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FORMERON 2024

johnny412 said:
my thought process on the hand thing tho is if it doesnt absorb into your hand it shouldnt matter if you use gloves or not because it wont absorb into the glove either. so if there is waste it would be exactly the same either way? or am i not understanding something?
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This is why we recommend wrists ideally. The skin on the inside of the wrist is thin enough.
 
thescience said:
he does it as a precaution in case of accidentally failing to wash everything off; doesnt want polysorbate or whatever in his eyes. pretty impressive if there is significant amounts of quercetin in this, as i could never get that through my skin
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There is no quercetin.
 
oh i was just referencing the atripex list:

Caffeoyl hexose-deoxyhexoside
Chlorogenic acid derivative
Isoorientin
Apigenin dihexoside
Liquiritin Ferulic acid
Kaempferol deoxyhexoside
Dihydroxy benzoic acid Caffeic acid
Caffeoyl hexose-deoxyhexoside isomer
Quercetin pentosyl hexoside
Rosmarinic acid hexoside
Retusin methyl ether
Tetrahydroxyflavan
Kaempferol
Isorhamnetin
Myricetin
Quercetin
Dihydroxybenzoyl hexose
Coumaroyl hydroxy-palmitic acid
Quercetin-galloyl-pentoside
Coumaroyl-hexose
Kaempferol–dideoxyhexoside
(Kaempferitrin)
Dicaffeoyl-spermidine
Syringetin
rutinoside
Acetylated kaempferol deoxyhexosyl hexoside
Kaempferol deoxyhexosyl hexoside
Isorhamnetin hexoside
Quercetin deoxyhexoside
Apigenin-C-hexoside
Daucosterol
(Sitogluside)
Isorhamnetin deoxhexosyl hexoside
Kaempferol glucuronide
Sinapic acid hexoside
Tamerexetin deoxyhexosyl hexoside
Apigenin-C-hexoside
Caffeoyl-coumaroyl spermidine
β-Sitosterol
Caffeoyl pinoresinol
Tetrahydroxyflavan
Portulasoid
butoxyseptanoside Isorhamnetin
Myricetin
Tetrahydroxyflavan
Ursolic acid
β/α-amyrin
20-hydroxyecdysone
Lupeol
Stigmasterol
Oleonolic acid
Septanoecdysone
 
brundel said:
The thing with not using hands is just to avoid waste as it wont absorb through hands. Gloves are fine or wrists.
Even the guys I know who are running cycles seem to like the new Formeron so well see what people think overall. Obviously its not an illegal steroid but its still got some punch and it hits different receptors so you get benefits you wouldnt from traditional AAS.
Presently we are just making sure we have enough stock of everything else for a big sale. The formeron is mostly ready.
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So thinking mid-late next week for the launch, maybe?
 
thescience said:
oh i was just referencing the atripex list:

Caffeoyl hexose-deoxyhexoside
Chlorogenic acid derivative
Isoorientin
Apigenin dihexoside
Liquiritin Ferulic acid
Kaempferol deoxyhexoside
Dihydroxy benzoic acid Caffeic acid
Caffeoyl hexose-deoxyhexoside isomer
Quercetin pentosyl hexoside
Rosmarinic acid hexoside
Retusin methyl ether
Tetrahydroxyflavan
Kaempferol
Isorhamnetin
Myricetin
Quercetin
Dihydroxybenzoyl hexose
Coumaroyl hydroxy-palmitic acid
Quercetin-galloyl-pentoside
Coumaroyl-hexose
Kaempferol–dideoxyhexoside
(Kaempferitrin)
Dicaffeoyl-spermidine
Syringetin
rutinoside
Acetylated kaempferol deoxyhexosyl hexoside
Kaempferol deoxyhexosyl hexoside
Isorhamnetin hexoside
Quercetin deoxyhexoside
Apigenin-C-hexoside
Daucosterol
(Sitogluside)
Isorhamnetin deoxhexosyl hexoside
Kaempferol glucuronide
Sinapic acid hexoside
Tamerexetin deoxyhexosyl hexoside
Apigenin-C-hexoside
Caffeoyl-coumaroyl spermidine
β-Sitosterol
Caffeoyl pinoresinol
Tetrahydroxyflavan
Portulasoid
butoxyseptanoside Isorhamnetin
Myricetin
Tetrahydroxyflavan
Ursolic acid
β/α-amyrin
20-hydroxyecdysone
Lupeol
Stigmasterol
Oleonolic acid
Septanoecdysone
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Yah Atriplex has Quercetin in it but not all the compounds present in the plant will be present in the product because of the extraction processes. And, Or, there will be alot of some and very little of others. We targeted the stuff thats primarily believed to be anabolic.
 
We had some issued with production of other products. Dont want to have a sale and not have any products to sell. Its better to wait than to have shortages of things.
Formeron is ready we just cant launch yet.
LOoking at the calendar and expectations for delivery of products....Monday seems reasonable.
 
brundel said:
We had some issued with production of other products. Dont want to have a sale and not have any products to sell. Its better to wait than to have shortages of things.
Formeron is ready we just cant launch yet.
LOoking at the calendar and expectations for delivery of products....Monday seems reasonable.
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How's a Monday launch looking?
 
Nprice151 said:
So what would this stack well with?

If I’m taking incinderine already would adding this have positive effects?
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Absolutely. I dont know of anything it wont stack well with except maybe Letrone as this would crush your estrogen levels to nothing. This product is like a mini cycle. Its got anabolic potential like nothing Ive seen in recent times. Solid aromatase activity which we may dial up or down depending on how people like it. But, in testing its been just right. Not crushing estrogen but suppressing it enough to see significant drying even with the DHEA and TRT.
Plus I dont think people realize but Ecdysteroids can be really powerful, however, there are some issues we see with most products. First its important to keep in mind that 20HE (20hydroxyecdysterone) and most ecdysteroids have an oral Bioavailability of around 1%. Transdermally the Bioavailability is much better and using our carrier and penetration enhancement its at least 1000% better.
In addition we have multiple types of ecdysteroids and some unknowns with the Atriplex. The study I posted in the writeup indicated that the atriplex extract showed more anabolism that testosterone and Dianabol. Now.....I do think its important to keep in mind its one study that hasnt been replicated but its safe at least to assume there is some significant anabolic action and testing has shown this to be true with the effects being comparable to a mild AAS or SARM. Fat loss potential is solid as we have seen all of the testers lose bodyfat and gain muscle.
 
brundel said:
Absolutely. I dont know of anything it wont stack well with except maybe Letrone as this would crush your estrogen levels to nothing. This product is like a mini cycle. Its got anabolic potential like nothing Ive seen in recent times. Solid aromatase activity which we may dial up or down depending on how people like it. But, in testing its been just right. Not crushing estrogen but suppressing it enough to see significant drying even with the DHEA and TRT.
Plus I dont think people realize but Ecdysteroids can be really powerful, however, there are some issues we see with most products. First its important to keep in mind that 20HE (20hydroxyecdysterone) and most ecdysteroids have an oral Bioavailability of around 1%. Transdermally the Bioavailability is much better and using our carrier and penetration enhancement its at least 1000% better.
In addition we have multiple types of ecdysteroids and some unknowns with the Atriplex. The study I posted in the writeup indicated that the atriplex extract showed more anabolism that testosterone and Dianabol. Now.....I do think its important to keep in mind its one study that hasnt been replicated but its safe at least to assume there is some significant anabolic action and testing has shown this to be true with the effects being comparable to a mild AAS or SARM. Fat loss potential is solid as we have seen all of the testers lose bodyfat and gain muscle.
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what would you pair it with strictly for fatloss?
 
I'm Interested.

Anyone here use this previous that can compare it to something else?

I know the theory Inside and out but want to hear first hand experiences if anyone has any.

The company is solid...I use and sell Black Lion products on my store.
 
WesleyInman said:
I'm Interested.

Anyone here use this previous that can compare it to something else?

I know the theory Inside and out but want to hear first hand experiences if anyone has any.

The company is solid...I use and sell Black Lion products on my store.
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There is only 1 person here who has used it as it hasnt been launched yet.
But from testers reports I can state that its similar to a dry AAS in effect.
There is also DHEA so youll see some increased testosterone without an increase in estrogen. This is on top of the primary MOA which is the multiple types of anabolics including 20HE and other ecdysterones.
 
Literally cant wait for this. Formeron was one of my all time favorite supps....if this is evenly remotely close, this will be a big $$$$
 
brundel said:
Absolutely. I dont know of anything it wont stack well with except maybe Letrone as this would crush your estrogen levels to nothing. This product is like a mini cycle. Its got anabolic potential like nothing Ive seen in recent times. Solid aromatase activity which we may dial up or down depending on how people like it. But, in testing its been just right. Not crushing estrogen but suppressing it enough to see significant drying even with the DHEA and TRT.
Plus I dont think people realize but Ecdysteroids can be really powerful, however, there are some issues we see with most products. First its important to keep in mind that 20HE (20hydroxyecdysterone) and most ecdysteroids have an oral Bioavailability of around 1%. Transdermally the Bioavailability is much better and using our carrier and penetration enhancement its at least 1000% better.
In addition we have multiple types of ecdysteroids and some unknowns with the Atriplex. The study I posted in the writeup indicated that the atriplex extract showed more anabolism that testosterone and Dianabol. Now.....I do think its important to keep in mind its one study that hasnt been replicated but its safe at least to assume there is some significant anabolic action and testing has shown this to be true with the effects being comparable to a mild AAS or SARM. Fat loss potential is solid as we have seen all of the testers lose bodyfat and gain muscle.
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Just wondered what sort of bodyweight changes are being seen on those testing Formeron? For those using it on a bulk how many llbs of muscle could be achieved over say 8 to 12 weeks?
 
Atlas1970 said:
Just wondered what sort of bodyweight changes are being seen on those testing Formeron? For those using it on a bulk how many llbs of muscle could be achieved over say 8 to 12 weeks?
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Its been variable. Have seen 2-3lbs gained but with significant fat percentage loss so the actual amount gained isnt 2-3lbs. One tester is up 14lbs its been 10 weeks. Not much fat gain, maybe a little but really solid.
Its going to depend alot on what you do.
Are you in calorie surplus? Then youll gain more. IN Maintenance youll gain less. Deficit even less. But if you are at maintenance or deficit your goal isnt to build muscle.
I think 10 +lbs is super reasonable.
 
brundel said:
Its been variable. Have seen 2-3lbs gained but with significant fat percentage loss so the actual amount gained isnt 2-3lbs. One tester is up 14lbs its been 10 weeks. Not much fat gain, maybe a little but really solid.
Its going to depend alot on what you do.
Are you in calorie surplus? Then youll gain more. IN Maintenance youll gain less. Deficit even less. But if you are at maintenance or deficit your goal isnt to build muscle.
I think 10 +lbs is super reasonable.
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When do you think you'll have a clearer picture over whether PCT is required for the new Formeron?
 
max silver said:
When do you think you'll have a clearer picture over whether PCT is required for the new Formeron?
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Probably a few months after people run it and then see how they feel, hopefully get some bloodwork to see where they are at afterwards.
 
Ziyo said:
So is there Areiplex D extract aswell as isolated 20-hydroxyecdysone in it?
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Yes, there is pure 20hd as well as atriplex.

Also I can say with some confidence that we will be launching this week along with a big sale.
 
Would this be a good replacement for a natural test booster? Or would it better to take with it because of the possibility of pct? Just one more question. Out of all your products which one would you recommend taking alongside Incinderine for maximum fat loss? I'm trying to choose one other. Cardio 5 days a week and lifting 3.
 
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raji1980 said:
Would this be a good replacement for a natural test booster? Or would it better to take with it because of the possibility of pct? Just one more question. Out of all your products which one would you recommend taking alongside Incinderine for maximum fat loss? I'm trying to choose one other. Cardio 5 days a week and lifting 3.
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Letrone 2 or the Full Steam a Shred Stack​

 
If I see right from instagram video the 6 ingredients are the following:
Atractylodes,Atriplex,GG,DHEA,Beta Ecdysterone,7 8 benzoflavone...Looking forward to
 
ride1979 said:
If I see right from instagram video the 6 ingredients are the following:
Atractylodes,Atriplex,GG,DHEA,Beta Ecdysterone,7 8 benzoflavone...Looking forward to
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If this list is accurate, excepting the benzo, im breathing a sigh of relief not seeing any estrogen agonism going on in there
 
VegMed said:
How can I get on the launch email list?
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thescience said:
Input email into subscribe box on bottom of webpage. Ive tried it with multiple emails over the years but i never get anything in my folder or spam so idk maybe there’s a different way
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Thats strange. DM me your email and I can make sure its on the list. Id also like to know why its not getting through
 
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