YoungBodyBuil
Banned
im about to add fd2 to my test mast e winny and trendione cycle and ill probably have to up my carbs to like 600 just to not pass out lmfao
FOLLIDRONE 2.0 FAQ Updated follidrone writeup and info***
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vascopro
Member
Studhorse
Legend
You should like it.
Ran it for 8 weeks at 3 per day. Lost 2% body fat and gained 3 lbs. Diet was semi clean and really watched the sweets. at my age that is about as strict as I get with a diet. hit around 200g of protein a day.
one of the best supplements I have ever ran. and I have tried a lot.
vascopro
Member
I'm finishing my second bottle.
My third is in the way...
I was curious about effects of taking more than 3 caps...
justhere4comm
Banned
Everyone has different intestinal flora and fauna and different intestinal health etc. With something like FD2 that has so many things working to increase absorption it can be a bit hard on the GI tract at first for some and consistently for a few. Its worth it though. The result is you absorbing all these tasty ingredients to the fullest potential which in turn gives us the results we want like fat loss, strength, endurance, muscle mass etc.
Its worth it ultimately I think and testament to this is the multiple guys mentioning this is their 2-5th bottle.
I have some good news.
3x labs for the HGH product have been run. Results soon.
A new group of anabolic plants are on deck for testing. Hopefully we see some results from one or more of them. IF so well dev another new anabolic.
And finally the pre workout product is rounding out. Its really starting to shine and there are some really interesting things going on.
A...component that I didnt expect to be able to have is beginning to look like one of the stars. This is exciting and youll see why soon
The product is mostly plant extracts and we are having some issues 1. with flavoring as it can be hard to cover some extracts and 2. keeping it from absorbing water from the air. Lots of plant extracts do this and its fine unless its a powder in a bottle that opens daily for 30-60 days+. = tar in a bottle.
So....working on either eliminating the culprit or adding something to stabilize. Just wanted to update you guys. SOon.
Looking forward to both!
bigsmall
Banned
I have been using 4-6 caps a day for quite a while now. I just eat one with each meal / use more caps on higher carb days. Pumped all the time and feel great. Simply the effects you see and feel with 3 caps become more pronounced as you add additional caps. Beyond the known benefits, I notice my body and mind generally more relaxed (less inflammation I guess) and I am recovering faster. I am in my 40's and I feel at least 10 years younger.
dcoen21
Active member
Day three and the hunger pains suck I am trying to recomp but find myself eating a extra 700-1000 Cals just so I feel better any one else know how to deal with these as I don't think I can take a month or two of this if this is going to continue to increase as the days go by.
bigsmall
Banned
I find I am not able to lose scale weight on FD2...but I get leaner. Eating at maintenance or below makes me shaky. The sweet spot for me was eating about the same extra calories you are. Be patient with it....you'll like the results.
Studhorse
Legend
This is exactly how it was for me.
yelis300
Member
Same here as well, I think I was closer to that 1000 cal mark for my sweet spot. I actually looked leaner in the mirror but the scale was going up for me. And I've done some PH's and I don't think any of them did that like FD2.
bigsmall
Banned
If you dose with a carb base or while eating carbs and not increase past 3 caps, you may be good. Whatever the case, you will get leaner. Its something to get used too. If dosing 2 pre-workout, make sure you have at least 30g carbs with it and I recommend having glucose on hand at the gym. It's very difficult to lose scale weight on this stuff and easy to put on lean mass (like nothing natural I have ever seen).
brundel
Board Sponsor
You gotta eat above maintenance.
Its worth it. Everyone seems to have a sweet spot and it may take a week or so to find it. Just enough carbs to deal with the hypo and enough added fat and protein to deal with the increased protein synthesis.
brundel
Board Sponsor
Well yes obv we would use a dessicant like a silica pack but its still going to be exposed to alot of moisture. If you live in a humid environment this might be a problem.
Excipients can be used as well but these tend to reduce absorption of the ingredients. Especially magnesium stearate which is super common in supplements.
brundel
Board Sponsor
Pretty much everyone experiences some side effects if carbs are not eaten around the dosing of FD2.
Try dosing the product with a carb meal. You might be fine as is.
brundel
Board Sponsor
vujade
Well-known member
As soon as I get the final word i will post it here...
In the meantime, you can get a 2 bottle combo plus get an extra 5% off using vujade5 at checkout.
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GreenMachineX
Well-known member
Can you shed any more info on the GH product or natty product? Maybe a timeline?Brundel said:
justhere4comm
Banned
I knew my hair was getting thicker.
7eman7
Member
Cool. Gonna be stacking it with some transdernal epi so may only need 2 caps of the FD2
GreenMachineX
Well-known member
That could be a bad thing, right?
ELROCK
Well-known member
Everyone has different intestinal flora and fauna and different intestinal health etc. With something like FD2 that has so many things working to increase absorption it can be a bit hard on the GI tract at first for some and consistently for a few. Its worth it though. The result is you absorbing all these tasty ingredients to the fullest potential which in turn gives us the results we want like fat loss, strength, endurance, muscle mass etc.
Its worth it ultimately I think and testament to this is the multiple guys mentioning this is their 2-5th bottle.
I have some good news.
3x labs for the HGH product have been run. Results soon.
A new group of anabolic plants are on deck for testing. Hopefully we see some results from one or more of them. IF so well dev another new anabolic.
And finally the pre workout product is rounding out. Its really starting to shine and there are some really interesting things going on.
A...component that I didnt expect to be able to have is beginning to look like one of the stars. This is exciting and youll see why soon
The product is mostly plant extracts and we are having some issues 1. with flavoring as it can be hard to cover some extracts and 2. keeping it from absorbing water from the air. Lots of plant extracts do this and its fine unless its a powder in a bottle that opens daily for 30-60 days+. = tar in a bottle.
So....working on either eliminating the culprit or adding something to stabilize. Just wanted to update you guys. SOon.
Or make it a capped pre-workout product!
Btw, very interested in your other potential products as well.
Studhorse
Legend
I think he already answered this one. No one wants to swollow 20-30 capsules
horizons
Well-known member
I'm already on low dose finastride... interesting effect! Considering people are getting libido increases
yelis300
Member
I noticed my hair was growing much faster than usual when I was about 3 weeks into my first bottle, and I think some others noticed it too. And somebody mentioned a small amount of tingling on the scalp and a little on the arms too I think. My guess was the tingling was from stimulation of the hair follicles.
That is weird about the improved erection quality and libido. The 5ar reduction should make it more difficult to get/maintain erection but its not. The EC gave me a big boost in that area.
horizons
Well-known member
3 weeks is a ridiculous turnaround to see any growth. It must tap into other hair growing pathways that 5ar
Fin has never effected my libido or erections ever and I've been on it for 4 or 5 years so this is also possible
Wagner83
Member
Ecklonia cava seems to have both 5ar inhibiting properties and also helps with hair growth by itself, this is why it's been used as a remedy against hair loss!
GreenMachineX Yes it definitely could, but then we have to figure out how relevant it is to oral supplementation, what dose etc..
As I said ecklonia cava has other benefits for hair, it also has great benefits for blood flow , anti inflammatory and possibly anti allergic properties which should help with hair health , erections and well being in general.
brundel
Board Sponsor
I did not. Thanks for posting this. Its amazing because so many things that inhibit 5ar seem to also cause sexual dysfunction.
Ecklonia, however, does the exact opposite as most people experience at least some increase in sexual function while others have a much greater response. We have talked about ecklonia being compared to viagra in studies and proving superior in most or all cases.
I have also heard about this being studied for regrowing hair.
Either way this is just another positive attribute to this amazing seaweed.
brundel
Board Sponsor
Currently the HGH product is getting spotty labs. I think its a timing thing as GH is released in spikes and Im uncertain exactly when to test as there is 0 reference to base this off of.
We will continue to run labs but unless we get a huge hit soon I may call it a failed experiment because the cost will be higher than I want to spend on something with no guarantees.
100% of users love it and everyone is asking for more. One of our testers got a negative hgh and a negative igf1 lab personally and is still asking for more bottles. My point is we know its working but I have to have labs to prove it or I pull the plug.
I have a batch of raws I should get later this week that has 3 new potential anabolics. All natural, plant based of course.
I also have been thinking about how to package the pre. I might package it in a box with single use packets. This product doesnt need multi serving doses as its dosed properly at a single use
I cant ever really give you guys a real timeline until things are more solid. This is because I have a ton in the works (not just BLR) and IM only one man.
Since all the r&d is done by me personally it takes time. I expect the pre will be next though and hopefully within 60 days.
rtmilburn
Well-known member
Great idea for sticks with the preCurrently the HGH product is getting spotty labs. I think its a timing thing as GH is released in spikes and Im uncertain exactly when to test as there is 0 reference to base this off of.
We will continue to run labs but unless we get a huge hit soon I may call it a failed experiment because the cost will be higher than I want to spend on something with no guarantees.
100% of users love it and everyone is asking for more. One of our testers got a negative hgh and a negative igf1 lab personally and is still asking for more bottles. My point is we know its working but I have to have labs to prove it or I pull the plug.
I have a batch of raws I should get later this week that has 3 new potential anabolics. All natural, plant based of course.
I also have been thinking about how to package the pre. I might package it in a box with single use packets. This product doesnt need multi serving doses as its dosed properly at a single use
I cant ever really give you guys a real timeline until things are more solid. This is because I have a ton in the works (not just BLR) and IM only one man.
Since all the r&d is done by me personally it takes time. I expect the pre will be next though and hopefully within 60 days.
ELROCK
Well-known member
I really like this idea too. Makes it easier just to have it in your pocket to have on the go for those of us that hit the gym after work.
justhere4comm
Banned
Sticks for Pre would be perfection for freshness and convenience!
brundel
Board Sponsor
Are any of you guys able to take FD2 without carbs?
Taking it without carbs may increase the fat burning potential many times over. It seems that most experience sides without carbs though.
Just curious. For anyone whos able to take it without. What have your experiences been with regards to fat loss?
Taking it without carbs may increase the fat burning potential many times over. It seems that most experience sides without carbs though.
Just curious. For anyone whos able to take it without. What have your experiences been with regards to fat loss?
omega_spartan
New member
I have started taking it on non training days on an empty stomach the past week to see if it has an effect on increased lipolysis due to no fresh circulating glucose. Other than some very minor dull stomach ache for about 30 min after ingestion, I haven't had any hypoglycemic sides.
I will try it with some fasted cardio this coming week.
justhere4comm
Banned
Same. Will give it a go.
doogans
Active member
I always dose without carbs. No hypo effects for me. I've been in a caloric deficit and my waist has shrunk considerably
chedapalooza
Legend
When I took it in the spring I was only averaging 50g carbs daily and that was back loading after workouts. Vascularity and pump during lifts was nuts and no hypo sides, tho i am very used to Keto/ low carb
Tank999
Well-known member
Been on strict keto taking 5x fd2 - I just don't take more than 1 at a time and I'm ok. I can't pin my weight loss directly because I'm also on Letrone and Exo.
TheViking
lurking AM since -04
I'm on IF everyday since a few years back. I only eat in the evenings, I always train fasted. Been using FD2, brite and exotherm for about 3 weeks. I do get some stomach ache sometimes, which goes away kinda quick. I get hypo mostly on training days, and it seems to have something to do with my intake of my pwo-drink, which mainly consists of EAA. other than that I don't get hypo at all. Regarding fat loss so far I'm leaning out on my chest and arms, and belly fat is definitely more "loose". Good to know the fat mobilisation effects seem greater while taing FD2 fasted. Got 2 bottles so we'll see how it pans out.
abformulations
Legend
I personally always take it without carbs with no issues. Greater sweat in the gym, also keeping full without the carbs.
Can't get off it ha
GreenMachineX
Well-known member
Even though y'all are taking it without carbs, are you still taking with meals?
paul56778
Well-known member
I use FD2 without carbs and get on fine with it, 1 in the AM fasted and 2 PWO sometimes fasted and sometimes after just protein e.g. casein and whey based protein shake, i have also been running a low carb diet for most of this year and do not get the bad hypo effects others have had problems with.
justhere4comm
Banned
Today without carbs. No problem. Will see if a week brings about anything unique.
bb333
Well-known member
I just bought another jar of follidrone2.0!
Currently are IF, not I train on an empty stomach, before training do at least 2 meals rich in carbohydrates.
On workout days, 2cps of folli2, take them on an empty stomach, of course, at least about 2 hours after meals 2 meals (carbohydrate, protein, fat).
1 cps flow take about 2 hours after postwork, before dinner, last meal of the day, with many, many carbohydrates.
Currently are IF, not I train on an empty stomach, before training do at least 2 meals rich in carbohydrates.
On workout days, 2cps of folli2, take them on an empty stomach, of course, at least about 2 hours after meals 2 meals (carbohydrate, protein, fat).
1 cps flow take about 2 hours after postwork, before dinner, last meal of the day, with many, many carbohydrates.
crowbar46
Active member
Ok, sorry for the questions that, I'm sure, have been gone over many times:
1) should fd2 be dosed on an empty stomach, followed by a meal say 1/2 or 1 hour later, or is it OK to take with food?
2) when you talk about dosing pre-workout, are we talking 15 min., or more like 1 hour or 2 hours pre?
3) I train 4 hours after waking up. Should I dose one cap before/with breakfast and another 2 caps before training, or would that be taking the doses too close together for maximum benefit?
This will be my first run with Fd2 and I'm really looking forward to it after running Letrone (the first BLR product that I've used)!
I'll be recomping/lean bulking with 1-andro, Epi andro, Super DHEA, Origin, and Fd2
Thanks for the help,
Crowbar
1) should fd2 be dosed on an empty stomach, followed by a meal say 1/2 or 1 hour later, or is it OK to take with food?
2) when you talk about dosing pre-workout, are we talking 15 min., or more like 1 hour or 2 hours pre?
3) I train 4 hours after waking up. Should I dose one cap before/with breakfast and another 2 caps before training, or would that be taking the doses too close together for maximum benefit?
This will be my first run with Fd2 and I'm really looking forward to it after running Letrone (the first BLR product that I've used)!
I'll be recomping/lean bulking with 1-andro, Epi andro, Super DHEA, Origin, and Fd2
Thanks for the help,
Crowbar