How to "pulse" orals

mark118 said:
8-10 weeks pulsing SD + PP is excessive IMO. Its not just prolonged shutdown to be concerned with but also how your cholesterol will be after this long.
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Yeah, that's my biggest concern. Would a higher dosage over a shorter cycle be more advantageous than longer lower dosed cycle? I'm looking for mainly strength gains but not at the expense of my liver. Long term anyways...
 
xcharmsx said:
Yeah, that's my biggest concern. Would a higher dosage over a shorter cycle be more advantageous than longer lower dosed cycle? I'm looking for mainly strength gains but not at the expense of my liver. Long term anyways...
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well, the trick is, gaining 2lbs or less a week ends up being easier maintained weight. Gaining 4lbs a week usually means you lose a bit of it really easily.
 
P plex is a short half life, CEL Alpha one is 5-6hr half life. Epi & SD are good for pulsing but there are many others that would work well too. Both P plex and Alpha one would work great if dosed properly.
 
gymrat827 said:
P plex is a short half life, P plex would work great if dosed properly.
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Sorry. But wrong. If by P-Plex, you're referring to Phera, then it has a very long half-life and has been mentioned time and time again as a lousy pulsing compound.
 
M-DROL Pulse. Adding DHEA & 5-HTP for Lethargy.

3x/wk pulse Sat, Tues, Thurs.
Pre Workout taking 20mg M-DROL & BNS Volumaize. Post Workout taking 10mg M-DROL.

I am starting my 3rd week of the Pulse. The first pulse day I took 20mg M-DROL. Every pulse since I have been taking 30mg of M-DROL.
So I have had a total of 6 on days.
I was 199lbs before start and today I am 206lbs.(Approximately 6ft 2in tall)
I understand there is water retention and some of this weight will go away after cycle is over.

Feel very pumped up during workout!! Can just feel IT in my veins. Not felt this since I was a teenager working out at the barbell club! Shoulders & Biceps look bigger, can feel pecks getting firmer.

Right off the bat got a zit(acne) on my chin, actually strangely happy knowing the M-DROL was working. Picked up some Beta Carotene & Zinc as this is what I used as a teen for acne. Been taking them daily and only had like 3 zits so far and all gone now(No Lumps, no real ache), will drop down to taking the Beta Carotene & Zinc on pulse days only now.

Each pulse day I have experienced (Lethargy) for several hours. (With the exception of one of them.) I am eating lots of carbohydrates post workout to try to combat this. Also tried eating some fruit to combat possible lower blood sugar levels. Did some research and picked up some DHEA & 5-HTP. Next pulse day intend to take DHEA 50mg & 5-HTP 10mg.

I am wondering if dosage of M-Drol is increased from 10mg to 20mg then to 30mg at begging of a pulse(Week 1).
Why would the dosage of M-DROL not be decreased on the last week? 30mg to 20mg to 10mg of a pulse(Week 8).

3x/wk pulse Sat, Tues, Thurs:
Week-M-DROL Dose(mg)
1 (10mg,20mg,30mg)
2 30mg
3 30mg
4 30mg
5 30mg
6 30mg
7 30mg
8 (30mg,20mg,10mg)
Taking 20mg before workout & 10 mg after workout.

As a side note, Daily taking following Vitamin’s & Supplements;
Vitamin C 1000 MG
Vitamin E 800 I.U.
Calcium 600 MG + D3 400 I.U.
Omega 3 Fish Oil 1000 MG

On Days going forward taking:
20mg M-DROL & BNS Volumaize. Post Workout taking 10mg M-DROL.
DHEA 50mg & 5-HTP 10mg
Beta Carotene 25000 I. U. & Zinc 50mg

I have Tamoxifen from India for PCT.

This pulse may be cut short, so it may be an experimentation shot pulse. Learning for the next pulse.
My Dr has referred me to have a Hernia Surgery Consultation next Wednesday Will be scheduling the date of the Hernia Surgery then. Have been told the scheduling of the Surgery could be a week to over a month depending on how urgent it is determined. So I will more than likely have to cut this pulse short. (Was just so excited after getting everything all together, did not want to have to wait until after recovery from Hernia Surgery. Decided to be a possible experimentation shot pulse.) I have learned a lot and it has been fun so far.
 
middleageguy said:
3x/wk pulse Sat, Tues, Thurs.
Pre Workout taking 20mg M-DROL & BNS Volumaize. Post Workout taking 10mg M-DROL.

I am starting my 3rd week of the Pulse. The first pulse day I took 20mg M-DROL. Every pulse since I have been taking 30mg of M-DROL.
So I have had a total of 6 on days.
I was 199lbs before start and today I am 206lbs.(Approximately 6ft 2in tall)
I understand there is water retention and some of this weight will go away after cycle is over.

Feel very pumped up during workout!! Can just feel IT in my veins. Not felt this since I was a teenager working out at the barbell club! Shoulders & Biceps look bigger, can feel pecks getting firmer.

Right off the bat got a zit(acne) on my chin, actually strangely happy knowing the M-DROL was working. Picked up some Beta Carotene & Zinc as this is what I used as a teen for acne. Been taking them daily and only had like 3 zits so far and all gone now(No Lumps, no real ache), will drop down to taking the Beta Carotene & Zinc on pulse days only now.

Each pulse day I have experienced (Lethargy) for several hours. (With the exception of one of them.) I am eating lots of carbohydrates post workout to try to combat this. Also tried eating some fruit to combat possible lower blood sugar levels. Did some research and picked up some DHEA & 5-HTP. Next pulse day intend to take DHEA 50mg & 5-HTP 10mg.

I am wondering if dosage of M-Drol is increased from 10mg to 20mg then to 30mg at begging of a pulse(Week 1).
Why would the dosage of M-DROL not be decreased on the last week? 30mg to 20mg to 10mg of a pulse(Week 8).

3x/wk pulse Sat, Tues, Thurs:
Week-M-DROL Dose(mg)
1 (10mg,20mg,30mg)
2 30mg
3 30mg
4 30mg
5 30mg
6 30mg
7 30mg
8 (30mg,20mg,10mg)
Taking 20mg before workout & 10 mg after workout.

As a side note, Daily taking following Vitamin’s & Supplements;
Vitamin C 1000 MG
Vitamin E 800 I.U.
Calcium 600 MG + D3 400 I.U.
Omega 3 Fish Oil 1000 MG

On Days going forward taking:
20mg M-DROL & BNS Volumaize. Post Workout taking 10mg M-DROL.
DHEA 50mg & 5-HTP 10mg
Beta Carotene 25000 I. U. & Zinc 50mg

I have Tamoxifen from India for PCT.

This pulse may be cut short, so it may be an experimentation shot pulse. Learning for the next pulse.
My Dr has referred me to have a Hernia Surgery Consultation next Wednesday Will be scheduling the date of the Hernia Surgery then. Have been told the scheduling of the Surgery could be a week to over a month depending on how urgent it is determined. So I will more than likely have to cut this pulse short. (Was just so excited after getting everything all together, did not want to have to wait until after recovery from Hernia Surgery. Decided to be a possible experimentation shot pulse.) I have learned a lot and it has been fun so far.
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You dont need a SERM for pulsing PCT. You dont get nearly as shutdown so there is really no need. The DHEA should be taken on OFF days to help with cortisol control, the fish oil should be 5-7pills a day(everday), up the Vit D to 3000 IU a day. (400 is jacksh!t), the Vit C should also be taken on OFF days to help with cort control. Split it into doses of 500mg, pre & post WO.
creatine on OFF days too.
 
Blacktail said:
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No stick in my ass at all. I also stand by my statement. This works with most drugs. Better than using half the dose. There is research already done on this, research you have not obviously read. I believe there was a study done with anabolics for people with chronic muscle wasting disease as well. The fact is that you do not know anything about what you are talking about and are merely stating your opinion. Which is worthless. :chairshot:
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I'm sorry, but you, sir, are an idiot. Take the USMLE and then talk to me...

get the picture?


also, the fact that a paper was published means nothing as far as its credibility goes. I have read many very poor primary research articles, many of which contained blatant misinformation. You need to read more than just one paper.
 
Turtlepecs said:
Has anyone on here ever pulsed oral winny ? Or do you think its too weak a compound to pulse on its own ?
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Eh. 9 hour half life, dunno if that would be a great pulsing steroid. Dbol would be a better choice if you're going ilegal aas
 
Yo turtlepecs, you want short half life orals on a pulse ex: epi, superdrol, and dbol

I pulsed epi with success, however the best results I have seen come from people pulsing superdrol
 
jman2003 said:
Any conclusion or results on pulsing Boladrol?
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I attempted to run a pulse, stopped it short 3 weeks in, was only getting sides at the high dose I was running

Although it is said that boladrol converts to a short half-life hormone, it usually takes users 2 weeks to start seeing results from the logs I have seen, making me think it needs time to "kick" in or "build" up, of course that's just my broscience theory, some people are also making gains week one, so who knows

However if I were to run it again, I would run it straight for 4-6 weeks cause the bloodwork that some of users has posted shows marginally raised liver values compared to say hdrol or superdrol

I have only seen bloodwork from ryansm and supersoldier, both were fine
 
jaydollars said:
I attempted to run a pulse, stopped it short 3 weeks in, was only getting sides at the high dose I was running

Although it is said that boladrol converts to a short half-life hormone, it usually takes users 2 weeks to start seeing results from the logs I have seen, making me think it needs time to "kick" in or "build" up, of course that's just my broscience theory, some people are also making gains week one, so who knows

However if I were to run it again, I would run it straight for 4-6 weeks cause the bloodwork that some of users has posted shows marginally raised liver values compared to say hdrol or superdrol

I have only seen bloodwork from ryansm and supersoldier, both were fine
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if boladrol had a 6 hr or 12 hr half life, this relevance is for pulsing and not how quickly it kicks in. take epi for example, ~6hr half life but often takes a few weeks to kick in. SD, ~6hr, but kicks in much faster.

i'd run boladrol straight too
 
i took mines maybe within a couple of hours of working out too ( as a pre-workout dose ) didn't feel too much..pulsed also. i'm gonna dose it throughout the day as it prob should be
 
What about pulsing SD, epi and tren. I want to pulse 3x a week.

m/w/f
sd and tren pre-workout
epi post workout.

i have inhibit-e and tropinol for test booster on off days.

I also have clen can i work some of it in to stay cut?
Can i take osta while pulsing or it is not recommended?
 
sitman said:
What about pulsing SD, epi and tren. I want to pulse 3x a week.

m/w/f
sd and tren pre-workout
epi post workout.

i have inhibit-e and tropinol for test booster on off days.

I also have clen can i work some of it in to stay cut?
Can i take osta while pulsing or it is not recommended?
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Only 3 orals?? Man You're a Lightweight.:laugh2:
 
dice404 said:
I'm sorry, but you, sir, are an idiot. Take the USMLE and then talk to me...

get the picture?


also, the fact that a paper was published means nothing as far as its credibility goes. I have read many very poor primary research articles, many of which contained blatant misinformation. You need to read more than just one paper.
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Except that those papers were put into practice numbnuts. :op: Your not a doctor either so GTFO.
 
Photo taken before Superdrol(M-DROL) 01-04-2011
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Photos taken LAST DAY OF PULSE at end of 8th week of second Pulse of Superdrol(M-DROL) 07-02-2011 (Pulse 8 weeks)
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The above Photos are the progress made.
Started going back to the Gym at 8/2010 and lifted & used the treadmill until some time before March 2011, lost 47lbs natural only.

During March, did first Pulse of Superdrol(Methyldrostanolone) brand M-DROL for 5 weeks. (Dosage taken on Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday)

Had hernia(inguinal) surgery beginning of April, [not related to working out, runs in family] out of gym for 7 weeks(Dr advised going back to gym after 6 weeks, took 1 week off prior to surgery).

Now doing my second Pulse of Superdrol(Methyldrostanolone) brand M-DROL and just started my 6th week and it may last up to 8 weeks. (Dosage taken on Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday)
Coming back slowly, not lifting heavy yet because of hernia(inguinal) surgery.
Doing lots of reps at lower weight, do not want to damage prior hernia doing too much weight too soon.


(Presently 44 Years Old approximately 208lbs 18% BF 6ft2in)
(Want to get down to approximately 10% BF someday, doing cardio, jogging at least 4miles in morning at least 3 times a week prior to eating breakfast)
(Dr advised to do cardio, jogging after hernia(inguinal) surgery. Started with 2 ½ hour walks a day and worked up after surgery)
(Unsure of target weight goal, would like 220lbs and 10% BF but may be dreaming)
I think photos show good progress over the last 6 months and 2 Pulses of Superdrol(Methyldrostanolone) brand M-DROL.
 
Sorry MiddleAgeGuy but you need to establish a muscle base before you jump into the steroids. Sure you made some gains but you could've done that naturally. If you dony know how to eat/train to get solid gains then all of your work will be for nothing, once your cycle is finished you will lose most of what you gain.
 
p5sky said:
Sorry MiddleAgeGuy but you need to establish a muscle base before you jump into the steroids. Sure you made some gains but you could've done that naturally. If you dony know how to eat/train to get solid gains then all of your work will be for nothing, once your cycle is finished you will lose most of what you gain.
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I use to workout back in the 80's for years.
I understand how to eat/train.
I also started to get solid gains from 8/2010 to some time before March 2011 natural only. Also slowly only.
I don't want to wait years working up naturally prior to using steroids, Superdrol(Methyldrostanolone) brand M-DROL.

After my last cycle finished I lost nothing. Then after hernia(inguinal) surgery I picked up where I left off.

I know my way around the gym and was doing it more than likely long before you were even thought of.
Yes I stoped going to the gym before you were born.
So now I'm back and don't want to wait years before I get big again. So I'm jump starting with steroids, Superdrol(Methyldrostanolone) brand M-DROL.
 
Good for you, bro. Go for the gusto.

And at your age, you could just go to a HRT doctor and get him to put you on injectable testosterone and really get some good gains going.
 
acctually thundergod dude, I wouldnt suggest that too quickly!...

Most doctors wont give you a prescription with large enough doses to get you to a real anabolilc result, and if you do that throught the doctor it wont look good on your record for ensurance comapanies, youre better off going under ground, once you find a good source.
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Epistane pulse cycle. 6 weeks long
TZ3 taken at night on Saturday/Sunday
DHEA taken on off days, 50mg

Week 1:
M - 10g
W- 20g
F - 30g
Week 2:
M - 20/10
W - 20/10
F - 20./10
Week 3:
M - 20/20
W - 20/20
F - 20/20
Week 4:
M - 20/20
W - 20/20
F - 20/20
Week 5:
M - 30/20
W - 30/20
F - 30/20
Week 6:
M - 30/20
W - 30/20
F - 30/20

First number indicating pre workout dose, second indicating post.

First ever cycle, probably my last. I just wanna lean out and make some strength gains. How does this look? I feel like I should up the dose significantly.

Would throwing in a small amount of superdrol be a good idea for the strength factor? Maybe 10g per pulse in the last two weeks of the cycle? Then I could possibly run a superdrol pulse cycle at a later time if this one doesn't suffice.
 
I finally finished this thread. There were a few mentions of running a SERM through the cycle, since you're basically doing EOD PCT. It would probably be prudent to keep dosage low, and to run a less hepatoxic SERM if you were to try this, since you're already stressing the liver with orals. Anyone play around with this to help reduce shutdown?
 
2x per week works, space dose on ph days, example sd 30mg, 10mg morning, then 10 4hra later and 10 mg 4 hrs again, you need to stay anabolic the whole day, workout full body, lots of carbs and tons of protein(2.5-3 grams per pound of body weight)since you will most likely do a long duration heigh weight workout if your trying to get results. Take good natty test boosters on days off like daa and dhea for cortisol.
 
amethyst said:
2x per week works, space dose on ph days, example sd 30mg, 10mg morning, then 10 4hra later and 10 mg 4 hrs again, you need to stay anabolic the whole day, workout full body, lots of carbs and tons of protein(2.5-3 grams per pound of body weight)since you will most likely do a long duration heigh weight workout if your trying to get results. Take good natty test boosters on days off like daa and dhea for cortisol.
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I was thinking of doing this, my shifts at work make me have to choose workout days that are different every week.

So i was thinking 2 heavy workouts a week focusing on squats deadlifts and bench press and pulse superdrol on these days?

Which of the following would be better for minimising sides and maximising gains with minimal support.

Epistane every day at low dose i.e. 20mg for 6 weeks.
Superdrol pulse 3 days on and 4 days off for 6 weeks.
 
my friend did that superdrol version, 14 days since last day. Gained mass, got more ripped.
20mg mon-tues-wed- and trained more days than that. Gained strenght and size even the off days.
14 days since last dose, no smaller, continues to make progress. only pct. daa and greenmag creatine.
Best of all, no post cycle crash, he only noticed that strength gains slowed down, but no weaker.

But dont expect a 15lbs blowup, more like 5-8lbs, but keepable, and most likely pct free , since 3 days on and 4 days to revcover, will not likely shut you down at all, while eod, in my sense of logic, could very well shut you down, if you dont recover quick enough.

But I only know 1 test subject, until next 1-2 months, then 3 of us will run it like this.

considering havoc gave me backpumps and aches , along with high BP (155/90-95, from 130/75) , I wont even consider a straight sd cycle, the alternative is never to use again.
(Yep, I used hawthorne berry,)
 
woodbear said:
my friend did that superdrol version, 14 days since last day. Gained mass, got more ripped.
20mg mon-tues-wed- and trained more days than that. Gained strenght and size even the off days.
14 days since last dose, no smaller, continues to make progress. only pct. daa and greenmag creatine.
Best of all, no post cycle crash, he only noticed that strength gains slowed down, but no weaker.

But dont expect a 15lbs blowup, more like 5-8lbs, but keepable, and most likely pct free , since 3 days on and 4 days to revcover, will not likely shut you down at all, while eod, in my sense of logic, could very well shut you down, if you dont recover quick enough.

But I only know 1 test subject, until next 1-2 months, then 3 of us will run it like this.

considering havoc gave me backpumps and aches , along with high BP (155/90-95, from 130/75) , I wont even consider a straight sd cycle, the alternative is never to use again.
(Yep, I used hawthorne berry,)
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This version seems to be what i want, 3 days on 4 off i can imagine would be a lot better for recovery.

Did he do PCT or anything on the off days? How long did he run the cycle for, id rather gain less over a longer period so the gains are keepable lol
 
nothing on off days. 4 weeks.
better to do 4 weeks on 4 weeks off, maybe 2months off sometimes is our thinking.
That is his plan until the bottle of 90 pills run out. That should make for a good year of gains, that will not make everyone around you accuse you of being on... but I`ll let you guys know, how the next round goes when he tries again.
But offcourse, it would be more fun doing a straight cycle and transform
 
jibba_128 said:
This version seems to be what i want, 3 days on 4 off i can imagine would be a lot better for recovery.

Did he do PCT or anything on the off days? How long did he run the cycle for, id rather gain less over a longer period so the gains are keepable lol
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really then a moderate dose testosterone cycle is a better bet.
 
woodbear said:
nothing on off days. 4 weeks.
better to do 4 weeks on 4 weeks off, maybe 2months off sometimes is our thinking.
That is his plan until the bottle of 90 pills run out. That should make for a good year of gains, that will not make everyone around you accuse you of being on... but I`ll let you guys know, how the next round goes when he tries again.
But offcourse, it would be more fun doing a straight cycle and transform
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So he gets away with no PCT, pretty cool, yeh but with a straight cycle sides are there, people will notice, you will be shutdown more it seems and you will lose a lot of your gains
 
bumping this topic... for those of you with knowledge of pulsing... ment has a half-life of like 40 min to 3 hours
any thoughts on pulsing the very potent ment?? (10x more anabolic than test?)
 
you can also find yourself a bottle of methoxy TST which turned out to be just plain oral turinabol.
easier to source id assume
 
My friend is on his second sd pulse, 3on 4off, up4lbs in one week...off days his libdio skyrockets fromthe test rebound. .My epi/havoc cycle even with perfect pct was not stellar, so if im ever doing any form off aas again it will be an sd pulse.He even survives a few beers during the off days of the weekend. Good stuffHe did no pct, other than daa the month off, and suffered no ills, continued to gain all the way up to his second pulse now, albeit alot slower than on... Kept all gains from the first, and contiuned to gain.. Only thing that changed off was that his bp went down to normal, and his vascularity became normal
 
_mArs_ said:
bumping this topic... for those of you with knowledge of pulsing... ment has a half-life of like 40 min to 3 hours
any thoughts on pulsing the very potent ment?? (10x more anabolic than test?)
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seeing how it is/was looked at to be used as a form of male birth control, i dont think pulsing this, or any compound will help you.
 
Wow this is an old thread! I think I remember reading this like three years ago lol
 
jbryand101b said:
seeing how it is/was looked at to be used as a form of male birth control, i dont think pulsing this, or any compound will help you.
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Yikes!!!
Do not want!
 
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