Just saw that Iforce is coming out with a new pre-workout, was wondering if anyone has any insight on Hemavo2 and what the release date or the flavors might be? Any reps pls respond!!!!!!
how do u figure?Looks pretty disappointing TBH. http://www.stack3d.com/2015/01/iforce-hemavol-max-ingredients.html
HV has it beat completely imo.
Lol wat? higher dosed agmatine, full dosed Betaine, legit nootropics, 7 more servings per tub, full creatine doses, and more...Looks pretty disappointing TBH. http://www.stack3d.com/2015/01/iforce-hemavol-max-ingredients.html
HV has it beat completely imo.
compared to which ones? Remember some of them are two scoops to reach those numbers. I am by no means frothing at it but I really only think HV beats it.Cant understand why everyone is frothing over this new hemov2, it looks mediocre to me compared to others available atm.
High volume, Megatron and conqu3r demigod stim free to name a few.compared to which ones? Remember some of them are two scoops to reach those numbers. I am by no means frothing at it but I really only think HV beats it.
megatron doesn't beat it. No nitrates, citrulline Malate, smaller doses. Same thing with conquer. I'm not taking non stim pre. I'm focusing on pump. They have some other goodies in there but head to head on the pump I think HV then this.High volume, Megatron and conqu3r demigod stim free to name a few.
Did they end up taking out nitrates from megatron???? Da fuqmegatron doesn't beat it. No nitrates, citrulline Malate, smaller doses. Same thing with conquer. I'm not taking non stim pre. I'm focusing on pump. They have some other goodies in there but head to head on the pump I think HV then this.
I don't think they want to license them or RK won't license them (not positive) that's why they removed them from fierce domination after it was released.Did they end up taking out nitrates from megatron???? Da fuq
L-Citrulline (4,000 mg), Arginine Nitrate (NO3-T™) (2,000 mg), Agmatine Sulfate (1,000 mg)Same amount of Agmatine? 1g compared to 500mg. Are we looking at the same formula here? I have a feeling we're not...
Well when i saw the label it had nitrates, without them its very mediocre...I don't think they want to license them or RK won't license them (not positive) that's why they removed them from fierce domination after it was released.
Jeeze, who farted in your cereal this morning? So touchy, much anger.L-Citrulline (4,000 mg), Arginine Nitrate (NO3-T™) (2,000 mg), Agmatine Sulfate (1,000 mg)
are you blind or just illiterate? Don't waste my time, I know you're an iForce rep
Normally I don't respond like that but your arrogance TWICE was unnecessary, especially since I clarified and said PER SERVING. Now you are going to talk about the entire tub? Thanks for the 1g of Creatine HCL, I appreciate the full dose(for a small child). I'm not even a HV diehard.....but I'm sorry, as a pump product, this loses to HV......period.Jeeze, who farted in your cereal this morning? So touchy, much anger.
Brb 18g vs 25g in a tub. Yup, same amount.
Thank you.Looks pretty disappointing TBH. Just 3 original ingredients kept on for the iForce sequel Hemavol Max | Stack3d Supplement News
HV has it beat completely imo.
Liked the original. Clueless as to why they would try to improve an already great product. Hopefully they keep making OG. New formula doesn't wow meLooks pretty disappointing TBH. http://www.stack3d.com/2015/01/iforce-hemavol-max-ingredients.html HV has it beat completely imo.
both will be sold at the same time.Liked the original. Clueless as to why they would try to improve an already great product. Hopefully they keep making OG. New formula doesn't wow me
Who cares about taste? Effectiveness is all I care about. I took to chugging down unflavored bulk ingredients for my pwo because I wanted what worked best for me in the doses I require. Never been a PWO consumer of brand names. But OG hemavol was awesomeIf it comes out at a good intro price, tastes good, and is effective, does it matter? I was just inquiring about when the release may be, would like to guive it a try, to see how I respond to it.
Goodboth will be sold at the same time.
Let's not let this get nasty. I don't usually post product comparisons but as Vaughn compared agmatine I thought we should look at the other ingredients he left out. I even said I liked the profile.y'all forgot the 2g of HydroMAX in hemavo2 vs <2g of HydroMAX
while, those are the ingredients shared, if we look at the entire formula as a whole you're still missing
2.5g of betaine + DMAE + Choline vs taurine, amento, Rutaecarpine...
while everyone was high on amento, no seems to want to answer NOHYPEs comments on amento.
Could you post the bb.com thread link, im interested.Let's not let this get nasty. I don't usually post product comparisons but as Vaughn compared agmatine I thought we should look at the other ingredients he left out. I even said I liked the profile. I was sticking to the pump based ingredients as that is specifically what carmaf commented on. Cyrus has already replied regarding amentoflavone. He posted it on BB.com yesterday. Let's not forget that we pay a premium to licence nitrates through Thermolife legitimately. In terms of pump (fair product focus as you call it the 'King of Pumps') I still stick to what I said originally, High Volume comes out on top.
Yes http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=165875501&p=1329102831&viewfull=1#post1329102831Could you post the bb.com thread link, im interested.
That's what I was thinking. It's like a cult for some people around here with certain brands. Unreal.Lol wat? higher dosed agmatine, full dosed Betaine, legit nootropics, 7 more servings per tub, full creatine doses, and more... Brb disappointed.
them math skills though!! I'm pretty sure Vaughn also replied to a comment I left of Facebook, and although I do agree with him that this version of hemavol looks better than the original, I fail to see how it is superior to HV (aside from more servings per container but I believe price per serving is more important)Thank you. I actually quite like the Hemavo2 profile, especially compared to the last one. Vaughn is right, there is more agmatine in Hemavo2, however: High Volume has 2,000mg L-Citrulline per scoop. Hemavo2 has 2,000mg L-Citrulline per scoop. High Volume has 36 scoops per container versus the 25 in Hemavo2. This is 72,000mg (72g) total per container in High Volume vs 50,000mg (50g) in Hemavo2 (almost 50% more). High Volume has 1,000mg arginine nitrate per scoop. Hemavo2 has 1,000mg creatine nitrate per scoop. This is a total of 36,000mg (36g arginine nitrate) in High Volume vs 25,000mg (25g creatine nitrate) in Hemavo2 (almost 50% more). Total per container is used as a fair comparison because you can't compare scoops/servings unless there are the same number of servings per tub. If you used 1.5 scoops High Volume you would have 27 servings (2 more than Hemavo2) and this would yield 750mg agmatine, 1.5g arginine nitrate and 3g L-Citrulline per serving (75% dose of agmatine comparably, 150% dose of arginine nitrate vs creatine nitrate and 150% dose of L-Citrulline). So I would agree with what has been said in the thread. If you want the best pump and are looking for these ingredients specifically, I would still opt for High Volume.
Sounds like you wasted your own time. Trying a product is usually the best way to know how it works. Formula looks great, looking fwd to this.Ben I understand you may be getting more Agmatine per tub, as I understood it when the iForce rep said it originally, but I said PER SERVING, and as a consumer, I only care about PER SERVING. When I buy a product, it doesn't matter if there are 100 servings or 1; as long as I know what I'm paying for, and get what I'm paying for, that's all I care about. I know HV only has 18 servings if you use 2 scoops(I've never needed more than 1.5 at BEST, usually 1), but that's what I agreed to pay for and that's what I got. Also realistically, if you are taking a product as a pre-workout, you want as many ingredients as possible in the serving you take right then and there, PRE workout. No one thinks "oh well I'm only getting 1g of Creatine now, but if I take the entire tub, I will be getting more Creatine in the long run". I also don't care about the nootropics in this formula at all bc 1.) No stim-free pre, nootropics or not, will EVER beat a stimmed pre for focus, energy etc. and 2.) The nootropics and all the other additions if anything will make it harder to stack with stimmed pres than just a pure pump product like HV or the old Hemavol. This has nothing to do with High Volume being better than Hemavol2(which it most certainly is). This has to do with the fact that I was really hyped up and looking forward to see what iForce were going to do with Hemavol2, and when they released this, it was a HUGE disappointment. I normally don't like to be critical on the internet, but Hemavol isn't the king of pump products anymore. You guys went back to the drawing board to get back on top and you came out with THIS? What a joke. You deserve the criticism. The only way I see Hemavol2 being a decent product is if it were somehow DIRT cheap, but I doubt that will happen. Like I said before, don't waste my time.
So let's backtrack. Earlier you just said hemavo2 has 7 more doses than HV dose. True if your comparing HV at 2 scoops to one of your own products. But then you want to use the profile of HV at one scoop to plead your case that your own product has more agmatine. Either compare the products scoop for scoop or compare your product to 2 scoops of HV. But don't flip flop back and forth to make your product look superior.Same amount of Agmatine? 1g compared to 500mg. Are we looking at the same formula here? I have a feeling we're not...
you really trust giant to meet label claims? I guess if it works for you it works for you but I'd rather support other companies I can trust.I have no desire to try the hemavol but I'm such a pump guy ill prob end up buying it, i can't resist but as of right now 1. high volume 2. giant pump 3. noxygen This is off the recommended dosage and how well it works for me.
Two is where it's at tho lolIf we said High Volume was 1 scoop per serving, we could say it is 36 servings which would be the most number of servings for this category. But we know people who buy PES are hardcore, and want the maximum serving size of 2. Granted, now that the product has been out for some time many if you are finding 1-1.5 scoops superior to anything else used prior, and plenty for your workouts.
doesnt your label have 36scoops on the front of the label?? lolIf we said High Volume was 1 scoop per serving, we could say it is 36 servings which would be the most number of servings for this category. But we know people who buy PES are hardcore, and want the maximum serving size of 2. Granted, now that the product has been out for some time many if you are finding 1-1.5 scoops superior to anything else used prior, and plenty for your workouts.
Does it say 36 servings on the front label?doesnt your label have 36scoops on the front of the label?? lol
This is expected yet always nice to hear.I have no desire to try the hemavol but I'm such a pump guy ill prob end up buying it, i can't resist but as of right now
1. high volume
2. giant pump
3. noxygen
This is off the recommended dosage and how well it works for me.
My tub of Hemavol says 32 servings on the front and "consume 1-2 servings" on the back.doesnt your label have 36scoops on the front of the label?? lol
You're hurting High Volumes feelings with that tub of Hemavol in its presence.My tub of Hemavol says 32 servings on the front and "consume 1-2 servings" on the back. Just saying.