention to that mouse, every mouse is going to have plenty of food, and the maze is heavy with challenges so its should be interesting.

thanks
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Mouse 3 potentially could beat him, but mouse 2 will be less likely to get back pumps :)
 
EasyEJL said:
Mouse 3 potentially could beat him, but mouse 2 will be less likely to get back pumps :)
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ok, going to have to note that in my journal im going to see if the little guy is going to struggle. definitely want to keep things on the safe side, with success in mind as well. i just don't want these mice to lose their energy to procreate after im done with them, i'm going to release them back in the wild.
 
I like mouse # 4 but 4-6 weeks instead of 2. 20mg taken pre w/o really brings out the alpha mouse and should not be too suppressive to the rodent hormones
 
StellaArtois said:
awesome, role playing hmm......

ok i just acquired 4 mice for medical testing. this experiment, better classified as my own research, requires me to administer a poison called superdrol onto these mice. i want to test to find out if in small doses of this poison and only administered three times a week can the mouse still survive and also procreate, but ultimately to find out if superdrol is a good poison against rodent infestation. i want to test to see how the mice will react to doses of each substance pulsed at different mgs, at the same time of the week. I am trying to solve with this experiment which mouse suffers the least amount of shutdown, and is able to complete a maze consistently on a weekly basis, without having to administer a pharmaceutical grade product to restore their natural male hormone production. all will be recorded and measured, and 5th mouse will get placebo to make the results legit. I am inquiring your opinion/comments, non medical in any nature, as well as others. btw each mouse will have beneficial vitamins added to their diet throughout the whole process so that their liver functions properly and i don't want to brutally injure these mice.

1st mouse: MWF 3 weeks 10mgs superdrol with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on the other days.

2nd mouse: MWF 2 weeks 10mgs superdrol off week and repeat 2 weeks same with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on off days.

3rd mouse: MWF 1st week 10 mg 2nd and 3rd week 20 mgs of superdrol with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on off days

4th mouse: MWF 2 weeks at 20mg with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on off days


Dr. D, knowing you are not a medical practitioner in a shape or form which mouse do you believe will have the best success and least amount of shutdown, not requiring any pharmaceutical to raise their hormone levels? Anyone else can answer, just looking for non medical opinions? A 5th suggestion can be made by someone else as well and i can purchase an extra mouse for my research project, if its going to produce best success and least amount of shutdown?

thanks
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any input appreciated, thinking of submitting this one to proctor and gamble after im done with this experiment
 
Leggo my Ego said:
I like mouse # 4 but 4-6 weeks instead of 2. 20mg taken pre w/o really brings out the alpha mouse and should not be too suppressive to the rodent hormones
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4 to 6 weeks hmmm at 20mg, maybe ill change mouse 4 to 3-4 weeks definitely want to avoid suppressing that mouse to much, that one especially has a frisky GF who just won't stop if you know what i mean. remember these mice will have vitamin protection and a simple female hormone blocker, no pharmaceutical grade stuff like nolva or torm being used here, that was the whole basis for this experiment.

thanks for the comments
 
don't forget to pick up 500g or so of taurine for mouse #4. probably take 5g each before and after a maze run. luckily superdrol is not that suppressive on HTPA, and less so even with a pulse.
 
My mice have had no negative sides with pulsing 4-6 weeks @20 mg per day other than slightly elevated BP. Pumps were definately exaggerated but not painful. 20mg is actually a conservative dosage on a pulse
 
Leggo my Ego said:
My mice have had no negative sides with pulsing 4-6 weeks @20 mg per day other than slightly elevated BP. Pumps were definately exaggerated but not painful. 20mg is actually a conservative dosage on a pulse
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now i'm going to be administering my mice MWF at 20mg did you have the same schedule as well when you pulsed for those 4 to 6 weeks. also did you use any nolva or something similar at end or in between
 
StellaArtois said:
now i'm going to be administering my mice MWF at 20mg did you have the same schedule as well when you pulsed for those 4 to 6 weeks. also did you use any nolva or something similar at end or in between
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Yep same schedule. M,W,F 20mg. I played around with the dose timing a bit but 20mg 2 hrs prior to training with a meal containing an appreciable amount of fats was my sweet spot. This was the 1st cycle where a SERM was not used for PCT, Just and AI for a few weeks at night and DHEA with Breakfast and everything was fine. Gains and strength were kept and libido was up.

I would plan a 4 weeker and access situation and go from there, maybe even start out wk 1 @ 10mg. I for one, even at 225lbs, respond pretty well at 10mg, even on a pulse. But I think you could get away without using conventional PCT following this format.
 
Leggo my Ego said:
Yep same schedule. M,W,F 20mg. I played around with the dose timing a bit but 20mg 2 hrs prior to training with a meal containing an appreciable amount of fats was my sweet spot. This was the 1st cycle where a SERM was not used for post cycle therapy, Just and AI for a few weeks at night and DHEA with Breakfast and everything was fine. Gains and strength were kept and libido was up.

I would plan a 4 weeker and access situation and go from there, maybe even start out wk 1 @ 10mg. I for one, even at 225lbs, respond pretty well at 10mg, even on a pulse. But I think you could get away without using conventional PCT following this format.
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just wondering what were ur gains power and size?
 
Leggo my Ego said:
Yep same schedule. M,W,F 20mg. I played around with the dose timing a bit but 20mg 2 hrs prior to training with a meal containing an appreciable amount of fats was my sweet spot. This was the 1st cycle where a SERM was not used for post cycle therapy, Just and AI for a few weeks at night and DHEA with Breakfast and everything was fine. Gains and strength were kept and libido was up.

I would plan a 4 weeker and access situation and go from there, maybe even start out wk 1 @ 10mg. I for one, even at 225lbs, respond pretty well at 10mg, even on a pulse. But I think you could get away without using conventional PCT following this format.
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so 2 hrs before eh? interesting, I was thinking more like 45-1hr.
 
StellaArtois said:
awesome, role playing hmm......

ok i just acquired 4 mice for medical testing. this experiment, better classified as my own research, requires me to administer a poison called superdrol onto these mice. i want to test to find out if in small doses of this poison and only administered three times a week can the mouse still survive and also procreate, but ultimately to find out if superdrol is a good poison against rodent infestation. i want to test to see how the mice will react to doses of each substance pulsed at different mgs, at the same time of the week. I am trying to solve with this experiment which mouse suffers the least amount of shutdown, and is able to complete a maze consistently on a weekly basis, without having to administer a pharmaceutical grade product to restore their natural male hormone production. all will be recorded and measured, and 5th mouse will get placebo to make the results legit. I am inquiring your opinion/comments, non medical in any nature, as well as others. btw each mouse will have beneficial vitamins added to their diet throughout the whole process so that their liver functions properly and i don't want to brutally injure these mice.

1st mouse: MWF 3 weeks 10mgs superdrol with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on the other days.

2nd mouse: MWF 2 weeks 10mgs superdrol off week and repeat 2 weeks same with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on off days.

3rd mouse: MWF 1st week 10 mg 2nd and 3rd week 20 mgs of superdrol with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on off days

4th mouse: MWF 2 weeks at 20mg with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on off days


Dr. D, knowing you are not a medical practitioner in a shape or form which mouse do you believe will have the best success and least amount of shutdown, not requiring any pharmaceutical to raise their hormone levels? Anyone else can answer, just looking for non medical opinions? A 5th suggestion can be made by someone else as well and i can purchase an extra mouse for my research project, if its going to produce best success and least amount of shutdown?

thanks
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I would get another mouse, and put him under a different treatment.

I'm thinking of a combination between mouse number 1,2, and 4.

Which is more like this:
5th Mouse: MWF 3 weeks 20mgs superdrol with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on the other days, then take 3 weeks off, repeat.


I'm planning to perform a similar experiment to my own mouse using an old and rare poison called Ergomax LMG (AX Version) that I manage to acquired a few weeks back. It is known to be a highly androgenic poison, which I hope will bring out the angry alpha beast in my little rodent.

It will be a short and intense cycle spanning for 3 weeks dose at 30 mg, which I expect to not cause any shutdown.

My mouse: 8 dosing at 30 mg of Ergomax in 3 weeks with a female mouse hormone inhibitor ED, then take 3 weeks off, might repeat or might not.
 
Leggo my Ego said:
Yep same schedule. M,W,F 20mg. I played around with the dose timing a bit but 20mg 2 hrs prior to training with a meal containing an appreciable amount of fats was my sweet spot. This was the 1st cycle where a SERM was not used for post cycle therapy, Just and AI for a few weeks at night and DHEA with Breakfast and everything was fine. Gains and strength were kept and libido was up.

I would plan a 4 weeker and access situation and go from there, maybe even start out wk 1 @ 10mg. I for one, even at 225lbs, respond pretty well at 10mg, even on a pulse. But I think you could get away without using conventional PCT following this format.
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sounds good 4 weeks start out at 10mg mwf see tolerance and use some inhibite with hypertest on off days and when finished, i hope my mouse doesn't turn into a rat....


later, thanks for the help
 
in all these pages, has anyone seen a "floating" pulse protocol? by this i mean someone with a flucuating schedule?

generally the idea is time = time off.

so lets say one week someone doses MWF, and takes sat and sunday off.

but next week, schedule would dictate workouts on monday, tuesday. so that would be 2 on days, proceed by wed. and thursday as off days. friday on, sat off, sun on, mon off, tue on, wed and thurs. off, fri and sat on, sun and mon off, etc.

so it is a back and forth between 3 times a week and a 2 on 2 off protocol.

can this still be considered conservative, or because of the frequency of dosing it isnt?
 
jaymdubbs said:
in all these pages, has anyone seen a "floating" pulse protocol? by this i mean someone with a flucuating schedule?

generally the idea is time = time off.

so lets say one week someone doses MWF, and takes sat and sunday off.

but next week, schedule would dictate workouts on monday, tuesday. so that would be 2 on days, proceed by wed. and thursday as off days. friday on, sat off, sun on, mon off, tue on, wed and thurs. off, fri and sat on, sun and mon off, etc.

so it is a back and forth between 3 times a week and a 2 on 2 off protocol.

can this still be considered conservative, or because of the frequency of dosing it isnt?
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I think that could still be conservative. Just make sure you get in those 2 days in a row off weekly to mitigate shutdown
 
Leggo my Ego said:
I think that could still be conservative. Just make sure you get in those 2 days in a row off weekly to mitigate shutdown
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Thats what i figured, because if you look over the course of a month with that kind of schedule, the range of doses per week is still at 3-4, its just selective days off, with at least a2 days off after 2 day dosing or the mwf dosing.
 
Do you guys think that there is a optimum time to take your first dose while on a pulse???? I read a log in the supplement logs where a guy was pulsing m-drol and he took his first dose in the morning and his second before he lifted in the evening and made awsome gains...I do it a hour before and a hour after...which is more optimal????
 
pman said:
Do you guys think that there is a optimum time to take your first dose while on a pulse???? I read a log in the supplement logs where a guy was pulsing m-drol and he took his first dose in the morning and his second before he lifted in the evening and made awsome gains...I do it a hour before and a hour after...which is more optimal????
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my first dose was yesterday, and i dont know if it was placebo or not, but i felt like a monster with 2 caps mdrol preworkout (w/shake) and 1 cap post workout


Even with this pulse, I am gyno paranoid. I was reading about the correlation between ATD/ai's and delayed gyno attributed with superdrol, and I ultimately decided that I will be running the m-drol SOLO, with my PCT consisting of BAM and Pro anabol (still undecided on Jungle warfare, because of the ADED)

has ANYONE reported gyno on a pulse?
 
jaymdubbs said:
my first dose was yesterday, and i dont know if it was placebo or not, but i felt like a monster with 2 caps mdrol preworkout (w/shake) and 1 cap post workout


Even with this pulse, I am gyno paranoid. I was reading about the correlation between ATD/ai's and delayed gyno attributed with superdrol, and I ultimately decided that I will be running the m-drol SOLO, with my post cycle therapy consisting of BAM and Pro anabol (still undecided on Jungle warfare, because of the ADED)

has ANYONE reported gyno on a pulse?
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I haven't heard of anyone reporting gyno on a pulse cycle before. Doesn't mean it can't happen. If you're that worried just have a SERM on hand in case something goes wrong. I would also drop BAM from your post cycle therapy as it can supress the HTPA.
 
Botch said:
I haven't heard of anyone reporting gyno on a pulse cycle before. Doesn't mean it can't happen. If you're that worried just have a SERM on hand in case something goes wrong. I would also drop BAM from your post cycle therapy as it can supress the HTPA.
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Interesting, I never thought of that. is the the 25spir (sp) that causes the suppression? I remember hearing about mass fx causing gyno, and essentially mass fx and bam are the same(or really similar), but i never full understood this


i know ive taken DOUBLE dosed mass fx and h2 for 2 weeks, no issues, no shut down, etc., followed by JW, BAM, and Pro anabol with no sides, issues, shutdown, etc (increased libido actually)


ahhh, decisions decisions.
 
someone pulse something for like 2-3 months only doing 2x a week on 2 training days split like every other workout or something

would be interesting. not as strong as a pulse. last 2x as long requires no pct in theory and i suppose throw in either an

test booster
ai
or something on some of the off days not even all the offdays (5) weekly id try this i think but im currently testing products otherwise id be interested in this

might prove to be too weak not sure.

dont expect 10lbs in a month instead id hope for 1-2 lbs a month and run this for somthing like 3-4 months i guess you could even run 2 diff products on those 2 workout days
 
jaymdubbs said:
Interesting, I never thought of that. is the the 25spir (sp) that causes the suppression? I remember hearing about mass fx causing gyno, and essentially mass fx and bam are the same(or really similar), but i never full understood this


i know ive taken DOUBLE dosed mass fx and h2 for 2 weeks, no issues, no shut down, etc., followed by JW, BAM, and Pro anabol with no sides, issues, shutdown, etc (increased libido actually)


ahhh, decisions decisions.
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Yeah it's the spiro that can apparently be suppressive. Mass fx and BAM are similar...but not the same. I haven't heard of suppression with mass fx. As far as Jungle Warfare goes it also increased my libido, though that is no indication that suppression has not occured. Who really knows if JW is suppressive...it isn't going to stop me from using the bottle I have lying around. I'll probably put it in a pulse while I'm taking orals and use something else as PCT. I've never heard of Mass FX causing gyno before...WTF?
 
one last final thing before i lead my mice into this crazy experiment, how much atd do you think i should be feeding these guys on off days, bottle says 1 to 3, however don't want to over do it on this stuff on off days so it counteract the s-drol to much, thinking of giving them 1 pill at night on off days?
 
one last final thing before i lead my mice into this crazy experiment, how much atd do you think i should be feeding these guys on off days, bottle says 1 to 3, however don't want to over do it on this stuff on off days so it counteract the s-drol to much, thinking of giving them 1 pill at night on off days?
 
StellaArtois said:
awesome, role playing hmm......

ok i just acquired 4 mice for medical testing. this experiment, better classified as my own research, requires me to administer a poison called superdrol onto these mice. i want to test to find out if in small doses of this poison and only administered three times a week can the mouse still survive and also procreate, but ultimately to find out if superdrol is a good poison against rodent infestation. i want to test to see how the mice will react to doses of each substance pulsed at different mgs, at the same time of the week. I am trying to solve with this experiment which mouse suffers the least amount of shutdown, and is able to complete a maze consistently on a weekly basis, without having to administer a pharmaceutical grade product to restore their natural male hormone production. all will be recorded and measured, and 5th mouse will get placebo to make the results legit. I am inquiring your opinion/comments, non medical in any nature, as well as others. btw each mouse will have beneficial vitamins added to their diet throughout the whole process so that their liver functions properly and i don't want to brutally injure these mice.

1st mouse: MWF 3 weeks 10mgs superdrol with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on the other days.

2nd mouse: MWF 2 weeks 10mgs superdrol off week and repeat 2 weeks same with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on off days.

3rd mouse: MWF 1st week 10 mg 2nd and 3rd week 20 mgs of superdrol with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on off days

4th mouse: MWF 2 weeks at 20mg with a female mouse hormone inhibitor on off days


Dr. D, knowing you are not a medical practitioner in a shape or form which mouse do you believe will have the best success and least amount of shutdown, not requiring any pharmaceutical to raise their hormone levels? Anyone else can answer, just looking for non medical opinions? A 5th suggestion can be made by someone else as well and i can purchase an extra mouse for my research project, if its going to produce best success and least amount of shutdown?

thanks
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I see a number of serious problems with your experiment. An average mice weighs 34 grams. It would be virtually impossible to
administer 10mg of anything to a creature this size. You would have to scale back the doses quite a bit.

Another thing to consider is the possibility that the mice could gain enormous size and strength and use this to escape. Have you considered what might happen to the neighborhood cats if the mice use their new-found powers to take revenge for eons of persecution from felines?
 
StellaArtois said:
one last final thing before i lead my mice into this crazy experiment, how much atd do you think i should be feeding these guys on off days, bottle says 1 to 3, however don't want to over do it on this stuff on off days so it counteract the s-drol to much, thinking of giving them 1 pill at night on off days?
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I would do 50mg with your last meal of the day, before bed, with some fats
 
ArnoldIsMyIdol said:
I see a number of serious problems with your experiment. An average mice weighs 34 grams. It would be virtually impossible to
administer 10mg of anything to a creature this size. You would have to scale back the doses quite a bit.

Another thing to consider is the possibility that the mice could gain enormous size and strength and use this to escape. Have you considered what might happen to the neighborhood cats if the mice use their new-found powers to take revenge for eons of persecution from felines?
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good call, to counter act the mice becoming supermutant mice with insane powers, i will get 4 cats and run straight test
 
jaymdubbs said:
my first dose was yesterday, and i dont know if it was placebo or not, but i felt like a monster with 2 caps mdrol preworkout (w/shake) and 1 cap post workout


Even with this pulse, I am gyno paranoid. I was reading about the correlation between ATD/ai's and delayed gyno attributed with superdrol, and I ultimately decided that I will be running the m-drol SOLO, with my post cycle therapy consisting of BAM and Pro anabol (still undecided on Jungle warfare, because of the ADED)

has ANYONE reported gyno on a pulse?
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cool keep us posted
 
I've got a question, hopefully Dr D checks this one. What about halodrol 50 as a pulse? I was poking and searching a little, and couldn't find any pulse results from this. maybe it was just me. Although it is mild in gains, being mild in sides + suppression also means a pulse should make that just about completely disappear.
 
EasyEJL said:
I've got a question, hopefully Dr D checks this one. What about halodrol 50 as a pulse? I was poking and searching a little, and couldn't find any pulse results from this. maybe it was just me. Although it is mild in gains, being mild in sides + suppression also means a pulse should make that just about completely disappear.
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I have never used that product, so I wouldn't be able to say, but I am also gagged from discussing any competitor's products or even non-current company products. Sorry E. :)
 
EasyEJL said:
I've got a question, hopefully Dr D checks this one. What about halodrol 50 as a pulse? I was poking and searching a little, and couldn't find any pulse results from this. maybe it was just me. Although it is mild in gains, being mild in sides + suppression also means a pulse should make that just about completely disappear.
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From what I've read it's not the most efficient pulse choice due to its long kick-in time.
 
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