10mg tabs. My last cycle was 80mg tbol and 60mg winstrol (alongside test and deca), I dont know why this is so intolerable... ive run adrol and M1T as well and never had these issues.... its just f***ed
It is not as safe as those that is why. There is a reason that research was halted on SD and it was decided not to make it a medicine... The ones you are referring to made it through all of the safety protocols. Well the M1T that one is brutal but you were just also sick too right?
Hell ya. Almost the same results- half the side effects. If you’re one of the lucky ones that can run it at 20mg, go for it. I struggle to eat at all though even on 10. Still seen ridiculous body composition changes more than any other drug with low dose SD. To this day, I’ve run almost everything out there, Trest and SD at low doses was the most jaw dropping transformation I’ve ever experienced.
Yeah 10 works nice, 10 on off days and 20 on lifting days also works well and staves off how quickly some of the sides get you if you are someone who gets a lot of sides.
Im running my trt alongside 350mg of tren e and currently 10mg of superdrol until I feel better (dont want to waste it). When do your 10mg to ensure your best results? I read its half life is only 8-9 hours...
Lots of beliefs but I always feel like having the gear closest to training and when you will be consuming the most food is the most beneficial. It's bro logic, but it is sound enough if you are going to limit the dosing. It only makes sense that you want the SD higher in your system to take advantage of the neurological benefits to help with strength. It also only makes sense to have the most nutrients available while the SD is highest in your system.
Not saying that you wouldn't make plenty gains taking it at any time during the day but the laws of specificity apply to gear the same as they do to anything else. Just like nutrient timing, it matters... Do you think you can make better use of a large portion of food right after training, or just whenever you decided to eat regardless of training? Same premise here.
I am currently taking 10mg a day and 20 on training days. I do IF right now and I take my SD an hour before training then start sipping my intra drink before my warm up, and then eat big the rest of the night. Then fall asleep when most of the recovery happens and I still have high levels of SD in my system. It's working well for my goals.
My plan originally was to take 10mg at 6am and 10 mg at 4pm (workout usually starts around 530-6), but I guess that will all depend on if I can tolerate 20.
Sounds good.
I’m clearly not an expert on SD as this is my first run, but I’m taken every other oral except halo. That being said because of the 8-9 hour half life I wouldn’t think you would get as much out of it as opposed to running 20mg a day and creating more stable blood levels.
People take the stable blood levels thing too far... most are on injectables while on SD so there androgen levels are always elevated... Also tons of people use gear for preworkout, think about it. Preworkout DBol, Ment/Trest, Halo, TNE. All intentionally creating a massive imbalance in the androgen levels.
Most importantly natural androgen levels change daily and throughout the day. So stable is not something that is supposed to happen in your system. GH comes in spikes, testosterone is created at night. Worrying about keeping levels even is kind of silly.
Yeah pulsing seem like a wild shot, plus I'm sure the suppression would kick in before too long. Still, I'd imagine pulsing SD would be better than natty
Pulsing SD @ 30mg 3-4 times a week for 6 weeks got me as many gains as running 20mg daily for 4 and I felt WAY BETTER!!!!!
You’re right, pulsing would be better than natty, but if you have enough pills to pulse 40mg 3 times a week.... what would make you choose that over 20mg a day. Also, unstable blood levels and large infrequent dosing causes more side effects.
Do they? Again look at all the examples of pre workout gear that is used intentionally to do the thing you are saying causes more side effects but anyone I know who has run a pulse cycle will tell you for certain the sides are far less. Your body has a chance to recover a little bit multiple times throughout the week. You can also limit NAC and Milk thistle on cycling days so not to destroy as much of the compound then take higher doses of them on off days to help with recovery.
Yep. In my opinion, it's a waste of time, and product.
I respect you brother but have you actually ran a pulsed cycle before and had a lackluster experience. If not that is a pretty strong statement to make not having any personal experience?
I know you understand that oral steroids are active from the moment you ingest them. They do their thing immediately, there is no need for build up in the system, or anything. They get into the system and off to work. It doesn't matter if you string 10 days @ 20mg together or 10 days @ 20mg EOD over 20 days, you are going to get the same effect out of that dose of gear for that 10 days of use. So sure the gains are slower, but less effective, definitely not. However it definitely helps with side effect manageability.
Pulse cycles are definitely not a waste of time, or product. Just a less aggressive approach with more focus on mitigating sides than gaining as quickly as possible.
My experience, all aromatizing compounds (Dbol not included) carbs low, no extra sodium, plenty of water, strong AI,= Zero bloat.
Last time I ran Dbol was 2014 and I was eating carbs and salty foods like it was my job, so this time around I’d like to apply my method.
Fact!!! I have always said this, diet manages a lot of the water weight most people attribute to "wet" compounds. The SD, DMZ or DBol NEED carbs thing gets old. They don't but yes they definitely increase glycogen retention by a mile but that doesn't mean you have to have so many that you spill over if how you look is also important to you.
