FORMERON 2024

brundel said:
I think the MOA is different from what most would expect but that the data so far shows this to be one of if not the most exciting new compound for bodybuilders and physique competitors in a long time. No it definitely would not be....natty. Its an exogenous compound that majorly alters the physique and performance. Once we get closer Ill say more. BUt there are whispers about it in the industry.
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just wondering if the "exogenous compound" reference here was a statement that exogenous testosterone is, in effect, being added to the body
 
svida said:
UPDATE: I finished my Formeron trial after 9 weeks and overall have been very pleased with the results! I'm estimating ~3lbs of solid mass and haven't noticed any shutdown nor side effects whatsover. I haven't been running a PCT after 10 days off so far and I feel great! I've had several compliments in the gym the past few weeks which is always a bonus. My favorite part of this standalone cycle is definitely the muscle fullness, and the unexpected strength gains really makes this product shine! I'm absolutely certain I've gained significant size, dry with no water weight bloat. My strategy was applying twice per day using nitrile gloves on the targeted areas without absorbing in my hands. I'd recommend 3-4 pumps first thing in the morning and the remaining 3 pumps post workout when the application area has been cleared again. I've had considerable success applying immediately after a steam/sauna plus exfoliating every few days. Unfortunately, I didn't have the opportunity to capture bloodwork, though I'm planning to run this again mid-December for a few weeks prior and during a 10-week LGD cycle. Let me know how ya'll like this!
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its been a while since you discontinued without pct. have you experienced any unpleasantries?
 
Smont said:
Anyone gonna drop a log? I'm interested
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SVIDA tested the product and left a lengthy review several pages back. Im sure we will get lots of logs once people start to try this stuff and see how good it is.
You guys are in for something special. Just wait.....This stuff is beastly.
 
schizm said:
I get the 2x/day dosing to keep blood levels more elevated over the course of the day but wondering if 1x/day (all 6 pumps) would yield similar results/effects
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Its 7-8ml dose so its alot to try to apply at once. We havnt had any reports of issues from the carrier etc but still trying to apply 8ml a day all at once is tough. Im also a fan of splitting doses with things we dont fully know the pharmakonetics of like ecdysteroids. I have no idea what their half life is.
 
div1872 said:
I’m still using REBIRTH and INCINDERINE should I wait until finished to run Formeron?
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I would not mix rebirth with Formeron because Rebirth is a SERM that works specifically by blocking estrogen receptors.
 
inprnt said:
Can you use Formeron year-round or do you recommend cycling?
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I dont know if this will wind up being mildly suppressive or what. If you are on TRT then no worries. If not then maybe cycle it until we see some labs.
 
Hyde said:
It’s going to come down to bloodwork. Are you getting suppressed and do you see any negative trending over prolonged periods? Nobody has that info yet because this is a new formula.

Most of the data I’ve seen on a lot of plant extracts and ecdysteroids tend to benign or even potentially helpful for health. But if estrogen is too low for longer periods you could see some cholesterol impact, or too high you might see some suppression of natural test. Depends on how strong the AI effect is vs how you metabolize the DHEA in this.

TLDR: we don’t know yet but it’s likely safe for extended use.
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I agree, I think safety wise its fine but suppression wise I dont know.
 
thescience said:
its been a while since you discontinued without pct. have you experienced any unpleasantries?
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I know Im not him but I speak to him often and can tell you he had no signs of suppression or any negative side effects. Hes about to start testing the next product that will follow. We will either be launching 1 with multiple ingredients or 2 separate products depending on how testing goes.
1 is a new ecdysteroid. Never used in any product or supplement. Its EXTREMELY expensive. Itll likely cost 2-3x the price of Formeron to make initially but hopefully once we start making larger batches regularly the price will drop. Like Epicatechin which was 2500$/kg for the first batch of Follidrone but now regularly goes for 350$/kg because the whole world sells it.
At any rate....new ECDYSTEROID.
And------Something really special just landed on my doorstep. Anyone know of something really awesome that everyone seems to be talking about in whispers? Burns fat, Increases endurance and strength, has dozens of interesting effects in the body and so far Ive not heard of an y negative side effects......
Guesses?
 
brundel said:
I know Im not him but I speak to him often and can tell you he had no signs of suppression or any negative side effects. Hes about to start testing the next product that will follow. We will either be launching 1 with multiple ingredients or 2 separate products depending on how testing goes.
1 is a new ecdysteroid. Never used in any product or supplement. Its EXTREMELY expensive. Itll likely cost 2-3x the price of Formeron to make initially but hopefully once we start making larger batches regularly the price will drop. Like Epicatechin which was 2500$/kg for the first batch of Follidrone but now regularly goes for 350$/kg because the whole world sells it.
At any rate....new ECDYSTEROID.
And------Something really special just landed on my doorstep. Anyone know of something really awesome that everyone seems to be talking about in whispers? Burns fat, Increases endurance and strength, has dozens of interesting effects in the body and so far Ive not heard of an y negative side effects......
Guesses?
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Dileucine?
 
brundel said:
. Anyone know of something really awesome that everyone seems to be talking about in whispers? Burns fat, Increases endurance and strength, has dozens of interesting effects in the body and so far Ive not heard of an y negative side effects......
Guesses?
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stronger and more endurance, yet leaner; i got nothin
 
is it possible we're talking about endogenouse testosterone increases here? the guy who went from 100 testosterone to like 600, well that could easily be the result of serm activity prompting the body to make more test. Ive heard about increases like that with people who start out at such dire test levels
 
some people really respond to dhea for test too, which could maybe explain that guy's test result; its tricky because all of the dhea reviews ive read are for oral products, which i think is problematic. out of hundreds of reviews, ive probably read about one guy who talked about improvements in male characteristics and felt like he was on roids, and then he mentioned a doc put him on trt after he reported his dhea benefit. most reviewers talk about an uptick in energy, which i what i notice from dhea. a pronounced one actually, like a stimulant that lasts all day and i dont get desensitized to it. it's something im messing around with right now actually; i take a massive amount of nad transdermally, and the effect becomes very profound only when i add a small amount of transdermal dhea. def have to take letrone with it though
 
brundel said:
I know Im not him but I speak to him often and can tell you he had no signs of suppression or any negative side effects. Hes about to start testing the next product that will follow. We will either be launching 1 with multiple ingredients or 2 separate products depending on how testing goes.
1 is a new ecdysteroid. Never used in any product or supplement. Its EXTREMELY expensive. Itll likely cost 2-3x the price of Formeron to make initially but hopefully once we start making larger batches regularly the price will drop. Like Epicatechin which was 2500$/kg for the first batch of Follidrone but now regularly goes for 350$/kg because the whole world sells it.
At any rate....new ECDYSTEROID.
And------Something really special just landed on my doorstep. Anyone know of something really awesome that everyone seems to be talking about in whispers? Burns fat, Increases endurance and strength, has dozens of interesting effects in the body and so far Ive not heard of an y negative side effects......
Guesses?
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Urolithin A?
 
brundel said:
I would not mix rebirth with Formeron because Rebirth is a SERM that works specifically by blocking estrogen receptors.
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I tend to be the type that suffers from gyno flareups/nipple pain when I even read the label for most herbal anabolics (I'm obviously joking but even something as seemingly benign as cissus tends to cause issues for me). I tend to take a single cap of letrone year round to keep this in check and occasionally bump up to 2 per day when issues arise. Would it be prudent for me to continue with the single capsule of letrone daily while using Formeron?
 
max silver said:
I tend to be the type that suffers from gyno flareups/nipple pain when I even read the label for most herbal anabolics (I'm obviously joking but even something as seemingly benign as cissus tends to cause issues for me). I tend to take a single cap of letrone year round to keep this in check and occasionally bump up to 2 per day when issues arise. Would it be prudent for me to continue with the single capsule of letrone daily while using Formeron?
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is this ongoing condition the result of having estrogen levels out of control high for a period of time? could it have been prevented? sorry to answer a question with a question. also, i wonder why it's permanent
 
thescience said:
is this ongoing condition the result of having estrogen levels out of control high for a period of time? could it have been prevented? sorry to answer a question with a question. also, i wonder why it's permanent
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I have a touch of gyno behind my left nipple. I had it surgically removed several years ago but there was a tiny bit of the gland left behind. I find that it's very easily irritated and the only way I can use most herbal products without irritating the **** out of it is with regular AI usage.
 
thescience said:
some people really respond to dhea for test too, which could maybe explain that guy's test result; its tricky because all of the dhea reviews ive read are for oral products, which i think is problematic. out of hundreds of reviews, ive probably read about one guy who talked about improvements in male characteristics and felt like he was on roids, and then he mentioned a doc put him on trt after he reported his dhea benefit. most reviewers talk about an uptick in energy, which i what i notice from dhea. a pronounced one actually, like a stimulant that lasts all day and i dont get desensitized to it. it's something im messing around with right now actually; i take a massive amount of nad transdermally, and the effect becomes very profound only when i add a small amount of transdermal dhea. def have to take letrone with it though
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Yah DHEA is really good actually but its gotta be topical in my opinion. We have to remember that the skin and stomach/GI tract as well as the liver can play a huge in how things like DHEA work for someone. Just like taking test topically or bucally or orally works slightly differently with regards to metabolites.
 
max silver said:
I tend to be the type that suffers from gyno flareups/nipple pain when I even read the label for most herbal anabolics (I'm obviously joking but even something as seemingly benign as cissus tends to cause issues for me). I tend to take a single cap of letrone year round to keep this in check and occasionally bump up to 2 per day when issues arise. Would it be prudent for me to continue with the single capsule of letrone daily while using Formeron?
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I dont think youll need it because Formeron is an AI. How strong, I dont know yet. But if it winds up being too much or not enough I can shift the formula to increase the AI dosage. I highly doubt youll need it though.
 
Ziyo said:
Perhaps it could be wise to use Rebirth after due to ‘potential’ suppression?
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I think well have to see. As of right now I dont see any reason to use a PCT, but....its 50/50. Im leaning toward not needing it. And we might even see it work for PCT like Formeron 1.
 
Matrixxx1984 said:
Is it possible to order your products to Ukraine?
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Powermyself has an order of Formeron that should ship to them shortly, so if you cant order from us you will be able to order from the UK. Or, in some cases we can ship directly. If you havhe issues, DM me in about a week when things cool down from the sale and I can try to arrange a shipment to you
 
Are most people starting out with 2x bottles or 3x bottles? Is there a recommendation for length?

Also thought about adding Rebirth at the end - but seems like it may be overkill/not needed?
 
HeizzMP said:
Are most people starting out with 2x bottles or 3x bottles? Is there a recommendation for length?

Also thought about adding Rebirth at the end - but seems like it may be overkill/not needed?
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i purchased 4, the first time i planned on an 8 week run with thoughts of another 8 week in the future but the first bottle will tell us what we need to know if we should keep going longer or shorter
 
brundel said:
I think well have to see. As of right now I dont see any reason to use a PCT, but....its 50/50. Im leaning toward not needing it. And we might even see it work for PCT like Formeron 1.
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why is Formestane illegal without a script? the side effects im seeing aint nothin
 
thescience said:
why is Formestane illegal without a script? the side effects im seeing aint nothin
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Because Joe Biden made anabolic steroids illegal in this country many years ago, and that carried on to all otc anabolic hormones that would come out over time in later bills.
 
Hyde said:
Because Joe Biden made anabolic steroids illegal in this country many years ago, and that carried on to all otc anabolic hormones that would come out over time in later bills.
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im seeing it described as an aromatase inhibitor, which then results test increases. much of what ive read has it used for women, so im guessing a drastically lesser dose. maybe thats why im not coming across any bad sides? Ive known guys who need government to interfere with how theyre cycling on and off of hormones, but this sounds like something you can just ween off of without growing breasts. oh wait, maybe it was raising test so high that people stopped producing their own, got off and had a problem.
 
The Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2014 was introduced into the United States House of Representatives on May 29, 2014 by Rep. Joseph R. Pitts (R, PA-16).<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desig...ntrol_Act_of_2014#cite_note-4771allactions-11"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a> The bill was referred to the United States House Committee on Energy and Commerce, the United States House Committee on the Judiciary, the United States House Energy Subcommittee on Health, and the United States House Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security and Investigations.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desig...ntrol_Act_of_2014#cite_note-4771allactions-11"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a> On September 15, 2014, the House voted to pass the bill in a voice vote.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desig...Control_Act_of_2014#cite_note-HillCrackDown-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> The President signed the bill into law on December 18, 2014.


Joseph R.Pitts … hardcore democrat…
 
Well i think we can all agree folks should have the right to mess themselves up or get swole however they see fit. Worst case scenario could be to mandate a course about pct etc for licensed users, not make anything illegal. The upside of all this is that companies like BLR are finding new and innovative ways to develop safer natural alternatives that are increasingly impressive.
 
thescience said:
Well i think we can all agree folks should have the right to mess themselves up or get swole however they see fit. Worst case scenario could be to mandate a course about pct etc for licensed users, not make anything illegal. The upside of all this is that companies like BLR are finding new and innovative ways to develop safer natural alternatives that are increasingly impressive.
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It's all about a narrative of there somehow being "fairness" in sport.. as if roids can enhance hand eye coordination to hit a baseball
 
brundel said:
I dont think youll need it because Formeron is an AI. How strong, I dont know yet. But if it winds up being too much or not enough I can shift the formula to increase the AI dosage. I highly doubt youll need it though.
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Thank you, I'll keep Letrone on hand in case issues arise. I definitely seem to be more sensitive than most to virtually every herbal anabolic (and even herbals that aren't necessarily anabolic) so there's certainly no sense in adjusting a formula based on my feedback.
 
malin said:
The Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2014 was introduced into the United States House of Representatives on May 29, 2014 by Rep. Joseph R. Pitts (R, PA-16).<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desig...ntrol_Act_of_2014#cite_note-4771allactions-11"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a> The bill was referred to the United States House Committee on Energy and Commerce, the United States House Committee on the Judiciary, the United States House Energy Subcommittee on Health, and the United States House Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security and Investigations.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desig...ntrol_Act_of_2014#cite_note-4771allactions-11"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a> On September 15, 2014, the House voted to pass the bill in a voice vote.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desig...Control_Act_of_2014#cite_note-HillCrackDown-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> The President signed the bill into law on December 18, 2014.


Joseph R.Pitts … hardcore democrat…
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malin said:
The Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2014 was introduced into the United States House of Representatives on May 29, 2014 by Rep. Joseph R. Pitts (R, PA-16).<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desig...ntrol_Act_of_2014#cite_note-4771allactions-11"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a> The bill was referred to the United States House Committee on Energy and Commerce, the United States House Committee on the Judiciary, the United States House Energy Subcommittee on Health, and the United States House Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security and Investigations.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desig...ntrol_Act_of_2014#cite_note-4771allactions-11"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a> On September 15, 2014, the House voted to pass the bill in a voice vote.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desig...Control_Act_of_2014#cite_note-HillCrackDown-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> The President signed the bill into law on December 18, 2014.


Joseph R.Pitts … hardcore democrat…
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2004....joe biden.....10 years before.....well 10 years before 2014 lol
 
thescience said:
why is Formestane illegal without a script? the side effects im seeing aint nothin
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At the time the supp industry was rampant with companies selling anabolic steroids, prohormones and other drugs. The fda would ban one ph or ds and another would pop up and take its place. The only way they saw to solve this was to make all of them they knew of illegal.
Formestane is an ai yes but also a prohormone to 4 hydroxytestosterone.
 
brundel said:
At the time the supp industry was rampant with companies selling anabolic steroids, prohormones and other drugs. The fda would ban one ph or ds and another would pop up and take its place. The only way they saw to solve this was to make all of them they knew of illegal.
Formestane is an ai yes but also a prohormone to 4 hydroxytestosterone.
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Honestly they should have just made it like vapes where companies have to verify id before purchase and has to be signed for by an adult. Easy fix.
 
WickedWarlock said:
Honestly they should have just made it like vapes where companies have to verify id before purchase and has to be signed for by an adult. Easy fix.
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Yes but technically none of those things were dietary supplements or were ever legal to sell as such. Just like sarms. Not legal to sell as a supp, never have been.
But I think many brands are shortsighted. For example cosmetics have different standards regarding what can be in them. It doesn't at all have to be natural or part of a diet etc.
Which gives some flexibility. We have some other topical coming that are amazing.
 
By the way we have been having a contest at the blr warehouse to see who grows the fastest on formeron only.
One of our guys is up 17lbs in 3 weeks.
That's not a typo.and
And....he's 46 and we'll above his genetic limit at 235 starting.
This stuff is turning out to be much more powerful than I had imagined.
You guys are not gonna believe it.
 
brundel said:
By the way we have been having a contest at the blr warehouse to see who grows the fastest on formeron only.
One of our guys is up 17lbs in 3 weeks.
That's not a typo.and
And....he's 46 and we'll above his genetic limit at 235 starting.
This stuff is turning out to be much more powerful than I had imagined.
You guys are not gonna believe it.
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When should we expect it to ship?
 
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