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GHRP-6 worth it?

I'd use IGF for local healing and growth.
 
truthornothin said:
According to all I've read and personal experience 6 is not as good as 2, I'm never buying 6 again, I still have 4 vials of it, I got noticiable bloat and gained some fat while on it, back on 2 bloat and fat... schwoop disappeared in a week. According to everything else I read, ghrp 2 causes only a minor raise in cortisol and prolactin, it was created after 6, the next generation as it were, Ipamorelin is supposed to raise prolactin the least but I get the least results from it. So I'm sticking with 2. Is that a fair appraisal Darkhalf? Oh and check out the before and afters of my CJC 1295 Ghrp 2 cycle
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That is a fair appraisal....great work btw
 
NorthEasBeast said:
Very nice definition truthornothin! (a little proof to back up your advise... if only every forum post on the internet was like that).

I almost earned myself a new reputation at work, nearly getting caught viewing your pictures though.
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Sorry about that these pics were taken for my girl friend I'm in a very long distance relationship, Oh and I am 46 years old too, trust me its harder to do when you get over 40,More injury prone I tore my left bicep off the bone two years ago and its been a struggle to get back to where I was. I just want it more I want to be 50 and have people say no F'ing way. As far as proof of my advice I don't talk S**t I can't back up :P
 
TheDarkHalf said:
That is a fair appraisal....great work btw
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Thanks Darkhalf, been at it for 26 years off and on. Would you believe that 12 years ago I weighed almost 300 sloppy pounds and had a 40" waist, now 32". At 46 I am in the best shape of my life
 
Milas said:
I'd use IGF for local healing and growth.
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My initial interest in peptides revolved around IGF-1 (mostly for vanity and strength, not for any healing properties.) Recently, my thought process has been that if I'm going to enter the world of peptide injections I would take the systemic approach for full body muscle growth and healing properties. I was also told that IGF-1, acting through a negative feedback control mechanism, inhibits further production of gh. That's when I started looking at the ghrp/ cjc stack potential.

-If opting for the localized IM injections, where should I focus my research... Igf-1 longr3 or IGF-1ec?
-If I'm trying to get localized healing in my lower vertebrae (but still want systemic results) where is the best injection site? (lower back muscles, upper butt?)
 
NorthEasBeast said:
My initial interest in peptides revolved around IGF-1 (mostly for vanity and strength, not for any healing properties.) Recently, my thought process has been that if I'm going to enter the world of peptide injections I would take the systemic approach for full body muscle growth and healing properties. I was also told that IGF-1, acting through a negative feedback control mechanism, inhibits further production of gh. That's when I started looking at the ghrp/ cjc stack potential.

-If opting for the localized IM injections, where should I focus my research... Igf-1 longr3 or IGF-1ec?
-If I'm trying to get localized healing in my lower vertebrae (but still want systemic results) where is the best injection site? (lower back muscles, upper butt?)
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1. IGF-1 DES, it acts faster/greater and more directly. lr3 is more systemic since it will travel out of the injection site and continue to work for a longer period of time. For some reason I thought it was the IGF that was responsible for a lot of the repair activity of GH (once GH hits the liver and signals release of IGF that is).
2. As close to the injury/joint as possible.

For your purposes, having more systemic effects through GH and IGF may be better though.
 
I just finished GHRP6 + CJC cycle. I run both for 12w together wit AAS. great gains, pumps, felt really good on it, only thing what i really hate is sweating on GHRP6, i felt really bad and uncomfortable cos i just cant stop my sweating... :P
 
Cartal said:
I just finished GHRP6 + CJC cycle. I run both for 12w together wit AAS. great gains, pumps, felt really good on it, only thing what i really hate is sweating on GHRP6, i felt really bad and uncomfortable cos i just cant stop my sweating... :P
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I never thought it could be GHRP causing my body temperature rise, but I have been WAY OFF THE CHARTS on being over heated. I assumed it was the T3 and Cellucor T7. But, I have been running T3 for the entire cycle and this heat surge only began once I introduced GHRP-2 and CJC1295 NO DAC.
 
need info!

SouthernCharm said:
lol thats quite the little ****tail bro. Wouldn't recommend that for most people unfortunately lol..



You don't need PCT for these two items. It's not like exogenous hormones, it's something that makes your body release more of your own endogenous growth hormone.
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What would u recommend for me? im 18 recovering from a shoulder reconstruction its been about 7 weeks now, i don't quite have full range of movement but i heard it does help heal your shoulder... and is it detectable via piss test for sports? please let me know asap! im thinking of running 20mg anavar, 100 mcg ghrp-6/2 per day and cjc 1295 about every three days until i heal what should i do? and what are your thoughts
 
Outstanding said:
I never thought it could be GHRP causing my body temperature rise, but I have been WAY OFF THE CHARTS on being over heated. I assumed it was the T3 and Cellucor T7. But, I have been running T3 for the entire cycle and this heat surge only began once I introduced GHRP-2 and CJC1295 NO DAC.
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Yeah i sweat massively, i was running a cycle during the summer and boy i never seen such a thing..... Everyone was always wondering what was wrong with me. I gained a gut off of it from eating so much..... So for me im running those cycles during the winter and switching to ghrp2 maybe i wont eat as much lol
 
I hypothesized that GHrp's and GHRH's do in fact raise gh levels, but seem to be lipogenic rather than lipolytic. After researching with several GHRP's I truly believe that 6 is GREAT for weight gain via ghrelin production and also some water retention for joints etc... If these peptides truly behaved like rhgh than you would NOT have to fast for hours, do tons of low intensity cardio etc...to achieve fat loss, hell doing that regardless will get drastic results.

rhgh at the RIGHT dose lets users disregard perfectly meticulous nutrition to a certain extent and STILL oxidize body fat. I feel these peptides are GREAT for gaining size....just not ideal for utmost fat loss.
 
help

also what are your thoughts about the rest of the information i have given above? with my shoulder, dosages etc ps im 96 kg and about 192 cm
 
I was researching with GHRP-2 and CJC-1295 for almost a year and made some good lean gains. I had used GH in the past but for whatever reason it almost made me bloat. I never bloated on peptides. About a month ago I decided to stop the peps because of an increased lack of trust that I had with these companies online. Really weird industry.

So I decided to try cabergolean by NRC and I have not lost any of the gains that I made. As a matter of fact I have seemed to have to overcome a plateau I was stuck at for a while since quitting the peps and using the cabergolean.

And for whatever it is worth I have seen my best gains in the past with IGF-1. More so than peps or GH. But it makes me really hyperglycemic. Or hypo I should say I guess?

Anyway I was pretty freaked out about stopping the peps, but I have not lost anything with the cabergolean.

Much love.
 
shockey44 said:
I was researching with GHRP-2 and CJC-1295 for almost a year and made some good lean gains. I had used GH in the past but for whatever reason it almost made me bloat. I never bloated on peptides. About a month ago I decided to stop the peps because of an increased lack of trust that I had with these companies online. Really weird industry.

So I decided to try cabergolean by NRC and I have not lost any of the gains that I made. As a matter of fact I have seemed to have to overcome a plateau I was stuck at for a while since quitting the peps and using the cabergolean.

And for whatever it is worth I have seen my best gains in the past with IGF-1. More so than peps or GH. But it makes me really hyperglycemic. Or hypo I should say I guess?

Anyway I was pretty freaked out about stopping the peps, but I have not lost anything with the cabergolean.

Much love.
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Shockey may I ask...

what brand of gh did you use? what dose? also igf-1 R3 is just not up to par as of late. It seems very few companies have quality L3 and the ones that do have the price 200 which makes sense....
 
I got a few kits from a buddy- 30 vials to be exact. They had blue caps and were in some generic white box but he claimed they were good stuff. I do not recall the name. I did get big- real big! But I always looked so freaking bloated. It was just not a good experience for me. The peptides worked out much better for me.

I have other "supplements" I take of course, and the cabergolean (so far) is doing exactly what the peptides did, so I am going to try and go that route for as long as I can. I think I might try out your V3 series when it comes out. I like what I have read about your PH's.

Much love.

MattPorter said:
Shockey may I ask...

what brand of gh did you use? what dose? also igf-1 R3 is just not up to par as of late. It seems very few companies have quality L3 and the ones that do have the price 200 which makes sense....
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shockey44 said:
I got a few kits from a buddy- 30 vials to be exact. They had blue caps and were in some generic white box but he claimed they were good stuff. I do not recall the name. I did get big- real big! But I always looked so freaking bloated. It was just not a good experience for me. The peptides worked out much better for me.

I have other "supplements" I take of course, and the cabergolean (so far) is doing exactly what the peptides did, so I am going to try and go that route for as long as I can. I think I might try out your V3 series when it comes out. I like what I have read about your PH's.

Much love.
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Yea its russian roulette with generics....

However after 3 kits you should have noticed fat loss and a tighter/fuller look?

Yes new v3 will be leading hormones legally in every way, shape and form, some of the beta testers results have made me say "damn...really?"

a past aas user gaining 13 lbs with ZERO change in BF% ,,,,makes me say hmm....
 
I know that I lost body fat and gained muscle with the kits. My waste shrunk and I did look more muscular, but my face was always bloated and if my diet was off at all or I went on a bender for one night I would blow up with water retention. I do not think that my negative reaction was normal, for whatever reason I was bloated with water all of the time.

13 lbs with zero change in BF%!!! ****!!! When does that product come out???



MattPorter said:
Yea its russian roulette with generics....

However after 3 kits you should have noticed fat loss and a tighter/fuller look?

Yes new v3 will be leading hormones legally in every way, shape and form, some of the beta testers results have made me say "damn...really?"

a past aas user gaining 13 lbs with ZERO change in BF% ,,,,makes me say hmm....
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Noopy said:
Hmmm im not quite ready for rHGH, just more interested in grp6 and cjc 1295 as it does not halt my natural hgh
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I understand completely......I just prefer peptides for weight gain, off-season opposed to cutting. Peps are relatively cheap and do "spice" things up
 
so i literally just read this entire thread from page one...

my plan is to use these peps throughout a pct and down the road maybe 6-9 months after the cycle.... is that considered safe?

thought something along the lines of

cjc1295 no dac 100mg 3x daily
ghrp 2 100mg 3x daily

starting during or just before pct from a 15 week cycle.... ..... thoughts? reps for help.. thanks
 
swollen87 said:
so i literally just read this entire thread from page one...

my plan is to use these peps throughout a pct and down the road maybe 6-9 months after the cycle.... is that considered safe?

thought something along the lines of

cjc1295 no dac 100mg 3x daily
ghrp 2 100mg 3x daily

starting during or just before pct from a 15 week cycle.... ..... thoughts? reps for help.. thanks
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Looks good.

Very common protocol there.

Try it out for a few months then perhaps switch up the dosing scheme. EOD dosing, once a day boom dosing etc...
 
I've been reading about peptides and I'm really intrigued. I'm actually starting a GH (Hygetropin) cycle in January for 30 wks with Test/Deca, Novaldex and T-3.

The results from most of the posts look awesome! Nobody has mentioned having to take a Thyroid med during a peptide cycle. Since the increase in GH is endogenous, does this mean you don't have to take T-3 or T-4 with a GHRP2/CJC-1295 cycle?

Can you take peptides indefinitely or is it wise to give yourself a break?
Thanks in Advance
 
Rippedit said:
I've been reading about peptides and I'm really intrigued. I'm actually starting a GH (Hygetropin) cycle in January for 30 wks with Test/Deca, Novaldex and T-3.

The results from most of the posts look awesome! Nobody has mentioned having to take a Thyroid med during a peptide cycle. Since the increase in GH is endogenous, does this mean you don't have to take T-3 or T-4 with a GHRP2/CJC-1295 cycle?

Can you take peptides indefinitely or is it wise to give yourself a break?
Thanks in Advance
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I cant quote but i think i read that you can take them for 6 months, then 6 month break..... at most.
 
I'm just curious what peptide brands you have tried and if you've ever tried clinical quality peptides? To be able to truly compare rhgh to peptides you would first have to have high quality peptides, then dose the peptides 5 times a day to equal rhgh's effects of around the clock lipolysis. I've yet to try hgh but from what i've read and heard from friends what you say holds true about at the right dose you just burn through the fat while being much looser with your diet. For fatloss with peps ipamorelin+mod grf 1-29, the only thing is high quality peptides dosed frequently is going to cost you around the same as a moderate amount of gh, hell with the bulk deals i see in the us GH could be cheaper.


MattPorter said:
I hypothesized that GHrp's and GHRH's do in fact raise gh levels, but seem to be lipogenic rather than lipolytic. After researching with several GHRP's I truly believe that 6 is GREAT for weight gain via ghrelin production and also some water retention for joints etc... If these peptides truly behaved like rhgh than you would NOT have to fast for hours, do tons of low intensity cardio etc...to achieve fat loss, hell doing that regardless will get drastic results.

rhgh at the RIGHT dose lets users disregard perfectly meticulous nutrition to a certain extent and STILL oxidize body fat. I feel these peptides are GREAT for gaining size....just not ideal for utmost fat loss.
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Peptides vs. GH

I'd be curious to know how a peptide cycle would compare to a exogenous GH cycle as far as effectiveness.
From what I've read on these threads so far it seems to me that peptides would be more attractive given the cost & effects athletes have had with them.
Has anyone had experience taking both to compare apples to apples?

My cycle of GH starting in January will be the first time I've tried GH... I've got enough to last just over 6 months so I can get some good results. I will definitely be interested in experimenting with peptides moving forward to see what happens.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
 
jsilva0519 said:
So with the GHRP-2 you'll get a more "lean" look?
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All peps give you a lean look.... Just like hgh... But ghrp6 because of the increase in grhelin, a hunger hormone, could make you eat more which then would mess up the "lean look" because of how much your eating....
 
Supposedly ghrp 2 is a little stronger without sides.... But I personally love ghrp. I get my food in and then some. I def use it for a bulk.
 
madds87 said:
Supposedly ghrp 2 is a little stronger without sides.... But I personally love ghrp. I get my food in and then some. I def use it for a bulk.
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Well am looking to use mid January for post cycle. I keep my calories high so basically up to me a little bloat or no bloat??? Thank you EVERYONE!
 
Rippedit said:
I'd be curious to know how a peptide cycle would compare to a exogenous GH cycle as far as effectiveness.
From what I've read on these threads so far it seems to me that peptides would be more attractive given the cost & effects athletes have had with them.
Has anyone had experience taking both to compare apples to apples?

My cycle of GH starting in January will be the first time I've tried GH... I've got enough to last just over 6 months so I can get some good results. I will definitely be interested in experimenting with peptides moving forward to see what happens.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
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From what I've researched, you must take CJC-1295 w/o DAC alongside the GHRP's to get exogenous GH-like results. Taken 3 times daily @ 100mcg each supposedly gets solid gains. Good thing is that stack only costs about $100 per month to do, which for me is about $125 cheaper than GH @ a measly 4iu's per day for a month supply...

Soon I will add Ipamorelin (the 3rd gen GHRP) and CJC to my current bulk cycle of test, eq and mast. I will take it one month at a time but will only inject twice daily - once in the mid-morning and once in the mid-afternoon. These are the most common times for low GH activity and higher cortisol levels. I don't need any before bed since I already have alot of GH at night anyways.
 
madds87 said:
Supposedly ghrp 2 is a little stronger without sides.... But I personally love ghrp. I get my food in and then some. I def use it for a bulk.
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when I used it, I would become immedately hungry about 2mins after taking it. waiting taht 30mins to eat was like torture. after I fed though, the hunger issue wasnt bad at all
 
GeekPoop said:
when I used it, I would become immedately hungry about 2mins after taking it. waiting taht 30mins to eat was like torture. after I fed though, the hunger issue wasnt bad at all
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Haha yeah... Eating is retarded, how much I eat.. 30mins is a very long time if your hungry. But while im waiting I pop about ten liver tabs. Cause I shoot in the morning tight apon waking. Now I take em on a regular basis right after I shoot.
 
fueledpassion said:
From what I've researched, you must take CJC-1295 w/o DAC alongside the GHRP's to get exogenous GH-like results. Taken 3 times daily @ 100mcg each supposedly gets solid gains. Good thing is that stack only costs about $100 per month to do, which for me is about $125 cheaper than GH @ a measly 4iu's per day for a month supply...

Soon I will add Ipamorelin (the 3rd gen GHRP) and CJC to my current bulk cycle of test, eq and mast. I will take it one month at a time but will only inject twice daily - once in the mid-morning and once in the mid-afternoon. These are the most common times for low GH activity and higher cortisol levels. I don't need any before bed since I already have alot of GH at night anyways.
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Cheaper than that I think. Especially if you buy in bulk. nice cycle. Im running some with ph right now. Pumps are nice. I do have some tren for a later time. Maybe next dec. If I can finally get to 200. ;) but one side I love is the sleeping its so intense! The best sleep ever!!!
 
swollen87 said:
so i literally just read this entire thread from page one...

my plan is to use these peps throughout a pct and down the road maybe 6-9 months after the cycle.... is that considered safe?

thought something along the lines of

cjc1295 no dac 100mg 3x daily
ghrp 2 100mg 3x daily

starting during or just before pct from a 15 week cycle.... ..... thoughts? reps for help.. thanks
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Yeah, except GHRP-2 contributes to sleepiness. I've personally found that GHRP-6 does this as well. I was always really tired while taking it. However, I now have Ipamorelin and it's alot better. It doesn't make u tired but has a relatively strong pulse of GH. Best thing is about Ipa is that you can take larger doses than 100mcg at a time. The larger the dose, the larger the pulse. So 200mcg is possible to do 2-3 times per day on top of the CJC no dac. Just my thoughts...
 
fueledpassion said:
Yeah, except GHRP-2 contributes to sleepiness. I've personally found that GHRP-6 does this as well. I was always really tired while taking it. However, I now have Ipamorelin and it's alot better. It doesn't make u tired but has a relatively strong pulse of GH. Best thing is about Ipa is that you can take larger doses than 100mcg at a time. The larger the dose, the larger the pulse. So 200mcg is possible to do 2-3 times per day on top of the CJC no dac. Just my thoughts...
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Ghrp you can take higher doses. But lathargy is normally off of thefirst week. Then after that you get better sleep and no problems.
 
This was a great thread for information!!! I would like to ask so i am a BBer and am currently running an MK-2866 log but am 6'0 at 218 with ab and intercostal def. . . . mirroring at about 8%-9% and thought the GHRP-2 +CJC or Mod would be a great stack. I'm looking to compete this fall in november and would like to add 5-8lbs of lean maintainable muscle. I'm recovery from a rotator cuff injury and am wondering how many 5mg GHRP Vials and CJC would a man of my stature need. I am new to the peptide game and researching like a mother. A lot of information but there is a lot of knowledge on this thread and on these boards!!! I train 4-5 days a week since its my offseason but am looking to take some shots if needed during the summer (Shots meaning photographs not alcohol). I am 25 and have been competing for 3 years now. all 2nd place finishes so its time to try something new. Let me know your thoughts and am interested in PM's too. My apologies for possibly hi-jacking the thread.
 
always w/o dac. cjc. ipamorelin, or ghrp 2, you wiill bulk on ghrp 6,understand the stuff is not quick on gains just recovery is sweet. gh 6 & cjc no dac, + dbol or some kind of bulker, is an amazing bulker, shoot for me test and peptides mixed maid me swell, but was so buff lol a great winter gain. but peptides make me sweat like crazy. side effect if you didnt know
 
madds87 said:
always w/o dac. cjc. ipamorelin, or ghrp 2, you wiill bulk on ghrp 6,understand the stuff is not quick on gains just recovery is sweet. gh 6 & cjc no dac, + dbol or some kind of bulker, is an amazing bulker, shoot for me test and peptides mixed maid me swell, but was so buff lol a great winter gain. but peptides make me sweat like crazy. side effect if you didnt know
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Sweating is no problem!! I'm still recovering from a rotator cuff injury so a recovering agent is always appreciated! I will be tested for anabolic agents as well and peptides are not an "anabolic agent.". I'm all for the exploration of grey but out right dosing AAS and than competing in a NANBF sanction would be against my thought process at this time. If I take a step in the dark side I will switch leagues ya dig! NPC may be in my future but would like to get my IFPA pro card first ?
 
Aaelael said:
Sweating is no problem!! I'm still recovering from a rotator cuff injury so a recovering agent is always appreciated! I will be tested for anabolic agents as well and peptides are not an "anabolic agent.". I'm all for the exploration of grey but out right dosing AAS and than competing in a NANBF sanction would be against my thought process at this time. If I take a step in the dark side I will switch leagues ya dig! NPC may be in my future but would like to get my IFPA pro card first ?
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respect!
 
I've been using the cjc w GHRP for 3 weeks now...WOW! :dance:
The pumps insane, sleep awesome, ... I've put on 10 lobs is lean mass and I have been trying for 10 years with the assistance of aas. The pumps were so painful that I've had to start taking a baby aspirin. Ps am not on aas right now. Keep pumping.
 
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