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FINAFLEX 550-XD THE RESURRECTION OF TURNING GREEN (Sponsored LOG)

MrKleen73 said:
I think from our discussions he is only going to run DMZ for 4 weeks. With DMZ that will be plenty. Yeah this workout may result in some back pumps, make sure you load up on some taurine Green.
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Will do brotha. Everything is ready to go. Taurine, liver protection, and Clomiphene on hand. I will be taking 2-15mg caps per day...after bridging out of 550-XD.
 
For your bridge since the XD is nontoxic I would just recommend the last week of the XD starting your DMZ at 30mg a day. Hell to be honest you could run it at 15 and get good results. I ran DMZ at 20mg per day for 3.5 weeks and put on 15 lbs.
 
MrKleen73 said:
For your bridge since the XD is nontoxic I would just recommend the last week of the XD starting your DMZ at 30mg a day. Hell to be honest you could run it at 15 and get good results. I ran DMZ at 20mg per day for 3.5 weeks and put on 15 lbs.
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I was looking at cutting the XD to 2 caps per day with 15mg of DMZ the last week.

You saying keep 4 caps of XD with 15-30mg of DMZ? If so I will go that route. I may go 4 caps XD with 15mg DMZ then go to 30mg of DMZ post XD.
 
TurningGreen said:
I was looking at cutting the XD to 2 caps per day with 15mg of DMZ the last week.

You saying keep 4 caps of XD with 15-30mg of DMZ? If so I will go that route. I may go 4 caps XD with 15mg DMZ then go to 30mg of DMZ post XD.
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Yeah I would go with the second option. Of course to be honest the DMZ is an immediate hitter so if you wanted you could easily just start when complete with the XD. There is no real magic to having them overlap. With a PH like what you are used to there is conversion and all that mess that needs to happen so effects are not immediate. With DMZ it is a designer steroid already, there is no conversion, it begins working immediately. Hell by the end of the first week my legs had a 24 hour a day pump from it.
 
No, not really. Well it was not for me. I think more to the point the BS that everyone says about needing to feed it carbs is the source of the water weight for most people who use it. I see it all the time, You have to feed "DMZ or Superdrol" carbs. Just not the case, yes it really kicks up the Glut4 reaction in the muscle cells but glut4 pulls in all nutrients not just carbs. Yes if you rely on carbs for energy and have some the resulting insulin spike can make you feel lethargic but if you are using / burning fat as the main source of your energy that simply does not happen.
 
MrKleen73 said:
No, not really. Well it was not for me. I think more to the point the BS that everyone says about needing to feed it carbs is the source of the water weight for most people who use it. I see it all the time, You have to feed "DMZ or Superdrol" carbs. Just not the case, yes it really kicks up the Glut4 reaction in the muscle cells but glut4 pulls in all nutrients not just carbs. Yes if you rely on carbs for energy and have some the resulting insulin spike can make you feel lethargic but if you are using / burning fat as the main source of your energy that simply does not happen.
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All my research states DMZ is a dry compound.
 
It is.
 
DreamWeaver said:
DMZ after 5/6 weeks of this, might be a tad harsh no...
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He will be fine for a light DMZ run for 4 weeks, I just need to find our if he's doing 30 or 45mg a day.

Also DMZ is a dry compound will also give a nice harder rip look to and good size and strength, DMZ is a lot better overall then a SD unless you want pure size lol.
 
@turninggreen

I would drop the XD and then start DMZ by itself at 30/30/45/45 or 30/45/45/45 only reason to run at 30mg is to assist in side and see how gains are going if you want more then up the does to 45 or stay and 30 :) for back pumps lots of water and potassium should get rid of the back pumps if not load up on the taurine .
 
MrMarc said:
@turninggreen

I would drop the XD and then start DMZ by itself at 30/30/45/45 or 30/45/45/45 only reason to run at 30mg is to assist in side and see how gains are going if you want more then up the does to 45 or stay and 30 :) for back pumps lots of water and potassium should get rid of the back pumps if not load up on the taurine .
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Thanks for the insight bro! Much appreciated.
 
My sides were bad enough at 20mg that I ended my run early, Oufinny ran it at 45 for a little bit and lowered it back down to 30 because he hated how he felt. If you can gain 15 lbs in just over 3 weeks off of 20mg why risk all the extra sides going at 45. I would stay away from 45mg if I were you Green but that is just me.

Think of it this way at a dose of 45 you are getting 22.5mg of Superdrol and 22.5 of the slightly milder steroid that one of the superdrol molecules ends up being because it has the dymethyl bond still attached. It is definitely up to you green, who knows you could be one of those guys who hardly ever gets a side effect. Sounds like MrMarc is one of the lucky ones that doesn't get too many sides.
 
MrKleen73 said:
My sides were bad enough at 20mg that I ended my run early, Oufinny ran it at 45 for a little bit and lowered it back down to 30 because he hated how he felt. If you can gain 15 lbs in just over 3 weeks off of 20mg why risk all the extra sides going at 45. I would stay away from 45mg if I were you Green but that is just me.

Think of it this way at a dose of 45 you are getting 22.5mg of Superdrol and 22.5 of the slightly milder steroid that one of the superdrol molecules ends up being because it has the dymethyl bond still attached. It is definitely up to you green, who knows you could be one of those guys who hardly ever gets a side effect. Sounds like MrMarc is one of the lucky ones that doesn't get too many sides.
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Definitely planning on starting lower and increasing if necessary. I have no interest in going above 30mg until I can asses my results. I do appreciate all the insight from everybody on this matter.
 
I am so tempted to go get me some Havoc or something so I can get a boost in size to match what you and LTL are going to be growing while cutting up. I just don't like the methyls much.
 
MrKleen73 said:
I am so tempted to go get me some Havoc or something so I can get a boost in size to match what you and LTL are going to be growing while cutting up. I just don't like the methyls much.
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Hmm helladrol would be good!
 
MrMarc said:
Hmm helladrol would be good!
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That is actually one I was really considering. It is mild enough to keep the sides at bay but strong enough to give this run some more kick.
 
MrKleen73 said:
That is actually one I was really considering. It is mild enough to keep the sides at bay but strong enough to give this run some more kick.
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It's prefect IMO but only thing is its going to need to be a 6 week run.. We're they'll will only need 4 haa. Give me some time to think and I'll figure out a non metly way for you.
 
MrKleen73 said:
That is actually one I was really considering. It is mild enough to keep the sides at bay but strong enough to give this run some more kick.
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hdrol would be a terrible idea kleen.... :-)
 
MrKleen73 said:
My sides were bad enough at 20mg that I ended my run early, Oufinny ran it at 45 for a little bit and lowered it back down to 30 because he hated how he felt. If you can gain 15 lbs in just over 3 weeks off of 20mg why risk all the extra sides going at 45. I would stay away from 45mg if I were you Green but that is just me.

Think of it this way at a dose of 45 you are getting 22.5mg of Superdrol and 22.5 of the slightly milder steroid that one of the superdrol molecules ends up being because it has the dymethyl bond still attached. It is definitely up to you green, who knows you could be one of those guys who hardly ever gets a side effect. Sounds like MrMarc is one of the lucky ones that doesn't get too many sides.
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I agree with this ^^^ When I took DMZ, I had great results with 20g/day for 45 days... and Green, you are an easy gainer like me!!!
 
I'm running 20mg of a dmz clone I'm on day 13, have not seen much maybe 3 or 4lbs.

I debated on stopping @ 30 days though.
 
Day 31

No changes to supplementation. About to run out of BCAAs...nooooo! I am experiencing some soreness from yesterday's hyperfit training, but damn it feels good. Looking forward to bridging over into DMZ and taking names in our competition. Today was a burn day and I got in an hour of steady state cardio at the gym.

Tomorrow will most likely be an off day as we have a another gig. I will probably eat like a burn day and hit hyperfit again on Saturday eating for build.

Training

Spin Bike:30 minutes @ light resistance

Tread Mill: 15 minute jog @ 4.6mph/ 5 minute walk @ 3.5mph/ 10 minute jog @ 4.6mph

Nutrition

Calories 1,842
Fat: 66.8g (33%)
Carbohydrate: 68.8g (15%)
Protein: 235.1g (52%)
 
TurningGreen said:
Day 31

No changes to supplementation. About to run out of BCAAs...nooooo! I am experiencing some soreness from yesterday's hyperfit training, but damn it feels good. Looking forward to bridging over into DMZ and taking names in our competition. Today was a burn day and I got in an hour of steady state cardio at the gym.

Tomorrow will most likely be an off day as we have a another gig. I will probably eat like a burn day and hit hyperfit again on Saturday eating for build.

Training

Spin Bike:30 minutes @ light resistance

Tread Mill: 15 minute jog @ 4.6mph/ 5 minute walk @ 3.5mph/ 10 minute jog @ 4.6mph

Nutrition

Calories 1,842
Fat: 66.8g (33%)
Carbohydrate: 68.8g (15%)
Protein: 235.1g (52%)
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Damn man that's a lot of cardio with little calories i'd be a zombie! Awesome work dude looks like the guys better stay on top of their game!

Starting my own log to get lean!

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TurningGreen said:
Day 31

No changes to supplementation. About to run out of BCAAs...nooooo! I am experiencing some soreness from yesterday's hyperfit training, but damn it feels good. Looking forward to bridging over into DMZ and taking names in our competition. Today was a burn day and I got in an hour of steady state cardio at the gym.

Tomorrow will most likely be an off day as we have a another gig. I will probably eat like a burn day and hit hyperfit again on Saturday eating for build.

Training

Spin Bike:30 minutes @ light resistance

Tread Mill: 15 minute jog @ 4.6mph/ 5 minute walk @ 3.5mph/ 10 minute jog @ 4.6mph

Nutrition

Calories 1,842
Fat: 66.8g (33%)
Carbohydrate: 68.8g (15%)
Protein: 235.1g (52%)
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oh man!! BCAAs love um. So vital. Don't run out man! haha Get some recover pro!

I like the hyperfit routine layout. I have to adjust for my home gym, but I think I will be doing something like it soon. :D
 
Oh most def have to have my BCAA's. I don't care if it's pill powder liquid so long as I get me sum haha. I always feel better when sticking to them.
 
Day 32

Ordered up my BCAAs and some other goodies. We had a gig last night and it was fugging awesome. The crowd was so into the music...unbelievable. I ate most of may calories at my fast breaker because I knew I would have time to eat later.

As for training...I didn't go to the gym, but the half hour set we played was probably more than enough. I don't recall a dry area to be found ony shirt...not to mention it was about 90 degrees in the place venue.

As for 550-XD...I do not think the recomp properties have ceased. I am starting to get comments and people are seeing changes. One of the dudes in my band was like...dude you are way leaner than you were last week wtf hahaha!
 
TurningGreen said:
Day 32

Ordered up my BCAAs and some other goodies. We had a gig last night and it was fugging awesome. The crowd was so into the music...unbelievable. I ate most of may calories at my fast breaker because I knew I would have time to eat later.

As for training...I didn't go to the gym, but the half hour set we played was probably more than enough. I don't recall a dry area to be found ony shirt...not to mention it was about 90 degrees in the place venue.

As for 550-XD...I do not think the recomp properties have ceased. I am starting to get comments and people are seeing changes. One of the dudes in my band was like...dude you are way leaner than you were last week wtf hahaha!
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Gotta love that positive feedback!
 
TurningGreen said:
Day 32

Ordered up my BCAAs and some other goodies. We had a gig last night and it was fugging awesome. The crowd was so into the music...unbelievable. I ate most of may calories at my fast breaker because I knew I would have time to eat later.

As for training...I didn't go to the gym, but the half hour set we played was probably more than enough. I don't recall a dry area to be found ony shirt...not to mention it was about 90 degrees in the place venue.

As for 550-XD...I do not think the recomp properties have ceased. I am starting to get comments and people are seeing changes. One of the dudes in my band was like...dude you are way leaner than you were last week wtf hahaha!
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awesome news on the gig! and the recomp. Glad it's going awesome!
 
Awesome comp and congrats on the gig!! Gota send some vids for use to download!! Get us Pumped to kill the weights. Bro check your pm I'm in heaven right now.

TurningGreen said:
Day 32

Ordered up my BCAAs and some other goodies. We had a gig last night and it was fugging awesome. The crowd was so into the music...unbelievable. I ate most of may calories at my fast breaker because I knew I would have time to eat later.

As for training...I didn't go to the gym, but the half hour set we played was probably more than enough. I don't recall a dry area to be found ony shirt...not to mention it was about 90 degrees in the place venue.

As for 550-XD...I do not think the recomp properties have ceased. I am starting to get comments and people are seeing changes. One of the dudes in my band was like...dude you are way leaner than you were last week wtf hahaha!
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Start of the log you were at 19.6% bf, have you checked it recently?

(sorry if I missed it, this log is thick)
 
I will get yesterdays update up soon. AM was down yesterday. Weight is 217 BF% is 12. Looks like things are slowing down here planning to add DMZ at 15mg on Friday.
 
WooHoo! I am hoping my EPIVAR shows up this week so I can hit that ish up. Your pics look good though Green, I am surprised at only a .2 bf loss, this is why everyone says calipers can be tricky too. Taking the pinch even 1 inch away from the place you took it last time can add a mm or two and that is enough to change the body fat measurement substantially.
 
MrKleen73 said:
WooHoo! I am hoping my EPIVAR shows up this week so I can hit that ish up. Your pics look good though Green, I am surprised at only a .2 bf loss, this is why everyone says calipers can be tricky too. Taking the pinch even 1 inch away from the place you took it last time can add a mm or two and that is enough to change the body fat measurement substantially.
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I think it's mainly a calorie deal. This is the first time I've ever gone this high calories wise so the whole 550-XD cycle was almost like a clean bulk/recomp. I think the calorie slash the DMZ and the new training protocol will dramaticly alter the way things are progressing. It's time to strip it all off!
 
MrKleen73 said:
WooHoo! I am hoping my EPIVAR shows up this week so I can hit that ish up. Your pics look good though Green, I am surprised at only a .2 bf loss, this is why everyone says calipers can be tricky too. Taking the pinch even 1 inch away from the place you took it last time can add a mm or two and that is enough to change the body fat measurement substantially.
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I have Epistrong in my cupboard :) Also 2 bottles of Trenazone ... which have already been opened :)
 
Holy fug Epivar, Brawn, Havoc.. lots of goodies out there. Here me all smug with my measly bottle of Epi-Strong..
 
Oh yeah they have it all! Well a lot is sold out, you gotta catch the DS quick. Once in stock stuff flies off the shelves.
 
Day 33

Nothing has changed with supplementation. Weight is 217 BF% is 12%

Training

I used (with permission) MrKleen's Dumbell Set Protocol.

3 rotations with 20 reps per lift taking no more than 30 seconds rest between lifts.

DB Dead Lift- 30lb
DB Flat Bench- 30lb
DB Squat- 30lb
DB Bent Over Row- 30lb
DB Romanian Dead Lift- 25lb
DB Shrug- 25lb
DB Arnold Press- 15lb
DB Single Leg Squat (20 each leg)- 15lb
DB Drag Curl- 15lb

Nutrition

Calories 1,798
Fat:45.8g (23%)
Carbohydrate:124.7g (28%)
Protein:212g (48%)
 
Day 34

Nothing has changed with supplementation. I was planning on adding DMZ into the mix tomorrow, but I am certain I will be hearing from the Fire Department I applied to and in no way do I want to throw my chances of being a successful candidate out the window. I have a few more days of 550-XD left and it looks like I will be moving into PCT. I will still be participating in the competition...but with out any PHs...this will probably spell defeat for me, but I will still do my best.

Training

A.M.
Treadmill- 1 hour at varied speeds and elevations.

P.M.
Light 10 min jog outside and abs

Decline medicine ball catch/sit-up/throw @ 15lb 3x15

Incline Reverse Crunch @ BW 3x20

Serratus Dip @ BW 3x15

Floor Sweepers @ 95lb 3x10 (each side)

Turkish Get-up @ 45lb (bar) 3x3 (each side)


Nutrition

Calories 1,833
Fat:72g (36%)
Carbohydrate:97.1g (21%)
Protein:195.4g (43%)
 
Ah. Yea I hear they test for the goodies.
Hopefully you get in bro. A buddy of mine at the gym was in waiting list for like a year...
He was in mad shape though training for it lol.
 
Good luck with the fire department man! You can still get the comp all natty! :-)
 
LiveToLift said:
Good luck with the fire department man! You can still get the comp all natty! :-)
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Yup. I believe man!
I'm battling flex and he's on a load of goodies. I'm using albuterol and anabeta ;)
If I win it'll be amazing. But I think we are both big enough to not lose too much muscle while destroying fat.
 
TurningGreen!!! Nice very nice workout on the db's man. Also what ever you say bro don't and I mean don't ever say the words defeat. Take that sorry a$$ word out of your vocab. You just keeping beasting it like you do and you will get there brother.
 
Day 34

Nothing has changed with supplementation. I am already seeing a difference in body composition with the changes I have made in my caloric intake. I finally got some BCAAs back into the mix (bulk modern grapple) I was pretty surprised with the quality of this product. The taste I would give a solid 8 and the solubility I would give a 9.5 (I use room temp water). Besides the addition of the BCAAs I am still considering the DMZ as I got some new information pertaining to its usage. Also I will be adding in some Liv. 52 liver detox and Taurine pending my decision on DMZ. The DMZ will be no longer than a 4 week cycle at 15-30mg.

Training

20 reps per lift taking no more than 30 seconds rest between lifts repeat for 3 rotations.

DB Squat- 30lb
DB incline Bench- 30lb
DB Front Squat- 30lb
DB One Arm Row- 30lb
DB Romanian Dead Lift- 30lb
DB Overhead Press- 20lb
DB Step Up (20 each leg)- 20lb
DB Side Row- 20lb
DB Bench Dip- 30lb

Broke a good sweat here and also worked the abs 3 sets and 20 reps each with no rest between...

Stability Ball Crunch with Med. Ball @ 10lb
Hands Behind Head Stability Ball Crunch
Med. Ball Twist on Stability Ball @ 10lb

Elliptical 20 Minutes @ low resistance

Nutrition

Calories 2,498
Fat:58.9g (19%)
Carbohydrate:214.4g (35%)
Protein:203.7g (46%)
 
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