Follidrone OR X gels for a natty run
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aaronuconn
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Can't say I've had GI distress from ArA either, but it doesn't mean you aren't somehow.
made2last
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I believe Follidrone needs to be run for 8 weeks to see these results, like you said week 4 I seen some results but nothing near what's been reported, also I'm a a bigger guy at 260 maybe needed a higher dose.
GQNemesis
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There's numerous human studies in weightlifters on arachidonic acid.
The same doesn't exist for (-)-epicatechin.
Choice is obvious in my mind
You mean to tell us that we are humans ?
De__eB
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abformulations
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It's funny I thought the samething. No one ever said not too. Which is weird. But I ended up running both together.
Joshlm69
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Would you advise it? Im finishing my first 4 weeks of folli today. going to deload week next week. thinking about Folli/ARA/ABE for the next 8 weeks IF its beneficial to run ArA/folli at the same time
kissdadookie
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(-)epi I think is systematically anti-inflammatory and I don't recall it being specifically/especially targeted at inhibiting COX-2, so it should be ok to use with ArA.
abformulations
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This is what I was thinking. So far it seems ok. No interference or dimishing effects from neither.
ma70
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Yes. I think this has been posted by cooper already, so ArA and Epicatechin should be okay to stack.
abformulations
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From what I've gathered and from current experience it's ok to stack.
But after this run I won't ever run them together. Both are my fav now and I rather run them separately and cycle them back to back instead of together
abformulations
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GQNemesis
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Iono if Folli is or not .. But can stack em, just have to seperate the dosages maybe (3-5hrs apart)
GQNemesis
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Lol tru he a beast
Joshlm69
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Wouldnt work, you want them both pre workout..... for obvious reasons. but they both synergise though
kissdadookie
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They may or may not synergize, but it's highly unlikely that one would antagonize the other.
Joshlm69
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Well I guess ill be your guinea pig starting the 4th. ABE/Folli/ARA, time to get massive (and really horrible doms)
GQNemesis
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i don't believe Folli just needs to be dosed apart like the write up says .. Really don't need pre .. ARa will provide u enough .. And if Folli should give u cumulative results better .. But hey ...
.. Nice love guinea pigs lol
Olympus Labs
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for what its worth im running ep1c and xgels together, great combo for sure.
abformulations
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So am I. Stacked for a month only though
GQNemesis
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iThrow
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Waiting on august 5th sale .. And I'll be running the same
same^ i want to get two months worth of EP1C and compare it to two months of Folli. i believe running them back to back is ok so imma hopefully get some killer gains on this 6 month bulk
GreenMachineX
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Both dosed preworkout only?
wolfpack893
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imo Ara is good, but seeing even better results with follidrone right now.
Contaygious
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Ara pwo only and ep1c everyday.
kisaj
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Great to hear, man.
mr.cooper69
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The stack is fine. Epicatechin at very high doses has weak anti-inflammatory activity, so at doses being used by consumers it has no anti-inflammatory effects for all intents and purposes. Stack away!
Auslifter
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would 400mg be the max for epi? (in the case of anti-inflammatory actvitiy) only ever gone 300mg
mr.cooper69
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I don't think any dose you can reach in supplements would interfere with xgels
Touey
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not meant to cause undue umbrage to you personally coop, there is not the least doubt I find anti-inflammatory benefits at least with the particular brand of (-)-epi I've been on
Danes
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ArA is one of few things i never have tried.
I must admit it is due to inflammatory (my shouder is not so good) . Many of my friends love ArA and i will run it self soon.
I am above 3 weeks on Follidrone (increased dosage to 6 pills after been on 2 and 4 ).
no strength gains ,no better endurance or anything that indicate this product is so anabolic. But hey, i am non responder? (We can say i am non responder) so i dont get my ass kicked by Brundel
I must admit it is due to inflammatory (my shouder is not so good) . Many of my friends love ArA and i will run it self soon.
I am above 3 weeks on Follidrone (increased dosage to 6 pills after been on 2 and 4 ).
no strength gains ,no better endurance or anything that indicate this product is so anabolic. But hey, i am non responder? (We can say i am non responder) so i dont get my ass kicked by Brundel
Jiigzz
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I've noticed, anecdotally, no enhanced anti-inflammatory effects.
Touey
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what brand are you on Hayden, how long; just curious
Jiigzz
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Ep1c and Massterone. I'm a little guttered the places I buy from didnt have follidrone in stock; being from NZ I am limited to places which ship internationally for a fair price. NP being one of them.
I must say though, I will never say I feel things like anti-inflammatory effects from supplements . I use a lot of health related supplements - Vitamin D3, Zinc, Magnesium etc. because I have known deficiencies in my diet (I get blood levels checked 6 monthly) but none of these I "feel" working. Most often because effects are gradual or because effects can be attributed to multiple factors.
Haha me to!
fightbackhxc
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I may have I remember thinking my shoulder doesn't hurt. Anecdotally that is.
De__eB
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As opposed to thinking your shoulder doesn't hurt...non-anecdotally?
your own personal experiences are always an anecdote
mw1
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If you check some logs around you will find several who used Xgels in PCT ~ most start about a week before pct
Jiigzz
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Xgels in PCT is a common trend. It help you maintain strength throughout PCT
Danes
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The way how ArA is working and all those studies in humans (athletes) ArA is one of the best Natty products . Been out for a while and people still love it and is buying it. SNS is great company and one of few companies i really trust. No sick claims ,no fairytale writeups, ultra quality sources and incredible good price
brundel
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Follidrone has effects similar to some of those you want from a pre workout.
Increased endurance
Huge pump
strength
Also the effect persists with Follidrone while stimulant based pre workout mixes start to lose their edge over time as your body gets used to the stimulants.
Lots of guys are in weeks 10-12 of a Follidrone cycle and still seeing the same performance enhancement that was seen in the beginning.
Combined with a decent pre workout supp or a homemade PWO mix Follidrone gives a ton of added horsepower.
Doesnt hurt that its seriously anabolic as well.
Increased endurance
Huge pump
strength
Also the effect persists with Follidrone while stimulant based pre workout mixes start to lose their edge over time as your body gets used to the stimulants.
Lots of guys are in weeks 10-12 of a Follidrone cycle and still seeing the same performance enhancement that was seen in the beginning.
Combined with a decent pre workout supp or a homemade PWO mix Follidrone gives a ton of added horsepower.
Doesnt hurt that its seriously anabolic as well.
GQNemesis
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Started Xgels and peak beta+ (+ preworkouts) so hoping for good things.
Great emurance stack .. I've stacked with original peak beta picked up real cheap
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