***FEEDBACK on The ONE***
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crowpass
Active member
I did legs along with shoulders today... i took yesterday off and today was actually the first time for legs and second time for my back to be worked. ... i noticed a change in strength, i squated 275 for 10 reps today on my fourth set and still had enough energy to do a set of widowmakers with 135 (im small and I like to think of these number as pretty damn good), after that i went to the leg press machine and got 500 for 10 reps on the 3rd set with a set of widowmakers at 320lbs. Endurance was unreal. for back i did 5x10 behind the neck pullups abruptly followed by 4x10 at 190 (PR) at the cable row machine. I didnt push the weights to the extreme today but i got all this done in about 30 to 40 minutes. I think that should speak for itself. I noticed the strength and endurance today, immediatley went home and passed out for about 30 minutes, woke up and cleaned my place up.
nopeace
Member
PM me....
1HP
Well-known member
2 weeks on the one here.
Up 8 lbs.
I did 1 week at maintenance cals and no weight gain, lost a little fat, vascularity, energy and workout intensity up.
Did another week at 1000-1500 cals above maintenance and gained 8 lbs.
Had I stayed at maintenance cals I wouldve called it a weak ph
Edit: It's eradicating my PP 1T induced gyno!! (stacking it with ralox though).
Up 8 lbs.
I did 1 week at maintenance cals and no weight gain, lost a little fat, vascularity, energy and workout intensity up.
Did another week at 1000-1500 cals above maintenance and gained 8 lbs.
Had I stayed at maintenance cals I wouldve called it a weak ph
Edit: It's eradicating my PP 1T induced gyno!! (stacking it with ralox though).
donorrell
Board Sponsor
First, I appreciate your input, and your overall opinion of our company. We work extremely hard at putting out top-notch products.
Now, if you think that was bashing, you're being a bit too sensitive. If you can't handle a little sarcasm, you may be taking yourself and these forums too seriously. It was intended as a light hearted comment that used our tagline in context. That's it.
If I may digress for a moment, this is a perfect example of what's wrong with this whole goddamn country today...it's called "The Pussification of America." Everyone needs grow thicker skin and stop being so fuc*ing offended all the time. Political correctness my ass! We need to get back to spanking our kids when they screw up so they learn to be accountable. We need to stop giving out trophies for "participating" and only give them out for winning. If we as a country don't reverse our mamby-pamby coddling of the loudest whiner and end our limitless sense of entitlement, China will own us and we'll all be using chopsticks and dinnertime and have a big picture of Mao on our livingroom walls.
:soapbox:
OK, back on topic...
Clearly the dozens of other loggers have experienced gains that meet or exceed the claims we have made for this product. Many are not first-time PH users. I personally have years of experience with anabolics and responded tremendously - but I had not taken any other hormonal products for quite some time.
HOWEVER...to be 100% fair and balanced you may be on to something if you are taking The One immediately following a previous cycle of some other PH / AAS. If so, the weight gains will most likely not be nearly as pronounced. A few guys I know are taking The One immediately following strong androgens, and have reported minimal weight gain but have experienced continued strength gains accompanied by significant fat loss and hardening.
Hopefully I haven't offended you further...if not, maybe there's hope for us all. If I have, feel free to tell me so...I can take it.
Respectfully,
Don Orrell
Gator Alum 03
Member
That's interesting. I also ran PP's 1-T and I saw absolutely nothing from it. No gains whatsoever. I've run Epi and Superdrol previously.
I'm on day 8 of The One and I'm up 8 lbs. I couldn't be more pleased.
dmichael949
New member
u mean u got lumps from The One?
1HP
Well-known member
No he had lumps before starting the one that went away because of using the one.
Same experience as me.
Must be the same mechanics as why users report gyno going away on proviron and masteron.
1HP
Well-known member
Reversing gyno is not easily done.. The one does a better job at it then toremifene\raloxifene\atd at whatever dosages for me..
1HP
Well-known member
I have no idea on how it works vs prolactin induced gyno (the leaker), I would guess it to be more effective vs estro induced gyno.
nopeace
Member
How is anyone gonna know if you're being sarcastic? I figured you were just covering for your product. Well, I'm glad you can handle typed criticism.
I'm finishing my bottle up and seeing what happens this week.
donorrell
Board Sponsor
Fair enough...hatchet buried, rant over.
I am curious though...were you taking any other hormonals prior to The One?
Dragon13
Active member
2 weeks on the one here.
Up 8 lbs.
I did 1 week at maintenance cals and no weight gain, lost a little fat, vascularity, energy and workout intensity up.
Did another week at 1000-1500 cals above maintenance and gained 8 lbs.
Had I stayed at maintenance cals I wouldve called it a weak ph
Edit: It's eradicating my PP 1T induced gyno!! (stacking it with ralox though).
Whoh - so you did actually end up getting gyno from the 1-T??? How bad, if I may ask?
With the itchy nips, I think I was on the verge of it until I threw in Reversitol. But I am prone to it, I believe.
nopeace
Member
1-t from PP.
To be fair I just feel like it hasn't really improved much based on what I paid for it.
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
CrownRoyal
CrownRoyal: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/119391-my-first-ph.html
CrownRoyal: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/119391-my-first-ph.html
First Week Review:
Diet - My calories have been from 3700-4200 calories, which is around 800-1000calories more than I've been taking in the past few months.
Training - specifics re time/exercises/sets/reps/recovery/weight, etc.
Body composition and Look - I believe I look a bit wider/filled out, but I have only gained 4lbs, so I don't know exactly how much of it is noticeable.
Muscle Hardness - I believe my muscle hardness has increased a bit, I haven't noticed much, but again, this is only the first week.
Vascularity - I am definitely feeling some pretty strong pumps, which a bit of increased vascularity has come along with. Nothing TOO insane, but I do notice a difference.
Strength - Strength is probably what I have noticed the most. In my first week back into 'bodybuilding' I am not too far off from the numbers I was hitting my last season after more than a month of training (in some lifts). Although my chest/legs still need to play catchup, but I'm not worried about it. I'm excited to see how the 2nd week plays out.
Speed - I haven't really noticed anything in this area, but then again, I haven't been running, so I can't really judge whether or not my speed has increased.
Co-ordination - For co-ordination, I haven't noticed much. I mean, I'm not playing any sports or anything to really test this; my lifting form feels on, I don't really know what else to say as far as co-ordination.
Quality of Training - The quality of my training feels spot on, I've been feeling great during reps/sets, I feel like I'm really blasting my muscle groups.
Mood/Aggression - My mood seems to be a bit more focused, I can easily control my emotions and I haven't felt 'down & out' at all while on 'the one.' Also, it appears I can get pissed a bit easier during lifting, which is always a good thing.
Libido - My libido has been up there for sure; I'm like a walking horndog, haha. I don't mind it
Joints - My joints have been feeling fine; I am taking super cissus, so I am assuming that it is helping my joints.
Overall Sense of Feeling (to include mention of any shut-down or sides) - My overall sense of feeling while on 'the one' has been great. I've been feeling great about myself, lifting, etc. I haven't noticed any shut-down or sides really, but I do have a few more pimples on my face in random areas. At first I thought I was having trouble 'getting off' but I think it might just be anxiety from taking the prohormone, i.e. being scared of shutdown, losing my ability to 'get off,' etc etc.. I haven't really noticed anything else. I am kind of bummed that I haven't noticed anymore gains, but again, this is only the first week. I hope my gains reach new levels this 2nd week. Wish me luck.
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
1HP
Well-known member
Yeah, really sucked *ss, painfull puffy nips, lump under the right one, also more fatmass on right side, very ugly to see, especially the difference between left and right, started after 5 days PP 1T. ~6 weeks of toremifene/atd reduced puffyness and pain, but lump still there and puffyness returns at some parts of the day, especially late afternoon/evening. Switched to raloxifene/andactrim(topical DHT) for 2 weeks, allowed me to quit the ATD which didnt make me feel to good. So decided to try The One as a masteron/proviron alternative (both of which I cannot get at decent prices) and puffyness is gone 95%, lump has decreased significantly, fatmass difference between left and right pec almost not noticable anymore, still taking raloxifene alongside The One so dont know how it would do solo, but I'm very very happy I can tell you..
dedlifter1
Well-known member
I dont usually dole out accolades, but i will say this. I ran super. i ran m-drol, i ran epi. this is better imo. i am up 7 pounds now in 14 days, at 4 caps, and leaner and stronger. This has had such an effect on me, i am about to reach 225, a weight that has eluded me in the past. im stronger. new pr's on everything. I feel, full, rock hard ALL the time. I was not impressed with mdrol, after having taken this compound.
dedlifter1
Well-known member
DRY GAINS ARE WHERE IT IS AT.
OzzY SluGGa
Banned
Iron Lungz
Banned
donorrell
Board Sponsor
Cool. What day are you on now? How many left?
donorrell
Board Sponsor
It's the stuff of nightmares. You can have a phenomenal physique, but all they'll see is those damn swollen nipples...
Due to the inherent AI / anti-estrogen properties, it appears to work a lot like Proviron in the context of treating gyno...but from an anabolic point of view it's far stronger...hardly even comparable in that aspect. We seem to be hearing a lot of similar feedback on this. All good to me!
1HP
Well-known member
You are understanding me correctly, I cannot imagine you developing man boobs ON cycle
However there's always the POST cyle rebound risk I have no idea about how it's gonna turn out on this.nopeace
Member
about two weeks left. Starting to gain some.
I was so happy with my gains...Young One
Member
Good to know I'm not the only one.
If I can at least get 15pounds out of this I'll be a happy dude.
EasyEJL
Never enough
you should be able to. Seems like healthy fats lead to higher gains, so try to make sure you hit in the 80+g of fats, as healthy as you can. more is fine, but i'm noticing a few trends in mass gains vs fatloss.
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
ksujosh6
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Day 15 weight - 182 lbs
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OzzY SluGGa
Banned
You are understanding me correctly, I cannot imagine you developing man boobs ON cycle
yeah, but for how long after do you need to worry bout it? weeks/months? how do you know when your "out of the woods" boys?:burnout:
If I finish my 4 week PCT and they are not there am I in the clear?
OzzY SluGGa
Banned
Well I hope so easy! Id rather have no build at all than a great build with man boobs.:scared:
EasyEJL
Never enough
Yeah, no doubt. Theres a really good post by mulletsoldier about gyno somewhere or another. Too many guys find a nipple itch or some chest fat and are screaming "gyno". But it is always a risk. I think most of the guys who get it had a little gyno in puberty and just never noticed it, and the hormonal fluctuations of a cycle cause it to bloomOzzY SluGGa
Banned
Should I expect SOME nipple itch, soreness etc Easy? When do I actually need to hit the panic switch?
EasyEJL
Never enough
its so individual its hard to say, as I think a lot is based around your normal levels of test/estrogen. i'd guess that itchiness that just lasts for a day or two is likely to not be a big deal, pain would likely be a big deal but then remember not to be constantly playing with them out of paranoia, or you'll have them hurting Also try and be aware of other changes if any like a new laundry detergent or using a different suntan lotion. Either of those can spike some itchiness too
Also try and be aware of other changes if any like a new laundry detergent or using a different suntan lotion. Either of those can spike some itchiness too
Thanos
Member
No log. Started at 226 up to 234 and have become much leaner. I wish i would have done a Bod Pod or something for the real numbers. Freeking all veiny too which is always fun. The more calories i put to this the better it keeps getting. I had a few low cal days where the scale weight held the same but i kept looking fuller.
Thanos
Member
Agree!
Thanos
Member
2 weeks on the one here.
Up 8 lbs.
I did 1 week at maintenance cals and no weight gain, lost a little fat, vascularity, energy and workout intensity up.
Did another week at 1000-1500 cals above maintenance and gained 8 lbs.
Had I stayed at maintenance cals I wouldve called it a weak ph
Edit: It's eradicating my PP 1T induced gyno!! (stacking it with ralox though).
Calories seem to be key, they were for me. As my weight went up I didnt adjust the calories and scale weight gains slowed, added calories and boom. The additional calories had no ill effects still kept getting harder looking.