Favorite Bible Quotes
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BUCKNUTS
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you are either ignorant or resentful/hateful of God. Either way why is it necessary to come into a thread lie this with the sole intent of instigating? Are you bored or just a complete douche bag? or perhaps both?
Orangatang
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He's a troll.
BUCKNUTS
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I respect everybody's right to their own opinion but this type of thread isn't about opinion or debate and I can't understand why, if you truly do not believe, do you not just move on to another thread. IMO opinion it's not a problem intellectually but rather it's a spiritual problem(see his avatar) I should have just let it be that is exactly the sort of response these types are seeking. I have many favorite verses including these.
1 Peter 5 6&7(New King James Version)
6 Therefore humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you in due time, 7 casting all your care upon Him, for He cares for you.
I am not always humble but I want to be and the notion that God creator of the universe cares about my stress level blows my mind.
omni
Active member
People always ask why God allows so much suffering. The truth is that he always has, and has been behind it. I believe in God but I don't sugar coat it. I accept God and all of his qualities-most people don't want to think of anything but a peaceful god. The old testament shows a little more about his personality than love, turn the other cheek and forgiveness. He was the god of Armies. Most people don't know the depth of the God they worship. The topic is Favorite Bible Quotes. The scriptures I quote are in your bible and shouldn't offend anyone. Its history and God allowed it. I haven't twisted or lied about anything, just quoted some of my favorite scriptures.
Matthew 10:34-36
34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn
“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
Matthew 10:34-36
34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn
“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
BUCKNUTS
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Proverbs 19:22 (King James Version)
22The desire of a man is his kindness: and a poor man is better than a liar.
Proverbs 12:22 (King James Version)
22Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight.
omni
Active member
Lying??? Where??
schwellington
Well-known member
As for the verse about women- if you are reading scipture YOU MUST READ IT IN CONTEXT
to take a verse and read it out of context can distort its intended meaning
Trust in The Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding- my fav verse
to take a verse and read it out of context can distort its intended meaning
Trust in The Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding- my fav verse
BUCKNUTS
Board Supporter
This. You did not simply quote a scripture you qualified each and every one with a snarky comment designed(by you) to instigate. Your contention that you were merely quoting scripture is a falsehood. I apologize to the OP for derailing the thread. I was not wise enough to not bite even though I knew I was being baited. God bless you all and good night.
omni
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Were women raped by God's people or not?(entire context)
Judges 21:1-24
1 The men of Israel had taken an oath at Mizpah: “Not one of us will give his daughter in marriage to a Benjamite.”
2 The people went to Bethel,[a] where they sat before God until evening, raising their voices and weeping bitterly. 3 “LORD, God of Israel,” they cried, “why has this happened to Israel? Why should one tribe be missing from Israel today?”
4 Early the next day the people built an altar and presented burnt offerings and fellowship offerings.
5 Then the Israelites asked, “Who from all the tribes of Israel has failed to assemble before the LORD?” For they had taken a solemn oath that anyone who failed to assemble before the LORD at Mizpah was to be put to death.
6 Now the Israelites grieved for the tribe of Benjamin, their fellow Israelites. “Today one tribe is cut off from Israel,” they said. 7 “How can we provide wives for those who are left, since we have taken an oath by the LORD not to give them any of our daughters in marriage?” 8 Then they asked, “Which one of the tribes of Israel failed to assemble before the LORD at Mizpah?” They discovered that no one from Jabesh Gilead had come to the camp for the assembly. 9 For when they counted the people, they found that none of the people of Jabesh Gilead were there.
10 So the assembly sent twelve thousand fighting men with instructions to go to Jabesh Gilead and put to the sword those living there, including the women and children. 11 “This is what you are to do,” they said. “Kill every male and every woman who is not a virgin.” 12 They found among the people living in Jabesh Gilead four hundred young women who had never slept with a man, and they took them to the camp at Shiloh in Canaan.
13 Then the whole assembly sent an offer of peace to the Benjamites at the rock of Rimmon. 14 So the Benjamites returned at that time and were given the women of Jabesh Gilead who had been spared. But there were not enough for all of them.
15 The people grieved for Benjamin, because the LORD had made a gap in the tribes of Israel. 16 And the elders of the assembly said, “With the women of Benjamin destroyed, how shall we provide wives for the men who are left? 17 The Benjamite survivors must have heirs,” they said, “so that a tribe of Israel will not be wiped out. 18 We can’t give them our daughters as wives, since we Israelites have taken this oath: ‘Cursed be anyone who gives a wife to a Benjamite.’ 19 But look, there is the annual festival of the LORD in Shiloh, which lies north of Bethel, east of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem, and south of Lebonah.”
20 So they instructed the Benjamites, saying, “Go and hide in the vineyards 21 and watch. When the young women of Shiloh come out to join in the dancing, rush from the vineyards and each of you seize one of them to be your wife. Then return to the land of Benjamin. 22 When their fathers or brothers complain to us, we will say to them, ‘Do us the favor of helping them, because we did not get wives for them during the war. You will not be guilty of breaking your oath because you did not give your daughters to them.’”
23 So that is what the Benjamites did. While the young women were dancing, each man caught one and carried her off to be his wife. Then they returned to their inheritance and rebuilt the towns and settled in them.
24 At that time the Israelites left that place and went home to their tribes and clans, each to his own inheritance.
B5150
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My God is a jealous God, expecting our obedience and worship. I don't know who you think you are talking to, as well verse Christians know very well the just vengeance and wrath that He has cast upon the disobedient.
Is your favorite quotes about the rape of woman and the keeping of slaves? What exactly is your point with the antagonistic attitude?
These are no secrets and you are not unveiling some hidden truth.
Judges 10:6-16
6 Again the Israelites did evil in the eyes of the LORD. They served the Baals and the Ashtoreths, and the gods of Aram, the gods of Sidon, the gods of Moab, the gods of the Ammonites and the gods of the Philistines. And because the Israelites forsook the LORD and no longer served him, 7 he became angry with them. He sold them into the hands of the Philistines and the Ammonites, 8 who that year shattered and crushed them. For eighteen years they oppressed all the Israelites on the east side of the Jordan in Gilead, the land of the Amorites. 9 The Ammonites also crossed the Jordan to fight against Judah, Benjamin and Ephraim; Israel was in great distress. 10 Then the Israelites cried out to the LORD, “We have sinned against you, forsaking our God and serving the Baals.”
11 The LORD replied, “When the Egyptians, the Amorites, the Ammonites, the Philistines, 12 the Sidonians, the Amalekites and the Maonites[c] oppressed you and you cried to me for help, did I not save you from their hands? 13 But you have forsaken me and served other gods, so I will no longer save you. 14 Go and cry out to the gods you have chosen. Let them save you when you are in trouble!”
15 But the Israelites said to the LORD, “We have sinned. Do with us whatever you think best, but please rescue us now.” 16 Then they got rid of the foreign gods among them and served the LORD. And he could bear Israel’s misery no longer.
kvothe
Member
there are odd things in the Bible when looked at outside of the whole and looking at something as big as the Bible as a whole is a tough task. It is difficult to justify pain, suffering, wars, etc and to think also that God is still in control and allowing it to happen. It can be frustrating when these things hit home personally, and you wonder why, I have been good, I have been faithful, and you see others who may not be seeming to prosper. doubts rise, anger, frustration, confusion, I dont know if others have gone through this, but I have.
A few things I have tried to keep in mind are that Gods priority first and foremost is that we get to Heaven, and if it takes having bad things happen to us in this physical world then so be it. His first priority is spiritual, we will be physically dead a lot longer than we will be alive and Heaven is a lot better than even the best this world has to offer, no one knows these things more than God and He works to get us into Heaven and eternal life. He knows, I dont, this is where faith comes in trusting and believing that God does have our best interests, and that Heaven is eternal and better than anything we can imagine.
We also have to remember that God is the ulitmate and final judge, and that He will judge based on His law. If you have broken one command you are guilty and the punishment for any law breaker is death. All have sinned so we are all living on borrowed time until we accept salvation, none of us are guiltless. From the time we understand the difference between right and wrong, and make the conscious decision to do wrong, we are judged guilty. Gods ultimate judgment has not yet begun, but He is not going to be made a fool of. He has given the devil power over the earth for a time, which now is a part of, but God is still ultimately in control and sin is punished. Now this punishment is meant to help teach, and guide us to Him, just as we punish our kids, but as our kids have the choice to turn away from their wrong doing and learn the lesson or to continue to be stubborn and willfull, we also have the same choice.
We christians and rightly so, do like to emphasize the side of God that is merciful. loving and forgiving, but God is the ultimate judge and He doesnt let offenses go unpunished and He sees all offenses, nothing escapes Him, and He will judge all of us, either guilty or not. We set up men to judge us, and make our laws, some of whom are criminals themselves, being bribed, bought, using their power for selfishness, and the best of whom are imperfect and cannot keep their own laws perfectly, I mean who has not broke the speed limit even for a second? At least in God, I have a judge who cannot be bribed, who will do what is right according to the law, and who in the form of Jesus Christ lived a life that was perfect, who did not break His own law. And in that form, as Jesus, we see the love of God as my punishment that I earned was paid on the cross. there all sin was judged guilty and worthy of death and our eternal punishment accomplished. We have a choice of admitting our guilt and facing a loving, merciful God as our judge who tells us our price has been paid, or we can rebel and have to face the righteous judge that says we rejected his offer of leniency and now must serve our term. They are the same God, the same one, the merciful and the just and the Bible does show both aspects of Him.
I know not Bible quotes, but maybe helpful to keep in mind when thinking about specific instances or quotes that somehow dont seem to fit.
Hope this helps,
A few things I have tried to keep in mind are that Gods priority first and foremost is that we get to Heaven, and if it takes having bad things happen to us in this physical world then so be it. His first priority is spiritual, we will be physically dead a lot longer than we will be alive and Heaven is a lot better than even the best this world has to offer, no one knows these things more than God and He works to get us into Heaven and eternal life. He knows, I dont, this is where faith comes in trusting and believing that God does have our best interests, and that Heaven is eternal and better than anything we can imagine.
We also have to remember that God is the ulitmate and final judge, and that He will judge based on His law. If you have broken one command you are guilty and the punishment for any law breaker is death. All have sinned so we are all living on borrowed time until we accept salvation, none of us are guiltless. From the time we understand the difference between right and wrong, and make the conscious decision to do wrong, we are judged guilty. Gods ultimate judgment has not yet begun, but He is not going to be made a fool of. He has given the devil power over the earth for a time, which now is a part of, but God is still ultimately in control and sin is punished. Now this punishment is meant to help teach, and guide us to Him, just as we punish our kids, but as our kids have the choice to turn away from their wrong doing and learn the lesson or to continue to be stubborn and willfull, we also have the same choice.
We christians and rightly so, do like to emphasize the side of God that is merciful. loving and forgiving, but God is the ultimate judge and He doesnt let offenses go unpunished and He sees all offenses, nothing escapes Him, and He will judge all of us, either guilty or not. We set up men to judge us, and make our laws, some of whom are criminals themselves, being bribed, bought, using their power for selfishness, and the best of whom are imperfect and cannot keep their own laws perfectly, I mean who has not broke the speed limit even for a second? At least in God, I have a judge who cannot be bribed, who will do what is right according to the law, and who in the form of Jesus Christ lived a life that was perfect, who did not break His own law. And in that form, as Jesus, we see the love of God as my punishment that I earned was paid on the cross. there all sin was judged guilty and worthy of death and our eternal punishment accomplished. We have a choice of admitting our guilt and facing a loving, merciful God as our judge who tells us our price has been paid, or we can rebel and have to face the righteous judge that says we rejected his offer of leniency and now must serve our term. They are the same God, the same one, the merciful and the just and the Bible does show both aspects of Him.
I know not Bible quotes, but maybe helpful to keep in mind when thinking about specific instances or quotes that somehow dont seem to fit.
Hope this helps,
bluehealer
Active member
Revelation 2:10
Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.
Some will be tested to justify the solidity of their faith. Some are tested to strengthen their faith. And for some... it may be their final calling.
Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.
Some will be tested to justify the solidity of their faith. Some are tested to strengthen their faith. And for some... it may be their final calling.
Flaw
Well-known member
Right on brother!
You know man.....I have thought about this exact same issue recently and wondered IF I would have been like the majority and thought Jesus was a charlatan, heretic or false prophet or something.
That said, to touch Jesus's hand, or hear Him speak, or be in His presence would have been an absolutley INCREDIBLE experience. BUT, I can't help but wonder IF I would have been foolish enough to use too much caution as "who is this Man who proclaims to be GOD"....you know?
The majority Did not believe in Jesus or as the son of God. So nothing will be different in todays world. You just have to make sure you constantly work on being closer to God. Pray endlessely on how you can serve him better. How you can come to accurate knowledge of his word and not what "the world" tells you is right. When you have the scriptures and God in your heart nothing can separate that bond and you will automatically act.
I like these scriptures. What some people don't see here is that Jesus cured him because of 2 things. Yes pity but how would the man have acted without faith? Faith healed him also
mark 1:40*"There also came to him a leper, entreating him even on bended knee, saying to him: “If you just want to, you can make me clean.” 41*At that he was moved with pity, and he stretched out his hand and touched him, and said to him: “I want to. Be made clean.” 42*And immediately the leprosy vanished from him, and he became clean. "
I've never read a scripture where Jesus proclaims to be God So I can't comment on that. He always gave credit to his father. His humility cannot be compared with any other man that has walked this earth.
John 7 :16*Jesus, in turn, answered them and said: “What I teach is not mine, but belongs to him that sent me.
John 7: 18*He that speaks of his own originality is seeking his own glory; but he that seeks the glory of him that sent him, this one is true, and there is no unrighteousness in him"
If you look up His Hebrew name Jehoshua, It translates to “Jehovah Is Salvation"
Interesting enough at Isaiah 12:2 it says " Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation." KJV
Orangatang
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Nice one here.
omni
Active member
Acts 8:30-31
30Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet, and said, "Do you understand what you are reading?"
31And he said, "Well, how could I, unless someone guides me?" And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.
Matthew 7:3-5
3 Why do you see the splinter that’s in your brother’s or sister’s eye, but don’t notice the log in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother or sister, ‘Let me take the splinter out of your eye,’ when there’s a log in your eye? 5 You deceive yourself! First take the log out of your eye, and then you’ll see clearly to take the splinter out of your brother’s or sister’s eye.
30Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet, and said, "Do you understand what you are reading?"
31And he said, "Well, how could I, unless someone guides me?" And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.
Matthew 7:3-5
3 Why do you see the splinter that’s in your brother’s or sister’s eye, but don’t notice the log in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother or sister, ‘Let me take the splinter out of your eye,’ when there’s a log in your eye? 5 You deceive yourself! First take the log out of your eye, and then you’ll see clearly to take the splinter out of your brother’s or sister’s eye.
kvothe
Member
I just read that last night, I just finished the Bible and am re-reading from the start. every time I read Genesis, especially the first part, I always think about how easy life was before the fall, and I compare it to now and struggling with work, finances, social pressures, etc, all the stuff we have to deal with and at times I get angry at Adam and Eve, but then I see that I am as weak as they were, and realize if it was not them, I am sure one of their offspring, or grandkids, etc. would have done it, or if it came to me, I am sure I would have failed. Wouldnt that be terrible, to be the one who caused man to be thrown out of paradise and through my action to have sin enter the world!
thankfully, the Lord gave Jesus as a source of eternal life, and not just eternal life, but eternal life with change and growth to perfection due to the power and ministry of the Holy Spirit so that once I enter into eternal life, I dont mess it up because I am still a sinner. The new eternal life and paradise of Heaven will be free of sin, the devil and his followers will be in the lake of fire and unable to enter into Heaven to cause another fall. So I guess, everything kind of works out for the best, even with the fall of man. It still stinks in some ways that we can trace the hardness of life back to that one event, but how great the Lord is that even in that seeming disaster, He was able to use it to cleanse Paradise of the threat of sin forever.
BUCKNUTS
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great verse and applicable in this very thread.
Flaw
Well-known member
I like Darby's version
"A fool hath no delight in understanding, but only that his heart may reveal itself." prov 18:2
B5150
Legend
1 Corinthians 1:18-25
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
For it is written:
"I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate."
Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
For it is written:
"I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate."
Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.
manofgod
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ROMANS16:16-17" Now I beseech you,brethren,mark(note)them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which you have learned and avoid them.
For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly;and by good words and flattering speeches deceive the hearts of the simple"
Titus 3:9-11"But avoid foolish questions (disputes)and genealogies,and contentions,and strivings about the law;for they are unprofitableand and vain(useless).
A man that is an heretic (divisive) after the first and second admonition reject;
Knowing that he that is such is subverted(warped),and sinneth,being condemned himself"
For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly;and by good words and flattering speeches deceive the hearts of the simple"
Titus 3:9-11"But avoid foolish questions (disputes)and genealogies,and contentions,and strivings about the law;for they are unprofitableand and vain(useless).
A man that is an heretic (divisive) after the first and second admonition reject;
Knowing that he that is such is subverted(warped),and sinneth,being condemned himself"
B5150
Legend
Philippians 2:6-8
Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death—even death on a cross!
Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death—even death on a cross!
hoopem6
Well-known member
1 Corinthians 3:16-20 -
16) Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you? 17) If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him. For God’s temple is holy, and you are that temple.
18) Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you thinks that he is wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. 19) For the wisdom of this world is folly with God. For it is written, "He catches the wise in their craftiness," 20) and again, "The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile."
16) Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you? 17) If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him. For God’s temple is holy, and you are that temple.
18) Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you thinks that he is wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. 19) For the wisdom of this world is folly with God. For it is written, "He catches the wise in their craftiness," 20) and again, "The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile."
kvothe
Member
amen, how true, every day all we hear about is people who have power and money and how great they are, or how to get power and money and how great it is, and yet the rich suffer with divorce, drugs, death, sickness, depression, etc same as the poor and their power and money make them no better equipped to deal with lifes battles.
A very rich man my family knows lost his wife to cancer recently, at her showing, though the man has millions upon millions of dollars, I overheard him say I have to lean on my faith, that is all that I have.
Flaw
Well-known member
“You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know.”—John 4:22.
“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Master, Master,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me IN THAT DAY: ‘Master, Master, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew you at all. Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness.”—Matt. 7:21-23,
“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Master, Master,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me IN THAT DAY: ‘Master, Master, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew you at all. Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness.”—Matt. 7:21-23,
hoopem6
Well-known member
Omni, I feel you are intentionally posting Scriptures out of context in an attempt to evoke a negative response. Please do not misconstrue the message of the verse by only posting a selected tidbit from the entire chapter.
Matthew 15:1-9 - Traditions and Commandments
1) Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and said, 2) "Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat." 3) He answered them, "And why do you break the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition? 4) For God commanded, 'Honor your father and your mother,' and, 'Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.' 5) But you say, 'If anyone tells his father or his mother, "What you would have gained from me is given to God," 6) he need not honor his father.' So for the sake of your tradition you have made void the word of God. 7) You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: 8) 'This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; 9) in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'
lennoxchi
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And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
Revelation 6:8
i like the darker parts of the bible, i've got issues.
Revelation 6:8
i like the darker parts of the bible, i've got issues.
kvothe
Member
Philippians 4:11-13
11Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.
12I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.
13I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
I wish I could do this. Wouldnt it be great to be content no matter what? Think of the lack of stress, howmuch happier, better life would be? It takes great faith to be that way.
One thing I notice is that in V11 Paul says "I have learned", learning speaks not only of instruction, but of experience. That means Paul had endured both great bounty and poverty, and reading Acts we see the depth of suffering that he went through, hunted, beaten, shipwrecked, imprisoned, also the other way, as a prisoner at times he was treated very well, he spoke to great crowds and no doubt had many admirers, etc.
the question for me, how bad do I want to grow in faith so that I can be content in whatever state I am in? Do I want it bad enough to face the experiences, at least to a certain degree, Paul did? to have my life be living proof of V13? to answer yes to these questions is a very tough thing to do. Yes, there is great provision, great victory and overcoming in the Christian life, but there is also great sacrifice, you really cant have one without the other unfortunately.
11Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.
12I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.
13I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
I wish I could do this. Wouldnt it be great to be content no matter what? Think of the lack of stress, howmuch happier, better life would be? It takes great faith to be that way.
One thing I notice is that in V11 Paul says "I have learned", learning speaks not only of instruction, but of experience. That means Paul had endured both great bounty and poverty, and reading Acts we see the depth of suffering that he went through, hunted, beaten, shipwrecked, imprisoned, also the other way, as a prisoner at times he was treated very well, he spoke to great crowds and no doubt had many admirers, etc.
the question for me, how bad do I want to grow in faith so that I can be content in whatever state I am in? Do I want it bad enough to face the experiences, at least to a certain degree, Paul did? to have my life be living proof of V13? to answer yes to these questions is a very tough thing to do. Yes, there is great provision, great victory and overcoming in the Christian life, but there is also great sacrifice, you really cant have one without the other unfortunately.
Flaw
Well-known member
The book of revelation is extremely symbolic, It takes a lot of studying to put it together. That said it tells us so much information about the end.
Rev 1:1 " A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented [it] in signs through him to his slave John"
Rev 1:3 "Happy is he who reads aloud and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and who observe the things written in it; for the appointed time is near."
BUCKNUTS
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It's good that you know your scriptures enough to see the deception. Remember the devil knows scripture and much like this guy tried to twist them in an attempt to stumble Jesus. It appears that most in this thread are aware of his tricks though.
Matthew 4 (New King James Version)
Matthew 4
Satan Tempts Jesus
1 Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 2 And when He had fasted forty days and forty nights, afterward He was hungry. 3 Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”
4 But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’”[a]
5 Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, 6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written:
‘ He shall give His angels charge over you,’
and,
‘ In their hands they shall bear you up,
Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’”
7 Jesus said to him, “It is written again, ‘You shall not tempt the LORD your God.’”[c]
8 Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9 And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.”
10 Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you,[d] Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.’”[e]
11 Then the devil left Him, and behold, angels came and ministered to Him.
Flaw
Well-known member
Going along with your post bucknuts
Luke 4:*5 "And he led him up, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said unto him, To thee will I give all this authority, and the glory of them: for it hath been delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 7 If thou therefore wilt worship before me, it shall all be thine. 8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, It is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. " -ASV
Luke 4:*5 "And he led him up, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said unto him, To thee will I give all this authority, and the glory of them: for it hath been delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 7 If thou therefore wilt worship before me, it shall all be thine. 8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, It is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. " -ASV
BUCKNUTS
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In scripture satan is referred to as prince/ruler of this world, I always took this verse as proof of that. When the offer is made to Jesus he never rebukes satan's claim that it all belongs to him, which he obviously would know very well if it were not the case.
manofgod
Guest
walk in the spirit
but thank God he didnt leave us alone
John16:7"Nevertheless i tell you the truth;it is expedient (advantageous) for you that i go away,for if i go not awaythe Comforter(Holy Spirit) will not come unto you;but if i depart,i will send him to you"
Acts1:8 "But you shall receive power after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you"
Romans8:1 "there is therefore now no condemnation to thosewhich are in Christ Jesus,who walk not after the flesh,but after the Spirit"
but thank God he didnt leave us alone
John16:7"Nevertheless i tell you the truth;it is expedient (advantageous) for you that i go away,for if i go not awaythe Comforter(Holy Spirit) will not come unto you;but if i depart,i will send him to you"
Acts1:8 "But you shall receive power after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you"
Romans8:1 "there is therefore now no condemnation to thosewhich are in Christ Jesus,who walk not after the flesh,but after the Spirit"
BUCKNUTS
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For sure. Adam gave it away but Jesus bought it back on the cross. Amen
Flaw
Well-known member
You got it bro. There's plenty of other scriptures that back that up also. Just a few.
John 12:31 "Now there is a judging of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out."
John 14:30 "I shall not speak much with YOU anymore, for the ruler of the world is coming. And he has no hold on me,"
2nd corithians 4: "among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through."
kvothe
Member
That is the absolute truth, Satan is the prince of this world at this time, and you can see that the same things that he tempted Jesus with are the same things that are important to society, material goods and wordly power and fame, they are what define success and rulers today, and these are what he uses to tempt all of us. Same thing he has been doing since the beginning, he showed Eve how nice the fruit looked, how good it would taste and the power it would give her (to become like God). Same tricks, unfortunately they still work.
omni
Active member
Hosea 9:11-16
11Ephraim’s glory shall fly away like a bird—
no birth, no pregnancy, no conception!
12 Even if they bring up children,
I will bereave them till none is left.
Woe to them
when I depart from them!
13Ephraim, as I have seen, was like a young palm planted in a meadow;
but Ephraim must lead his children out to slaughter.
14Give them, O LORD—
what will you give?
Give them a miscarrying womb
and dry breasts.
15Every evil of theirs is in Gilgal;
there I began to hate them.
Because of the wickedness of their deeds
I will drive them out of my house.
I will love them no more;
all their princes are rebels.
16Ephraim is stricken;
their root is dried up;
they shall bear no fruit.
Even though they give birth,
I will put their beloved children to death.
11Ephraim’s glory shall fly away like a bird—
no birth, no pregnancy, no conception!
12 Even if they bring up children,
I will bereave them till none is left.
Woe to them
when I depart from them!
13Ephraim, as I have seen, was like a young palm planted in a meadow;
but Ephraim must lead his children out to slaughter.
14Give them, O LORD—
what will you give?
Give them a miscarrying womb
and dry breasts.
15Every evil of theirs is in Gilgal;
there I began to hate them.
Because of the wickedness of their deeds
I will drive them out of my house.
I will love them no more;
all their princes are rebels.
16Ephraim is stricken;
their root is dried up;
they shall bear no fruit.
Even though they give birth,
I will put their beloved children to death.
BUCKNUTS
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2 Peter 3 14-18 (New King James Version)
14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; 15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
17 You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; 18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen.
14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; 15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
17 You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; 18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen.
Whacked
Well-known member
Quotes like this always remind me the TOTAL BAD ASS Jesus is! SO PEACEFUL yet SO POWERFUL!
We as Christians KNOW how powerful satan is. Yet, after 40 days of fasting, Jesus laughed at him and put him in his place when offered everything on this Earth.
Ummmm.....not to mention all the other stuff Jesus did....like ASCENDING INTO HEAVEN BODY AND ALL AFTER DEATH! Think about it!
Praise be to Jesus! The only true and sovereign ruler and King. Does it NOT make you giddy inside to realize HIS almighty power is on our side?
We as Christians KNOW how powerful satan is. Yet, after 40 days of fasting, Jesus laughed at him and put him in his place when offered everything on this Earth.
Ummmm.....not to mention all the other stuff Jesus did....like ASCENDING INTO HEAVEN BODY AND ALL AFTER DEATH! Think about it!
Praise be to Jesus! The only true and sovereign ruler and King. Does it NOT make you giddy inside to realize HIS almighty power is on our side?