First time running superdrol

[hairygrandpa]

Interesting. For just one more week?

Yes. My last sdrol cycle was 4 weeks at 20mg/d. Cramps was the worst side for me, sdrol dehydrated me bad. Found the cure using hyperhydration with glycerol (vegetable glycerin) and electrolytes. Will never go without glycerol in my shakes from now on.

 

[DennisC1986]

Yeah for me the worst is the lethargy. Around 4 in the afternoon I'm like ready to pass out

 

[Matthersby]

I don’t care if I’m at death’s door, I’m finishing week 4 of Superdrol.

 

[Mudveins]

So I made it through two weeks pretty much. Just feeling miserable. I know that when it comes to orals, more gains comes with more sides but I think right now I'd rather feel good. What would you guys do? Tough it out for another week? Or let my body recover a little bit and do like the last two weeks of my cycle to solidify gains? Again more interested in what you guys would do personally.

Are you running anything with it? I can’t remember.
I’d just drop it... which you know I did lol, dbol has me happy as can be... and thats how I want to feel on gear.
6 months down the road you won’t notice a difference between gains you made from sdrol or gains from something like dbol... so I would rather not feel like absolute **** for 4 weeks just to get comparable sustained gains.

 

[DennisC1986]

Yeah exactly. I said somewhere before, I started injecting test cause I wanna feel good and strong, not nauseous and ****ty. I dropped it, may pick it up for 2 weeks at the end of the cycle

 

[Mudveins]

Yeah exactly. I said somewhere before, I started injecting test cause I wanna feel good and strong, not nauseous and ****ty. I dropped it, may pick it up for 2 weeks at the end of the cycle

Try dbol, just make sure your diet is lean if you worry about bloat

 

[Chados]

Interesting how many people who feel **** on superdrol.. I literally don't feel anything else than with any other oral.. I actually know a girl who ran it 5mg a day recently which is quite a low dosage but women are women.. Huge gains though. If you feel like **** maybe it's better running something that gives close to as much gains and feels better..

 

[Matthersby]

That’s why I bought so much damn Dbol recently. Worth a little water weight, feel freaking fantastic on it

 

[Chados]

Is there really no one here who has taken NPP with SD?

Nope but tren sd. I think sd is an amazing compound and barely has any androgenic sides. Still it's quite a harsh cycle and I only did 200 mg tren.

 

[Matthersby]

Nope but tren sd. I think sd is an amazing compound and barely has any androgenic sides. Still it's quite a harsh cycle and I only did 200 mg tren.

Nope but with Trest it was unruly. Never seen anything like it. I imagine NPP would be quite similar ran high with low SD.

 

[Chados]

Nope but with Trest it was unruly. Never seen anything like it. I imagine NPP would be quite similar ran high with low SD.

As tren or trest?

 

[Nac]

Is there really no one here who has taken NPP with SD?

My next blast will be NPP/test/mast/boldCyp kicked with sdrol.

 

[Renew1]

Yeah exactly. I said somewhere before, I started injecting test cause I wanna feel good and strong, not nauseous and ****ty. I dropped it, may pick it up for 2 weeks at the end of the cycle

Dennis, do you know how much weight you put on while you were on SD?
It was two weeks, right?

 

[Matthersby]

2 weeks on SD is like cooking up a ribeye mid rare, getting it on the plate, and eating one-two bites, and tossing the rest in the garbage. It hurts my heart.

 

[Renew1]

2 weeks on SD is like cooking up a ribeye mid rare, getting it on the plate, and eating one-two bites, and tossing the rest in the garbage. It hurts my heart.

Me too, bro.
That third week is PRIME.

 

[Matthersby]

The back pumps alone make it a special kind of hell. I it

 

[MrKleen73]

2 weeks on SD is like cooking up a ribeye mid rare, getting it on the plate, and eating one-two bites, and tossing the rest in the garbage. It hurts my heart.

Well it is more like cutting the steak in half then cooking it and eating that half. Then cooking the 2nd half later. Nothing is getting wasted... There is no build up of SD in your system that carries over it is in and out with daily doses... just look at the effective half life. Anything above that is in your head. Now I agree it is more satisfying to see bigger gains all at once so I can see how longer cycles of it would be more satisfying but nothing is being lost breaking it into two smaller cycles.

Sure if gaining 4lbs a week the 3rd week appears to be better than week one or two. You will have gained 12 pounds since starting at that point and the gains will be WAY more obvious than they were in the 1st and 2nd week at 4, and 8 lbs gained... however it was accrued throughout the 3 weeks not in that 3rd week. It is just a threshhold of obviousness, not a point of increased returns. If you have 4 weeks worth of SD and gain 8 lbs in 2 weeks then 8 lbs in two weeks again later it is still 16lbs. Just like if you run for the whole 4 in a row it is still only going to give the same anabolism per mg of SD taken...

I just picked 4lbs for the example as it seems a pretty average amount to gain on SD in a week when composition is being considered. Not saying there is a specific amount to be gained from x amount of the compound as that is very individualized based on genetics.

 

[Matthersby]

Totally understood, but it always seems like after that third and forth rotation until cycle cessation seems to be where the real magic is. I don’t know why that is exactly. This is why I always will choose 5 week cycles over 2-3 if, for example pills are limited. Until diminishing returns happen, the oral cycle is really getting good once it’s almost over.

 

[Mudveins]

That’s why I bought so much damn Dbol recently. Worth a little water weight, feel freaking fantastic on it

Gonna be honest, on 40mg of dbol a day , on day 12 and no strength increase at all, and its a legit brand. Definitely look thicker, but 0 strength increase... wondering if my carbs are just too low... or 40mg is too little. Never had a diet strength issue before on gear though.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Gonna be honest, on 40mg of dbol a day , on day 12 and no strength increase at all, and its a legit brand. Definitely look thicker, but 0 strength increase... wondering if my carbs are just too low... or 40mg is too little. Never had a diet strength issue before on gear though.

Maybe you are just....weak?

 

[Mudveins]

Maybe you are just....weak?

Lol clever answer ... but my strength is the same as before the dbol. Still repping 315 bench for the same amount of reps as I was a month ago.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Lol clever answer ... but my strength is the same as before the dbol. Still repping 315 bench for the same amount of reps as I was a month ago.

Those sneaky bastards! Switched the fake weights for real ones in the gym!
Probably carbs too low. I would pop a cialis and take a glycerol/carb shake pre-workout -AND skip the pre workout stim (we want vasodilation).

 

[Mudveins]

Those sneaky bastards! Switched the fake weights for real ones in the gym!
Probably carbs too low. I would pop a cialis and take a glycerol/carb shake pre-workout -AND skip the pre workout stim (we want vasodilation).

Lol cialis in the gym? What?
I still haven’t gotten around to buying glycerin..$70 seems so expensive just to try it out lol
Also I don’t take preworkouts, stims. Only supps I take other than cycke supports are vegan protein, glutamine, taurine and green foods shake. I decided a few years back that if I needed stims to motivate my ass to get to the gym, then maybe bodybuilding isn’t for me.

 

[Mudveins]

Those sneaky bastards! Switched the fake weights for real ones in the gym!
Probably carbs too low. I would pop a cialis and take a glycerol/carb shake pre-workout -AND skip the pre workout stim (we want vasodilation).

Lol cialis in the gym? What?
I still haven’t gotten around to buying glycerin..$70 seems so expensive just to try it out lol
Also I don’t take preworkouts, stims. Only supps I take other than cycke supports are vegan protein, glutamine, taurine and green foods shake. I decided a few years back that if I needed stims to motivate my ass to get to the gym, then maybe bodybuilding isn’t for me.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Lol cialis in the gym? What?
I still haven’t gotten around to buying glycerin..$70 seems so expensive just to try it out lol
Also I don’t take preworkouts, stims. Only supps I take other than cycke supports are vegan protein, glutamine, taurine and green foods shake. I decided a few years back that if I needed stims to motivate my ass to get to the gym, then maybe bodybuilding isn’t for me.

Yes. Cialis in the gym -or viagra. Try 10mg cialis 2-3 hours before gym -or 50mg viagra 1 hour before. Make sure you have some "quick carbs" intra workout (think of coke, energy drink, sugar). Aim for a pump (hope you know to do it).The pump you will get is UNREAL ! PDE5 inhibitors are vasodilators.
Thank me later.

 

[hairygrandpa]

No idea why the gallon vegetable glycerin is so expensive in Canada (you are from Canada, right?). You need only a table spoon per 500ml of water/sugar/electrolyte mixture. It would be worth it anyway.

 

[christ83189]

Lol cialis in the gym? What?
I still haven’t gotten around to buying glycerin..$70 seems so expensive just to try it out lol
Also I don’t take preworkouts, stims. Only supps I take other than cycke supports are vegan protein, glutamine, taurine and green foods shake. I decided a few years back that if I needed stims to motivate my ass to get to the gym, then maybe bodybuilding isn’t for me.

I just noticed... Does your name on here come from mudvayne? Lol

 

[DemntedCowboy]

Lol cialis in the gym? What?
I still haven’t gotten around to buying glycerin..$70 seems so expensive just to try it out lol
Also I don’t take preworkouts, stims. Only supps I take other than cycke supports are vegan protein, glutamine, taurine and green foods shake. I decided a few years back that if I needed stims to motivate my ass to get to the gym, then maybe bodybuilding isn’t for me.

Hell yeah. I prefer Liquid Viagra but it works great

 

[hairygrandpa]

Lol cialis in the gym? What?
I still haven’t gotten around to buying glycerin..$70 seems so expensive just to try it out lol
Also I don’t take preworkouts, stims. Only supps I take other than cycke supports are vegan protein, glutamine, taurine and green foods shake. I decided a few years back that if I needed stims to motivate my ass to get to the gym, then maybe bodybuilding isn’t for me.

Wait. You are VEGAN ? Now I know why you live in Canada. Lots of vegetation up there....like trees and shrubs... :mischievous:

 

[Mudveins]

I just noticed... Does your name on here come from mudvayne? Lol

Lol at the time I made this account I was on a mudvayne binge

 

[christ83189]

Lol at the time I made this account I was on a mudvayne binge

Nice. I love mudvayne. I got to meet Chad Gray with Vinnie Paul backstage at a hellyeah concert. Was pretty awesome. Chad puts on a hell of a show

 

[Mudveins]

Wait. You are VEGAN ? Now I know why you live in Canada. Lots of vegetation up there....like trees and shrubs... :mischievous:

Lol no not vegan, stomach just can’t tolerate: eggs, milk, whey, or beef anymore, change happened 2 years ago and I’m apparently now allergic to it all. Basically got told I had to eliminate the things I ate the most. I miss plain Greek yougurt and whey protein

 

[hairygrandpa]

Lol no not vegan, stomach just can’t tolerate: eggs, milk, whey, or beef anymore, change happened 2 years ago and I’m apparently now allergic to it all. Basically got told I had to eliminate the things I ate the most. I miss plain Greek yougurt and whey protein

Ever tried Betaine HCL with every meal? Its basically stomach acid in capsule form. I too thought that I suddenly can't tolerate whey anymore, thing was, I couldn't digest it properly. Betaine did the trick, also got rid of heartburn that way.

 

[christ83189]

Lol no not vegan, stomach just can’t tolerate: eggs, milk, whey, or beef anymore, change happened 2 years ago and I’m apparently now allergic to it all. Basically got told I had to eliminate the things I ate the most. I miss plain Greek yougurt and whey protein

I would be a sad panda if i couldnt eat beef or eggs anymore

 

[Mudveins]

Ever tried Betaine HCL with every meal? Its basically stomach acid in capsule form. I too thought that I suddenly can't tolerate whey anymore, thing was, I couldn't digest it properly. Betaine did the trick, also got rid of heartburn that way.

I got a blood allergy test done, it said the anti bodies in my blood are allergic to it. Whey was the highest number on the list, my #1 to avoid lol

 

[hairygrandpa]

I got a blood allergy test done, it said the anti bodies in my blood are allergic to it. Whey was the highest number on the list, my #1 to avoid lol

I avoid medics for 50 years successfully. If I had your problem, I swear I would find at least a functional symptom suppression, long term -if not a cure.
I would probably:
1. enhance digestion by enzymes
-if a autoimmune disorder is confirmed (by ME -and Lab tests), I would :
2. Investigate immunomodulators, like: Levamisole

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7216893

Edit: I also would consider a fecal transplant

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4284325/

 

[DennisC1986]

Sorry I'm just seeing this now. I'd say I probably gained 5 to 7 pounds I. Those two weeks but. It just wasn't worth it. Like I've mentioned on here, I'm a recovering addict. I used to do stone Mason work in the 100 degree heat while withdrawing from heroin. So I'm no stranger to "pushing through" when I feel ****ty. But my appetite was non existant, I felt like total garbage, and I wasn't even getting the back pumps to really make me feel like the suffering was worth it. I'm gonna do two weeks of m1a at the end of my cycle instead I think. It's equally as harsh but I know the results will be there and I k ow I can handle it.

 

[Renew1]

Sorry I'm just seeing this now. I'd say I probably gained 5 to 7 pounds I. Those two weeks but. It just wasn't worth it. Like I've mentioned on here, I'm a recovering addict. I used to do stone Mason work in the 100 degree heat while withdrawing from heroin. So I'm no stranger to "pushing through" when I feel ****ty. But my appetite was non existant, I felt like total garbage, and I wasn't even getting the back pumps to really make me feel like the suffering was worth it. I'm gonna do two weeks of m1a at the end of my cycle instead I think. It's equally as harsh but I know the results will be there and I k ow I can handle it.

I understand brother. Everybody has to draw their own line.

 

[DennisC1986]

Thanks man. I'm sure if I had blown up like people say they do on SD, I may have toughed it out. Idk if it was the brand I used or the fact I wasn't eating enough but it just wasn't there

 

[MrKleen73]

Thanks man. I'm sure if I had blown up like people say they do on SD, I may have toughed it out. Idk if it was the brand I used or the fact I wasn't eating enough but it just wasn't there

Well if you weren't eating enough then 7lbs is pretty damn awesome in 2 weeks. However yeah the feeling is crap and I can't stand feeling like that. Once i get to where I don't want to eat I am officially miserable and it is not worth it to me at that point.

Also never heard of anyone wanting the back pumps. It took me multiple oral cycles to figure out how to get rid of them. They are part of the reason I try to stick to legit gear as i don't get near the issues with them.

 

[DennisC1986]

Haha yeah I mean. I definitely didn't WANT the back pumps. But I was questionable about using fusions methdrol and if I had gotten them at least I would know I'm getting what I'm supposed to be getting you know

 

[Matthersby]

Lol at the time I made this account I was on a mudvayne binge

I still think The End of All Things to Come is an absolute masterpiece...

 

[Matthersby]

My back pumps on SD were so bad, people would walk up and ask if I needed medical care.

 

[adammorrow36]

Yes. Cialis in the gym -or viagra. Try 10mg cialis 2-3 hours before gym -or 50mg viagra 1 hour before. Make sure you have some "quick carbs" intra workout (think of coke, energy drink, sugar). Aim for a pump (hope you know to do it).The pump you will get is UNREAL ! PDE5 inhibitors are vasodilators.
Thank me later.

50 mg ? Really ? I habe 25 mg pills and i slit them in half i did a full 25 mg once and itnwas way to much

 

[hairygrandpa]

50 mg ? Really ? I habe 25 mg pills and i slit them in half i did a full 25 mg once and itnwas way to much

You are right, dosage may vary from person to person.
How did you know it was "too much viagra"?

 

[DarkWarrior]

get a spare liver from china

 

[adammorrow36]

You are right, dosage may vary from person to person.
How did you know it was "too much viagra"?

Lol not what ur thinking it was like taking to much preworkout so i did only half of it and was great and then i started also adding in half of cialis. Ciagra lol and that was good too