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How many use agmatine for health benefits?

mtinsideout said:
I hope your product is reasonably priced and works for the sake of the people taking it. Marketing to cancer patients (people desperate for help) and boasting good sales is a bold move...
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i can't market to cancer patients until I meet certain FDA requirements, if I could sales would be much easier, but in the end I would really just like for the product to be able to help a lot of people. The cancer statistics are scary, 1 out of 2 men and 1 out of 3 women will get some form of cancer in their lives. My product will cost the same or less as my main competitors but offer far more benefits. The only form of advertising I can really do that is geared towards cancer is donating to different cancer specific organizations and then possibly being able to use their logo on advertising.
 
hurdlemaker said:
i can't market to cancer patients until I meet certain FDA requirements, if I could sales would be much easier, but in the end I would really just like for the product to be able to help a lot of people. The cancer statistics are scary, 1 out of 2 men and 1 out of 3 women will get some form of cancer in their lives. My product will cost the same or less as my main competitors but offer far more benefits. The only form of advertising I can really do that is geared towards cancer is donating to different cancer specific organizations and then possibly being able to use their logo on advertising.
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I'm glad to hear you mention donating to various cancer organizations. I hope your product actually can help patients whether it be through the supplement itself or funding new research or both.
 
hurdlemaker said:
sorry for not posting original references. That was purely from my head, not copied and pasted from somewhere, I've read many many articles at this point and would have to go back to find ones pertaining to your specific questions. Also sorry for feeling so insulted. You said you have a spine injury?
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Yes sir

L5-S1 herniatiin

Second specialist tomorrow to see if its a protrusion or extrusion
 
USPlabsRep said:
Someone needs to plug there Agmatine product...

Agmatine "what doesn't it do?"
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their agmatine over there is more better than theirs there
 
Yeah, I used to buy it from this company, but then found much cheaper sources, I would still recommend their's tho :-)

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EBF Inc said:
Last year. Reinsured 29 days ago
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well i highly recommend doing rehabilitation instead of surgery unless yours is really extreme. If you want to pm me I can give u some advice on how I fixed my issue. Mine was stemming from a car accident I was in during 2003, I was sitting at a stop light with my family and an old man in a big Lincoln towncar smashed into us doing 65mph, didn't hit the brakes, but I didn't actually herniate the disk until a good 5 years later. I was doing a warm up set on squats with 225 (I had done 565 for 6) and I was on my 11 rep and it just popped. Couldn't move. Had to squat the weight up and rack it and then just leaned against the wall for a bit. Then had to walk like a robot to the parking lot and fall into my car haha. Mobility was gone. Hard thing to recover from but I was determined. Luckily I haven't ever messed it up since, I had one day that was close, but I just avoid lifts like squats and dead lifts, anything that really taxes that area hard. Like I said if u want any advice just ask and I hope you get better. That's a ****ty thing to have happen, but it's not the end of the world.
 
i use agmatine daily regardless of whether its as a pre workout or not. ive read a lot of articles on its positive nutrient partitioning effects
 
hurdlemaker said:
well i highly recommend doing rehabilitation instead of surgery unless yours is really extreme. If you want to pm me I can give u some advice on how I fixed my issue. Mine was stemming from a car accident I was in during 2003, I was sitting at a stop light with my family and an old man in a big Lincoln towncar smashed into us doing 65mph, didn't hit the brakes, but I didn't actually herniate the disk until a good 5 years later. I was doing a warm up set on squats with 225 (I had done 565 for 6) and I was on my 11 rep and it just popped. Couldn't move. Had to squat the weight up and rack it and then just leaned against the wall for a bit. Then had to walk like a robot to the parking lot and fall into my car haha. Mobility was gone. Hard thing to recover from but I was determined. Luckily I haven't ever messed it up since, I had one day that was close, but I just avoid lifts like squats and dead lifts, anything that really taxes that area hard. Like I said if u want any advice just ask and I hope you get better. That's a ****ty thing to have happen, but it's not the end of the world.
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Absolutely man

Thank you
 
Estevato58 said:
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It does not go well with L-arginine and l- citruline, yohimbine or DAA, lol. I haven't used agmatine since I read this. Agmatine activated the a2A receptor that yohimbine inhibits, and it doesn't go good w DAA due to reducing signaling via the NMDA receptors...
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That would mean stay away from high volume?as it contains both in high doses
 
hurdlemaker said:
Yeah, I used to buy it from this company, but then found much cheaper sources, I would still recommend their's tho :-)

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Mind sharing? I need to re up soon
 
hurdlemaker said:
well i highly recommend doing rehabilitation instead of surgery unless yours is really extreme. If you want to pm me I can give u some advice on how I fixed my issue. Mine was stemming from a car accident I was in during 2003, I was sitting at a stop light with my family and an old man in a big Lincoln towncar smashed into us doing 65mph, didn't hit the brakes, but I didn't actually herniate the disk until a good 5 years later. I was doing a warm up set on squats with 225 (I had done 565 for 6) and I was on my 11 rep and it just popped. Couldn't move. Had to squat the weight up and rack it and then just leaned against the wall for a bit. Then had to walk like a robot to the parking lot and fall into my car haha. Mobility was gone. Hard thing to recover from but I was determined. Luckily I haven't ever messed it up since, I had one day that was close, but I just avoid lifts like squats and dead lifts, anything that really taxes that area hard. Like I said if u want any advice just ask and I hope you get better. That's a ****ty thing to have happen, but it's not the end of the world.
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Dang sounds very similar to my injury... except I injured mine doing a warm up set of bent over barbell rows. Could barely walk/sit down in a seat for the next few weeks until I got several chiropractor adjustments (helped tremendously). I still have not squatted or deadlifted since the injury... which sucks. I don't even feel comfortable doing heavy leg pressing either sense it puts pressure on the sacral/coccyx area (which is where I injured mine). Feels like I'll never be able to build my legs up again, sadly. Leg extensions just aren't making em grow :(
 
So, for general health benefits what dose is everyone using? Would 500 mg twice each day (morning and afternoon) be better than taking 1 g in the morning (and nothing in the afternoon)...or does it not really matter?
 
tristen22001 said:
So, for general health benefits what dose is everyone using? Would 500 mg twice each day (morning and afternoon) be better than taking 1 g in the morning (and nothing in the afternoon)...or does it not really matter?
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Depends. I go 1 gram prior to my two highest carb meals per day. But you can do 500mg twice a day, or 1 gram pre-workout, 1 gram pre-bed, 500mg pre-bed, etc. Many ways to go about it.
 
kbayne said:
Depends. I go 1 gram prior to my two highest carb meals per day. But you can do 500mg twice a day, or 1 gram pre-workout, 1 gram pre-bed, 500mg pre-bed, etc. Many ways to go about it.
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Thank you for the response. I'm thinking about trying 1 g of Agmatine and 1 g of ALCAR about a half hour before breakfast. I'm hoping the ALCAR will help provide focus before work and the Agmatine help with anxiety (and also hopefully help with the lower back pain I experience every morning due to a bulging disc).
 
tristen22001 said:
Thank you for the response. I'm thinking about trying 1 g of Agmatine and 1 g of ALCAR about a half hour before breakfast. I'm hoping the ALCAR will help provide focus before work and the Agmatine help with anxiety (and also hopefully help with the lower back pain I experience every morning due to a bulging disc).
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ALCAR + Agmatine is also great due to its potential effects on AMPK and cAMP, respectively.
 
Wouldn't it be better to take ALCAR at the same exact time as the meal since the carbs help the Carnitine go into the muscles or whatever or does the half hour not make that much of a difference?
 
Quadzilla99 said:
Wouldn't it be better to take ALCAR at the same exact time as the meal since the carbs help the Carnitine go into the muscles or whatever or does the half hour not make that much of a difference?
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I'm not sure about that. I mainly just take it for the nootropic benefits and slight boost in energy it seems to provide (which I notice more when taking it on an empty stomach).
 
Quadzilla99 said:
Wouldn't it be better to take ALCAR at the same exact time as the meal since the carbs help the Carnitine go into the muscles or whatever or does the half hour not make that much of a difference?
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Good point given how carnitine is insulinogenic. ALCAR I believe has a peak serum level around 3 hours after dosing so I'm not sure if that's relevant either.
 
hurdlemaker said:
I'm not trying to act as a professional nor am I representing any of my companies on this forum. I am here purely for fun and sharing information. But having some turd talk down to me in such a way is more than frustrating, and this isn't the first time this person has annoyed me. He may copy and paste tons of studies he finds but I don't see how his knowledge of bodybuilding supplements leads him to being knowledgable about anti-cancer supplements.
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The thing is these studies will often change, something new will come out and then we will all be preaching something different in a year. The information we have on hand is the best we have at the moment but saying it's 100% truth set in stone is irresponsible in my opinion. I think we all need to have grace with each other and realize that we could possibly be wrong. Maybe not now but in a few years. Look at GMS. People would ridicule you for taking it like 5 years ago. Now thanks to ARA and other supplements it's probably one of the hottest on the market right now. Things change.
 
fightbackhxc said:
The thing is these studies will often change, something new will come out and then we will all be preaching something different in a year. The information we have on hand is the best we have at the moment but saying it's 100% truth set in stone is irresponsible in my opinion. I think we all need to have grace with each other and realize that we could possibly be wrong. Maybe not now but in a few years. Look at GMS. People would ridicule you for taking it like 5 years ago. Now thanks to ARA and other supplements it's probably one of the hottest on the market right now. Things change.
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That's science.
 
fightbackhxc said:
The thing is these studies will often change, something new will come out and then we will all be preaching something different in a year. The information we have on hand is the best we have at the moment but saying it's 100% truth set in stone is irresponsible in my opinion. I think we all need to have grace with each other and realize that we could possibly be wrong. Maybe not now but in a few years. Look at GMS. People would ridicule you for taking it like 5 years ago. Now thanks to ARA and other supplements it's probably one of the hottest on the market right now. Things change.
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did you quote me for a specific reason? I don't see how what your saying has to do with my quote? Of course science evolves, I was annoyed at the person for telling me to "leave it to the professionals" not that they had a differing opinion
 
Monte Brogan said:
The more I learn about agmatine, the more impressed I become. We all know about its merit in pre-workouts. But how many members here simply use it for health benefits on a daily basis?I'm thinking about adding it to my daily routine...Monte
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Monte, agmatine has quickly became one of my favorite sups. I am extremely happy Formutech is releasing a raw of it. I have been using it for years and love it.
 
I've done 1500mg pre workout without adverse effects. If I were trying to take a "max" dose personally I would do 1gram pre workout in the morning, 500mg mid day and 500mg before bed.
 
I do a gram with my two biggest carb meals and then 1-2 scoops of Enhanced (500-1000mg).
 
kbayne said:
I do a gram with my two biggest carb meals and then 1-2 scoops of Enhanced (500-1000mg).
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I've gone this high before as well. Always 1g with preworkout, 500-1000 mg with breakfast/dinner depending on meal size
 
Personally I ain't listenin to no scientist cuz they always lyin and gettin me pissed

But thats just me.
 
EBF Inc said:
3G a day is simply great


500 morning

1000 pre

500 intra

500 post

500 dinner

500 pre bed
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Did this dosing schedule have a profound impact on body composition? At 1g per day I swear I keep fat off a bit easier than I normally would. Have always wondered about getting up in the 2-3g/day range.
 
I use 1500mg Agmatine daily, on/off workout days. I would like to think its benefiting to my training regime, health etc...but like most supps including my current stack, no noticeable changes.
 
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