FORMERON FAQ

Hey brundel, quick question for ya. I'm running formeron with my current PH cycle, and for my PCT I have torem lined up and trib. Would it be a smart move to grab another bottle of formeron to run in my PCT for AI purposes?
 
brundel said:
Glad its working well for you.
One of the best things about using Formeron instead of a research chem is you know for 100% certain it is what it says it is and that its dosed properly.
Research chems you dont know if its even the right compound, or if it totally bunk, or contaminated.
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^ totally agree!!!
 
BamBam0319 said:
Hey brundel, quick question for ya. I'm running formeron with my current PH cycle, and for my PCT I have torem lined up and trib. Would it be a smart move to grab another bottle of formeron to run in my PCT for AI purposes?
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100% yes.
Keep in mind that while a SERM like torem will raise test levels it will also allow estrogen to rise. This can blunt your test increase and if it gets high enough can cause test levels to actually drop so...post PCT test levels can crash with no concurrent use of an AI to manage estrogen.
 
brundel said:
The PH activity is milder compared to a decent PH dose, however you also get increased testosterone levels from it so this also plays a role. Even higher doses have more effect. The great thing though is the lack of side effects. PH- most cause liver stress, severe ldl increase and HDL decrease, suppression, potential cardiac sides etc Formeron- none of these. PLus no PCT needed.
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Well since ive never run anything hormonal, at 3-4 pumps daily what gains would be expected if the training and nutrition are on par!
 
brundel said:
The PH activity is milder compared to a decent PH dose, however you also get increased testosterone levels from it so this also plays a role. Even higher doses have more effect. The great thing though is the lack of side effects. PH- most cause liver stress, severe ldl increase and HDL decrease, suppression, potential cardiac sides etc Formeron- none of these. PLus no PCT needed.
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Brundel, so it's not suppressive at higher doses? Curious how this works as far as becoming anabolic... Sorry I know you've answered this before
 
Godstrength, go to the first page in this thread and see if the original post Brundel put up answers your question. There is initial discussion when this thread was started.

Let us know if it doesn't suffice.
 
kisaj said:
Godstrength, go to the first page in this thread and see if the original post Brundel put up answers your question. There is initial discussion when this thread was started. Let us know if it doesn't suffice.
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Definitely pointed me in the right direction... Taking a closer look at 4 hydroxytestosterone.... I knew I saw that info somewhere, didn't realize it was on pg 1 of 151 lol thanks

Edit

Believe I found my own answer in a research article......
"This compound is ideal because it is an active androgen, yet demonstrates an equally high level of efficacy in humans as an inhibitor of aromatase."

Just a piece of what I was looking at thanks
 
Godstrength said:
Definitely pointed me in the right direction... Taking a closer look at 4 hydroxytestosterone.... I knew I saw that info somewhere, didn't realize it was on pg 1 of 151 lol thanks Edit Believe I found my own answer in a research article...... "This compound is ideal because it is an active androgen, yet demonstrates an equally high level of efficacy in humans as an inhibitor of aromatase." Just a piece of what I was looking at thanks
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Are you going to go with 2 or 4? I'm debating it myself
 
Godstrength said:
Been running 1-2 pumps on cycle (test & winny). Coming off cycle, was wondering about bumping up to 4, whether or not this would be suppressive at all? That would be counterproductive to pct...
Maybe someone can help me here as I couldn't really find an answer as to whether or not the converted 4 hydroxytestosterone is suppressive at higher doses??
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I know this might not help much because i dont have bloods but my last PCT was 10mg osta and 3 pumps formerone (1pump morning 2 pumps pre-WO) worked great for me !
 
mw1 said:
It's an AI-- you wouldn't want to run any AI long term unless there was a specific reason
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It's not just an AI at more than 2 pumps a day

Brundel has stated it's suicidal and this can be used daily year round as plenty of people do it

I'll probably cycle it 12 weeks on 2 weeks off @ 2 pumps
 
NattyForLife said:
Well since ive never run anything hormonal, at 3-4 pumps daily what gains would be expected if the training and nutrition are on par!
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Especially for your first run you will be impressed.
I would expect
strength
fat loss
hardening and drying effects
muscle gain.

Of course gains are food and training dependent. Eat a ton and youll grow, diet and youll lose fat etc.
 
Godstrength said:
Definitely pointed me in the right direction... Taking a closer look at 4 hydroxytestosterone.... I knew I saw that info somewhere, didn't realize it was on pg 1 of 151 lol thanks

Edit

Believe I found my own answer in a research article......
"This compound is ideal because it is an active androgen, yet demonstrates an equally high level of efficacy in humans as an inhibitor of aromatase."

Just a piece of what I was looking at thanks
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This is exactly it.
You do get some anabolic potential from the Htest, however, the AI property boosts test enough to over compensate. So there may be slight suppression but youll never know as test levels will remain elevated. This is unlike any other PH.
Eventually it will become suppressive enough but....the dose would be incredibly high. Ive seen guys go to 8 pumps with no PCT just a 2 week taper.
 
Godstrength said:
Been running 1-2 pumps on cycle (test & winny). Coming off cycle, was wondering about bumping up to 4, whether or not this would be suppressive at all? That would be counterproductive to pct...
Maybe someone can help me here as I couldn't really find an answer as to whether or not the converted 4 hydroxytestosterone is suppressive at higher doses??
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I wouldnt run 4 in PCT.
2 PCT just because we dont want ANY potential suppression however slight it may be.
On cycles 4 + is fine.

2 is plenty for PCT.
 
arnoldpresses said:
How long would you recommend running formeron for by itself? Any negative effects in long term use?
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I know guys who have been on it daily for years for HRT estro management. NO negative sides.
For general purposes though cycling would be better as your body will grow accustomed to the changes associated with its use.

8-12 week cycles are fine.
Long term is fine for HRT guys.
 
brundel said:
Especially for your first run you will be impressed. I would expect strength fat loss hardening and drying effects muscle gain. Of course gains are food and training dependent. Eat a ton and youll grow, diet and youll lose fat etc.
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What would be a good 8 wk run pumps daily wise?
 
I've been on Formeron for about 3 or 4 months straight now. Lost count. Works great. But going to take a month off now.
 
I've been running formeron for 16 days now, 2 days longer than I've run my PH cycle so far. I'm experiencing slightly puffy/sensitive nipples. Any insight brundel?
 
brundel said:
The PH activity is milder compared to a decent PH dose, however you also get increased testosterone levels from it so this also plays a role.
Even higher doses have more effect.
The great thing though is the lack of side effects.

PH- most cause liver stress, severe ldl increase and HDL decrease, suppression, potential cardiac sides etc
Formeron- none of these. PLus no PCT needed.
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oh yes cardiac sides are often overlooked when it comes to ph cycling.almost everything besides test and trest,especially orals will f... your body up big time.on another board i wrote about my experience with hdrol and how it can dramatically raise blood pressure.my normal readings are 120/70 without any meds.on my third day of hdrol 50mg per day bp peaked at 177/98 though i almost simulatenously started taking a beta blocker AND an ace inhibitor i had lying around.two days ago i quit hdrol and yesterday i took a last small dose of metoprolol.my last bp reading today was 108/65.

i decided to switch to follidrone as a healthier alternative.will be on the third day today and go working out in some minutes.

after follidrone i would like to test a viron/form stack.
 
Hey brundel, using my 3rd bottle of formeron now and noticed a big difference with this bottle, usually it's very gel like and leave a bit of glitter behind but with this bottle it's very runny, as soon as I pump it on my forearm it runs down straight away, it also looks very watery and the glitter bits are very grainy with this one, eg if I run it on it feels like a body scrub with sand in it , also when it dries the left over formestane look like crystals, not small glittery like before....is there any reason behind this? Maybe wrong storage from supplier? I bought it from my usual source .

Any way to get it a bit more thick again ? Warm water? Cold water?
 
heavyweight83 said:
Hey brundel, using my 3rd bottle of formeron now and noticed a big difference with this bottle, usually it's very gel like and leave a bit of glitter behind but with this bottle it's very runny, as soon as I pump it on my forearm it runs down straight away, it also looks very watery and the glitter bits are very grainy with this one, eg if I run it on it feels like a body scrub with sand in it , also when it dries the left over formestane look like crystals, not small glittery like before....is there any reason behind this? Maybe wrong storage from supplier? I bought it from my usual source . Any way to get it a bit more thick again ? Warm water? Cold water?
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I noticed this too with my last bottle.... Usually a lot thicker??
 
Been on Formeron for 2 weeks now at 2 pumps due to sensitivity in my nipples. I'm on my last 2 weeks of my cycle. Nips still sensitive. Should I bump up to 3 pumps? And what about in PCT? Should I stay at 3 or back down to 2 pumps.
 
808bigdog said:
Been on Formeron for 2 weeks now at 2 pumps due to sensitivity in my nipples. I'm on my last 2 weeks of my cycle. Nips still sensitive. Should I bump up to 3 pumps? And what about in PCT? Should I stay at 3 or back down to 2 pumps.
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Sensitivity could be simply hormonal, however I would up the dosage myself if it's not cutting it.

I like formeron but it adds up cost wise, may be wiser to pick up an RC AI like aromasin for the remainder an in pct.
 
heavyweight83 said:
Hey brundel, using my 3rd bottle of formeron now and noticed a big difference with this bottle, usually it's very gel like and leave a bit of glitter behind but with this bottle it's very runny, as soon as I pump it on my forearm it runs down straight away, it also looks very watery and the glitter bits are very grainy with this one, eg if I run it on it feels like a body scrub with sand in it , also when it dries the left over formestane look like crystals, not small glittery like before....is there any reason behind this? Maybe wrong storage from supplier? I bought it from my usual source .

Any way to get it a bit more thick again ? Warm water? Cold water?
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This is exactly how mine is. This is the first bottle I have started so didn't know what it was suposed to be like but now I see its not supposed to be gritty and watery. So do I have a bad Bach?
 
BamBam0319 said:
I've been running formeron for 16 days now, 2 days longer than I've run my PH cycle so far. I'm experiencing slightly puffy/sensitive nipples. Any insight brundel?
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If you were running halodrol (worst drug ever imo) it may be gyno developing. Bump up the form dose till it slows. Worst cases of gyno ive ever seen...halodrol post cycle.
 
heavyweight83 said:
Hey brundel, using my 3rd bottle of formeron now and noticed a big difference with this bottle, usually it's very gel like and leave a bit of glitter behind but with this bottle it's very runny, as soon as I pump it on my forearm it runs down straight away, it also looks very watery and the glitter bits are very grainy with this one, eg if I run it on it feels like a body scrub with sand in it , also when it dries the left over formestane look like crystals, not small glittery like before....is there any reason behind this? Maybe wrong storage from supplier? I bought it from my usual source .

Any way to get it a bit more thick again ? Warm water? Cold water?
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Nothing has changed. Perhaps its hotter where u are currently? The crystal size varies. Sometimes larger ones can develop while it sits.
Is it the new label or old. Same product just trying to judge age. Either way. 100% certain its fine.
 
808bigdog said:
Been on Formeron for 2 weeks now at 2 pumps due to sensitivity in my nipples. I'm on my last 2 weeks of my cycle. Nips still sensitive. Should I bump up to 3 pumps? And what about in PCT? Should I stay at 3 or back down to 2 pumps.
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Pretty sure your cycle was 3 aromatizing orals. Its an estrogen nightmare. Id use a high dose and back off in pct. If it doesnt do the trick you may need a low dose of letro. Keep in mind ais inhibit only a %. Not all. So if estro is extremely high it can still cause symptoms. Say its 200 and you inhibit 50%.
Still at 100 which will give most guys gyno.
Letro causes the highest % of suppression.
 
Redeemed said:
This is exactly how mine is. This is the first bottle I have started so didn't know what it was suposed to be like but now I see its not supposed to be gritty and watery. So do I have a bad Bach?
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There is no nad batch lol. Could just be slightly thinner maybe less alcohol burned off during manufacturing. Unlikely though. Either way the effect will be the same.
 
1kerry said:
you say is the worst drug because of gyno??
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Worst drug when you compare potential risk vs reward. Weak anabolic. Tons of sides.
Unfortunately alot of the steroids sold by supp companies are like this. Most were rejected for use as drugs because they were too toxic or had alot of negatives. Superdrol for example. Highly toxic.
Halo i havnt researched its origin but considering its relatively weak and has cholesterol, liver, gyno, and potential cardiac sides its a poor choice.
Compare it to dianabol. Same side potential.
Triple or more potency.
 
How exactly do I apply it if I'm using it as an AI? Am I supposed to put it on my arms or my hands? And do I apply it over my entire chest. bottom half of chest, or just around my nipples? Thanks
 
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