Follidrone 2.0 Log - FEMALE

When taking L-Glutamine and Creatine does anyone notice pain relief?
I suffer from multiple herniations in my back and have even had one partially removed via emergency surgery.
I have used both in conjunction and cant say that I ever noticed any pain relief. that said creatine is great for blood pressure and flow, and glutamine can elevate the immune system which might include boosting certain prostaglandins and such leading to some pain relief I would guess.
 
Week 4 of reverse update:

sitting at 119.2 lbs which is still under my weight when I ended my cut at 120lbs. Going to bump to:


1900 calories = Rest days
140g carbs
125g protein
92g fat


1925 calories =Active days
210g Carbs
125g Protein
65g Fat
 
When taking L-Glutamine and Creatine does anyone notice pain relief?
What type of pain are you referring to?

Week 4 of reverse update:

sitting at 119.2 lbs which is still under my weight when I ended my cut at 120lbs. Going to bump to:


1900 calories = Rest days
140g carbs
125g protein
92g fat


1925 calories =Active days
210g Carbs
125g Protein
65g Fat

Nice! How big of a jump is this one? I know you mentioned what you planned earlier but don't remember your macros from last week.
 
What type of pain are you referring to?



Nice! How big of a jump is this one? I know you mentioned what you planned earlier but don't remember your macros from last week.

Back pain.

Last week I was around
200g carbs
130g protein
60g fat
1850 calories

but the last two days(weekend) I did eat more and was more between 1950-2000 calories. This is what happens when you make Christmas cookies LOL
 
Back pain.

Last week I was around
200g carbs
130g protein
60g fat
1850 calories

but the last two days(weekend) I did eat more and was more between 1950-2000 calories. This is what happens when you make Christmas cookies LOL

Well if you don't taste them how will you know if they are good enough to give to others... ;)
 
Well if you don't taste them how will you know if they are good enough to give to others... ;)

agreed :laugh: having a free meal today since my weight hasn't gone up yet. Today is my works Christmas potluck!! YAY
 
Had two free meals Tuesday and Wednesday and here I am at 119.8lbs this morning. I'm ok with it :) LOL

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Looking real lean. Free meals are good for your mind once and awhile. As you noticed in moderation wont hurt your progress either
 
Thanks all!

yup still using FD2. 3 caps a day.

Now I only take Radiate for my pre-workout 1/2 scoop and on rest days 1/2 scoop in the morning until I reach maintenance calories just to help with some of that appetite. Even though I am at higher calories I am super hungry lately! I can tell my body is wanting the calories but trying to still not binge.

Great progress OP! Very awesome to see how FD2 has helped, and will continue to help, in your journey! Great log as well!
 
Great progress OP! Very awesome to see how FD2 has helped, and will continue to help, in your journey! Great log as well!

thank you all so very much. I know that lower my training days to 4 days instead of 5-6 has helped too. It is crazy how much better recovery I am having.
 
thank you all so very much. I know that lower my training days to 4 days instead of 5-6 has helped too. It is crazy how much better recovery I am having.

Im similar. I want to train every day but I feel much better and grow much faster when only training 2 on 1 off.
 
Looking great!!! Very impressive!
 
Excellent progress girl!! You look awesome!!!!!
 
thank you all! Havent been on the forums during the holidays but I am back with an update:

Week 6 of reverse now and I have weighed in between 120-123lbs and I had about 4 days of free meals.

Currently freezing here in Wisconsin so long sleeves during my workout is needed! :(

Next week I will be upping calories again since I havent went up much besides the days after my free meals/treat days.

Yesterday was my first day back to my "normal" foods and I weighed in this morning at 120lbs so only 2 lbs up since cut and I am increased 400 calories.


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Next weeks increase will be as follows:

2000 calories = Rest
150g carbs
125g protein
97g fat


2100 calories - Active
250g Carbs
125g Protein
66g Fat
 
Awesome job! You are killing it in here. Keep up the great work
 
Week 7 of reverse - I am up to 121 lbs. Decreasing cardio still. Trying to feed into intuitive eating and not tracking as closely since my weight is in a good spot and I am increased my macros to a decent amount.

Has anyone else following reversed before? How long did you reverse? Love to hear other stories.
 
Week 7 of reverse - I am up to 121 lbs. Decreasing cardio still. Trying to feed into intuitive eating and not tracking as closely since my weight is in a good spot and I am increased my macros to a decent amount.

Has anyone else following reversed before? How long did you reverse? Love to hear other stories.

You reverse until you are done growing, or stalled and ready to start leaning up again, or reach a point you want to maintain.

A reverse diet is just intelligently increasing your calories after a deficit, which is something you want to do at any point you are still trying to cause growth. I mean you can call it a lean bulking phase or whatever once you are farther away from the deficit but in practice it is still the same. Consistently driving the surplus at a slower pace minimizing fat gain.

It is similar to most suggested dietary strategies you don't just add a big chunk of cals when you start a bulk or you would get fat. Same with coming off the deficit. Once back at your old base calories just keep increasing slowly if your goal is growth. No need to actually change gears diet wise again until you start focusing on creating a deficit again, or if changing up macros and what not.
 
You reverse until you are done growing, or stalled and ready to start leaning up again, or reach a point you want to maintain.

A reverse diet is just intelligently increasing your calories after a deficit, which is something you want to do at any point you are still trying to cause growth. I mean you can call it a lean bulking phase or whatever once you are farther away from the deficit but in practice it is still the same. Consistently driving the surplus at a slower pace minimizing fat gain.

It is similar to most suggested dietary strategies you don't just add a big chunk of cals when you start a bulk or you would get fat. Same with coming off the deficit. Once back at your old base calories just keep increasing slowly if your goal is growth. No need to actually change gears diet wise again until you start focusing on creating a deficit again, or if changing up macros and what not.

Well I am currently eating about maintenance right now I believe. My maintenance was about 2,100 calories when I was 135lbs but now I am 15lbs less so I am eating about 2,050-2,100 so I could be a bit above. Do you usually keep increasing until you get +500 so for me it would be 2,600 calories or just keep going(so above 2,600 calories) until you look in mirror and gage the scale?
 
Phenomenal work.
 
Well I am currently eating about maintenance right now I believe. My maintenance was about 2,100 calories when I was 135lbs but now I am 15lbs less so I am eating about 2,050-2,100 so I could be a bit above. Do you usually keep increasing until you get +500 so for me it would be 2,600 calories or just keep going(so above 2,600 calories) until you look in mirror and gage the scale?

Just keep going, and if you aren't gaining right now then you aren't above yet. Obviously you want to go with average weight and not just after a few free meals with that but yeah, if not gaining yet then you are not above it yet. Don't be surprised if by the end of this you are at a leaner 135 eating 3000 cals for maintenance if that is your goal. When reverse dieting is done correctly it typically increases your resting metabolism quite a bit so what was your maintenance before is not likely to be after. I would expect a decent increase in it either way.

Yes just keep increasing don't worry about how high they are getting if the mirror is still showing positive results then you are on the right track. Once you reach the point you want to maintain then maintain it. If you get to soft before reaching your growth goals then you can either do mini cuts, and jump back into a surplus, or go maintenance for a bit to keep the new LBM then start cutting when the time is appropriate.

Either way though, use the mirror / progress pics as your guide. You are very consistent so you should be able to manipulate this very well.
 
Just keep going, and if you aren't gaining right now then you aren't above yet. Obviously you want to go with average weight and not just after a few free meals with that but yeah, if not gaining yet then you are not above it yet. Don't be surprised if by the end of this you are at a leaner 135 eating 3000 cals for maintenance if that is your goal. When reverse dieting is done correctly it typically increases your resting metabolism quite a bit so what was your maintenance before is not likely to be after. I would expect a decent increase in it either way.

Yes just keep increasing don't worry about how high they are getting if the mirror is still showing positive results then you are on the right track. Once you reach the point you want to maintain then maintain it. If you get to soft before reaching your growth goals then you can either do mini cuts, and jump back into a surplus, or go maintenance for a bit to keep the new LBM then start cutting when the time is appropriate.

Either way though, use the mirror / progress pics as your guide. You are very consistent so you should be able to manipulate this very well.

Ok because at the end of my cut I was 119-120lbs and now I am a 121lbs.I did weigh in one day at 123lbs which is 3-4lbs above. I wasnt really sure what to do with that weigh in. I feel like I am still pretty shredded LOL

I do weigh in everyday at the same time and then take the daily average.

Each weeks average weigh in's:
Week 1: 120.3 lbs
Week 2: 119.5 lbs
Week 3: 119.4 lbs
Week 4: 119.1 lbs
Week 5: 119.4 lbs
Week 6: 121.1 lbs
This week: 121.5 lbs
 
Ok because at the end of my cut I was 119-120lbs and now I am a 121lbs.I did weigh in one day at 123lbs which is 3-4lbs above. I wasnt really sure what to do with that weigh in. I feel like I am still pretty shredded LOL

I do weigh in everyday at the same time and then take the daily average.

Each weeks average weigh in's:
Week 1: 120.3 lbs
Week 2: 119.5 lbs
Week 3: 119.4 lbs
Week 4: 119.1 lbs
Week 5: 119.4 lbs
Week 6: 121.1 lbs
This week: 121.5 lbs

Nice, how would you compare your composition? It is only 1.2 lbs but would you say you are softer, or as lean and more full, or do you not really notice any difference in your look? If not adding fat then keep it moving up. YOu want to gain some weight, you just want the fat gain to be minimal. I think you could probably increase a little bit faster than you are from what I am seeing.
 
Nice, how would you compare your composition? It is only 1.2 lbs but would you say you are softer, or as lean and more full, or do you not really notice any difference in your look? If not adding fat then keep it moving up. YOu want to gain some weight, you just want the fat gain to be minimal. I think you could probably increase a little bit faster than you are from what I am seeing.

I think I still feel pretty lean, not anything noticeable. at the end of my cut and about 3 weeks into my reverse I could really see my obliques and some days they are much softer and not as noticeable :( LOL but I know I have been very modest with raising my calories not sure if its a good thing or bad thing...
 
I think I still feel pretty lean, not anything noticeable. at the end of my cut and about 3 weeks into my reverse I could really see my obliques and some days they are much softer and not as noticeable :( LOL but I know I have been very modest with raising my calories not sure if its a good thing or bad thing...

YOu seem a bit hesitant, I think you said you are going up 60 calories a week or something most weeks? I imagine you could be more aggressive, the thing is if you notice a jump was too aggressive you can simply revert back to the last caloric bump. Nothing lost and not long enough to have really gained anything negative. Just a whoops, not ready for that yet. Back down for a week or two then go up again and see how you do.
 
yea I agree u can add the calories back in a bit faster.. most men will bump by 300 per week. so since your a little reluctant to move too fast, just go up 100 cal per week. until you see the desired result.. I think its harder to notice it because of the effects of the follidrone. its GDA properties alone are capable of shunting the nutrients deep into the muscle which is quite evident in your pics.. your weight might not have changed much but your definitely leaner and that just tells me your doing a great job of making forward progress, adding mass and losing fat. it doesn't get much better than what you are achieving. just stay the course and your going to get where you want to be.

as for your concerns about seeing your obliques from day to day, remember the body is fighting you the whole time you are making these changes. it could be any thing from diet, stress, hormones, ect causing you to hold water even making you think your gaining fat. this is why testing your fat at this stage is very helpful. you never want to do something drastic to fix a problem like holding water. thinking you lost control, when in fact its just "body trickery" fooling you.

stick to your plan, and remember slow and steady wins the race~
 
YOu seem a bit hesitant, I think you said you are going up 60 calories a week or something most weeks? I imagine you could be more aggressive, the thing is if you notice a jump was too aggressive you can simply revert back to the last caloric bump. Nothing lost and not long enough to have really gained anything negative. Just a whoops, not ready for that yet. Back down for a week or two then go up again and see how you do.

I would agree with you analysis :lol: I think I am just trying to do this correctly. I am also slowly decreasing cardio and I have been bumping all my major lifts up. So trying to balance it is kind of hard. I was removing a whole day of working out and then that's why I didnt change much from one week to the other.

But this makes sense to start adding more back in.

yea I agree u can add the calories back in a bit faster.. most men will bump by 300 per week. so since your a little reluctant to move too fast, just go up 100 cal per week. until you see the desired result.. I think its harder to notice it because of the effects of the follidrone. its GDA properties alone are capable of shunting the nutrients deep into the muscle which is quite evident in your pics.. your weight might not have changed much but your definitely leaner and that just tells me your doing a great job of making forward progress, adding mass and losing fat. it doesn't get much better than what you are achieving. just stay the course and your going to get where you want to be.

as for your concerns about seeing your obliques from day to day, remember the body is fighting you the whole time you are making these changes. it could be any thing from diet, stress, hormones, ect causing you to hold water even making you think your gaining fat. this is why testing your fat at this stage is very helpful. you never want to do something drastic to fix a problem like holding water. thinking you lost control, when in fact its just "body trickery" fooling you.

stick to your plan, and remember slow and steady wins the race~

Which is why I love FD2.0! I know that this plays a huge roll now too since I have added more carbs in slowly. Thanks for the advice!

I appreciate anyone that chimes in :)
 
Sorry ya'll been sucking at this. when you get more food means you are more busy LOL

On week 9 of Reverse @ 120.8 lbs

2,300 calories = Active Days:
290g carbs
135g protein
68g fat

2000, calories = Rest Days:

135g carb
140g protein
100g fat

Will be honest. I was sick last week so it was tough getting in a lot of food. Slacked a few days and my weight dipped down once to 118lbs. Took 3 days off in a row which was well needed.

Feeling great again!

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currently on my 2nd bottle of a nonstop FD2 run.

Im in

I am currently on bottle 4 of 8 but may be getting more and do the same, will you be adding in Vector when it is released?

Sorry ya'll been sucking at this. when you get more food means you are more busy LOL

On week 9 of Reverse @ 120.8 lbs

2,300 calories = Active Days:
290g carbs
135g protein
68g fat

2000, calories = Rest Days:

135g carb
140g protein
100g fat

Will be honest. I was sick last week so it was tough getting in a lot of food. Slacked a few days and my weight dipped down once to 118lbs. Took 3 days off in a row which was well needed.

Feeling great again!

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The reverse dieting has been working great, i may try it next year after my summer cutting phase to prevent any rebound fat gain after cutting and transitioning into a lean mass gain phase, over here in the UK its quite cold most of the year, from Nov-Dec to Feb-March it is normally cold and nights are dark which makes it harder to keep dieting / cutting.

How has your overall endurance / strength been since increasing food with FD2 and are you tempted to increase dose past 3 caps per day?
 
I am currently on bottle 4 of 8 but may be getting more and do the same, will you be adding in Vector when it is released?



The reverse dieting has been working great, i may try it next year after my summer cutting phase to prevent any rebound fat gain after cutting and transitioning into a lean mass gain phase, over here in the UK its quite cold most of the year, from Nov-Dec to Feb-March it is normally cold and nights are dark which makes it harder to keep dieting / cutting.

How has your overall endurance / strength been since increasing food with FD2 and are you tempted to increase dose past 3 caps per day?

300% will be getting vector
 
I am currently on bottle 4 of 8 but may be getting more and do the same, will you be adding in Vector when it is released?



The reverse dieting has been working great, i may try it next year after my summer cutting phase to prevent any rebound fat gain after cutting and transitioning into a lean mass gain phase, over here in the UK its quite cold most of the year, from Nov-Dec to Feb-March it is normally cold and nights are dark which makes it harder to keep dieting / cutting.

How has your overall endurance / strength been since increasing food with FD2 and are you tempted to increase dose past 3 caps per day?

Ya it is cold here where I live from October-March. Been really good. Getting stronger. Did 100lb hip thrusts for the first time.

I would rather not dose more than needed :)
 
Sorry ya'll been sucking at this. when you get more food means you are more busy LOL

On week 9 of Reverse @ 120.8 lbs

2,300 calories = Active Days:
290g carbs
135g protein
68g fat

2000, calories = Rest Days:

135g carb
140g protein
100g fat

Will be honest. I was sick last week so it was tough getting in a lot of food. Slacked a few days and my weight dipped down once to 118lbs. Took 3 days off in a row which was well needed.

Feeling great again!

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I am of the opinion that you should enjoy yourself a nice refeed to balance out that caloric debt. You are trying to increase the metabolism at this point with the reverse dieting. So in this situation a nice big free meal would most likely benefit you and provide a leptin boost to speed metabolism back up, as well as bump up your glycogen stores to help with re-hydration. Increasing leptin levels is going to be key here. You might try a full on free meal or maybe a clean low fat high carb refeed if you want to be cautious.
 
I am of the opinion that you should enjoy yourself a nice refeed to balance out that caloric debt. You are trying to increase the metabolism at this point with the reverse dieting. So in this situation a nice big free meal would most likely benefit you and provide a leptin boost to speed metabolism back up, as well as bump up your glycogen stores to help with re-hydration. Increasing leptin levels is going to be key here. You might try a full on free meal or maybe a clean low fat high carb refeed if you want to be cautious.

This, and not just any carbs. Get you some starches! Pastas, breads, etc. You probably already know this...but worth saying.
 
With being sick I went to the doctor to update my blood work.

Blood Pressure:
Systolic: 100
Diastolic: 70

Cholesterol:
Total: 107
HDL: 65
LDL: 38
Triglycerides: 21

Glucose Fasting: 86

I am a healthy duck :)
 
Wow look at those numbers. You are the picture of health! Well other than just coming back from being sick that is...
 
With being sick I went to the doctor to update my blood work.

Blood Pressure:
Systolic: 100
Diastolic: 70

Cholesterol:
Total: 107
HDL: 65
LDL: 38
Triglycerides: 21

Glucose Fasting: 86

I am a healthy duck :)

Um, sick? Gee-Zus. Did he hang those numbers on his wall so that people know what they should be looking for?
 
Um, sick? Gee-Zus. Did he hang those numbers on his wall so that people know what they should be looking for?

HAHA this is awesome.
 
With being sick I went to the doctor to update my blood work.

Blood Pressure:
Systolic: 100
Diastolic: 70

Cholesterol:
Total: 107
HDL: 65
LDL: 38
Triglycerides: 21

Glucose Fasting: 86

I am a healthy duck :)
wow!! lookin as good inside as your tummy does from the outside! :clap2:
 
Currently on Week 10 and holding macros for the same amounts as above.

Weighed in 122 lbs twice this week already. So looks like the weight is shifting!

Physique still looking GOOD
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Core tightness is very impressive for the added size you've gained (most noticeable to me in your quads) -- excellent work
 
Based on your weight, i know you can potentially dose pro hormones higher for best effectiveness if you are a heavier guy but do i have to do the same for follidrone which is natural?
 
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