How to "pulse" orals

[DR.D]

i dont want to beat a dead horse here but, is BOLD the most you could get away with stacked with epi without using a SERM? BOLD is very expensive and reported as a much weaker PH, so is there something that fits the bill, or would anything else require a full fledged post cycle therapy?

theres alot of other Ph's but i assume no one knows much about them still.
axis labs furazadrol,est propadrol, kilosports trenadrol

Bold is a mild AI, so it's ability to boost test should balance out with it's androgenic potential. Just like Epi, it's very suitable as one that will not cause much suppression over extended use. The others look good and just as non-toxic as far as liver health, but they don't share this advantage.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Ok, so I have been trying my best to keep up with this ENORMOUS thread. I have never tried a pulse, so I want to give it a whirl. I will be cutting, so my thought is go with Epi & Halodrol (or clones) with an AI on off days. I’m 36, been running many PH cycles over the past 10 years and have been training for over 15 and currently train 4 days per week. I have many questions, and here they are:

1) Is there a better stack for cutting?
2) What is the preferred AI on off days?
3) Should I add 11-OXO?
4) What are the acronyms: HD? HDX2?
5) Are AIs preferred over SERMS for PCT? Why?
6) Where can I find Dr. D’s “taper up AI method”?

I think that’s it. Sorry for the long list.

Thanks,

TF

 

[Solitude]

Ok, so I have been trying my best to keep up with this ENORMOUS thread. I have never tried a pulse, so I want to give it a whirl. I will be cutting, so my thought is go with Epi & Halodrol (or clones) with an AI on off days. I’m 36, been running many PH cycles over the past 10 years and have been training for over 15 and currently train 4 days per week. I have many questions, and here they are:

1) Is there a better stack for cutting?
2) What is the preferred AI on off days?
3) Should I add 11-OXO?
4) What are the acronyms: HD? HDX2?
5) Are AIs preferred over SERMS for post cycle therapy? Why?
6) Where can I find Dr. D’s “taper up AI method”?

I think that’s it. Sorry for the long list.

Thanks,

TF

I can try to help to answer some of those questions.

1. Not too sure but probably something like Halodrol, Propadrol, Epi, Trenadrol or Furazadrol. Basically you would want something dry, not a wet compound. Although I still think you can cut using any PH/PS as it all depends on your caloric intake. Like people said that Epi is a recomp compound, but from my experience, with the amount of calories I'm taking in, it became an all-out-bulk compound. So I guess its all depends on how you control your calories, you should be able to cut with any PH/PS, although dry compound is preferred of course.

2. Formestane, 6-Bromo (HDX2), and ATD (Inhibit-E).

3. 11-OXO can cause more suppression, if you're pulsing trying to minimize suppression then this is not a good idea, if you want cortisol control use Lean Xtreme or Retain 2 instead.

4. HD = Hyperdrol, HDX2 = Hyperdrol X2

5. SERM will help to restart your natural test production if you have been shutdown during your cycle, if no shutdown is experienced then SERM won't be necessary, just use AI or natural test booster, but it is always a good idea to keep some on hand in case you need them.

6. This is the thread that I know of, http://anabolicminds.com/forum/post-cycle-therapy/37790-running-serm-inverse.html, but maybe there are others, I dunno.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Thanks Solitude. That pretty much clears them all up except for which stack. Any more opinions on the stack?


TF

 

[T H E O R E M]

you said that BOLD has some AI properties to it so would this be enough to cover these issues alone, or should Hyperdrol be used on off days?

my Cycle:
Week 1: iForce Bold 200 @ 600mg + Blue up / ; IBE Epistane @ 10,20,30 mg / PULSE (M/W/F pre-wo)
Week 2: iForce Bold 200 @ 600mg + Blue up / ; IBE Epistane @ 30-40 mg / PULSE (M/W/F pre-wo)
Week 3: iForce Bold 200 @ 800mg + Blue up / ; IBE Epistane @ 30-40 mg / PULSE (M/W/F pre-wo)
Week 4-8: iForce Bold 200 @ 1000mg + Blue up / ; IBE Epistane @ 40-50 mg / PULSE (M/W/F pre-wo)

post cycle therapy:
Hyperdrol2 (or advanced post cycle therapy?) +Test booster if needed, generally how long? couple weeks id assume id have to feel whether id need this or not though


thanks for your patience

 

[Turd Ferguson]

you said that BOLD has some AI properties to it so would this be enough to cover these issues alone, or should Hyperdrol be used on off days?

my Cycle:
Week 1: iForce Bold 200 @ 600mg + Blue up / ; IBE Epistane @ 10,20,30 mg / PULSE (M/W/F pre-wo)
Week 2: iForce Bold 200 @ 600mg + Blue up / ; IBE Epistane @ 30-40 mg / PULSE (M/W/F pre-wo)
Week 3: iForce Bold 200 @ 800mg + Blue up / ; IBE Epistane @ 30-40 mg / PULSE (M/W/F pre-wo)
Week 4-8: iForce Bold 200 @ 1000mg + Blue up / ; IBE Epistane @ 40-50 mg / PULSE (M/W/F pre-wo)

post cycle therapy:
Hyperdrol2 (or advanced post cycle therapy?) +Test booster if needed, generally how long? couple weeks id assume id have to feel whether id need this or not though


thanks for your patience

This looks like the route I will take. Is the iForce brand of Bold the only game in town or is there a clone? I like iForce just fine, just wondering.

TF

 

[nycste]

This looks like the route I will take. Is the iForce brand of Bold the only game in town or is there a clone? I like iForce just fine, just wondering.

TF

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[T H E O R E M]

if you capped them urself its about $100 for 45-50 grams. which you still need to get the capper and gel caps plus a scale. if you buy BOLD alone its about 175 or so for 4 bottles

 

[quadrato]

Now i got myself some 11-oxo.
How do you think i should work it during my next 1.5 weeks on my first 4, my week off and next 4 weeks on?

Maybe i should use it as a "bridge" between them and just go on a really low calorie diet and do more cardio and depletion workouts in a week or 2 and then start gaining back and adding some to the mass lost during this?

Maybe take it one week now and then off the resting week and do it 2-3 weeks of the second epi cycle?

Maybe just lower the cals and simply do it during the Epi cycle.. i dont know, what do you think?

 

[xine]

Hey, just wondering if I could get your opinions, I assume this is the appropriate thread to ask in.I have an unopened bottle of m-drol that I have been saving for a while, and I am undecided if I want to pulse or not, I was just wondering what you would recommend, 4 weeks straight cycle, post cycle therapy- novedex XT and 6oxo, or an 8 week pulse. This is my first cycle of any type of steroid.

 

[EasyEJL]

Hey, just wondering if I could get your opinions, I assume this is the appropriate thread to ask in.I have an unopened bottle of m-drol that I have been saving for a while, and I am undecided if I want to pulse or not, I was just wondering what you would recommend, 4 weeks straight cycle, post cycle therapy- novedex XT and 6oxo, or an 8 week pulse. This is my first cycle of any type of steroid.

I'd suggest saving that bottle, or trading it with someone for a different compound for a first cycle. Superdrol is sort of the "big mamma jamma" of side effeects and though it will give good gains, its probably not the wisest choice for a first cycle. Between liver hit, blood pressure, and cholesterol level you need to be careful with superdrol or its clones.

That said, a pulse helps avoid a lot of that, so if you really want to use it, do a pulse rather than regular cycle.

 

[xine]

I'd suggest saving that bottle, or trading it with someone for a different compound for a first cycle. Superdrol is sort of the "big mamma jamma" of side effeects and though it will give good gains, its probably not the wisest choice for a first cycle. Between liver hit, blood pressure, and cholesterol level you need to be careful with superdrol or its clones.

That said, a pulse helps avoid a lot of that, so if you really want to use it, do a pulse rather than regular cycle.

Thank you for the input, I will see what others say, but most likely I will be doing the pulse, starting on Monday. I am really glad I found this thread, props to the doc.

 

[ImJ2x]

you said that BOLD has some AI properties to it...

I'm slightly confused. I always thought BOLD (or at least 1,4-andro, which I believe is exactly the same thing) could be characterized as a mild testosterone, with some slight aromatization. Not an AI.

 

[ozarkaBRAND]

Dr.D

Don't think this has been asked/answered... How long should one wait after a pulse cycle before going into a normally dosed cycle?

 

[DR.D]

Now i got myself some 11-oxo.
How do you think i should work it during my next 1.5 weeks on my first 4, my week off and next 4 weeks on?

Maybe i should use it as a "bridge" between them and just go on a really low calorie diet and do more cardio and depletion workouts in a week or 2 and then start gaining back and adding some to the mass lost during this?

Maybe take it one week now and then off the resting week and do it 2-3 weeks of the second epi cycle?

Maybe just lower the cals and simply do it during the Epi cycle.. i dont know, what do you think?

I believe you could safely "bridge" with it, at least at 150mg, probably more but not for sure. Otherwise, stack it in the next run.

 

[DR.D]

Hey, just wondering if I could get your opinions, I assume this is the appropriate thread to ask in.I have an unopened bottle of m-drol that I have been saving for a while, and I am undecided if I want to pulse or not, I was just wondering what you would recommend, 4 weeks straight cycle, post cycle therapy- novedex XT and 6oxo, or an 8 week pulse. This is my first cycle of any type of steroid.

Maybe 4 weeks would be better. You could play it by ear and go 8 if all seems well, or stop if you have any concerns developing at that point. It's usually hard to mess anything up too bad or beyond repair on just a 1 month pulse.

 

[DR.D]

I'm slightly confused. I always thought BOLD (or at least 1,4-andro, which I believe is exactly the same thing) could be characterized as a mild testosterone, with some slight aromatization. Not an AI.

I don't know why people think that. It's really just an AI with fair anabolic properties and mild androgenic qualities. Here's a study that gives it a Ki of 0.32 mM, which is not too shabby.

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[DR.D]

Don't think this has been asked/answered... How long should one wait after a pulse cycle before going into a normally dosed cycle?

If you stick to the conventional wisdom that time off should equal not less that time on, then the equation is this:

Toff = [Ton (X/7)]

where
T = Time (in weeks)
X = Days ON per week (which is usually 3 or 4 with a pulse)

Therefore, if you did a 6 wks pulse dosing 3x/wk, the "off" time in between cycles should be not less than 2.57 wks, which is exactly 18 days.

 

[ImJ2x]

I don't know why people think that. It's really just an AI with fair anabolic properties and mild androgenic qualities. Here's a study that gives it a Ki of 0.32 mM, which is not too shabby.

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Thanks for schooling me, DrD -- that's definitely a little different than what I had thought 1,4-andro to be.
How do you feel about stacking it with SD in a pulse? With it's AI properties (and SD's lack of aromatization), wouldn't that make any "off" day support supplementation fairly easy? What would you recommend?

 

[DR.D]

Thanks for schooling me, DrD -- that's definitely a little different than what I had thought 1,4-andro to be.
How do you feel about stacking it with superdrol in a pulse? With it's AI properties (and SD's lack of aromatization), wouldn't that make any "off" day support supplementation fairly easy? What would you recommend?

That would probably be a sweet combo! I've used M14 with SD in a conventional cycle and that was an exceptionally nice stack, but pulsing SD with 1,4-dione sounds pretty good too! I haven't tried, but it sounds like it has potential.

 

[Solitude]

If you stick to the conventional wisdom that time off should equal not less that time on, then the equation is this:

Toff = [Ton (X/7)]

where
T = Time (in weeks)
X = Days ON per week (which is usually 3 or 4 with a pulse)

Therefore, if you did a 6 wks pulse dosing 3x/wk, the "off" time in between cycles should be not less than 2.57 wks, which is exactly 18 days.

Doc, I just finished 8 weeks pulse (3 times a week), and today is my first day of post cycle therapy, so if using that formula of yours, that means my time off is should be around 4 weeks.

Is this means that after 1 month of PCT I can jump on to the next cycle? Or is that 4 weeks time off is after finishing the PCT?

 

[neoborn]

It's usually hard to mess anything up too bad or beyond repair on just a 1 month pulse.

Unless you are pulsing Cyanide Salts or Atropine, then it's more effective to do a regular cycle Invalid Link Removed

Much Love,

Neoborn

P.S the above represents some sad attempt at humor .....I think it falls way short

 

[DR.D]

Doc, I just finished 8 weeks pulse (3 times a week), and today is my first day of post cycle therapy, so if using that formula of yours, that means my time off is should be around 4 weeks.

Is this means that after 1 month of post cycle therapy I can jump on to the next cycle? Or is that 4 weeks time off is after finishing the PCT?

Yes, about 24 days for you based on the time on = time off equation with an 8wk 3x/wk pulse. If you are using a SERM, I would just wait a month to let that clear before I start again. In other words, don't call it off time till you get off the SERM. SERM stays in the liver a long time.

If no SERM, I would start the counter right now. Off time can include PCT if there is no SERM and only a test booster or AI is used, IMO.

 

[DR.D]

Teach me all your wisdom.

OK, but that was pretty much it Gix, I don't know anything else now. lol (j/k)

 

[Solitude]

Yes, about 24 days for you based on the time on = time off equation with an 8wk 3x/wk pulse. If you are using a SERM, I would just wait a month to let that clear before I start again. In other words, don't call it off time till you get off the SERM. SERM stays in the liver a long time.

If no SERM, I would start the counter right now. Off time can include post cycle therapy if there is no SERM and only a test booster or AI is used, IMO.

Ah I see, interesting.

Doc how about this, say for example I do 20 days pulse, then take a break about 20 days (surely I don't need a SERM for such a short cycle), then I go jump on another 20 days, then off again for 20 days, can I do that like the whole year, or will the metabolites accumulates and I'll need a long break eventually.

 

[DR.D]

Unless you are pulsing Cyanide Salts or Atropine, then it's more effective to do a regular cycle Invalid Link Removed

Much Love,

Neoborn

That is true Neo! haha

However, both of those are acutely toxic so if you get past the first week, you're probably home free for the month. (don't even ask, you don't wanna know!)

 

[neoborn]

That is true Neo! haha

However, both of those are acutely toxic so if you get past the first week, you're probably home free for the month. (don't even ask, you don't wanna know!)

You been taking "care" of a few "problems" again? :toofunny:.....:ntome:

*Note To Self* don't upset Dr.D.:run:

 

[DR.D]

... will the metabolites accumulates and I'll need a long break eventually.

No, that would be a good strategy for avoidance of sides, toxicity and shutdown. You could probably do that indefinitely. I mean really, you're only on not more than 25% of the time that way, and it's very diluted too. That's very doable indeed. Just get a full blood panel run every 6-12 months to make sure you're cool and keep rollin' on man.

 

[Solitude]

No, that would be a good strategy for avoidance of sides, toxicity and shutdown. You could probably do that indefinitely. I mean really, you're only on not more than 25% of the time that way, and it's very diluted too. That's very doable indeed. Just get a full blood panel run every 6-12 months to make sure you're cool and keep rollin' on man.

Wow! That sounds really good, I think overall in year I could get more longer time-on if I do short cycles like that, while minimizing the use of PCT.

I might give it a shot early next year.

Thanks a lot doc! :thumbsup:

 

[EasyEJL]

No, that would be a good strategy for avoidance of sides, toxicity and shutdown. You could probably do that indefinitely. I mean really, you're only on not more than 25% of the time that way, and it's very diluted too. That's very doable indeed. Just get a full blood panel run every 6-12 months to make sure you're cool and keep rollin' on man.

I'm back to pondering the discussion that happened at one point in this thread, of a 1 day a week pulse. Doing something like superdrol 20-30 mg spread thru the day 1 day a week. Alternate which day of the week to match up with different body parts so it doesn't accentuate anything in particular growth wise (or maybe for all those heavy on upper body but with chicken legs do it on leg day). Possibly there are some better substances, I think tho it has to be something non aromatizable just to not potentially throw estrogen issues in

 

[DR.D]

I'm back to pondering the discussion that happened at one point in this thread, of a 1 day a week pulse. Doing something like superdrol 20-30 mg spread thru the day 1 day a week. Alternate which day of the week to match up with different body parts so it doesn't accentuate anything in particular growth wise (or maybe for all those heavy on upper body but with chicken legs do it on leg day). Possibly there are some better substances, I think tho it has to be something non aromatizable just to not potentially throw estrogen issues in

Yes, you have the right concept, just like Sol. The advantage is you're always on! The compromise is it's only in a pulsed fashion, like skipping a stone on a pond it only touches the surface in pulses, but that's also the advantage that keeps you healthy and able to derive basically a free ride from it.

 

[mountainDB99]

Dr.D,(or any one who has an opinion) I plan on pulsing EPI M,W,F and running novedex xt on off days. What dosage should I run with the nolvedex xt on those off days, and what is your opinion on taking milk thistle during the pulse cycle? Thanks for your time.

 

[nycste]

I'm back to pondering the discussion that happened at one point in this thread, of a 1 day a week pulse. Doing something like superdrol 20-30 mg spread thru the day 1 day a week. Alternate which day of the week to match up with different body parts so it doesn't accentuate anything in particular growth wise (or maybe for all those heavy on upper body but with chicken legs do it on leg day). Possibly there are some better substances, I think tho it has to be something non aromatizable just to not potentially throw estrogen issues in

Yes, you have the right concept, just like Sol. The advantage is you're always on! The compromise is it's only in a pulsed fashion, like skipping a stone on a pond it only touches the surface in pulses, but that's also the advantage that keeps you healthy and able to derive basically a free ride from it.

do we know anyone who has done this yet with some success? and believeable?

id be willing to give this a shot. would like M1t be best for something like this haha?

 

[EasyEJL]

do we know anyone who has done this yet with some success? and believeable?

id be willing to give this a shot. would like M1t be best for something like this haha?

well, really, how would you measure it? I mean look at it for superdrol. Say for instance on a regular 30 day cycle at 20mg/day you expect to gain 15 lbs. 600mg = 15lbs. so every 40mg worth is 1lb. so taking that 40mg over 2 weeks equates to 1/2 lb a week only. So measuring it and comparing vs not taking anything is kinda hard.

 

[nycste]

well, really, how would you measure it? I mean look at it for superdrol. Say for instance on a regular 30 day cycle at 20mg/day you expect to gain 15 lbs. 600mg = 15lbs. so every 40mg worth is 1lb. so taking that 40mg over 2 weeks equates to 1/2 lb a week only. So measuring it and comparing vs not taking anything is kinda hard.

actually its really easy.

the human body can only gain so much weight per month. a cycle based on the human can give 5-20lbs depending on the person the 20lb person being someone who shouldnt be using this product or is using it for a rehab type thing. the 5lb increase is someone who is either huge or horrible diet.

bottom line is if you gain 1 lb a month id consider that a huge gain taking 1 pill a week or heck 2 pills a week max.

would be really interesting. most people do not gain 1lb a month no matter who they are otherwise wed all be HUGE.

there are reasons why even though im much stronger in some areas then others ive been same weight for 3 years . eating enuff to gain fat and yet just cant keep building muscle

 

[EasyEJL]

actually its really easy.

the human body can only gain so much weight per month. a cycle based on the human can give 5-20lbs depending on the person the 20lb person being someone who shouldnt be using this product or is using it for a rehab type thing. the 5lb increase is someone who is either huge or horrible diet.

bottom line is if you gain 1 lb a month id consider that a huge gain taking 1 pill a week or heck 2 pills a week max.

would be really interesting. most people do not gain 1lb a month no matter who they are otherwise wed all be HUGE.

there are reasons why even though im much stronger in some areas then others ive been same weight for 3 years . eating enuff to gain fat and yet just cant keep building muscle

Then you sound like a good candidate for this attempt My weight can vary 3lbs from day to day, and i'm still making fair gains naturally to where I couldn't tell the difference.

 

[nycste]

Then you sound like a good candidate for this attempt My weight can vary 3lbs from day to day, and i'm still making fair gains naturally to where I couldn't tell the difference.

i mean i think im making gains.

i think i am thicker at 210 now then i was 3 years ago. i think.

its hard to tell. im not stronger then i was then but thats thanks to injury and sickness.

im almost back to the top. and i wanna stay there for a while. so taking something like 1-2 pills a week and maybe a natty test booster or something or AI or something and if you can gain 3 lbs in 3months id be superpumped.

im dying to hit 220. highest is 219 my first cycle

 

[DR.D]

Dr.D,(or any one who has an opinion) I plan on pulsing EPI M,W,F and running novedex xt on off days. What dosage should I run with the nolvedex xt on those off days, and what is your opinion on taking milk thistle during the pulse cycle? Thanks for your time.

I have never used NXT so it's hard to offer advice on it.

I have stated my position on MT before, it's only appropriate on hardcore cycles IMO. If anything, I'd prefer NAC, Amla or Cnidium as my liver protector of choice, because they have other percs too (anabolism, libido support, test boosting, anti-ox) and those are effects you can really use anyway!

 

[DR.D]

i mean i think im making gains.

i think i am thicker at 210 now then i was 3 years ago. i think.

its hard to tell. im not stronger then i was then but thats thanks to injury and sickness.

im almost back to the top. and i wanna stay there for a while. so taking something like 1-2 pills a week and maybe a natty test booster or something or AI or something and if you can gain 3 lbs in 3months id be superpumped.

im dying to hit 220. highest is 219 my first cycle

It really does sound well suited for you NYC. It'd be a great way to keep your mojo in tact while making slow steady gains at the same time.

Plus, think about all the great patience you'll develop this way! Seriously though, a year from now you'll have a great sense of accomplishment and health from the gains you make with a slower approach like this.

 

[UNCfan1]

I think I missed something here. U guys talking about pulsing something like SD or M1T 1x a week?

 

[DR.D]

I think I missed something here. U guys talking about pulsing something like superdrol or M1T 1x a week?

Yeah, something like that, 1-2x/wk with anything. I don't suggest M1T, but to each his own! I'm a recovering masochist myself, I'll never touch that one again.

 

[UNCfan1]

Yeah, something like that, 1-2x/wk with anything. I don't suggest M1T, but to each his own! I'm a recovering masochist myself, I'll never touch that one again.

Gotcha, I am glad I never got ahold of any. I know SD and others can kill ur libido but in a matter of days I think I pass.

 

[nycste]

It really does sound well suited for you NYC. It'd be a great way to keep your mojo in tact while making slow steady gains at the same time.

Plus, think about all the great patience you'll develop this way! Seriously though, a year from now you'll have a great sense of accomplishment and health from the gains you make with a slower approach like this.

ok if i did something like this pulsed 2x a week on workout days spreadout like every other workout day or something

would it make sense to mix and match products and would it matter howmuch i took on one given day?

for ex.
phera and xmass workout day 1. workout day 3 epi xmass

or another ex.
epi xmass workout 1... few days later workout 2 superdrol anything

would mixing products like this defeat the purpose of a 1-2 day a week pulse protocol?

would natural test boosters be recommened on offdays or an AI or something? or just run the PH only and nay other normal products?


i only ask cuz as of right now i got
1phera AX
1superdrol AX
2xmass
1epidrol
14ad powder totally forgot about that one

and i could start next cycle in umm 4weeks i guess after my DTHC log if i dont get choosen for another one maybe MN

 

[EasyEJL]

i only ask cuz as of right now i got
1phera AX
1superdrol AX
2xmass
1epidrol
14ad powder totally forgot about that one

and i could start next cycle in umm 4weeks i guess after my DTHC log if i dont get choosen for another one maybe MN

I think you want to avoid the nasty sides of superdrol and just send the bottle to me

nice that you have the original. I don't see where a mix + match approach would hurt, but i almost think you'd be better off sticking with one for a month, then switch so you could gauge progress. I'd try the PP first, as I think out of what you have it would give the most pre-workout stim.

 

[StellaArtois]

cel m-drol

if i took it with cycle support

1)M,W,F at 20mgs for two weeks would a post cycle therapy be needed?

2)would a post cycle therapy be needed if i took it M,W,F at 20 mgs for 3 weeks?

and last but not least

3) M,W,F at 20mg for two weeks, one week break, and then another 2 weeks MWF at 20 mgs.


I'm trying to just get past plateaus, and get some new PR been stuck in what feels like forever. i have this free at my disposal a buddy of mine takes this once in a while with no PCT, Yikes!!never took it before, researched some other stuff but was to afraid of losing my beautiful :afro: .

thanks

 

[Smiler51]

Hi Guys & Dr.D,

I read through this thread and several others but couldn't find much info on pulsing D-Bol, Anadrol or Anavar. I'm not a big fan of the designer gear and would like to start a pulse with one of these compounds. As i will only take it 3*week, water retention and toxity shouldn't be bad.

What would you prefer and at which dosages? I'm 190lbs and ~15% body fat. I took SD, M1T and regular gear in low doses before.

Thanks

 

[StellaArtois]

cel m-drol

if i took it with cycle support

1)M,W,F at 20mgs for two weeks would a post cycle therapy be needed?

2)would a post cycle therapy be needed if i took it M,W,F at 20 mgs for 3 weeks?

and last but not least

3) M,W,F at 20mg for two weeks, one week break, and then another 2 weeks MWF at 20 mgs.


* or maybe one week on one week off for 4 weeks
I'm trying to just get past plateaus, and get some new PR been stuck in what feels like forever. i have this free at my disposal a buddy of mine takes this once in a while with no post cycle therapy, Yikes!!never took it before, researched some other stuff but was to afraid of losing my beautiful :afro: .

thanks

how about we answer mine first

 

[jaymdubbs]

oooo man, earlier today i ordered some m-drol and will be receiving it on wednesday. a few questions (and yes I have searched, I just have more specific questions) have surfaced:

-what kind of training regiment would be most beneficial, ie Higher volume, moderate weight, or lower volume, heavy weight? i realize that it depends if i am going for hypertrophy or strength gains. at this point, i will do whatever the m-drol supports the best.

-in terms of calorie intake, once again i have no "real" goal, but i want to maximize the cycle - if i had to choose, i would ask if i would see any benefits eating maintainence or slightly above>? i have a phobia about fat gain, so a bulk is a little unlikely.

-is the diueretic effect of mdrol that noticable?

-lastly, ive read some good results from posters who have been pulsing. and i have read that some people have reported an INCREASE in libido, but I was wondering if anyone else has experienced any other shutdown?? I cant wait to start this, but Im a little concerned about my libido for the lady. i do have some aspire36 on hand just in case, but i would seriously be pissed if i have issues hahahaha


ps. - anybody who has pulsed, have you had any bloodwork done??



for the record, i am pulsing MWF 20 mg the first week , 30 mg the next four weeks, then back to 20mg for the last week, equalling 6 weeks.

i also have jungle warfare, bad ass mass, and pro anabol from ALRI. what would be the best course of action to minimize sides and shutdown/gyno? should i run the jungle warfare on off days (because of the ADED , metabolite of ATD), and run the bad ass mass and pro anabol for my pct? or any other suggestions?

 

[ArnoldIsMyIdol]

Dr D, I wonder what you think of the cycle I planned...I am planning on trying Superdrol at 20mg/day M T Th Fr (off W Sat and Sun) and on off days using Milk Thistle, DHEA, and tamoxifen (dhea sometimes makes my nips puffy)..

 

[RBKing]

Hi Guys & Dr.D,

I read through this thread and several others but couldn't find much info on pulsing D-Bol, Anadrol or Anavar. I'm not a big fan of the designer gear and would like to start a pulse with one of these compounds. As i will only take it 3*week, water retention and toxity shouldn't be bad.

What would you prefer and at which dosages? I'm 190lbs and ~15% body fat. I took superdrol, M1T and regular gear in low doses before.

Thanks

Go for it and pulse all three together. That would be a sick stack pulse!