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Frode Falch said:
Nah only the name of the PWO. I dont like to judge after one single serving. But first impression is very good. Not so strong as a big dose of OG Excelsior. But far better than hydrazine. It feel somewhere between craze and Excelsior.

Its not a hardcore rushing pwo that make you feel like you need to move in order to survive. Its a very very very clean focus and mood lift, together with amazing body controll and body awareness.

Slightly feeling like limitless pill. But in a realistic way. Not like in the movies.

I wont give a final verdict before at least five more tries.

But first time test: 9.5/10
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Thanks for posting your feedback. With respect to the "type" of stimulation you felt from the PWO -- does it feel like it probably contains typical PWO ingredients, or does it confer that "there's gotta be something special in here" effect like users noticed with Craze and OG Excelsior?
 
SpicedCider said:
Thanks for posting your feedback. With respect to the "type" of stimulation you felt from the PWO -- does it feel like it probably contains typical PWO ingredients, or does it confer that "there's gotta be something special in here" effect like users noticed with Craze and OG Excelsior?
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Kinda hard to say. I dont have a degree in chemistry. But i like that its not that unpleasant energy like you get from caffeine, Alpha yo, and **** like that.

Its this almost magical clean focus and energy
 
Frode Falch said:
Nah only the name of the PWO. I dont like to judge after one single serving. But first impression is very good. Not so strong as a big dose of OG Excelsior. But far better than hydrazine. It feel somewhere between craze and Excelsior.

Its not a hardcore rushing pwo that make you feel like you need to move in order to survive. Its a very very very clean focus and mood lift, together with amazing body controll and body awareness.

Slightly feeling like limitless pill. But in a realistic way. Not like in the movies.

I wont give a final verdict before at least five more tries.

But first time test: 9.5/10
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How much are they paying you to write this hear in the thread Excelsior heads follow?
I believe however that you are a person who have been able to use these stims reaponsibly and occasionally.

I admit my own use has been dangerous as I for awhile became more or less addicted to these stims and even for daily functional use it became for me.

Excelsior is so long lasting for me that I barely crash in the same day when used in low doses.
The very few times I went over a scoop and max about 1,5 scoops the side effects especially in retrospection were obvious for me.

Being slightly over the top like muscleman posting 12 hours later from being sensitive to long ladting stims might see funny sometimes lol.

But really it has messed me up and part of it also being sleeplessness the same day.

Thank you though whoever was reading and I hope I also have shared some positivity in my stim abuse posts.

Part of me has known it for years but If I can just stop being a chicken and show some forward spirit without PWO I know my overall function surely will improve.
But its easy to be tempted by quick pills and pwo powders being tired from stim and possibly even coffee addiction or any kind of stim addiction.
 
ELROCK said:
Let us know how that one goes for you from them. The eria J, DMHA, Amp citrate from bulk stimulants dot com all seem low quality or very underdosed to me.
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Finally got the Amp in today. Lost in the mail for 5 days but they found it in a different bin. Anyway…. Today was not a lifting day but I had some things I wanted to get done. Took 100mg around 3:30pm. Now I haven’t used Amp in a long time but as soon as I took it, (toss and wash) it 100% tasted just as bad as I remembered it tasting before . I’ll need to try it a few more times but 100mg felt legit. Lol… I had a conversation with my wife for almost 45 minutes and didn’t realize it. That’s one thing I remembered about Amp is how good of a mood it put me in. Tomorrow is a workout day and I’ll do another 100mg with a caffeine tab. If all goes well, Sunday I’ll add it to Collision Course my PWO.
 
I have some amp citrate from zoo I never opened. Need to try it. Never remember being blown away by it in the past

also, hesitantly bought a bottle of excelsior from ruesco. Weird how they go in and out of stock when they said they got one last shipment or whatever. Glad I held off on the original due to how bad for you it probably is and it’s potential for abuse as a recreational thing.

but thought I’d get a small glimpse of what was and maybe have some for days I need a lot of productivity
 
CATdiesel76 said:
I have some amp citrate from zoo I never opened. Need to try it. Never remember being blown away by it in the past

also, hesitantly bought a bottle of excelsior from ruesco. Weird how they go in and out of stock when they said they got one last shipment or whatever. Glad I held off on the original due to how bad for you it probably is and it’s potential for abuse as a recreational thing.

but thought I’d get a small glimpse of what was and maybe have some for days I need a lot of productivity
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hate to break it to you but the red tub probably has a “secret sauce” too… just less or maybe something less potent
 
zufir said:
hate to break it to you but the red tub probably has a “secret sauce” too… just less or maybe something less potent
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Oh I know and I’m fine with that. I just didn’t want the take a half scoop and be up for two days strength of the original
 
CATdiesel76 said:
I have some amp citrate from zoo I never opened. Need to try it. Never remember being blown away by it in the past

also, hesitantly bought a bottle of excelsior from ruesco. Weird how they go in and out of stock when they said they got one last shipment or whatever. Glad I held off on the original due to how bad for you it probably is and it’s potential for abuse as a recreational thing.

but thought I’d get a small glimpse of what was and maybe have some for days I need a lot of productivity
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Just use it responsibly and you will be fine. I use it 1x per month at 3/4 scoop on a long 12 hour shift. Drink plenty of water throughout the day. Enjoy!
 
Frode Falch said:
Doomsday PWO
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So I tried to get in on this and e-mailed Predator, and got this in response:

Thank you very much for getting in touch with us.

We're all out of the samples unfortunately, but I can confirm the new PWO will be in stock in the coming months :)

Sincerely,
Predator Nutrition | Customer Service Support Team
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So, on the one hand, damn. On the other hand: soon, bros...
 
Received my red 6/24 tub from Ruesco. Grainy pink and white powder. Never had any form of excelsior before. Took one scoop 10 min ago. Will keep posted. So far slightly warm
 
One scoop felt like a pretty decent pre workout. Took a half followed by another half for two scoops. This stuff is insane. I mean I have lots of stim experience and I feel like I’ve been hit by lightning. But great clean energy. Muscleman mania makes much more sense now
 
The real question is how long do these new batches last? Wasn’t expecting it to be so potent based upon what everyone said. Will I sleep tonight? Haha

also, heart rate seems fairly normal? Don’t know how
 
Last update. Stuff definitely still has plenty of something in it. Feels exactly like a mix of a poplar 80s recreational and addy. Almost too much to be productive. More like a don’t move too fast or you will collapse. Maybe it takes awhile to take full effect and should have stuck with 1. Just felt like after all the let downs on this thread it wouldn’t be anything crazy. Also seems to hit in waves. Just when you think it’s wearing off it comes on strong as **** again
 
CATdiesel76 said:
Last update. Stuff definitely still has plenty of something in it. Feels exactly like a mix of a poplar 80s recreational and addy. Almost too much to be productive. More like a don’t move too fast or you will collapse. Maybe it takes awhile to take full effect and should have stuck with 1. Just felt like after all the let downs on this thread it wouldn’t be anything crazy. Also seems to hit in waves. Just when you think it’s wearing off it comes on strong as **** again
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For productivity stick with 3/4 scoop to 1 scoop. If you go above that it’s more a recreational euphoric product.

And yes excelsior is definitely felt in waves!
 
CATdiesel76 said:
Last update. Stuff definitely still has plenty of something in it. Feels exactly like a mix of a poplar 80s recreational and addy. Almost too much to be productive. More like a don’t move too fast or you will collapse. Maybe it takes awhile to take full effect and should have stuck with 1. Just felt like after all the let downs on this thread it wouldn’t be anything crazy. Also seems to hit in waves. Just when you think it’s wearing off it comes on strong as **** again
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...Were you able to sleep at all the same day ? 😅
 
I slept but it took about 5 bourbons to do so. My brain would feel better if I had done x all night. That 2-3 scoops of new tubs is bogus. That was stronger than any recreational thing I have tried. It was just waaaayy to much
 
CATdiesel76 said:
I slept but it took about 5 bourbons to do so. My brain would feel better if I had done x all night. That 2-3 scoops of new tubs is bogus. That was stronger than any recreational thing I have tried. It was just waaaayy to much
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I've tried a lot of stuff to sleep after a session of excelsior but nothing gives me a good night of rest... the closest is maybe Phenibut but even then it's hard to fall asleep
 
This thread is hilarious 😄 It looks more like people trying different batches of molly or something.. Not that I have really anything against this convo, it's just amusing = ) And I am a bit jelly, as I haven't got much out of my tub of this expensive nectar of stim heads. To be clear, yes it hits, if I take enough (1 - 2,5 scoops), but with the sides and nausea and hindering of sleep, I'm having a hard time finding it to be beneficial.

But anyways, carry on = )
 
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KvanH said:
This thread is hilarious 😄 It looks like people trying different batches of molly.. Not that I have really anything against this convo, it's just amusing = ) And I am a bit jelly, as I haven't got much out of my tub of this expensive nectar of stim heads. To be clear, yes it hits, if I take enough (1 - 2,5 scoops), but with the sides and nausea and hindering of sleep, I'm having a hard time finding it to be beneficial.

But anyways, carry on = )
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That’s exactly what it’s like. I didn’t really have sides other than being cheezed out of my mind but I do feel like I’m in a bit of a trance today. Honestly it’s still in my system. I’m hyper and rocking back and forth but almost dreamlike. Almost fell into the trap of taking a tiny amount to make it through the day because I couldn’t function but knew that was a terrible idea and didn’t do it. This batch feels exactly like everyone mentioned the old ones being like. I can’t believe how long this stuff lasts I can seriously understand how people went manic on it
 
CATdiesel76 said:
Almost fell into the trap of taking a tiny amount to make it through the day because I couldn’t function but knew that was a terrible idea and didn’t do it.
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Hehe that's funny because I thought about it once, but there's a thin line between 'pre workout' and 'chasing the next high' so I backed off.
 
CATdiesel76 said:
That’s exactly what it’s like. I didn’t really have sides other than being cheezed out of my mind but I do feel like I’m in a bit of a trance today. Honestly it’s still in my system. I’m hyper and rocking back and forth but almost dreamlike. Almost fell into the trap of taking a tiny amount to make it through the day because I couldn’t function but knew that was a terrible idea and didn’t do it. This batch feels exactly like everyone mentioned the old ones being like. I can’t believe how long this stuff lasts I can seriously understand how people went manic on it
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If you eventually decide you don't care for it, PM me and I'll buy what's left off you
 
zufir said:
Hehe that's funny because I thought about it once, but there's a thin line between 'pre workout' and 'chasing the next high' so I backed off.
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I am the living proof that when you keep repeating sleepless stim nights and the next day topper upper it us not long until you risk fried muscleman mania….
I dunno if lucky but partly because you havent fried these particular Excelsior receptors yet you did get a wilder ride than any of us O.G would get on same batch
 
Muscleman has been speeking from the shadows of my mind. Drink that pink juice! Put on that Wolverine tank top, are you never neither gonna grow up nor get jacked even!?
but meeeh I gave up lifting, been building a more stable persona who also would get really sore and tired from weightlifting and PWO mania,
actually dusted off my bench and dumbbells first training session since August.....
and I managed even without Excelsior just a bit too much caffeine heavy Ronnie Coleman Oyeah Buddy expired date chemical sweet nastiness....
and that's the problem
if getting used to Excelsior, for me stim wise nothing gets close but plus is I can stay without mania...
but now something within me tells me to go to the secret hiding stash and open that forbidden O.G tub....
no I must not, the muscleman and his strange medicine must forever be locked up and kept secret.....
 
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I was probably born with my brain already wired almost lika a stimwreck lol.
With Excelsior at least when I am under the influence of the pink Kool aid and look in the mirror I look jacked, the power of placebo and Excelsior! 🤪

@Frode Falch sorry for asking if you got paid! I am just occasionally impulsive and less polite and sometimes in this thread I think we can be just a little bit rough... n tough.... and free n easy... :)
How is that Doomsday PWO going? Consistent good effects?
The name is scary! Lol I trust you report your own experience and it seems you are a good healthy person only using PWO like it should.

I had these inspired thoughts sometimes thinking I should give up all the artificially flavoured stims an die healthy but then muscleman wanted to make a comeback today and he was so lazy he even needed a heaped scoop of too caffeine heavy old Ronnie Coleman Yeah Buddy... But I made it without Excelsior Lol.
 
So when I ordered I received one black 06/24 and one red 06/24. I swear I’ve see it they were deifferebr in here but can’t remember what the consensus was
 
Was able to find the answer back in this thread. Guess the 06/24 black tubs were stronger. Might have to crack one this weekend to see. My red 06/24 was super grainy like people said the only ones were and unbelievably strong north of 1.5 scoops. Could be virgin receptors but I’ve tried just about everything
 
So I will just keep updating this thread. Oddly enough, my red tub with grainy powder seemed to be more drug like and strong. But I took two scoops. My black tub is very fine powder. Seemed super strong at first, then tapered off and was mellow, now picking up a bit stronger but not the same dirty stim feeling and not as strong. But it was only one scoop. I was terrified it was going to be a nasty roller coaster but it’s very pleasant. Almost dissociative. I think something is off based upon my tubs don’t reflect other’s previous experiences. It’s also weird to me that reusco secured a random last batch yet has gone in and out of stock multiple times. Could be virgin receptors but who knows
 
CATdiesel76 said:
So I will just keep updating this thread. Oddly enough, my red tub with grainy powder seemed to be more drug like and strong. But I took two scoops. My black tub is very fine powder. Seemed super strong at first, then tapered off and was mellow, now picking up a bit stronger but not the same dirty stim feeling and not as strong. But it was only one scoop. I was terrified it was going to be a nasty roller coaster but it’s very pleasant. Almost dissociative. I think something is off based upon my tubs don’t reflect other’s previous experiences. It’s also weird to me that reusco secured a random last batch yet has gone in and out of stock multiple times. Could be virgin receptors but who knows
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I recognize your newfound Excelsior love , not that you have entered into muscleman yet.. Lol
But it's a weird one and hard to get your head around when you start notice tubs are different.

Like Damiana said half scoop of 10/22 and I have to add some of the 8/23 had same long lasting energy even with low doses and tolerance didn't even build up quickly. With the red tub if I have it two days in a row it feels meh and more toxic but the good batches I could keep drinking for a couple in lower doses and in kept working like that.

With the new red 5/24 if I haven't taken any Excelsior in a week it feels a bit smilar but never gives the same good mood and push even when increasing the dosage. Personally I also get slightly sick in my gut from the artificial sweetness if drinking more than one scoop and although similar still not the same.

Congrats though that at least you seem to have gotten a strong batch.
Thing though quite a few people get a negative feeling even on what the O.G heads in here consider a good batch.
And honestly having quit drinking it most of the time for me even though I don't realize it after drinking, even if I am functional on a lower dose it is still accompanied by a slight ego enhancing mania.....

That dissociative feeling you mention reminds of wayofthedeadgones YouTube review of the 10/22 batch where he felt like he was in a bubble disconnect from the world or something.... Stay safe bro! (y)
 
muscleman said:
I recognize your newfound Excelsior love , not that you have entered into muscleman yet.. Lol
But it's a weird one and hard to get your head around when you start notice tubs are different.

Like Damiana said half scoop of 10/22 and I have to add some of the 8/23 had same long lasting energy even with low doses and tolerance didn't even build up quickly. With the red tub if I have it two days in a row it feels meh and more toxic but the good batches I could keep drinking for a couple in lower doses and in kept working like that.

With the new red 5/24 if I haven't taken any Excelsior in a week it feels a bit smilar but never gives the same good mood and push even when increasing the dosage. Personally I also get slightly sick in my gut from the artificial sweetness if drinking more than one scoop and although similar still not the same.

Congrats though that at least you seem to have gotten a strong batch.
Thing though quite a few people get a negative feeling even on what the O.G heads in here consider a good batch.
And honestly having quit drinking it most of the time for me even though I don't realize it after drinking, even if I am functional on a lower dose it is still accompanied by a slight ego enhancing mania.....

That dissociative feeling you mention reminds of wayofthedeadgones YouTube review of the 10/22 batch where he felt like he was in a bubble disconnect from the world or something.... Stay safe bro! (y)
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Appreciate it! Honestly not anything I have much of a desire to take frequently. Almost kind of hard to think of a scenario where I want to but I think it will come in handy here and there. It’s weird stuff. It’s focused and energetic but almost a dream like trance. I’m sure it will have some uses here and there. Mostly only took it yesterday to see how the tubs varied
 
CATdiesel76 said:
So when I ordered I received one black 06/24 and one red 06/24. I swear I’ve see it they were deifferebr in here but can’t remember what the consensus was
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Generally the consensus has been that the black 6/24 were strong. Some people also report strong on red tubs but I only had red 5/24 and they hit but different and although some of the red might be strong I wouldn't expect any of the newer
CATdiesel76 said:
Appreciate it! Honestly not anything I have much of a desire to take frequently. Almost kind of hard to think of a scenario where I want to but I think it will come in handy here and there. It’s weird stuff. It’s focused and energetic but almost a dream like trance. I’m sure it will have some uses here and there. Mostly only took it yesterday to see how the tubs varied
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I appreciate you reflecting and everybody in this thread because I would be considered even weirder if I tried talking about Excelsior with people who never tried it lol.
At the same time I know its risky business and I think over the years in the long long Excelsior thread, not trying to brag but I was one of the most frequent poster in that thread and sometimes my posts turned really long while under the influence of Excelsior.
I am diagnosed with attention and hyperactivity although in my case its rather a mental hyperactivity and although the clinical tests also showed genius level verbal logical deduction I can be really messy and stressed finding myself in situations I don't like and stressed mentally.

I experimented with the common big Pharma stimulants to treat attention issues. They did get my lazy ass forward and moving but pretty much the whole time I felt very unhappy and unsatisfied and the crashes on those were just killer and for a few months I was even a worse mess than usually.

For awhile I thought I don't need Excelsior if I can get Pharma meds cheaper... so I didn't stock up even more... I was around with Craze and Detonate and saw those getting banned and I realized quite early on Excelsior was gonna be gone sooner or later.

For people living balanced lives with little stress and good sleep I don't think moderate stim use is of great danger. For myself its dangerous if I am caught up in stress.
In the old thread I clearly remember two people riding ambulances to ER with ministrokes and they risked and were probably really close to passing away or getting worse injuries. One of them had been using 3 scoops daily, morning work etc for sometime though but back then pretty much all tub were even more dynamite although the new tubs seem to have some similar dynamite in them.
I am hypersensitives in many ways and although simliar I just know it is something different with the new red tubs and they feel more toxic and sickening to me and I only use them very occasionally with a little hope. Well energy and stuff if I have been clean for awhile but not the same as old times.
 
Was about to write another stimnovel in my last post lol.
Edit: I wasn't planning on it but this post became even longer just typing Excelsior free flow style lol :ROFLMAO:

But yeah before believing I am only glorifying this red powder read the end of my last post about other strokes and how stims can mess you up.

After weaning myself off Excelsior. Partly due to supply running but partly due to my higher sober self always believing that as the name Excelsior meaning ever aiming higher and seeking the highest of high in spirit call it God or the Great Spirit or whatever rings true and fills your heart with love.
Stim junkie Excelsior though, today again just a little more than half a scoop 10,5 hours ago.
I have only used Excelsior for working out very few times and the times I did I realized I could really go beyond my own true capacity lol.
The focus, mind and the anesthetic effect when it comes to pain as well,

like when I drank Excelsior in a forest party over a weekend and danced barefoot for 20 hours in a trance like never before and only when the Excelsior was wearing off another 24 hours later or so I realized my feet were still numb and it took a week before I regained full sensations in the nerves of my feet.

The last supply I have I like to use for days when my dragging lazy ass needs a boost and when I have a lot to do and sometimes before riding all over this little town on my bicycle doing pretty much all possible missions I have got to do,

Like one of the days before Christmas it was minus 18 degrees here but I drank some Excelsior and just rode straight into the icy wind and even though the anesthetic effect from Excelsior and my polar thermo leggings shock down jacked etc The icy wind blew into my bones feeling like minus 30. Actually I am kinda pissed I ended up in such a cold place again. I was born in Northern Europe but managed to escape for 15 years living in Asia and was lucky to get a couple of amazing tropical winters. But then my destiny kind of kicked me back into my native regions.
I am a champ in heat and love the sun but I become a weakling in cold and get achy joints and my attention deficit brain sometimes turns extremely slow and even my hearts true excelsior emotions have lost their sparkle sometimes.

Excelsior is actually really inflammatory for me. Like when I get tired and exhausted and when it gets cold my joints get achy, Excelsior is perhaps emotionally anesthetic? I do feel my inflammations flare up after drinking Excelsior as well but being intoxicated with Excelsior it is like any pain wouldn't´ bother me anyhow. But if I kept drinking I would really mess myself up inflammationary wise and then sleep issue alone.

But today again like a champ. Such forward spirit the amazing focus, enjoying just looking on the dangerous icy and snowy road I am riding on , only pro cyclists and reckless stimjunkies like myself ride so fearlessly fast in the icy conditions.

15 years old I was once hit by a car when I was riding a miniversion of a chopper like motorbike. Japanese Honda Raccoon 50cc and mine was illegally trimmed up, max speed maybe about 85/kmh per hour or about 52miles per hour when I maxed out on my local highway late at night when no cars or police were around, well it was my suburbs biggest highway but I was even more reckless back then. It did actually get a bit wobbly at that speed because the bike was small and not really build for that speed.

I recklessly rode into this other rode coming from a curve and from that curve another car might have been riding a bit fast and I was somehow hit from behind.
I donat remember what happened but suddenly I found myself on my ass on the asphalt road. 4 metres away I see my crashed bike and a car that has stopped.....
I had a conversation with the driver and I guess we talked about what to do insurance wise etc but I actually barely remember any of the conversation I was just in such a shock.
My bike wasn't totally demolished. The handle and the front wheel could really move and it was a bit buckled up but I could still ride it back home. I rode home very slowly. I did never get another bigger bike but now only ride an electrical bike a bit too carelessly but after drinking Excelsior at least I think I am the champ lol.

Physical endurance but for me Excelsior really helped jump start me mentally. I had some serious issues and craziness in my life moving between 4 different countries and I was quite an exhausted nervous wreck before I even started drinking Excelsior lol.
But I started drinking it at a handy time and with its help did a summer of triple University courses , 2 in literature science and one in film theory and more specifically the cineasts art if Ingmar Bergman, the famous Swedish director. Quite a genius but its really depressing stuff and even more so if stressed or depressed yourself.

But like a total of more than 20 years it was another of those schools I kind of entered and honestly I am baffled of how much school I have gotten through while at the same very disillusioned with the value of what they were teaching...

But that summer I got through 3 courses and also managed 2 spend long summer days with the family, Biking 15kms with my sun to forest lake swimming, getting back home and cooking dinner and one of those nights I put the final touch to a 24 page collection of my 4 Bergman essays. Not proud of what I accomplished and honestly the the thesis of the University doctorate who very teaching the course and his intellectual theories about Bergman really baffled me.

In the doctorate work a bit over 200 pages written in an academic intellectually argumentative way, one of the points that he made a great fuzz about was that in Bergmans movies when the actors turn and look directly into the lens it breaks the illusion of it being for real and it creates an awareness in the observer that this a a created work of culture, film or art or what shall we call it?

Great poets and writers don waste their time writing boring University essays like that teacher and I did lol.

I have been really into many kinds of texts since a very early age. Loving Marvel comics as well as Tolkien and started reading world classics and Eastern philosophical works on Buddhism and yoga as well in my teens. And then life got so screwed up that a later age I ended up reading to many in my opinion crappy academic texts that sometimes really pained my poetic heart lol.

Only in Anabolic minds did I let my writing freely flow under the influence of Excelsior and that was muscleman. I sometimes joked that I was sharing Excerpts from a temporary stimjunkies diary. :ROFLMAO:

But weaning off I realize I can never get true Excelsior of the spirit while under the influence. As long as the mind and the busy thoughts are moving at a high speed can we truly glimpse spirit.

Mostly I have bee caught up in my own busy head but I think that I have felt some peace bliss if even for a few seconds and the safest way to get there I believe is meditation. R respect many traditions. I even ended up reading a theological kind of degree but that was also crappy in my opinion. It was a lot of mumbling and repeating of words not truly understood.

The buddhist and yoga scriptures made perfect sense to me right away although consistently applying spiritual truths in real life is so much harder than reading a book and thinking it sounded right. Yogananda an Indian yogi who went to the U.S about a hundred years ago fused both hindu traditions and Christianity and he wrote a very comprehensive commentary on the Bhagavad in a beautiful flowing English that I far from have gotten through but every time I open it up it just rings true with wisdom, but when I am caught up in muscleman mania I don't want to bother with no spiritual truths because I am so caught up in myself and my stress and it's a hassle to change myself. So much easier to just be angry at outside circumstances lol

But I think I actually did hit bottom and am starting to reflect and I do hope I do keep strive ever higher in spirit as is the meaning of the word Excelsior when I am all out of powder and I wish I will not even miss it one day Lol And honestly being without has helped me a lot.

The truth in any spiritual tradition is love and I hope you and everyone who read this far and everyone who didn't read any at all love peace and happiness and bliss and that is the foundation of the creation says the old tradition of Vedanta with its roots and we are all part of it no matter if we realize it or not.
But it is only when we can go beyond the ego we can do that and the. Excelsior jump started my wrecked intellectual head for awhile although unfortunately I wrote too many boring University papers and a few too much muscle mania Anabolic mind posts and it mostly has kept me locked up in my head. But somehow some light has shone through the window of mys soul and I am grateful and I want to try and forgive myself for doing less than best I could do and instead be here now.

In Excelsis Deo
 
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Update.

Just received a tub from Predator Nutrition and it’s a black tub with the date 10/25. All my other tubs were red with 6/24. Haven’t tried it yet. Has anyone received this batch and tried it?
 
maximumsport said:
Update.

Just received a tub from Predator Nutrition and it’s a black tub with the date 10/25. All my other tubs were red with 6/24. Haven’t tried it yet. Has anyone received this batch and tried it?
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Damn is this still doing the rounds? I quit Excelsior 2 years ago and never would take it again.

If people look through my posts they will see that I suffered a TIA (Transient Ischemic Attack). Basically a mini stroke using Excelsior.

I loved this pre. I was using it almost daily and was training like crazy at the time.

I personally wouldn't use it again. Though.. If it's still on the market then it must be ok (Ie not spiked like Craze)?

I would just tell people to be careful. Don't end up like me who collapsed and ended up in hospital strapped to numerous monitoring machines. I was on blood thinners for weeks after and had a heart monitor strapped to my body for a week.

When I quit Excelsior. The depression was the worst I have ever experienced. My dopamine system was destroyed. I genuinely couldn't function properly for 3 months. I was VERY anhedonic. Sleeping 12 hours a day. A very rough period of my life.

Just be careful guys. It's a crazy good pre workout but it's not worth your health. I believe if you use it sparingly it should be fine. I was personally using it 5 times a week (1.5 scoops). Not sure if you would class this as abuse but it seemed like it based on my outcome.
 
bell1986 said:
Damn is this still doing the rounds? I quit Excelsior 2 years ago and never would take it again.

If people look through my posts they will see that I suffered a TIA (Transient Ischemic Attack). Basically a mini stroke using Excelsior.

I loved this pre. I was using it almost daily and was training like crazy at the time.

I personally wouldn't use it again. Though.. If it's still on the market then it must be ok (Ie not spiked like Craze)?

I would just tell people to be careful. Don't end up like me who collapsed and ended up in hospital strapped to numerous monitoring machines. I was on blood thinners for weeks after and had a heart monitor strapped to my body for a week.

When I quit Excelsior. The depression was the worst I have ever experienced. My dopamine system was destroyed. I genuinely couldn't function properly for 3 months. I was VERY anhedonic. Sleeping 12 hours a day. A very rough period of my life.

Just be careful guys. It's a crazy good pre workout but it's not worth your health. I believe if you use it sparingly it should be fine. I was personally using it 5 times a week (1.5 scoops). Not sure if you would class this as abuse but it seemed like it based on my outcome.
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Thanks for the input!
Yeah it surely is a PWO beyond most others in more than one way.
Great to hear you seem recovered! 🤩
 
bell1986 said:
Damn is this still doing the rounds? I quit Excelsior 2 years ago and never would take it again.

If people look through my posts they will see that I suffered a TIA (Transient Ischemic Attack). Basically a mini stroke using Excelsior.

I loved this pre. I was using it almost daily and was training like crazy at the time.

I personally wouldn't use it again. Though.. If it's still on the market then it must be ok (Ie not spiked like Craze)?

I would just tell people to be careful. Don't end up like me who collapsed and ended up in hospital strapped to numerous monitoring machines. I was on blood thinners for weeks after and had a heart monitor strapped to my body for a week.

When I quit Excelsior. The depression was the worst I have ever experienced. My dopamine system was destroyed. I genuinely couldn't function properly for 3 months. I was VERY anhedonic. Sleeping 12 hours a day. A very rough period of my life.

Just be careful guys. It's a crazy good pre workout but it's not worth your health. I believe if you use it sparingly it should be fine. I was personally using it 5 times a week (1.5 scoops). Not sure if you would class this as abuse but it seemed like it based on my outcome.
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I think that’s normal for a regular preworkout but not with this stuff. I did 1/2 scoop one day and 1/4th next and I could sense that I was out of it and slightly depressed so couldn’t imagine my body/dopamine after months. Not going to take again for awhile and even then might sell my tubs. Honestly, it has uses but the risk reward doesn’t seem worth it
 
CATdiesel76 said:
I think that’s normal for a regular preworkout but not with this stuff. I did 1/2 scoop one day and 1/4th next and I could sense that I was out of it and slightly depressed so couldn’t imagine my body/dopamine after months. Not going to take again for awhile and even then might sell my tubs. Honestly, it has uses but the risk reward doesn’t seem worth it
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A few days later after my O.G 8/23I took my new red 5/24 again but even at double the dose I barrly feel it due to having had O.G a few days before. O.G though I could take it a couple of days in a row in small dose and still get effect.
The last 8/23 though even 10,5 hours after dosing and a full on activity I still ended up cranking out my little stim novel in one of latests posts lol.
Being kind of lately though it felt like the last residual effects was leaving my bpdy.
Its not only inflammatiry for joints but also for brain I feel. But yeah thats the great thing about the new tubs that I will just stop typing now and say
Goodnite Sweet princes and princesses! 🤩
 
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