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FOLLIDRONE 2.0 FAQ Updated follidrone writeup and info***

anabolix said:
Nice! I look forward to trying the new anabolic :-)
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I wish there was a way for us to eliminate the discomfort for you guys though. The product is exceptional.
Im gonna see what I can find in the way of solutions. Not gonna change the formula but perhaps we can find something that can blunt this side.
Think of it like this....pretty much all anabolics have side effects. Most anabolic hormones have all kinds of negative cardiac, liver, hormonal sides but we take them like they are going out of style and just take a half dozen ancillaries to cope. FD2 has none of those health risks but gives you joint pain. There has to be a way....Hopefully I can find a solution for you guys.
 
brundel said:
The problem with this is taking out the absorption package reduces the effects of the actives making the product FAR less effective.
In addition, its likely an active could be causing the issue. Quercetin for example causes joint pain for some people even at low doses of normal quercetin. We are not using normal quercetin.
Ours is a co crystal with niacin bonded to the quercetin molecules. This makes the quercetin stronger by many times over as your absorbing 50-70+times more than normal. NOrmal quercetin is not well absorbed. Perhaps 1%. The co crystal increases this to 50+%. So we are talking a more than 50 times greater increase in absorption. Basically taking normal quercetin is pretty much worthless. The co crystal= effective. So we are seeing new side effects from it that most, except for those SUPER sensitive to it, would normally not experience. We could remove it and test it, we could remove other things and test it but in the end the product would be nerfed and the effects reduced.
We are selling Follidrone 2.0 at about the same volume as all of our other products combined currently and many users are buying 3-5 bottles at a time.
The vast majority is seeing results greater than any other natural anabolic I know of. We dont want to break this.
Unfortunately, lots of exceptionally strong compounds will cause side effects for a small percentage of users. We can try to find solutions and work arounds but we for 100% certain are not changing the formula because 99% of users love it and are returning for more and more and more.

We have a new anabolic coming soon that wont have the same formula. Its been testing super well and we have seen no sides thus far.
So, if you cant tolerate the FD2 youll have this option shortly.
And we have a pretty epic Pre coming shortly.
And 3 more on deck. ....options :)
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I'm in.
 
brundel said:
The problem with this is taking out the absorption package reduces the effects of the actives making the product FAR less effective.
In addition, its likely an active could be causing the issue. Quercetin for example causes joint pain for some people even at low doses of normal quercetin. We are not using normal quercetin.
Ours is a co crystal with niacin bonded to the quercetin molecules. This makes the quercetin stronger by many times over as your absorbing 50-70+times more than normal. NOrmal quercetin is not well absorbed. Perhaps 1%. The co crystal increases this to 50+%. So we are talking a more than 50 times greater increase in absorption. Basically taking normal quercetin is pretty much worthless. The co crystal= effective. So we are seeing new side effects from it that most, except for those SUPER sensitive to it, would normally not experience. We could remove it and test it, we could remove other things and test it but in the end the product would be nerfed and the effects reduced.
We are selling Follidrone 2.0 at about the same volume as all of our other products combined currently and many users are buying 3-5 bottles at a time.
The vast majority is seeing results greater than any other natural anabolic I know of. We dont want to break this.
Unfortunately, lots of exceptionally strong compounds will cause side effects for a small percentage of users. We can try to find solutions and work arounds but we for 100% certain are not changing the formula because 99% of users love it and are returning for more and more and more.

We have a new anabolic coming soon that wont have the same formula. Its been testing super well and we have seen no sides thus far.
So, if you cant tolerate the FD2 youll have this option shortly.
And we have a pretty epic Pre coming shortly.
And 3 more on deck. ....options :)
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:O
bellissimo!!!

? folli3 ?

I have not tried Viron, shame :(
 
Wagner83 said:
Well guess what I just did , if you take 30 seconds out of your day and do a quick search (examine etc..) maybe you'll find it could be useful, maybe not.
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You make a statement you back it up. And you expect me to waste my time with google. Haha thank you for the link I will decide later if I have 30secs to spare for reading. ?
 
brundel said:
I wish there was a way for us to eliminate the discomfort for you guys though. The product is exceptional.
Im gonna see what I can find in the way of solutions. Not gonna change the formula but perhaps we can find something that can blunt this side.
Think of it like this....pretty much all anabolics have side effects. Most anabolic hormones have all kinds of negative cardiac, liver, hormonal sides but we take them like they are going out of style and just take a half dozen ancillaries to cope. FD2 has none of those health risks but gives you joint pain. There has to be a way....Hopefully I can find a solution for you guys.
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40 days with crowds 2, no joint pain!
What can it be? I'll be a case of trial? :D
Studied me!
 
I think the only reason my wrists hurt a little is because my weights were / are going up. Might need some support like wrist straps.
 
justhere4comm said:
I think the only reason my wrists hurt a little is because my weights were / are going up. Might need some support like wrist straps.
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Or do some wrist curls every other day so your wrist strength keeps up and you dont have to wear wrist supports for ever - unless your hefting super heavy then there might be no choice. Just my 2c
 
bb333 said:
:O
bellissimo!!!

? folli3 ?

I have not tried Viron, shame :(
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Will be a whole new product. No epicatechin or ecklonia cava etc. Looks like great stuff though. Well know soon enough.
Viron is great stuff.
 
Starting this run with tr1umph Monday.
Just finished my first alphamax/ARA run with great results...Wanted to compare the 2. Planning on running for 8 wks.

Any tips/insight on dosage timing etc? Anything else beneficial to stack with?
 
Kruse90 said:
Starting this run with tr1umph Monday.
Just finished my first alphamax/ARA run with great results...Wanted to compare the 2. Planning on running for 8 wks.

Any tips/insight on dosage timing etc? Anything else beneficial to stack with?
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Dose 3 caps daily. On training days I like 2 pre workout and 1 maybe 6+ hours before or after depending on when you train.
I suggest eating more total calories and an intraworkout drink with some carbs in it. I do 10g bcaa, 10g leucine, 50g waxy maize and 5g creatine in my water for the gym.
 
deadlyzach said:
Anyone currently stacking fd2 with Mk-677? I've been thinking of adding the 677 to my stack.
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I realize this is a somewhat old post but I'm trying this as well. I've been on MK-677 for about 4 months with great results, and I'm now adding FD2 -- just started this past Monday. brundel do you have any reports of other people trying this? What to expect? I'm trying to recomp - eating at maintenance or slightly below. Plan to go through 2 bottles of FD :)
 
brundel I can't say for sure if it's the fd2 that's causing my problems. I need proper time and correct way of going about process of elimination before concluding. Right now it can be coincidence and I'd hate to blame fd2 falsely.
 
brundel said:
Will be a whole new product. No epicatechin or ecklonia cava etc. Looks like great stuff though. Well know soon enough.
Viron is great stuff.
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Just decided, after looking into various products which will not be named here.
I am holding off on any future plans to buy any supplements towards my March cycle until brundel and the new sups. This is certainly going to be worth waiting for.

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migseattle said:
I realize this is a somewhat old post but I'm trying this as well. I've been on MK-677 for about 4 months with great results, and I'm now adding FD2 -- just started this past Monday. brundel do you have any reports of other people trying this? What to expect? I'm trying to recomp - eating at maintenance or slightly below. Plan to go through 2 bottles of FD :)
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Alot depends on your current bodyfat %. If your 10% ish then I suggest increased cals.
If your 20% ish I suggest reduced cals.
If your in between somewhere Id say maybe maintenance and see what happens. If you start losing weight add some protein in.
 
justhere4comm said:
Just decided, after looking into various products which will not be named here.
I am holding off on any future plans to buy any supplements towards my March cycle until brundel and the new sups. This is certainly going to be worth waiting for.

Until then, my 6-8 week cut with Follidrone 2.0 Invalid Link Removed
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We will be running some dosage testing starting next week for the anabolic.
Might be sooner than we think.
 
brundel said:
Alot depends on your current bodyfat %. If your 10% ish then I suggest increased cals.
If your 20% ish I suggest reduced cals.
If your in between somewhere Id say maybe maintenance and see what happens. If you start losing weight add some protein in.
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Thanks man. Any specific feedback on stacking FD with MK677? Do they have a good synergy?
 
I take my dose before a meal!
The dose of the morning, I take at least 4 hours before my first meal of the day (diet if 16/8)
 
I have always taken it fasted in the AM one cap 4 hours prior to 1st meal and then 2 caps 7-8 hours later 2-3 hours after 1st meal and 30 minutes to an hour pre workout.

but when eating carbs which has been once every 2 weeks on a sunday i have dosed FD2 1 cap 3 x throughout day with carb heavy meals and a combination of 2 caps EBF recompadrol and 2-4 caps of Evomuse Defuse and 2 caps of DCP.

I am also on a 16/8 IF protocol which i have been following for past 2 years now.
 
paul56778 said:
I have always taken it fasted in the AM one cap 4 hours prior to 1st meal and then 2 caps 7-8 hours later 2-3 hours after 1st meal and 30 minutes to an hour pre workout.

but when eating carbs which has been once every 2 weeks on a sunday i have dosed FD2 1 cap 3 x throughout day with carb heavy meals and a combination of 2 caps EBF recompadrol and 2-4 caps of Evomuse Defuse and 2 caps of DCP.

I am also on a 16/8 IF protocol which i have been following for past 2 years now.
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That's one helluva stack!
 
I have been running this for a while now and feel it has continued to make improvements to my body, e.g. allowing more fat loss whilst allowing for me to maintain muscle fullness whilst cutting going harsh e.g. 4-6 weeks of PSMF and 3 weeks running PSMF on just casein and whey protein shakes, no solid food which i am never going to try again.

3 weeks on just protein shakes is a major test of discipline and a good test of mental strength i feel.

I did eventually go up to 6 caps per day for a short time period and did notice additional fat loss whilst maintaining or even gaining weight on scales, i find this product does work well to hold muscle when running on low calories,

what dosage do you all feel is the sweet spot when adding mass, because next week i will be moving into my maintenance level of calories then ease into a slight bulk and will keep adding calories in to perform a winter bulking cycle.

i will have a 6 week break from FD2 and then resume use to improve effects of anabolics which can taper off by the 6 week mark.

E.g. would it be better to use the recommended 3 caps, 1 am and 2 PWO, or go to 6 when used in combination with anabolics.

Overall trying to assess price to reward effectiveness and what everyone else feels is the sweet spot before diminished returns.
 
I switched up my dosing and I'm really liking 3 caps pre and 1 6 hours later.

Feel more pumped and intensity is up.
 
I take 3cps day.

day on, in chronological order, 1 cps flow 30 minutes before the meal, 2cps 30 minutes preworkout!

day off, 2cps barely awake, about 5 or 6 hours before the meal, 1 cps flow 30 minutes before a meal.
 
paul56778 said:
I have been running this for a while now and feel it has continued to make improvements to my body, e.g. allowing more fat loss whilst allowing for me to maintain muscle fullness whilst cutting going harsh e.g. 4-6 weeks of PSMF and 3 weeks running PSMF on just casein and whey protein shakes, no solid food which i am never going to try again.

3 weeks on just protein shakes is a major test of discipline and a good test of mental strength i feel.

I did eventually go up to 6 caps per day for a short time period and did notice additional fat loss whilst maintaining or even gaining weight on scales, i find this product does work well to hold muscle when running on low calories,

what dosage do you all feel is the sweet spot when adding mass, because next week i will be moving into my maintenance level of calories then ease into a slight bulk and will keep adding calories in to perform a winter bulking cycle.

i will have a 6 week break from FD2 and then resume use to improve effects of anabolics which can taper off by the 6 week mark.

E.g. would it be better to use the recommended 3 caps, 1 am and 2 PWO, or go to 6 when used in combination with anabolics.

Overall trying to assess price to reward effectiveness and what everyone else feels is the sweet spot before diminished returns.
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I loved being @ 6/day but made me too tired and had a hard time getting in enough whole food in order to bulk. I just kept losing too much fat lol. I think 1 morning, 2 pre and 1 nighttime would be good for bulking purposes. Any more than 5 I think is where you would see diminishing returns IMO.
 
yelis300 said:
I loved being @ 6/day but made me too tired and had a hard time getting in enough whole food in order to bulk. I just kept losing too much fat lol. I think 1 morning, 2 pre and 1 nighttime would be good for bulking purposes. Any more than 5 I think is where you would see diminishing returns IMO.
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I keep thinking of upping my dose but slow and steady wins the race my man. You know it.

It's a great sup. The best and most efficient delivery of -(-epi) you can get with ec which I love!
 
When I was taking it 3 was really good, I upped it to 4 but saw way too many morning hypo numbers, I'm diabetic so checking the numbers is imperative. When I started I was 165 ish, I ran it for 3 months and dropped bf while gaining 9 pounds....
 
GreenMachineX said:
Do you take those 3 caps with carbs? I take 1 preworkout and it screws my blood sugar.
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No carbs. I never got hypo. I did those fats (soy lecithin). It can get you hypo though for those who are sensitive. I won't go more then 4 caps though. For those who need carbs I'll do 2 pre and the other two with carbs
 
jmero2 said:
When I was taking it 3 was really good, I upped it to 4 but saw way too many morning hypo numbers, I'm diabetic so checking the numbers is imperative. When I started I was 165 ish, I ran it for 3 months and dropped bf while gaining 9 pounds....
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Nice gains. I gained 2lb. And dropped 2%bf in 8 weeks. Taken as recommend and only ate semi clean.
 
One other suggestion for joint support. I have random gout flare-ups which is the most excruciating joint pain you can have. In looking for relief I came across Bromelain. It has helped quite a bit. I take 2400Gdu/500mg 2 times daily. I've also been using FD 2.0 for about 7 weeks. In that time I have noticed no discernible increase in joint pain. Maybe I'm lucky? Maybe the Bromelain helps? It's cheap. Worth a shot.

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tribaltek said:
I've also been using FD 2.0 for about 7 weeks. In that time I have noticed no discernible increase in joint pain. Maybe I'm lucky? Maybe the Bromelain helps? It's cheap. Worth a shot.

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I think you are just lucky. I take bromeline and still have terrible joint pain with fd2.
 
Ran at prescribed dose for 10 weeks and no pain. Up the dose this run to 5-6 a day. Eating above maintenance and losing fat/gaining muscle. But some joint pain. Manageable and worth it. Awesome freakin natty recomp cycle on pct! Love this stuff!
 
Interesting findings. I've been on 3 per day for 6 weeks, and have just started to up my dose to 4-5 per day and consuming more carbs. My conclusion based on previous users has been we build up to the higher doses with few or no sides. I only had some joint issues in the very beginning, and didn't even attribute them to FD2.0 per se.

No joint issues moving forward, and my cut seems to have turned into something else. I'm seeing recomping effects, as my waist is reducing, while I'm gaining muscularity, and definition. I'm really enjoying the process, and will stay on FD2.0 for the foreseeable future, no matter what additional ancillary I choose to cycle on. That's another question for another discussion however, and not until February / March, so I will be seeking suggestions by seasoned vets.

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Follidrone 2.0 is winning addition to my cut / recomp efforts (LOG) Invalid Link Removed

Edit: Added link. I think I may have done this already.
 
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justhere4comm said:
Interesting findings. I've been on 3 per day for 6 weeks, and have just started to up my dose to 4-5 per day and consuming more carbs. My conclusion based on previous users has been we build up to the higher doses with few or no sides. ......
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I suspect that if I had slowly built up to the higher dose I too would have zero issues. Live and learn....
 
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